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Fakhar Zaman : Have we found the new Sharjeel Khan?

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Talent he has is really promising... he smashed "the #1 bowler in the world" for beautiful drives.. Great timings and great strike rate. Doesn't try slogging it over the top and trys to be safe. What do you make of him?

:fakhar = :sharjeel ?
 
Based on what? a debut match that has still not been finished.
 
Saffers have bowled some complete dross.

Do we never learn about hyping players too early?
 
Ma sha Allah, I dont care if h get's out, just glad to see a fearless player, Ah those two fours of Parnell's bowling were amazing.
 
No he doesnt have the same ability, but we should be happy that at the very least we dont have a player who is a coward


Just because he wont be a great player doesnt mean he cant be a good player, we should resist this insane hyping
 
I dont think he has the raw power of Sharjeel
both have similar strong off-side game's, neither is super strong on the leg
Fakhar is a far superior runner
 
I am mostly impressed with his running between the wickets. Miles ahead of other Pakistani batsmen.
 
Saffers have bowled some complete dross.

Do we never learn about hyping players too early?

Who cares yaar, few other of our players would have just left those deliveries.
 
There we go

Clearly has issues with the short ball but these things can be worked on

I'm happy he gave us something refreshing and im sure he can continue to do so
 
Who cares yaar, few other of our players would have just left those deliveries.

So? Kudos for punishing bad balls and showing aggression but he's been hit on the head twice already as well. There's been good and bad but because he's new and hit a few boundaries people are ignoring all the negatives.

Wait until he's played 10-15 innings and international teams have got footage of him before getting too excited.
 
I saw him in the PSL and he looked like a bit of a reckless slasher. Doesn't have the eye of Sharjeel which allowed him to pick the length late. I don't think he's all that to be honest, but we need this type of batsman just for their aggression. Handy for a quick 20 or 30 runs.
 
The one shot tht i think changed SAz mindset would be the one where he bashed Rabada over longoff. Tht was a bit to say even if u bowl me a good ball i can smash u. Thts the fear we want in other teams for our batting. Normally selfi n slow-ali would just knock it dead but he showed tht hello , i can do something different. As i type he is out lol
 
Sharjeel was one of the best timers of the ball in the world.

Fakhar just looks like a hack. You just have look at how he got out, worked out within 6-7 overs.
 
I'm just happy Misbah is no longer our captain or he would have learned to Tuk tuk like Shehzad and Azhar too.

Hope he has a great career!
 
Got hit on the helmet twice and premeditates a lot. He is not the next Sharjeel, but he is not a coward either.
 
Quick 30.. MASHALLAH.. Really impressive stuff.. Played really aggressive shots using his feet.. Then got out due to his foot placement.. Better than Azhar's 9 (22) or Shehzad's 12(22) maybe even South African openers.. let's give the young man some rest and NOT expect too much.. He'll get some experience and improve like Sharjeel. He's not gonna score a century on his first match.
 
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The guy has the modern cricket genes in him, this is what matters. He should be persisted with. It is the era of hacks. He is brave. Fakhar over Shehzad, Azhar and Hafeez any day.
 
I bit of a slogger but not as bad as Afridi.

Decent find but I don't see him as someone scoring a hundred..maybe a quick 40
 
This is why we need to take risks with selection. Just needs refining of technique and he could be opening in one dayers for a while. Good to see the intent to score is there.
 
This is the problem with Pakistan fans. A simple 30 is all that is needed to hype up a player to the moon and back. He looks a very limited player who will be found out very soon. For starters, a short ball ruffled him up and this will be the trend in the future.
 
lol, this guy is a hack.

What kind of pathetic shot was that?

He overly premeditated but is better then that shot, the jury is still out on him and this was his first game but the kid has heart and we should invest in him. A positive sign after losing Sharjeel, hopefully Fakhar develops further from within the set up and gets a long rope; only way for his skill set to be elevated
 
He's played 23 balls, hit a few shots, and while he hit them well, he already shows some vulnerability to short pitched bowling.

This is just yet another case of a new batsman coming in and smacking a few and then being proclaimed the second coming of Anwar or Inzi or Miandad. Nasir Jamshed did very well in the beginning- what happened to him?

In a few months if not sooner, post a few inevitable failures that happen to ever new player, someone will open another thread and people will call him a failure.

Give him time. It takes two to three years of patience and luck to make international batsman, sometimes even more for a bowler.
 
So? Kudos for punishing bad balls and showing aggression but he's been hit on the head twice already as well. There's been good and bad but because he's new and hit a few boundaries people are ignoring all the negatives.

Wait until he's played 10-15 innings and international teams have got footage of him before getting too excited.

