Faheem Ashraf - Another case of an unfulfilled talent?

[MenInG]

From a very promising start in the Champions Trophy to a point where his presence in the side is looked at with great resevations, Faheem Ashraf's star is on the decline.

PCB need to help him get himself going in the right direction or we will have another case of an unfulfilled talent at our hands.

 

[Major]

What promising start?

Fahem Ashraf was always an over rated cricketer. I have been saying this ever since that warm up match against Bangladesh i think.

I remember that warm up game where the actual pitch was not being used and they had to use the practise pitch, which was near to the boundary rope. Infact, the boundary rope was as such that in an actual match it would be the inner circle.

The guy hits a few sixes, and everyone goes over the board that he should be regular.

Thus, he has been playing regularly, and has done nothing special. Probably wil give you a once in the blue moon performance with the bat, but we already have hasan ali for that.

The guy is not an allrounder. Simple as that

Better to bring in a genuine bowler in his place.

 

[Mann Bharya]

He's a pretty average batsmen and a decent bowler. Pandya is leagues above him.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

He's a pretty average batsmen and a decent bowler. Pandya is leagues above him.

Averaging 40 with the ball is just as bad as averaging 11 with the bat.

 

[Pete Rose]

I think his domestic stats show the way to his international numbers. Bowling wise he is fine. Batting is a significant work in progress. If I were him, I would go back to domestic cricket and try to play at number 4 or number 5 in the four day game.

 

[Major]

I would be more concern regarding Shadab Khan than Faheem.

Shadab is our main spin bowler, but he doesnt bowl like one. Our main spin bowler should be avging below 25.

 

[Mann Bharya]

Averaging 40 with the ball is just as bad as averaging 11 with the bat.

Not really. You could bowl few overs here there but average of 11 for someone batting at 7 or 8 is horrible.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

From a very promising start in the Champions Trophy to a point where his presence in the side is looked at with great resevations, Faheem Ashraf's star is on the decline.

?

He played one match.

Had Pakistan's highest economy rate when bowling and was out for 15 runs off 15 balls.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Not really. You could bowl few overs here there but average of 11 for someone batting at 7 or 8 is horrible.

Faheem just needs to score 184 in his next innings to equal Pandya’s batting average.

 

[Mann Bharya]

Faheem just needs to score 184 in his next innings to equal Pandya’s batting average.

Yeah and he would score that.

 

[ads101]

What promising start?

Never had a promising start. If anything his bowling got better. People were just in love with the idea of him, a fast bowling allrounder, and everyone hyped him up. It wasn't really deserved. He just went hidden at no.8, 5th bowler, didn't shoulder any responsibility.

I got a lot of stick bashing Faheem early on. Now it's the reverse, if you support Faheem on here, posters will come out to bash you. Kind of funny how things change.

Highlight the importance of actually showing something in international cricket. You can't just make the team on suspected talent alone. It's not fair on the other players who actually have to do something to keep their spot in the team, rather being in "for balance".

2 years is too short a time to completely reinvent a player like Faheem, his skills look like they need years to be worked on. International cricket is more for fine-tuning. Not a whole overhaul like Faheem needed, that's what domestic is for. He probably would have got better chances too instead of batting at 8, part time bowler he was used in international cricket, thus more opportunity to improve.

 

[Mamoon]

There was no promise to begin with, only desperate, idiotic hype.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Yeah and he would score that.

If pandya’s average remains 29, Faheem would need to score 11.5 in 16 innings whilst remaining not out to have the same average as Pandya. Faheem’s career average is 11 so it’s doable.

 

[Saj]

I hope the superstar syndrome isn't striking Pakistan cricket once again.

Another where he thinks he's made it and thinks after a couple of decent performances that he thinks he's actually better than what he is.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

I hope the superstar syndrome isn't striking Pakistan cricket once again.

Another where he thinks he's made it and thinks after a couple of decent performances that he thinks he's actually better than what he is.

The problem is that they spend too much time on their looks and not enough focus is going on in the nets.

 

[Rayyman]

Needs to get rid if that pot belly.

If Faheem can get himself in top shape, I am sure his game will improve significantly.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Needs to get rid if that pot belly.

