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Fawad Alam "I have never blamed anybody for the years I lost in international cricket"

that ball spun abit more, trust me, people would had been bashing him for throwing it away.

It was an unnecessary risk by him.

Good innings, but he throws it away after 100. Expect more from him

The ball was turning into him, not away from him. It was a fairly well judged move. Any batsman who has ever charged a spinner has flirted with a bit of risk, that's just part of the game.


Whether he converts his 100s into big ones is a separate argument. He has played 8 matches so it's hard to call him out for especially since 1 of his 3 hundreds was a 168. He has big hundreds in domestic cricket so one can hope this won't be a persistent problem.
 
It is a travesty that Fawad Alam has only played eight Tests... Pakistan must heed his example


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SAJ SADIQ: The treatment of the talented batsman has been a mystery even to Pakistani fans and followers, who over the years have been accustomed to controversy and chaos when it comes to selection policies

Fawad Alam’s Test career started all the way back in July 2009 in Colombo when in Pakistan’s second innings he scored an assured 168 at the top of the order out of a team total of 320.

Fawad’s illustrious team-mates that day in Sri Lanka included Younis Khan, Mohammad Yousuf and Misbah-ul-Haq, but it was the Karachi-born left-hander who caught the eye.

It wasn’t enough to save Pakistan from a seven-wicket defeat, but the general consensus was that Pakistan had unearthed a gem, a gritty and determined batsman who would serve them very well and for many years to come.

In possession of a slight frame with an unorthodox batting stance, Fawad was seen as a versatile top-order batsman who could shore up an inconsistent line-up and provide flexibility. Effective against pace, able to manoeuvre the ball around, a wonderful player of spin, a good runner between the wickets and a batsman with a lot of patience, Fawad should have been a Pakistan Test captain’s dream.

But what has ensued has been a mystery even to Pakistani fans and followers, who over the years have been accustomed to controversy and chaos when it comes to selection policies.

Selection committee after selection committee ignored Fawad despite his dominance in season after season of domestic cricket. Fawad’s brilliant first-class numbers year after year weren’t viewed as good enough to earn him a recall, despite the selectors crying out for batting talent and stating that domestic performances would be the criteria for national selection.

Much to the annoyance of many, former chief selector Inzamam-ul-Haq, when asked why Fawad was being ignored, stated that “we have better players than him in our ranks, so we don’t need him”.


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While selectors ignored him, Fawad’s behaviour and conduct was impeccable. He put his head down and got on with his job which was to score runs. When asked why he wasn’t being picked, Fawad calmly stated that when the Almighty wants me to be picked for my country it will happen and that he wasn’t taking anything personally.

Many would have spat the dummy out, retired or started a war of words with those who were ignoring him, but Fawad chose to let his bat do the talking. Instead of wallowing in self-pity, Fawad continued to pile up the runs, meaning that the selectors eventually had no more excuses left to ignore him. Such was his desire to keep on improving and working on his batting, he played club cricket in the Lancashire League for Clitheroe to ensure that during the Pakistani off-season he was still practising and playing cricket.

Fast-forward 11-and-a-half years, and despite the 168 on debut, Fawad has incredibly only played eight Test matches, which even by Pakistan’s unorthodox selection policies is an absolute travesty. After his first three, he was dropped for nearly 11 years before being recalled for last year’s tour of England, during which he scored 0 and 21 in Southampton.

However, while previous selection committees and head coaches showed little faith in Fawad, the current team management led by Misbah-ul-haq backed him and picked him for the tour of New Zealand where he scored a battling 102 in the first Test coming into bat when the brittle Pakistan batting unit was 37 for 3.

Currently playing in his first Test in Pakistan, in his home city of Karachi, Fawad has once again defied his critics and made a century when his team needed it most. Coming into bat with the score at 27 for 4, Fawad compiled a typical gritty century, attacking when it was needed, displaying patience and excellent technique against the impressive South African pace-bowlers and their wily spinners.

At 35 years of age Fawad would be the first to admit that he’s not in his prime, but he’s looked after himself and has kept his fitness levels very high. When asked at the press conference after his century against South Africa about whether he would forgive those who ignored him for over 10 years in international cricket, he said: “I am not anybody to forgive those who kept me out of the team. Who am I to do that?”.


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In true Fawad Alam style, when asked who he blamed for missing 10 years of international cricket, he added: "I have never blamed anybody for the years I lost in international cricket as it was in my destiny that I wouldn’t play. I don’t see it as losing 10 years of my career and don’t concentrate on what I lost, rather I look forward to what I can achieve in future."

While in public, Fawad may well say that missing 10 years of international cricket doesn’t hurt and it was his destiny, inside he will be hurting; he will be heartbroken at not playing for Pakistan during his best years.