Quit dissing the next Sehwag bruv
 
Looks like someone who emphasizes on rotating the strike in the PowerPlay unlike Sharjeel who was mostly hitting boundaries. May not be as powerful as Sharjeeel but has the ability to make up for it with good strike rotation. He seemed alert to pick up singles. Well whatever he maybe, he is a significant upgrade over Ahmed Shehzad for sure.
 
Talent he has is really promising... he smashed "the #1 bowler in the world" for beautiful drives.. Great timings and great strike rate. Doesn't try slogging it over the top and trys to be safe. What do you make of him?

:fakhar = :sharjeel ?

not really. Sharjeel is a beast which Fakhar is not.
 
Commentators singing lyrical about him, people with actual cricketing ability. The posters here who have probably never even touched a real cricket ball are calling him a hack
 
Commentators singing lyrical about him, people with actual cricketing ability. The posters here who have probably never even touched a real cricket ball are calling him a hack
They say the same about Amir, your point?
 
He overly premeditated but is better then that shot, the jury is still out on him and this was his first game but the kid has heart and we should invest in him. A positive sign after losing Sharjeel, hopefully Fakhar develops further from within the set up and gets a long rope; only way for his skill set to be elevated

He's 27. I've seen him before in the T20 games for Pakistan. Totally bottom handed and doesn't seem to have any technique against good pace let along swing or seam. Sure on the flat tracks of Pakistan he has the power and aggression to score and score quickly but at this level looks out of his depth.

Tbh it's tedious we Pak fans see greatness in a player after he hits a few balls to the boundaries. But this is my opinion. :)
 
Got hit on the helmet twice and premeditates a lot. He is not the next Sharjeel, but he is not a coward either.

Sharjeel was also not a coward, far from it, a bit too much brave to self destroy actually some times :sharjeel
 
He has some serious issues against the short ball. Once teams have worked him out he'll only be getting short balls and will face the same fate as Raina.

But yea he is definitely ten times better than a Shehzad or any other current opener. No other option as well at the moment.
 
Commentators singing lyrical about him, people with actual cricketing ability. The posters here who have probably never even touched a real cricket ball are calling him a hack

The same posters who want Malik kicked out and the Akmals still in the side just cuz :)))
 
Commentators singing lyrical about him, people with actual cricketing ability. The posters here who have probably never even touched a real cricket ball are calling him a hack

How long have you been coaching or playing at international level? :inti
 
Fakhar is some talent, he will get better with time.. With Mickey Arthur as the coach we can probably see the same improvements he made with Sharjeel.. Please don't compare him to Nasir, he's totally irrelevant player.

Fakhar on debut: 31 Runs at 134 SR
Sharjeel Avg: 32 at 113 SR

Fakhar has a lot of potential. INSHALLAH he will improve over time.
 
So? Kudos for punishing bad balls and showing aggression but he's been hit on the head twice already as well. There's been good and bad but because he's new and hit a few boundaries people are ignoring all the negatives.

Wait until he's played 10-15 innings and international teams have got footage of him before getting too excited.

I am certainly not ignoring the negatives. I am just apllauding the positives. He put the bad balls away and looked for singles. That has been missing from our top order. He needs to calm down after hitting a couple of boundaries and respect the good balls. Let's hope he improves instead of starting worrying for his place and playing like Shehzad.
 
So? Kudos for punishing bad balls and showing aggression but he's been hit on the head twice already as well. There's been good and bad but because he's new and hit a few boundaries people are ignoring all the negatives.

Wait until he's played 10-15 innings and international teams have got footage of him before getting too excited.

Those who saw Sharjeel in his first few series till Asia cup 2014, said he was a leg side hack in the mould of awais zia and shahzaib hasan. He improved a lot in 2016-17 till he got suspended.
 
He's 27. I've seen him before in the T20 games for Pakistan. Totally bottom handed and doesn't seem to have any technique against good pace let along swing or seam. Sure on the flat tracks of Pakistan he has the power and aggression to score and score quickly but at this level looks out of his depth.

Tbh it's tedious we Pak fans see greatness in a player after he hits a few balls to the boundaries. But this is my opinion. :)

Saying we see greatness etc is very premature but he has shown more promise then we already have so deserves support, 32 on debut against a mighty SA attack at an S/R of 130+ is not bad. I think in the moment we should not overly criticise or praise and be objective. The same was said about Sharjeel when he burst on to the scene, in modern limited overs cricket technique is not the be and end all but that's not to say you can't make the best out of what you have and improve etc with the support of your board and team in order to elevate your development
 
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Sharjeel's technique was better. Better teams will work Fakhar Zaman out in 1-2 innings, unlike Sharjeel he doesn't really look like having all the shots in the book.
 
Some of the shots he played were amazing, crisp timing and great striking. Obviously has his issues but nothing that can't be sorted. Probably the first time he's genuinely impressed me.
 