If Faheem can get himself in top shape, I am sure his game will improve significantly.

Muhammad shahzad says hello

 

[Abdullah]

Lol look at the bowling stats. What do people want. He needs to pull his weight with the bat.
All rounders take time to develop

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Muhammad shahzad says hello

Sarfraz says hello I'm leading by example.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

The problem is that they spend too much time on their looks and not enough focus is going on in the nets.

And you know this how?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

And you know this how?

By the performances on the field.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Sarfraz says hello I'm leading by example.

Sarfaraz was in the same shape in 2015, the only difference is that he’s not a lower order power hitter, he’s an opener who rotates the strike very well.

 

[Pete Rose]

By the performances on the field.

So every player in world cricket not performing is not going to the nets? Ok, uncle

 

[DRsohail]

Always ratted Amad But higher than him but guy showed some glimpses thats why we got silent and started supporting him but it has been too long to see him performing.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

By the performances on the field.

You keep track of how much time he spends at the nets?

Perhaps he simply doesn't have the talent or what it takes at the international level.

 

[Pete Rose]

Should be persisted with as fifth bowling option. Mickey said it right, than they see him a number 8 at the moment. And lastly t20 is not a format to assess pedigree

 

[GreenKhan]

Faheem does not have any super star syndrome he is a simple guy and a hard worker .

His bowling has improved since he made his debut however unfortunately his batting has regressed . Part of the problem with his batting is that he has been on tour with the national team and his batting opportunities have been few and usually has been required to come in and hit a few . He is short on confidence with the bat .

He should be persisted with .

 

[Pete Rose]

You keep track of how much time he spends at the nets?

Perhaps he simply doesn't have the talent or what it takes at the international level.

Could be this or could be second year blues. Pakistani commentary is usually the same simplistic nonsense.
Player performs in first year and everyone goes overboard
Prayer fails in sscond year it must be social media and off field stuff and not enough hard work

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Sarfaraz was in the same shape in 2015, the only difference is that he’s not a lower order power hitter, he’s an opener who rotates the strike very well.

Sarfraz is still in the same shape.

 

[Saj]

The problem is that they spend too much time on their looks and not enough focus is going on in the nets.

I don't care about their grooming habits, as long as they perform on the field, which many of them are not doing.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

I like Faheem. He can bowl medium pace and play some long handle shots. He could be Klusner 2.0 for Pakistan.

 

[mastersaan10]

Still averaging better than amir with the ball

 

[mastermind_quad]

There are lots of all rounder playing for Pakustan lately. Not sure if it is good or bad but definitely it seems to me that they are not focusing on there core strength in domestic and trying to get easy route to national team.

 

[Abdullah]

Should always be ahead of shinwari in T20.
At least we just got that confirmee for those of us who didn't think so

 

[Asher]

Basically, I think Arthur is being too impatient with him and Hassan and instead giving countless chances to Aamer. Should always give them 1st 3 games of the series so they can bounce back.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

So every player in world cricket not performing is not going to the nets? Ok, uncle

Didn’t say not going to the nets dumbo, I said they’re not focused enough in the nets.

All they seem to being doing is taking mirror selfies and eating cakes.

I want to see PCB social media team showing us their batting sessions, not them eating cakes, I want them being pushed to their extreme, these are athletes!!

 

[Pete Rose]

Didn’t say not going to the nets dumbo, I said they’re not focused enough in the nets.

All they seem to being doing is taking mirror selfies and eating cakes.

I want to see PCB social media team showing us their batting sessions, not them eating cakes, I want them being pushed to their extreme, these are athletes!!

This is all opinion

 

[Shafi]

What is the definition of talent in our cricket? Scored 1 quick 50 against a warm-up match on 30m boundary.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

You keep track of how much time he spends at the nets?

Perhaps he simply doesn't have the talent or what it takes at the international level.

Yes.

You’re telling me that his average of 11 is as good as it can get?

 

[Saj]

What is the definition of talent in our cricket? Scored 1 quick 50 against a warm-up match on 30m boundary.

I was there. I don't think it was even 30 metres on one side

 

[YousafTheBeast]

This is all opinion

So they’re not athletes?

