Fawad Alam - Support Thread

[chacha kashmiri]

Fawad could be the next batsmen cum spinner once hafeez finally retires, he done wonders with the bowl today and kept the runs down too

 

[GreenKnightRises]

Lol. If Misbah can make the ODI squad, why can't Fawad??

 

[ramizq1]

Well I was watching his innings today and I will be honest with you nothing has changed about him since I last saw him in 2009/10 against Srilanka I think. When I last saw him, he was playing against Srilanka and Dilhara Fernando was bowling. Fawad kept poking it to the offside for no run. Playing with the same limited swing in his bat. The run rate was pretty miser but fawad couldnot accelerate at the top of the order. Mahela was the captain back then he saw fawad playing the same shot on the same delivery outside the off stump. He brought a fielder at short cover. Dilhara flighted the ball and fawad hit it straight to the fielder and got out... That in summary is Fawad Alam for Limited overs cricket..

But I'll be honest the beard does look good on him!

He made 27 off 37 balls in a t20 game. I think that is criminal for a batsman specially in a t20.

Ok lets admit they only had to chase down 97 off 20 overs against the Stallions. But what if the score was 197 would you still want fawad alam chasing down the score for you in a limited overs game. Its the same old problem with him, poking the ball, can't find the gap on the offside. When he does hit the ball there is no natural swing of the bat. He makes batting look soo effort-ful.

He was 17 off 33 and then he started to accelerate. Its more down to the other guy Sharyar was his name I think. He made 31 of 25 balls which helped Dolphins accelerate and eventually win the match. Fawad is just too slow for t20 game. No wonder he is not playing limited overs cricket. In test cricket I think he definitely deserves a spot.

People say Azhar Ali was slow. I think him and Azhar Ali would almost play on the same pace. So imo for a test side either one of them would be enough for the team. Because you want a balance of flare players with accumulators. We have Misbah and Ali at the moment. If we add Azhar Misbah Fawad to the same team then we get a team that is really skewed towards the types of players that bring pressure on themselves. And doesnot bode well for the balance of the team.

I dont think ANYONE is suggesting we play him in T20's. A blind person can see that he's got the temperament and batting ability of a solid middle order TEST player.

 

[Mamoon]

He's garbage in ODIs and its a myth that he can rotate the strike. Such a limited batsman he is.

If he would have been persisted with in ODIs, he would have been a TTF by now and one of the most hated players on PP.

You can make a case for him in Tests, but in ODIs? LOL.

 

[Mamoon]

Fawad could be the next batsmen cum spinner once hafeez finally retires, he done wonders with the bowl today and kept the runs down too

Not really. There is hardly any spinner in the world who can keep the run rate down and strangle the batsman.

The last time I saw Fawad bowling was in World T20 2009 where he bowled an over and was taken to the cleaners by Kallis.

That paved a way for South Africa to make a comeback in the match.

 

[samiakh]

He's garbage in ODIs and its a myth that he can rotate the strike. Such a limited batsman he is.

If he would have been persisted with in ODIs, he would have been a TTF by now and one of the most hated players on PP.

You can make a case for him in Tests, but in ODIs? LOL.

This is one of the most absurd comments I have read about a player. If he had been tried, he would have failed! Buddy if you are that good a figuring out who will succeed and fail in intl then you should apply for the chief selector job. I think this guy can play a role in ODI not in t20 but definitely in ODI. He has the lowest dot ball percentage in Pak intl ODI history. And for those criticizing his performance in ystdy match against Sialkot, did he or did he not finish up on the winning side.

 

[iafzal]

He's garbage in ODIs and its a myth that he can rotate the strike. Such a limited batsman he is.

If he would have been persisted with in ODIs, he would have been a TTF by now and one of the most hated players on PP.

You can make a case for him in Tests, but in ODIs? LOL.

Wow obviously you have no idea what you are talking about

Fawad in ODIs
ODIs 27 25 9 603 64 37.68 817 73.80 0 4 32 1
SR of 73.8 scoring 817 runs with only 134 coming off the boundaries. So he scores only 22.2% of his runs in boundaries and still manages a decent 73.8 SR.

Now look at the beloved Ahmed Shehzad
ODIs 40 40 1 1286 124 32.97 1831 70.23 4 5 126 13

Shehzad scores 45% of runs in boundaries and still only manages 70.23 SR why???
May not be obvious to you but to all others it is clear he cannot rotate the strike to save his life.