The reasons for Fawad not being selected remain a mystery, but it is abundantly clear that the ongoing match against South Africa should not be only his eighth Test. There is a lesson to be learnt here for future Pakistani selection committees.

https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics...ght_tests_pakistan_must_heed_his_example.html
 
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TBH the media only jumped on this bandwagon in the last couple of years. And the credit for that goes to Wasim Akram, Rashid Latif and Shoaib Akhtar as they would bring him up regularly on their PTV show.

No one from here ever really stood up for him during his prime. There was silence when Yousuf threw him out of the squad mid-tour and replaced him with Faisal Iqbal and other friends.

These guys just jumped on the bandwagon recently.

Many of us have been calling for Fawad's recall for a long time.
 
Does Misbah make it to the list? He is still the one who brought him into the team last year.
Inzamam, Mohsin Khan, Ilyas, Whatmore, Sarfraz, Mickey are definitely in that list.

I believe Misbah does deserve credit as I have mentioned in my article in this thread.
 
I believe Misbah does deserve credit as I have mentioned in my article in this thread.

You can look at it the other way too Misbah was pakistan captain for several of fawads prime years and never looked to bring him in at all even once. Not even initially when he became chief selector and coach

His hands only been forced because of shafiqs terrible form N the media noise
 
Fawad is a good cricket and a great sportsman. Very rarely I see a positive attitude like this in a Pakistani cricketer, very impressive.
 
I believe Misbah does deserve credit as I have mentioned in my article in this thread.

Why?

Fawad Alam merited a place in the team from 2012-2017 far more than Misbah-ul-Haq or Asad Shafiq or Mohammad Hafeez did.
 
Why?

Fawad Alam merited a place in the team from 2012-2017 far more than Misbah-ul-Haq or Asad Shafiq or Mohammad Hafeez did.

Its not Misbah's fault that Fawad Alam was not selected to replace him!
 
Fawad Alam, hero of the 1st innings, fittingly hits the winning runs in the 2nd innings. Nailed-on MOTM for me.
 
Well deserved Man of the Match award for Fawad on his Test match return to his home ground. Well played :salute
 
Fawad Alam speaking to the media/TV:

"The pitch was 2 paced as everyone could see; there were rough patches on the pitch which were problems for left-handers especially as South Africa had left-arm spinners so things werent that easy"

"We had planned to apply ourselves and to stay calm and not worry about the pitch or the rough patches, as runs will come when you stay longer on the pitch"

"On 25th December, we celebrated the wedding anniversary for my parents and I couldnt arrange a gift for my parents at that time. But my father remarked that the best gift for him would be if I did well in the upcoming first Test against South Africa and also scored a century in it; At that time, I had said that I would dedicate this century in the name of my parents - in fact every good performance I do will be dedicated to my family"
 
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Fawad Alam speaking to the media/TV:

"The pitch was 2 paced as everyone could see; there were rough patches on the pitch which were problems for left-handers especially as South Africa had left-arm spinners so things werent that easy"

"We had planned to apply ourselves and to stay calm and not worry about the pitch or the rough patches, as runs will come when you stay longer on the pitch"

"On 25th December, we celebrated the wedding anniversary for my parents and I couldnt arrange a gift for my parents at that time. But my father remarked that the best gift for him would be if I did well in the upcoming first Test against South Africa and also scored a century in it; At that time, I had said that I would dedicate this century in the name of my parents - in fact every good performance I do will be dedicated to my family"

What a humble player ,what a good son indeed. He has won many Herts around the cricketing world. What a fighting never say die player.
 
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These guys just jumped on the bandwagon recently.

Many of us have been calling for Fawad's recall for a long time.

Did any of the PP's journalists ever ask questions about him during press conferences? I genuinely don't know that's why I am asking.

I am just seeing all these "injustice" posts as a recent fad. The average fan has no power. The journalists like yourself do. The journalists got him selected last year initially in the squads because they put pressure on Misbah.
 
And there is leech Amir who thinks he is entitled to play for Pak with no domestic performance. Fawad is a gem who toiled hard in domestics and it shows
 
Too much romanticism over someone who is averaging high 30s post comeback, which basically the same as Shafiq. Not to mention he averaged 10 in England and batted like a tail-ender.

He is not a baby. He has 150+ FC matches under his belt with 12k runs.

Unless he averages 50+ in Test cricket which he should considering his FC record, there is no need to feel sorry for him.
 
Too much romanticism over someone who is averaging high 30s post comeback, which basically the same as Shafiq. Not to mention he averaged 10 in England and batted like a tail-ender.

He is not a baby. He has 150+ FC matches under his belt with 12k runs.

Unless he averages 50+ in Test cricket which he should considering his FC record, there is no need to feel sorry for him.

Judgement should be relevant and average is just a number. I would take a 35 average from Fawad than a 35 average from Shafiq.

The reason being is that Shafiq’s runs would never come when most needed, whereas Fawad is a warrior.

Fawad just won us a test match!
 
Judgement should be relevant and average is just a number. I would take a 35 average from Fawad than a 35 average from Shafiq.