 

[babajee]

I was there. I don't think it was even 30 metres on one side

Didn't you say he hit most of his boundaries on the longer side?

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Didn't you say he hit most of his boundaries on the longer side?

The longer side of the boundary is the one saj is mentioning, less than 30m

 

[Saj]

The longer side of the boundary is the one saj is mentioning, less than 30m

No, I'm saying that was the shorter side.

To be fair to Faheem, that day he hit sixes around the ground, not just the shorter side.

 

[Greenstorm]

We could have won today had we played him.

 

[Markhor]

I've said for the last few months - to average over 60 in ODIs with the ball and 12 with the bat against top sides is not the stats of a genuine AR.

We need to end this fascination with bits and pieces because instead of giving you flexibility - we weaken both batting and bowling strength playing these pseudo ARs.

 

[Naveedahmed1]

Pak problem is they haven’t given faheem and shadab Chances up the order to player longer innings. In meaningless tours like this and in uae before this, they should have played them higher up the order. All other teams do the same to develop their players.

 

[ARK Rafay]

He never actually scored any thing in domestic. So he wasn't an AR. Infact Hasan is better than him. He has a 50 in ODIs already

 

[Saj]

We could have won today had we played him.

What makes you think that?

 

[Pete Rose]

I think fahim is a good bowler.

 

[Chokli]

We could have won today had we played him.

As if he has a history of winning us games right

 

[Greenstorm]

What makes you think that?

He is a good death overs bowler with precise yorkers and can hit occasional six. Both things were needed today.

 

[Saj]

He is a good death overs bowler with precise yorkers and can hit occasional six. Both things were needed today.

Seen none of that on this tour.

Wishful thinking to believe that he could have suddenly turned in a good performance.

 

[Ahmed216]

mickey arthur's zulu is yet to score a 25 in his LOI career.
U dont associate the word 'Talent' with such a pathetic performer.

PSL hack at best

 

[babajee]

Seen none of that on this tour.

Wishful thinking to believe that he could have suddenly turned in a good performance.

You missed his last over in the previous game.

 

[Greenstorm]

Seen none of that on this tour.

Wishful thinking to believe that he could have suddenly turned in a good performance.

Last over of SA's innings in first T20, Faheem went for 7 runs and a wicket.
Last over of SA's innings in 2nd T20, Shinwari went for 39 runs.

Faheem's strength as a bowler is his death overs bowling, yet we hardly use him there. There is a reason why he was the best bowler of last PSL. He should never be dropped from our T20 team and it was baffling to see him warming the bench today.

 

[Saj]

Last over of SA's innings in first T20, Faheem went for 7 runs and a wicket.
Last over of SA's innings in 2nd T20, Shinwari went for 39 runs.

Faheem's strength as a bowler is his death overs bowling, yet we hardly use him there. There is a reason why he was the best bowler of last PSL. He should never be dropped from our T20 team and it was baffling to see him warming the bench today.

He's done nothing all tour.

If you believe that somehow he will have produced a great match-winning performance, that's up to you - but certainly not something I believe.

 

[Greenstorm]

He's done nothing all tour.

If you believe that somehow he will have produced a great match-winning performance, that's up to you - but certainly not something I believe.

I am only talking about T20s.

 

[Ilustcricket]

Everyone is looking for the next Razzaq to join the Pakistani team, but no one knows that Razzaq was developed by Wasim Akram who let him bat as an opener and even one down and gave him the confidence to score. Faheem was told to bat at 8 in a T20 where he usually gets 2-5 balls. He will never develop like this.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

As Akmal wouls say, let him give 3 chances at no4/5 position in ODIs and if he hasn't score a 50 then discard him.

 

[Junaids]

I thought he was brilliant in the Johannesburg Test.

Showed the folly of picking Yasir Shah at Cape Town and Centurion.

Hopefully Faheem will play ahead of Yasir at Perth and Adelaide.

 

[Junaids]

He's done nothing all tour.

If you believe that somehow he will have produced a great match-winning performance, that's up to you - but certainly not something I believe.

He took 6 wickets for 99 in the Johannesburg Test.

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

very disappointed with his performances recently, one thing for sure he is not the new Abdurrazaak or Azhar Mahmood, those guys were miles ahead .