Nope, Sharjeel is in a different league, his hand-eye-coordination is unmatched. Can still be a better partner than the Azhar/Shehzad dross, just don't call for his head when he mistimes a pull and is caught, which seems like something the bowlers will target after this match.
 
PP experts said he is leg side hack. This was his wagon wheel. All boundaries either square on the off-side or straight down the ground.
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I still think he's got some work to do. He can strike the bowl a bit better. His shot selection was a bit off but their's plenty to admire about him. He's aggressive style of play first of all, the fact that he was looking to attack the bowlers, not let them settle
 
Some of the shots he played were amazing, crisp timing and great striking. Obviously has his issues but nothing that can't be sorted. Probably the first time he's genuinely impressed me.

There are always two extremes when it comes to our fans assessments, either overly rate or overly criticise; it's his first game for crying out loud! :)) like ripping into a new born baby for not being able to walk even though he pulled out a couple of drop kicks here and there :))
 
Sharjeel is better but Fakhar can be worked with and deserves a run. The good thing was today that he showed the intent to score.
 
I am just waiting to see the Fakhar v Who thread?

Kudos to the lad for a good debut. Hope he goes on well. Also, hope this ain't a false dawn like the numerous fast bowlers we have had in the past!
 
Guys how was he?

Tullay baaz or genuine cricket shots like Sharjeel even if focuses on one sided
 
Sharjeel's technique was better. Better teams will work Fakhar Zaman out in 1-2 innings, unlike Sharjeel he doesn't really look like having all the shots in the book.
Sharjeels game improved A LOT with just one year under Mickey Arthur and Grant Flower

When he came for WT20 2016 he was a leg side hack but after A tour of England and then multiple series with Arthur and flower he was becoming a more complete batsman
 
Saying we see greatness etc is very premature but he has shown more promise then we already have so deserves support, 32 on debut against a mighty SA attack at an S/R of 130+ is not bad. I think in the moment we should not overly criticise or praise and be objective. The same was said about Sharjeel when he burst on to the scene, in modern limited overs cricket technique is not the be and end all but that's not to say you can't make the best out of what you have and improve etc with the support of your board and team in order to elevate your development

He can always improve with a good batting coach and he needs to. The first important thing for any batsmen is having the basic technique or defence on the front foot or the back foot. He's unorthodox sure but needs to get solid, you won't be able to slog every ball in such conditions esp against pace.

Look, I wish him luck and success but at present he looks a hack imo, that's how I feel :inzi
 
Sharjeels game improved A LOT with just one year under Mickey Arthur and Grant Flower

When he came for WT20 2016 he was a leg side hack but after A tour of England and then multiple series with Arthur and flower he was becoming a more complete batsman

Yea.. EXACTLY what I'm saying.. Hopefully, Mickey can improve Fakhar like he did Sharjeel... Thankfully he's not overweight.
 
I think he brings more to the team than Sharjeel.

A lot better runner between the wickets and a great fielder. He can also chip in a few overs of SLA

Sharjeel is the better bat tho
 
He can always improve with a good batting coach and he needs to. The first important thing for any batsmen is having the basic technique or defence on the front foot or the back foot. He's unorthodox sure but needs to get solid, you won't be able to slog every ball in such conditions esp against pace.

Look, I wish him luck and success but at present he looks a hack imo, that's how I feel :inzi

Dude, you don't like him I feel. No need to get personal. Even if he is a hack, it shouldn't matter, as he is brave and fits the modern era of cricket. Relax.
 
He can always improve with a good batting coach and he needs to. The first important thing for any batsmen is having the basic technique or defence on the front foot or the back foot. He's unorthodox sure but needs to get solid, you won't be able to slog every ball in such conditions esp against pace.

Look, I wish him luck and success but at present he looks a hack imo, that's how I feel :inzi

Hack's are what we need in this day and age, conditions are generally in favour of the batsman as well; he will improve hopefully from within the set up in the same manner Sharjeel did. My first impressions are not as negative but regardless he has earned the long rope, we should judge him a bit more when he has gained more experience
 
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There are always two extremes when it comes to our fans assessments, either overly rate or overly criticise; it's his first game for crying out loud! :)) like ripping into a new born baby for not being able to walk even though he pulled out a couple of drop kicks here and there :))

Fans are sick and tired of all the tuk tuks so it's only natural that they'd get a bit carried away if someone plays some aggressive cricket. :))
 
Dude, you don't like him I feel. No need to get personal. Even if he is a hack, it shouldn't matter, as he is brave and fits the modern era of cricket. Relax.

Nothing personal, he doesn't have the basic technique. Hack is a term to define a type of player, no need to get offended and it's not personal attack. He's playing for Pakistan, just like anyone else he will be criticised by those who want to criticise him. Bravery doesn't win you matches, runs do.
 