Fawad is very good in rotating the strike as shown by high percentage of runs coming from other than boundaries and still managing SR of 73.8 in ODI. Forgot to mention Fawad's ODI avg is also better than Shehzad despite his recent good scores against SL.

Next time before you post take a moment to think and back what you write rather than typical blaber

 

[Adil_94]

Fawad Alam support thread [Merged]

Fawad in ODIS is a guy who can nudge and nurdle it but he's not a finisher he can be a good no 3 and can set up a platform for U Akmal Afridi and Hafeez if we play him down the order

 

[Adil_94]

Fawad Alam support thread [Merged]

Wow obviously you have no idea what you are talking about

Fawad in ODIs
ODIs 27 25 9 603 64 37.68 817 73.80 0 4 32 1
SR of 73.8 scoring 817 runs with only 134 coming off the boundaries. So he scores only 22.2% of his runs in boundaries and still manages a decent 73.8 SR.

Now look at the beloved Ahmed Shehzad
ODIs 40 40 1 1286 124 32.97 1831 70.23 4 5 126 13

Shehzad scores 45% of runs in boundaries and still only manages 70.23 SR why???
May not be obvious to you but to all others it is clear he cannot rotate the strike to save his life.

Fawad is very good in rotating the strike as shown by high percentage of runs coming from other than boundaries and still managing SR of 73.8 in ODI. Forgot to mention his avg is also better than Shehzad despite have some good scores in ODI recently.

Tbf Mamoon is one of Shehzads biggest critics these stats will be music to his ears you should show these to Bullet Drive

 

[Xoib]

Mamoon has to be the most inconsistent member on this forum. He can post some real articulate gems but he is as likely to sprout some random rubbish.He is this forums

 

[Gigii]

LOL at people trying to judge Fawad on yesterdays innings. The other Karachi players barely had a grip on how to proceed, didn't know whether to stick or twist.

Both he and Ghani stayed in when it was difficult to time and starting hitting boundaries when they got the measure of the pitch.

I call that match craft, and something that most Pakistani batsman do not have.

 

[Gigii]

Wow obviously you have no idea what you are talking about

Fawad in ODIs
ODIs 27 25 9 603 64 37.68 817 73.80 0 4 32 1
SR of 73.8 scoring 817 runs with only 134 coming off the boundaries. So he scores only 22.2% of his runs in boundaries and still manages a decent 73.8 SR.

Now look at the beloved Ahmed Shehzad
ODIs 40 40 1 1286 124 32.97 1831 70.23 4 5 126 13

Shehzad scores 45% of runs in boundaries and still only manages 70.23 SR why???
May not be obvious to you but to all others it is clear he cannot rotate the strike to save his life.

Fawad is very good in rotating the strike as shown by high percentage of runs coming from other than boundaries and still managing SR of 73.8 in ODI. Forgot to mention Fawad's ODI avg is also better than Shehzad despite his recent good scores against SL.

Next time before you post take a moment to think and back what you write rather than typical blaber

You also need to think about what position and time and also, what era they played. Fawad played before the rule changes about the batting PP mandatory between 15 and 35 overs etc and Shehzad has the first PP with even more men in the circle so naturally rotating strike is slightly more difficult.

So for me, comparing SR and boundary percentages isn't fully telling of the story.

 

[Haz95]

Wow obviously you have no idea what you are talking about

Fawad in ODIs
ODIs 27 25 9 603 64 37.68 817 73.80 0 4 32 1
SR of 73.8 scoring 817 runs with only 134 coming off the boundaries. So he scores only 22.2% of his runs in boundaries and still manages a decent 73.8 SR.

Now look at the beloved Ahmed Shehzad
ODIs 40 40 1 1286 124 32.97 1831 70.23 4 5 126 13

Shehzad scores 45% of runs in boundaries and still only manages 70.23 SR why???
May not be obvious to you but to all others it is clear he cannot rotate the strike to save his life.

Fawad is very good in rotating the strike as shown by high percentage of runs coming from other than boundaries and still managing SR of 73.8 in ODI. Forgot to mention Fawad's ODI avg is also better than Shehzad despite his recent good scores against SL.

Next time before you post take a moment to think and back what you write rather than typical blaber

Not exactly. Naturally, Shehzad would have a lower SR and more dot balls cos he will be making the new ball old cos he's an opener. Fawad is a middle order batsman so he should be rotating the strike, something Umar Akmal and Hafeez-when both are on song along with Maqsood all can do quite well.