The reason being is that Shafiq’s runs would never come when most needed, whereas Fawad is a warrior.

Fawad just won us a test match!

Fawad’s runs were also needed in England and they were also needed in New Zealand. He couldn’t deliver when it mattered.

He was no warrior in the second Test in New Zealand when Pakistan needed him, he was no warrior in the first innings of the first Test, and he got out in a tame fashion in the second innings when he had the chance to save the match for Pakistan.

Fawad’s New Zealand tour was a classic Shafiq series - failures in all but one innings where he would play a career-saving, inconsequential innings. That is basically what Fawad did in New Zealand.

Again - your post is an example of romantic glorification of an above average body of work at best.

The innings against South Africa was good, but it was a baby hundred in his home ground against a team with just one proper spinner. Not something that has never been done before and never will be done again.

Fawad is getting praised to the moon and back for doing the bare minimum that you would expect from a 55 averaging FC batsman with 12k runs.
 
Fawad’s runs were also needed in England and they were also needed in New Zealand. He couldn’t deliver when it mattered.

He was no warrior in the second Test in New Zealand when Pakistan needed him, he was no warrior in the first innings of the first Test, and he got out in a tame fashion in the second innings when he had the chance to save the match for Pakistan.

Fawad’s New Zealand tour was a classic Shafiq series - failures in all but one innings where he would play a career-saving, inconsequential innings. That is basically what Fawad did in New Zealand.

Again - your post is an example of romantic glorification of an above average body of work at best.

The innings against South Africa was good, but it was a baby hundred in his home ground against a team with just one proper spinner. Not something that has never been done before and never will be done again.

Fawad is getting praised to the moon and back for doing the bare minimum that you would expect from a 55 averaging FC batsman with 12k runs.

Give him a few more innings before passing out judgement. Yes he is experienced in domestics but still a newbie in the international Test arena and given that he has at least won us one match already in his limited outings, there is hope. No one is saying he is THE batting messiah we have been waiting for but most people are happy that he is scoring ugly, gritty runs and adding value to our team. You keep comparing him with Shafiq but I dont remember one Shafiq innings where we can say he won us a match in his 80 odd matches.
 
Did any of the PP's journalists ever ask questions about him during press conferences? I genuinely don't know that's why I am asking.

I am just seeing all these "injustice" posts as a recent fad. The average fan has no power. The journalists like yourself do. The journalists got him selected last year initially in the squads because they put pressure on Misbah.

Interviewed Fawad several times where he spoke at length about his exclusion.

I'm pretty sure we've asked chief selectors about Fawad in various interviews.
 
Fawad’s runs were also needed in England and they were also needed in New Zealand. He couldn’t deliver when it mattered.

He was no warrior in the second Test in New Zealand when Pakistan needed him, he was no warrior in the first innings of the first Test, and he got out in a tame fashion in the second innings when he had the chance to save the match for Pakistan.

Fawad’s New Zealand tour was a classic Shafiq series - failures in all but one innings where he would play a career-saving, inconsequential innings. That is basically what Fawad did in New Zealand.

Again - your post is an example of romantic glorification of an above average body of work at best.

The innings against South Africa was good, but it was a baby hundred in his home ground against a team with just one proper spinner. Not something that has never been done before and never will be done again.

Fawad is getting praised to the moon and back for doing the bare minimum that you would expect from a 55 averaging FC batsman with 12k runs.

Have to agree with you to an extent, firstly before anyone jumps on me, if Fawad or any other player is selected I want them to do well.

However I’ve said before and say it again I’m yet to be fully convinced that Fawad is the complete test player who can score impactful innings in overseas pace bowling conditions. Most of his scoring shots are against spinners.

However I will say that his hundred against South Africa was a brilliant innings , yes as you’ve pointed out he had the opportunity to score more and bat them completely out of the game, however given the situation the pressure etc it was a match saving innings and I have to give him full credit for that.

Overall I think at this moment, my opinion is that hel do great in Asia and average elsewhere. (Hope I’m wrong). However at this point in time il take that as we have players who can’t even play innings at home.
 
i would like to make a few words on this matter -

fawad alam is clearly a brilliant batsman and should have been representing pakistan over the last 10 years or so. god any side in the world would have killed for a lower middle order batsman as resilient as he
for some reason, that never materialized
i think though that, there are lessons to be learned from fawad alams pure forgiveness. if we cant take that, then what can we take? i truly hope that fawad alam has taught pakistani cricket, which is without doubt a corrupt institution, a lesson

thats all i have to say on the matter really
 
Poor cricket from Fawad after he had looked so good up to that point.

We had just lost Babar, it's right at the start of the day, the last thing we needed was that run out to put 2 new batsmen at the crease vs fresh bowlers.
 
Both Babar & Fawad were looking so comfortable yesterday. Rain actually destroyed the whole momentum.....
 
Superb fielding that, but there was no need to risk that single.