Nothing personal, he doesn't have the basic technique. Hack is a term to define a type of player, no need to get offended and it's not personal attack. He's playing for Pakistan, just like anyone else he will be criticised by those who want to criticise him. Bravery doesn't win you matches, runs do.

He is averaging 50 in List A cricket. No one has a perfect technique. He has the right mindset for modern cricket. He has the potential to make runs. So just chill.
 
Will struggle against short ball.

But you know what. In today's day and age of flat wickets, a batsmen like this can succeed. Keep playing him. Better than Hafeez.
 
Nothing personal, he doesn't have the basic technique. Hack is a term to define a type of player, no need to get offended and it's not personal attack. He's playing for Pakistan, just like anyone else he will be criticised by those who want to criticise him. Bravery doesn't win you matches, runs do.

Technique over-rated. MAny hacks now make a career out of it. Look at West Indies. Can win T20 WC and look helpless in anything greater or equal to a 21 over match. As long as he can make runs and rotate strike (which he was doing! shocking!!!) then he can be a decent player fo rus. Better than what we have.
 
Technique over-rated. MAny hacks now make a career out of it. Look at West Indies. Can win T20 WC and look helpless in anything greater or equal to a 21 over match. As long as he can make runs and rotate strike (which he was doing! shocking!!!) then he can be a decent player fo rus. Better than what we have.

Kane Williamson, Joe Root and Hashim Amla have scored tons with ease in the CT17. We need players who can bat not just slog.
 
Kane Williamson, Joe Root and Hashim Amla have scored tons with ease in the CT17. We need players who can bat not just slog.

Dude, you seem to have a thing against him for sure. Didn't you see how beautifully was he rotating the strike? It was amazing and refreshing to see. What else do you want? It was just his first game, dude. You really need to take a day off :))
 
Kane Williamson, Joe Root and Hashim Amla have scored tons with ease in the CT17. We need players who can bat not just slog.

Beggers can't be choosers we have to make do with what we have because even players like Zaman have dried up in recent times, you Amla's, Williamson's etc are not coming and the ones who have come through and are a bit more sound technically have only bullied the West Indies thus far
 
Dude, you seem to have a thing against him for sure. Didn't you see how beautifully was he rotating the strike? It was amazing and refreshing to see. What else do you want? It was just his first game, dude. You really need to take a day off :))

Calm down. Ive just told you its nothing personal and made some points for you to ponder over. If you disagree fine but don't get all emotional over a player. :))
 
Beggers can't be choosers we have to make do with what we have because even players like Zaman have dried up in recent times, you Amla's, Williamson's etc are not coming and the ones who have come through and are a bit more sound technically have only bullied the West Indies thus far

I would have had Haris in at 3 and Babar opened. Pakistani has plenty of batsmen to choose from in in domestic cricket.
 
I would have had Haris in at 3 and Babar opened. Pakistani has plenty of batsmen to choose from in in domestic cricket.

Fakhar also averages 50 in Lisa A at an S/R off 94 and did well in the recent Pakistan Cup. Which other openers in domestic cricket would you have considered?
 
Guys how was he?

Tullay baaz or genuine cricket shots like Sharjeel even if focuses on one sided

He hit some great cut shots and picked one up nicely to long on. He still looks like he pre-meditates his shots a bit, but we need a player with his aggression to be honest. I'm not convinced he's going to be another Sharjeel who picks the length really early but he's earned a run of games anyway. I hope he does well, we desperately need a batsman with his hitting intent.
 
Everybody just calm down.
Just give him 10 games and then decide.
And now after CT they should bring in sahibzada farhan and get rid of azhar ali.
 
Fakhar also averages 50 in Lisa A at an S/R off 94 and did well in the recent Pakistan Cup. Which other openers in domestic cricket would you have considered?

I wouldn't at the moment. I would stick with Azhar and Babar with Sohail at 3, Malik at 4..

20, 30's dont win you matches. We need players in the top 4 who are capable of scoring hundreds. I hope he improves but a 27 year old who can't defend or get out of the way from a short ball doesn't fill me with much hope and hope gets us through the night being Pakistani fans. :ik
 
I wouldn't at the moment. I would stick with Azhar and Babar with Sohail at 3, Malik at 4..

20, 30's dont win you matches. We need players in the top 4 who are capable of scoring hundreds. I hope he improves but a 27 year old who can't defend or get out of the way from a short ball doesn't fill me with much hope and hope gets us through the night being Pakistani fans. :ik

Babar has been invested in at no.3 so we should keep him there, no need to cause turbulence to his young career when he's figuring things out at the moment; not like he is completely out of his depth and has done well enough to continue at that position thus far. There is no denying that we need dynamic openers in this era and there is potential with Fakhar who sould continue to come in ahead of shehzad, again Sharjeel came in with similar flaws but got better and was a better option then others to begin with. It's also premature to come to conclusions on Fakhar after his first game :irfan
 
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