 

[iafzal]

Not exactly. Naturally, Shehzad would have a lower SR and more dot balls cos he will be making the new ball old cos he's an opener. Fawad is a middle order batsman so he should be rotating the strike, something Umar Akmal and Hafeez-when both are on song along with Maqsood all can do quite well.

Keep in mind my point was not too belittle Shehzad per se but to point out a comparison with someone who has played about the same number of ODIs. My point is Fawad is in fact very good at rotating strike which except YK no one else does well in the Pak team.

Yes Shehzad is an opener and may have some field restriction but his scores 45% of his runs through boundaries vs 22% for Fawad which is double the difference and cannot be solely blamed on being an opener.

 

[Haz95]

You can compare Fawad with Hafeez and Maqsood as they both are pretty much identical to Fawad but have diferent styles of play. Hafeez and Maqsood both can rotate the strike well. Currently, there's balance and Fawad will not find a spot in the ODI or T20 XI. The only place he can get into is the #6 spot for test sbut someone like Maqsood, Akmal or Haris would be better there due to shots and future causes.
Fawad is a #3 batsman but azhar is secured with that 100 he made vs SL so allow him. I would still have him in the squads.

 

[as-95]

Mamoon has to be the most inconsistent member on this forum. He can post some real articulate gems but he is as likely to sprout some random rubbish.He is this forums

Yep, His views seem to change like the wind.

 

[itsme]

You can't afford another misbah ul haq in LOI ,maybe he can play test,
but i personnaly think he is a rubbish player.

 

[waleed88]

Fawad Alam made 27 off 37 balls in a t20 game against Sialkot Stallions. In what world is the player good enough for limited over cricket. He piled on the pressure on his partner Shahryar (I don't remember his name) and it was shehryar who scored at a quicker rate. Scoring at around 31 of 23 balls which helped the Dolphins win the match. Before Fawad hit a couple of boundaries at the end. He was playing at a staggering rate of 19 of 33 balls or something. And they were only chasing 97. He is really sore on the eyes, its a pain to watch him bat.

Mind you this was against a domestic level attack where only Raza Hasan was an actual threat. I can't imagine Fawad chasing down a score like 197 in a t20 game. Or playing at a run ball in the ODIs if the target is more than 300. He is rightly benched out of the squad. Maybe he has a case in the test matches but THAT should be about it.

 

[Bullet Drive]

If you watched the game you would see it was a tough pitch to bat on. Fawad had no partners and if he got out early, KD would have lost the game.

He was the MOTM. Calm down.

 

[iafzal]

Fawad Alam made 27 off 37 balls in a t20 game against Sialkot Stallions. In what world is the player good enough for limited over cricket. He piled on the pressure on his partner Shahryar (I don't remember his name) and it was shehryar who scored at a quicker rate. Scoring at around 31 of 23 balls which helped the Dolphins win the match. Before Fawad hit a couple of boundaries at the end. He was playing at a staggering rate of 19 of 33 balls or something. And they were only chasing 97. He is really sore on the eyes, its a pain to watch him bat.

Mind you this was against a domestic level attack where only Raza Hasan was an actual threat. I can't imagine Fawad chasing down a score like 197 in a t20 game. Or playing at a run ball in the ODIs if the target is more than 300. He is rightly benched out of the squad. Maybe he has a case in the test matches but THAT should be about it.

What is the problem how he scores his runs in an ODI as long he has a good SR. His SR of 73.8 after playing 27 ODIs is still better than many of the other players. I haev already proven he is one of the better at rotating the strike so it should not put pressure on the other players
We can just have so many Afirid, Amin or Umar style tulay baz in the team.

 

[farsiddiqui]

Fawad Alam made 27 off 37 balls in a t20 game against Sialkot Stallions. In what world is the player good enough for limited over cricket. He piled on the pressure on his partner Shahryar (I don't remember his name) and it was shehryar who scored at a quicker rate. Scoring at around 31 of 23 balls which helped the Dolphins win the match. Before Fawad hit a couple of boundaries at the end. He was playing at a staggering rate of 19 of 33 balls or something. And they were only chasing 97. He is really sore on the eyes, its a pain to watch him bat.

Mind you this was against a domestic level attack where only Raza Hasan was an actual threat. I can't imagine Fawad chasing down a score like 197 in a t20 game. Or playing at a run ball in the ODIs if the target is more than 300. He is rightly benched out of the squad. Maybe he has a case in the test matches but THAT should be about it.