Looked all set for a big score and threw it away.

Yep, total throw away no doubt but this happens. He should learn to be more patient next time, part of i think he got jinxed. Anyways can't cry over spilt milk, they are still in a very commanding position.
 
Averaging 35 post comeback. What are all these tears and tributes so far?

A middling batsman with an inflated domestic average due to poor bowling.

He is hardly an upgrade on Shafiq and has produced the same output that cost the latter a place in the team.
 
Averaging 35 post comeback. What are all these tears and tributes so far?

A middling batsman with an inflated domestic average due to poor bowling.

He is hardly an upgrade on Shafiq and has produced the same output that cost the latter a place in the team.

Your intellectual dishonesty knows no limits.

You hammer Fawad Alam for not replicating his 56 FC average in Test cricket, despite being recalled well past his prime at age 35.

Yet Hanuma Vihari who has the SAME FC average, playing in his 20s in a far better batting lineup, has worse Test returns. But you are radio silent on him.
 
Your intellectual dishonesty knows no limits.

You hammer Fawad Alam for not replicating his 56 FC average in Test cricket, despite being recalled well past his prime at age 35.

Yet Hanuma Vihari who has the SAME FC average, playing in his 20s in a far better batting lineup, has worse Test returns. But you are radio silent on him.

I love the convenience of Fawad fans. If he does well, they write songs in his honor and cry about injustice.

When he fails, they say he is past his prime and his peak was wasted :91:

Also, no need of comparing apples and oranges.

Vihari is a better batsman than Fawad. The way he drew the Sydney Test is something Fawad cannot dream of. He had the chance in New Zealand and he bottled it by getting out to a nothing delivery.

Besides, you don’t hear Indian fans talk about Vihari being treated unfairly and they don’t shed tears over the perceived injustice. He is not even hyped.

If he doesn’t do well in the long run and doesn’t score enough runs, he will be replaced. He is not

On the other hand, everyone has been raving about Fawad and overhyping his performances post comeback as if he has performed miracles.

If he is going to produce the same returns as Shafiq at this stage of his career with 12k FC runs under his belt, there is no point in selecting him in the first place.

He is averaging 35 post comeback and that is not good enough. No amount of excuses and justifications will help.

He was not treated unfairly. His output is roughly equal to Shafiq’s at Test level.
 
I love the convenience of Fawad fans. If he does well, they write songs in his honor and cry about injustice.

When he fails, they say he is past his prime and his peak was wasted :91:

Also, no need of comparing apples and oranges.

Vihari is a better batsman than Fawad. The way he drew the Sydney Test is something Fawad cannot dream of. He had the chance in New Zealand and he bottled it by getting out to a nothing delivery.

Besides, you don’t hear Indian fans talk about Vihari being treated unfairly and they don’t shed tears over the perceived injustice. He is not even hyped.

If he doesn’t do well in the long run and doesn’t score enough runs, he will be replaced. He is not

On the other hand, everyone has been raving about Fawad and overhyping his performances post comeback as if he has performed miracles.

If he is going to produce the same returns as Shafiq at this stage of his career with 12k FC runs under his belt, there is no point in selecting him in the first place.

He is averaging 35 post comeback and that is not good enough. No amount of excuses and justifications will help.

He was not treated unfairly. His output is roughly equal to Shafiq’s at Test level.

Unless you have a different definition of what a batsman's peak is - 35 years old is generally the age to retire. The fact Fawad's still scoring hundreds against Test attacks at this age is testament to his fitness.

And again, there was NO injustice done by Indian selectors to Vihari. His domestic record was rewarded, whereas our selectors discarded Fawad for 10 years despite possessing the same FC average. You KNOW why the reactions are different, but your intellectual dishonesty is amazing.

If Vihari is the superior batsman - why has he got worse Test returns than Fawad despite being in his prime and in a much more stable batting unit ? What's stopping him from replicating his 56 FC average in Tests, and what's stopping you from criticising him for failing to do so ?
 
Unless you have a different definition of what a batsman's peak is - 35 years old is generally the age to retire. The fact Fawad's still scoring hundreds against Test attacks at this age is testament to his fitness.

And again, there was NO injustice done by Indian selectors to Vihari. His domestic record was rewarded, whereas our selectors discarded Fawad for 10 years despite possessing the same FC average. You KNOW why the reactions are different, but your intellectual dishonesty is amazing.

If Vihari is the superior batsman - why has he got worse Test returns than Fawad despite being in his prime and in a much more stable batting unit ? What's stopping him from replicating his 56 FC average in Tests, and what's stopping you from criticising him for failing to do so ?

Again, if Vihari was kept out of the team for years and some Indian fans just won’t shut up about the so-called injustice, you would expect Vihari to perform well above the norm whenever he would get his chance.

Everyone shed tears on Fawad and he has become a fan favorite now and it is a sin to criticize him even though only averages 35 post comeback.

He has showed that Pakistan did not miss him. His output is roughly equal to that of Azhar and Shafiq. This idea that he is now past his prime otherwise he would be uprooting trees is just a convenient cop-out.

Fawad is not being criticized for not replicating his FC average; he is being criticized for the fact that in spite of him and his fans playing the victim card for years, he hasn’t exactly set the stage on fire after getting his opportunity.

An average of 35 is just not good enough considering the whole Fawad narrative that has been forced down our throats for years.

The only intellectual dishonesty is by the Fawad propagandists who would abuse Shafiq and praise Fawad for producing the same numbers.

Shafiq with an average of 35 at an age of 35 was not good enough to be in the team, but Fawad with an average of 35 at the age of 35 is untouchable.
 
Your intellectual dishonesty knows no limits.

You hammer Fawad Alam for not replicating his 56 FC average in Test cricket, despite being recalled well past his prime at age 35.

Yet Hanuma Vihari who has the SAME FC average, playing in his 20s in a far better batting lineup, has worse Test returns. But you are radio silent on him.

Mamoon is not a sports analyst so I wouldn’t take his stuff seriously, overly critical and thinks everyone is mince.

Fact is allow more games for someone to improve. Fawad has shown progressive improvement and even in this series he’s been great, Mamoon is not a selector nor a coach so don’t know why everyone responds to his posts?

If it was up to him the playing XI would be all him.
 
Again, if Vihari was kept out of the team for years and some Indian fans just won’t shut up about the so-called injustice, you would expect Vihari to perform well above the norm whenever he would get his chance.

Everyone shed tears on Fawad and he has become a fan favorite now and it is a sin to criticize him even though only averages 35 post comeback.

He has showed that Pakistan did not miss him. His output is roughly equal to that of Azhar and Shafiq. This idea that he is now past his prime otherwise he would be uprooting trees is just a convenient cop-out.

Fawad is not being criticized for not replicating his FC average; he is being criticized for the fact that in spite of him and his fans playing the victim card for years, he hasn’t exactly set the stage on fire after getting his opportunity.

An average of 35 is just not good enough considering the whole Fawad narrative that has been forced down our throats for years.

The only intellectual dishonesty is by the Fawad propagandists who would abuse Shafiq and praise Fawad for producing the same numbers.

Shafiq with an average of 35 at an age of 35 was not good enough to be in the team, but Fawad with an average of 35 at the age of 35 is untouchable.

the average is only one thing, fawad since his comeback has two hundreds, azhar is the only other batsmen to have scored a hundred since. fawad will be less consistent than shafiq, but he'll make his starts count more if his test stats are anything to go by.

also no one called for shafiqs head until it was obvious that one his form was regressing, he averaged 30 overs his last 30 tests, if fawad averages 30 over his next ten tests then he wont deserve his place in the team either.

but shafiq was the worst investment pak made, even afridi in the uae would have been a much better test batsmen if he didnt retire in 2010.
 
the average is only one thing, fawad since his comeback has two hundreds, azhar is the only other batsmen to have scored a hundred since. fawad will be less consistent than shafiq, but he'll make his starts count more if his test stats are anything to go by.

also no one called for shafiqs head until it was obvious that one his form was regressing, he averaged 30 overs his last 30 tests, if fawad averages 30 over his next ten tests then he wont deserve his place in the team either.

but shafiq was the worst investment pak made, even afridi in the uae would have been a much better test batsmen if he didnt retire in 2010.

That hundred in New Zealand was a classic Shafiq type innings. It came too late to help Pakistan win and ended too early to help Pakistan draw.

Had Shafiq played that innings - and he has played such innings multiple times - he would be bashed for playing for his place, but since Fawad played that innings, it was laudable as some lionhearted innings.

People are going over the top with all the Fawad praise and adulation. They are more invested in what he could have done over the years rather than what he is doing now.

However, that ship has failed and if we are looking at his current performances objectively, he is not doing an exceptional job by any means and is not worthy of the praise that he has received from all quarters of the country.
 
Again, if Vihari was kept out of the team for years and some Indian fans just won’t shut up about the so-called injustice, you would expect Vihari to perform well above the norm whenever he would get his chance.
I wouldn't expect ANY batsman to perform above the norm at age 35 no matter their FC record. I certainly wouldn't be senselessly attacking Vihari at every opportunity like you are with Fawad had Indian selectors gave him the same treatment despite similarly outstanding FC numbers.

Selection is about giving the player the best chance to succeed, realising guys like Younis and Misbah were anomalies, and giving them a fair shake in their prime. Yes one shouldn't go overboard, but Fawad at age 35 with fading reflexes even scoring these tons against NZ's pace quartet, and SAF's Rabada and Nortje is laudable.

He has showed that Pakistan did not miss him. His output is roughly equal to that of Azhar and Shafiq.

This idea that he is now past his prime otherwise he would be uprooting trees is just a convenient cop-out.
No it's the reality of international cricket. Is a batsman in their prime at age 35 according to you then ?