They were chasing a low total and had already lost a few wickets early. He came in and stayed till the end and got the victory.

Would you rather, he did come out slogging, hitting a 6 and getting out the next ball and losing the game?

 

[AZ]

Nauman Niaz revealed on commentary today that he might be recalled for the Asia Cup.

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[Extreme Pace]

Majid Bhatti said the same thing. Hopefully he gets picked for Asia Cup but NOT the WT20. He should be playing in Test and ODIs.

 

[Mamoon]

Finally PP will stop crying. That's one massive positive I see in this selection

 

[menace2society]

Shehzad
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Alam
Misbah
Umar Akmal

That batting unit looks strong.

Shafiq and Amin when he played were big weaknesses in team. With them gone we can aim for consistent 280+ scores on SC pitches.

 

[razabbas]

Shehzad
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Alam
Misbah
Umar Akmal

That batting unit looks strong.

Shafiq and Amin when he played were big weaknesses in team. With them gone we can aim for consistent 280+ scores on SC pitches.

so a guy who avgs 40 in his early days will be kicked ? Maqsood

Anyways good to see bench strngeth in batting deprmnt
Ahmed
Sharjeel
Jamshed
Sami aslam
Babar azam
Fawad Alam
Hairs sohail
Maqsood

 

[EarthBoltX]

^^
After Jamshed, we're afraid to keep anyone in for too long, I guess.

Which also explains why people have been wanting Sharjeel already dropped as well.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Who should he come in for?

Support him but no place for him.

Sharjeel, Shehzad, Hafeez, Maqsood, Misbah, Akmal

 

[Haz95]

Who should he come in for?

Support him but no place for him.

Sharjeel, Shehzad, Hafeez, Maqsood, Misbah, Akmal

remove sharjeel, hafeez opens, maqsood @3, alam/sohail @4....
That's if sharjel fails..

 

[chacha kashmiri]

not sure where he'd fit into the asian cup team
it's not like pakistan have just beat sa or sl

 

[Arsh_afridi]

Ahmad shahzad
Hafeez
Maqsod
Fawad
Misbah
Umar
Afridi/ Anwar
Bhatti/Anwar
Junaid
Irfan
Ajmal

 

[Extreme Pace]

Who should he come in for?

Support him but no place for him.

Sharjeel, Shehzad, Hafeez, Maqsood, Misbah, Akmal

He can be in the reserve for now, should be in the playing XI for Tests.

 

[veeray]

Fawad Alam made 27 off 37 balls in a t20 game against Sialkot Stallions. In what world is the player good enough for limited over cricket. He piled on the pressure on his partner Shahryar (I don't remember his name) and it was shehryar who scored at a quicker rate. Scoring at around 31 of 23 balls which helped the Dolphins win the match. Before Fawad hit a couple of boundaries at the end. He was playing at a staggering rate of 19 of 33 balls or something. And they were only chasing 97. He is really sore on the eyes, its a pain to watch him bat.

Mind you this was against a domestic level attack where only Raza Hasan was an actual threat. I can't imagine Fawad chasing down a score like 197 in a t20 game. Or playing at a run ball in the ODIs if the target is more than 300. He is rightly benched out of the squad. Maybe he has a case in the test matches but THAT should be about it.

you watched that game??that was a difficult pitch to bat on.they were chasing a small target & were already 4 down with score in 20's..so u wanted fawad to slog at every bal and get out..? that is the way you think cricket is played??

 

[Xoib]

I support him but he has no space in odi playing XI which looks settled should be a part of 15 man squad though.

 

[Hawkeye]

OMG, it will be a BLUNDER to include him in ODI team.

He has no place whatsoever in any limited overs squad. A VERY VERY limited player who will struggle a lot to clear the inner circle even, has no ability to score runs AT WILL or at pace at all.

In TESTS however he can be included.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

^ but it's okay to try Azhar and asad who are ever worse in this regard?


Fawad was almost always made to play the striker role which he can't. Only batted once in the top 4 , made a run a ball 39 against England.

Currently he will be hard pressed to get into the 11, but he should be in the squad

 

[cricketerB94]

What if we go with 5 bowlers for the first time in Misbah tenure?
1- Shehzad
2- Sharjeel
3- Hafeez
4- Fawad
5- Misbah
6- Maqsood
7- Ukmal
8- Afridi
9- Talha
10- Ajmal
11- Junaid

Maqsood and Fawad can also bowl as part timers.