An average of 35 is just not good enough considering the whole Fawad narrative that has been forced down our throats for years.

Let's see him perform over a larger sample before declaring his recall a failure. Fact is without his hundred in Karachi we wouldn't be 1-0 up vs SAF.

The only intellectual dishonesty is by the Fawad propagandists who would abuse Shafiq and praise Fawad for producing the same numbers.
Asad Shafiq produced those numbers after 10 years, 77 consecutive Tests including 45 in Asia. Fawad averages 39 despite not playing a single Test in Pakistan or UAE prior to this series, with his first four comeback Tests in ENG and NZL.

That's why your entire argument is dishonest and smacks of somebody whose posting quality since 2016 plummeted to an ICF level troll where you should set up residence and do us all a favour. And I say that as someone who agrees Pakistan are a thoroughly mediocre team in all forms.
 
Also [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] it would help your defence against intellectual dishonesty if you actually remembered your own arguments.

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Unless he averages 50+ in Test cricket which he should considering his FC record, there is no need to feel sorry for him.

Feb 4th:

Fawad is not being criticized for not replicating his FC average.
 
Seriously Mamoon. He is the reason you won the first test.

He was part of the partnership that steadied the ship in the second test.

One failure in three innings this series is a pretty good return.
 
Also [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] it would help your defence against intellectual dishonesty if you actually remembered your own arguments.

Jan 31st:



Feb 4th:

He is the master of propaganda and the spin. You will see him changing arguments and the whole narrative like the old proverbial Girgit in urdu.
You cant reason with him. You will just lose some more hair if you try as he will keep coming up with alternate wordplay.
 
That hundred in New Zealand was a classic Shafiq type innings. It came too late to help Pakistan win and ended too early to help Pakistan draw.

Had Shafiq played that innings - and he has played such innings multiple times - he would be bashed for playing for his place, but since Fawad played that innings, it was laudable as some lionhearted innings.

People are going over the top with all the Fawad praise and adulation. They are more invested in what he could have done over the years rather than what he is doing now.

However, that ship has failed and if we are looking at his current performances objectively, he is not doing an exceptional job by any means and is not worthy of the praise that he has received from all quarters of the country.

yes, agree with that, but then he also scored a hundred in the karachi test in a crunch situation which was a very unshafiq like innings.

the point im making is shafiq didnt deserve his spot in the side, averaging 30 over his last 30 tests, which was a total waste of the 10 years invested in him.

fawad may not prove to be signficantly better in the long run, but his domestic stats warranted he got a chance a lot earlier than he did, especially given shafiq didn't deserve his spot in the side.
 
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As part of its policy to acknowledge, incentivise and reward high-performing cricketers, the PCB has also elevated Fawad Alam from A+ domestic contract category to Category C of the PCB Central Contract List 2020-21.

Fawad Alam scored centuries against New Zealand and South Africa, and has now aggregated 320 runs in 11 innings of six Tests. His 102 against New Zealand in the Boxing Day Test earned him the PCB Individual Performance of 2020 award.
 
Usual good stuff from Fawad - he must dream of coming in when score 150 or above!
 
Can't believe he survived and batted today. Will be found out sooner or later. Sucks the life out of game, an ugly, horrible watch.
 
Keeps scoring despite the fact that he looks like he is going to fail.

I wish though he doesnt block some of the full tosses and half volleys.
 
Fawad Alams test career showing a similar trajectory to Misbah. Not selected for numerous years during the supposed “peak” of their careers , and then get selected in their mid 30s and continuously proving their haters wrong .

Well done lad.

I read above that he sucks the life out of an innings . Mate you rather watch the “hundred” as you seem to have no idea what test cricket is all about .
 
Looks like Babar is getting educated on how to bore the oppossition at the other end.
 
Fawad is honestly an absolute eye sore to watch. Horrible technique. The guy looks like he is constantly falling over, but he scores runs. The same can't be said for half of our batsmen, so Fawad is a must in our test team.
 
Doesn’t matter if Fawad bats on one leg. Provided he’s scoring runs, that’s what counts. There are bigger issues with the top order batsmen and a declining spinner.
 
Fawad Alams test career showing a similar trajectory to Misbah. Not selected for numerous years during the supposed “peak” of their careers , and then get selected in their mid 30s and continuously proving their haters wrong .

Well done lad.

I read above that he sucks the life out of an innings . Mate you rather watch the “hundred” as you seem to have no idea what test cricket is all about .

Yep, nobody appreciates someone who’s come out on a difficult situation.
 
Fawad deserves a great amount of respect for how he is playing.

Had he been playing at his peak in the UAE he would have milked a lot of runs.

Yes he may be past it now but still he has the mental fortitude to stich some runs together at a decent average.
 
Embarrassing to watch him on his knees and panting as if he has been batting for 9 sessions and broke Lara’s record.