 

[Ahson8]

Fawad > Sharjeel (ODIs)
Can he open ?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Fawad > Sharjeel (ODIs)
Can he open ?

he opened in his test debut (first time in first class career i think)

Could work given our current options , but better to invest in a proper opener for the long run

 

[waleed88]

you watched that game??that was a difficult pitch to bat on.they were chasing a small target & were already 4 down with score in 20's..so u wanted fawad to slog at every bal and get out..? that is the way you think cricket is played??

Were you trying to be smart with your reply?
How do you explain the other guy scoring more than a run a ball? Scoring more than fawad in lesser balls? He made around 32 in 21 deliveries. Its due to fawad that the match went down to run a ball.. A player with common sense was the other left hander who played the ball on merit.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Great news.

Fawad Alam has been selected for Asia Cup. He has just confirmed to me

 

[Asif321]

Latest Pic of Misbah and Fawad , is it signalling Fawad's comeback in Asia Cup ???

hahaha picture doesnt lie , it certainly was signal for Asia Cup ticket

 

[waleed88]

What is the problem how he scores his runs in an ODI as long he has a good SR. His SR of 73.8 after playing 27 ODIs is still better than many of the other players. I haev already proven he is one of the better at rotating the strike so it should not put pressure on the other players
We can just have so many Afirid, Amin or Umar style tulay baz in the team.

Even though I am a Karachite. I would never want Alam to play for Pakistan in a limited overs format. This guy simply doesnot know how to bat. He will be found out at the International level. There was a plan against him when he last played ODI cricket. And if you stick to the plan you can limit him, because he has only one dimension to his game. He has already been found out like I posted before, and that is the reason he is playing at the domestic level. That awkward batting style, and no power in his shots. In a situation where Fawad has to clear the infield we would rarely see a boundary and won't see alot of singles if the field is close in. He is substandard for ODIs and t20s. Maybe in the 90s you would see players like him who accumulate runs, but the game has really changed. Miandad was an accumulator but could hit the big shots whenever required. Fawad sorry to say cannot even clear the ropes if his life depended on it. If a team had to chase down 300. You won't be relying on Fawad that is for sure.

In England even Trott is considered a selfish batsman for the ODIs and hence he has been in and out of the limited overs team. You don't want too many accumulators in one side.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Heres hoping he gets run a in the top 4 in ODIS some time soon and replaces Shafiq in tests

 

[Asif321]

i had told you if Moin becomes coach , Fawad will be selected

 

[Mamoon]

Thankfully some respite for PPers finally.

pakistanigoneaussie and his compatriots can party.

 

[Extreme Pace]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Finally, hopefully he gets a chance in tests as well.

 

[Ahson8]

Yessss. So happy for the guy

 

[Moe]

Yeyeyeyeye! Happy for Fawad

 

[GreenKnightRises]

Cool. Finally Misbah gives the green signal for Fawad. Hope he does the same in Test squad too.

 

[Mr Consistent]

Finally he is selected for asia cup i hope he perform well

 

[anakwalajinn]

Been waiting for this day for more than 3 years. Really, really happy today

 

[Hawkeye]

^ but it's okay to try Azhar and asad who are ever worse in this regard?


Fawad was almost always made to play the striker role which he can't. Only batted once in the top 4 , made a run a ball 39 against England.

Currently he will be hard pressed to get into the 11, but he should be in the squad

Lol, comparing one bad player to other bad LOI players ? All are poor LOI players, but Azhar hasn't got much ODI chances so can't judge him there.

Fawad, however, has played 27 ODIs already!!

And a surprise here, he has hit ONLY ONE SIX in those 25 innings!! And averages 37 at 73 SR.

These PPers don't look at the full picture and go all crazy over domestic stats and performances. Fawad is a TTF in ODIs/LOIs and will do more damage than help in innings building causes.

His complete inability to pace his innings at crucial times will cost us. He can't hit boundaries nor clear boundaries. I hope he's not made to play and we retain the SA/SL squad.

I will welcome him in the test squad though.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

^ yes average 37 when you played your entire career out of position is truly a TTF performance


Also having a better dot ball percentage than anyone in the team bar akmal is also TTF, no point giving him a go in the top 4 clearly

 

[Mamoon]

^ yes average 37 when you played your entire career out of position is truly a TTF performance


Also having a better dot ball percentage than anyone in the team bar akmal is also TTF, no point giving him a go in the top 4 clearly

His strike rate doesn't suggest that he can rotate the strike and he failed to finish a gazillion games in his last ODI series thanks to his weak hitting and was the reason why he couldn't get a game for 4 years and counting.