Our players are not athletes. It is comical.

Considering his embarrassing fitness, maybe he would have retired already if he had played all these years.

He is clearly no Younis and Misbah as far as mileage is concerned.
 
Fawad’s innings so far in his comeback have really had an impact on the match. No soft runs are scored by him.
 
Embarrassing to watch him on his knees and panting as if he has been batting for 9 sessions and broke Lara’s record.

Our players are not athletes. It is comical.

Considering his embarrassing fitness, maybe he would have retired already if he had played all these years.

He is clearly no Younis and Misbah as far as mileage is concerned.

Fawad consistently comes near the top of Pakistan's fitness tests even today. You don't average what Fawad averages in FC without having a serious engine on you.

Fitness has never been an issue for him. Today is more likely to be an anomaly or admittedly age catching up with him, but he is never been known to be a slouch and deserves a lot more credit than you're giving him.
 
Fawad consistently comes near the top of Pakistan's fitness tests even today. You don't average what Fawad averages in FC without having a serious engine on you.

Fitness has never been an issue for him. Today is more likely to be an anomaly or admittedly age catching up with him, but he is never been known to be a slouch and deserves a lot more credit than you're giving him.

Even the WI keeper went off with cramps.
 
Fawad consistently comes near the top of Pakistan's fitness tests even today. You don't average what Fawad averages in FC without having a serious engine on you.

Fitness has never been an issue for him. Today is more likely to be an anomaly or admittedly age catching up with him, but he is never been known to be a slouch and deserves a lot more credit than you're giving him.

Heat is a big factor and i think it was about +30C out there, you try doing physical activity out there let alone walking plus having to concentrate on the Dukes ball it's not an easy task. If someone young like DeSilva is feeling it then why can't Fawad.

Stop taking everything of what Mamoon saying is gospel, the man hasn't held a bat in his life and all he does is moan.
 
Will he be able to bat again? What's his condition now?

Again he has come forward to help his team when it needed most. A guy with a big heart, waited all these years even after being treated so unfairly, didn't blame anyone and at his off peak period of his career he is still delivering better than others of the team. It only shows his class.
 
Will he be able to bat again? What's his condition now?

Again he has come forward to help his team when it needed most. A guy with a big heart, waited all these years even after being treated so unfairly, didn't blame anyone and at his off peak period of his career he is still delivering better than others of the team. It only shows his class.

It’s just dehydration, cramp and heat exhaustion. Babar at his end of day review says he’s confident he’ll bat tomorrow.

Nothing some fluids, rest, paracetamol and an icy shower/bath can’t fix.
 
Will he be able to bat again? What's his condition now?

Again he has come forward to help his team when it needed most. A guy with a big heart, waited all these years even after being treated so unfairly, didn't blame anyone and at his off peak period of his career he is still delivering better than others of the team. It only shows his class.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't bat tomorrow. Apparently he had a leg cramp. Overnight rest, lots of fluids and muscle relaxants will help it.
 
Not blaming anyone is not easy. That is a lesson in positivity right there.
Most of us want to blame someone else for our problems.
 
It’s just dehydration, cramp and heat exhaustion. Babar at his end of day review says he’s confident he’ll bat tomorrow.

Nothing some fluids, rest, paracetamol and an icy shower/bath can’t fix.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't bat tomorrow. Apparently he had a leg cramp. Overnight rest, lots of fluids and muscle relaxants will help it.

Thanks for the information. By the by, is any of you a doctor? Just curious.
 
I would rate Fawad higher than Misbah as test batsmen . He has scored when team needed most
 
Both Inzi and Misbah are main culprits. They deprived him 10,000 runs.
 
Thanks for the information. By the by, is any of you a doctor? Just curious.

No, but think it’s a pretty common side effect of being out in the heat for a long time that to in +30C weather. InshAllah it’s nothing serious.

All I can go is by my experience of suffering from a cramp when I walked up a steep incline and when I got awful sunburn and dehydration from working outside in the heat for a long time.
 
He is 10x better batsman than Mental Midget Shafiq yet Asad Shafiq played from 2010 -2017 because both played in the same department. Misbah has never been fair in his selection.
 
Continues to prove his detractors wrong. Both here on PP and in the Pakistan cricket system. And he's still not out.
 
Both Inzi and Misbah are main culprits. They deprived him 10,000 runs.

No, but think it’s a pretty common side effect of being out in the heat for a long time that to in +30C weather. InshAllah it’s nothing serious.

All I can go is by my experience of suffering from a cramp when I walked up a steep incline and when I got awful sunburn and dehydration from working outside in the heat for a long time.

And they ultimately gave him a chance at the age of 34 ,when many English batsmen retire after a long playing career of 120 plus tests. Pakistan cricket missed the cream part of his career when he was in full blossom as a batsman. Interestingly yet he is scoring more than the established batsmen like Azhar, Babar. It proves his class.

Misbah did injustice to Fawad exactly what Pakistan selectors did to him in his playing career. Misbah got chance to play tests only after scoring 12000 runs in first class cricket. It's like I shall do ragging to u because I faced the same.

Asad Shafiq I think is the most luckiest player in Pakistan cricket history. I can't remember any player who played so many tests with such limitations and such ordinary FC record.
 
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And they ultimately gave him a chance at the age of 34 ,when many English batsmen retire after a long playing career of 120 plus tests. Pakistan cricket missed the cream part of his career when he was in full blossom as a batsman. Interestingly yet he is scoring more than the established batsmen like Azhar, Babar. It proves his class.

Misbah did injustice to Fawad exactly what Pakistan selectors did to him in his playing career. Misbah got chance to play tests only after scoring 12000 runs in first class cricket. It's like I shall do ragging to u because I faced the same.

Asad Shafiq I think is the most luckiest player in Pakistan cricket history. I can't remember any player who played so many tests with such limitations and such ordinary FC record.

I think I’m not gonna fully blame misbah but I blame our whole PCB system. I bet to get into the team the purchi way, you’d send the chief selector a box of sweets from Gormet Sweets or a Haandi of biryani and they’d say “play this boy”. Pakistan cricket is the most corrupt in my eyes and not only one individual can be blamed but it’s collectively a lot and i also include our Pak media.

However, this is Fawad’s redemption song and if he keeps this level of fitness InshAllah he plays till he’s 42 in my view.
 
Embarrassing to watch him on his knees and panting as if he has been batting for 9 sessions and broke Lara’s record.

Our players are not athletes. It is comical.

Considering his embarrassing fitness, maybe he would have retired already if he had played all these years.

He is clearly no Younis and Misbah as far as mileage is concerned.

The energy it must take to be bitter 100% of the time is truly amazing!!! Worse, you’re clearly watching a lot of Pakistan Cricket which is difficult, and then have the energy to post negative comments on this website. It all seems miserable and depressing.
 
I think I’m not gonna fully blame misbah but I blame our whole PCB system. I bet to get into the team the purchi way, you’d send the chief selector a box of sweets from Gormet Sweets or a Haandi of biryani and they’d say “play this boy”. Pakistan cricket is the most corrupt in my eyes and not only one individual can be blamed but it’s collectively a lot and i also include our Pak media.

However, this is Fawad’s redemption song and if he keeps this level of fitness InshAllah he plays till he’s 42 in my view.

Fawad’s success is a mirror to everything that is wrong about the way we think about cricket.
 
Fawad’s success is a mirror to everything that is wrong about the way we think about cricket.

I mean it’s just like they mentioned on commentary yesterday, Fawad and Chanderpaul had a chat one time and Chanderpaul’s words were “just score runs” and at the end of the day that is what should be a measurement of a player. Don’t assume that someone will not succeed just because you don’t understand the way they play, if it’s working and showing results then nothing matters.
 
Really like this guy, despite his age, just get his head down and scores runs. Shame Misbah screwed him over for so many years.
 
The fact that he was not selected for such a long time and people like Ramiz Raja openly criticised him shows that Pakistani cricketers themselves lack game awareness and an eye for identifying aptitude.
 
Really like this guy, despite his age, just get his head down and scores runs. Shame Misbah screwed him over for so many years.

Again it’s a collective issue of our whole system. Media never believed in the guy, nor did head coaches, nor domestic coaches.

Everyone is to be blamed just like what they did with Asim Kamal another individual who was robbed and in my view a threat to our middle order. This is not your dad’s/uncle’s team it’s Pakistan’s team,

I’m just glad a somewhat competent selector is part of our system. Pak fans kept bellowing that he be made part of the test setup and look now, easily could’ve surpassed 10k runs had he been given a good chance.

To add as well Fawad has relished the hard moments and hasn’t come out to bat in easy times which is something that should be acknowledged.
 
Shoaib Akhtar speaking on TV:

“Fawad Alam is a genius. He has done TV, played cricket and featured in dramas but always kept performing. He sincerely plays for Pakistan despite being out of the side for 11 years. Hats off to him"
 
Seen enough of him at test level by now (When he has possibly passed his peak years in terms of age) to say that he would have had over 20 test 100s by now if he would have been inducted when he should have been. One of the biggest anomalies of cricket would be his non inclusion in test setup for a decade with as extraordinary FC record as his.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fawad Alam with his 4th Test century in his last 8 Tests.<br><br>Overall it's his 5th century in just 13 Test matches.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WIvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WIvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/eXhcykg13c">pic.twitter.com/eXhcykg13c</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1429533181930348552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2021</a></blockquote>
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and just for context asad shafiq took 33 tests over 4 years to score his last 4 test hundreds.
 
Really really happy for fawad. He knows only way to silence his critiques is to score runs and thats what he is doing. Don't want to think about what could have been , just want him to play for another 4 5 years and score tons of runs.
 
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