 

[Hawkeye]

^ yes average 37 when you played your entire career out of position is truly a TTF performance


Also having a better dot ball percentage than anyone in the team bar akmal is also TTF, no point giving him a go in the top 4 clearly

I don't know why you're not actually looking at the full picture, why ignoring his total inability to pace and accelerate innings.

These are very important qualities for LOI matches. He completely lacks it. Averages 37 after 27 matches at poor SR, with no ability to hit 4s and 6s. He will cost us the match in crucial times, be it chases or setting a good total.

If a batsman is not good for LOIs, why are you still blindly asking for his selection? Be realistic, the format that suits him is tests and I won't have any problem with him if he's in the test squad.

I want my team to win the ODI matches, Asia Cup and World Cup, that's why I can't bear to stand this guy in our ODI squad. Harris would've been a much better choice.

 

[steelo green]

His strike rate doesn't suggest that he can rotate the strike and he failed to finish a gazillion games in his last ODI series thanks to his weak hitting and was the reason why he couldn't get a game for 4 years and counting.

I've seen Fawad win games for Pakistan. You act as though the others have a SR of 80. He is a good rotator of the strike, which is why he has a 73 SR whereas the "big hitters" all have lower SR's.

He went home and he has only performed since, so if anything he will come back and be even better. To be fair though I don't see a spot for him in ODI unless Afridi leaves. No other position is there for the taking unless Sharjeel fails, we open again with Hafeez and insert Fawad. Let's see.

I don't know why you're so negative towards him. How about we watch and see? If he fails, he fails, but he is by no means a TTF like the many who have come and gone who didn't deserve opportunities.

 

[steelo green]

I don't know why you're not actually looking at the full picture, why ignoring his total inability to pace and accelerate innings.

These are very important qualities for LOI matches. He completely lacks it. Averages 37 after 27 matches at poor SR, with no ability to hit 4s and 6s. He will cost us the match in crucial times, be it chases or setting a good total.

If a batsman is not good for LOIs, why are you still blindly asking for his selection? Be realistic, the format that suits him is tests and I won't have any problem with him if he's in the test squad.

I want my team to win the ODI matches, Asia Cup and World Cup, that's why I can't bear to stand this guy in our ODI squad. Harris would've been a much better choice.

By this logic, half the batsmen shouldn't play based on SR. If a guy gets his runs early on, vs simply blasting in the last 5 overs it is no different. The SR tells you exactly that. Flawed logic.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

His strike rate doesn't suggest that he can rotate the strike and he failed to finish a gazillion games in his last ODI series thanks to his weak hitting and was the reason why he couldn't get a game for 4 years and counting.

Let me make this crystal slear

Only play fawad if the chance arises in the top 4.


The one chance he got there he did very decently


If we can't so that then don't play him I agree but he does merit selection in the squad. At te very least you have the best 12th man in Pakistan after yasir shah

 

[Hawkeye]

By this logic, half the batsmen shouldn't play based on SR. If a guy gets his runs early on, vs simply blasting in the last 5 overs it is no different. The SR tells you exactly that. Flawed logic.

It doesn't, your logic is flawed. What about the time when you're required to chase a total with limited overs left, at run rate above 8-9 ?

What about the time when you come at the crease but not enough overs are left to do the "tuk single", but rather you have to accelerate and set a decent total?!

Many players can hit and accelerate at that time with SRs above 100-110. They have the ability to hit 4s and 6s. Fawad DOESN'T. Yet some of them have not so great career-SRs.

He has complete inability to pace innings. He will cost us matches, if, GOD FORBID allowed to play in ODIs.

Anyway, an average of 37 after 27 ODIs is still poor with no ability to accelerate innings which is required in today's era.

Harris should've been selected.

 

[steelo green]

Let me make this crystal slear

Only play fawad if the chance arises in the top 4.


The one chance he got there he did very decently


If we can't so that then don't play him I agree but he does merit selection in the squad. At te very least you have the best 12th man in Pakistan after yasir shah

Exactly. He's not a closer, but at least with him you know singles and doubles will come at the top and will never dry up, putting pressure on bowlers. Why is hitting a boundary all that defines a cricketer? Tactics are involved. You and I both know how many times Misbah is in the middle and runs dry up and he only scores off boundaries. With an Alam it will leave the pressure off those guys a bit so they can take the big hits and he can keep rotating the strike.

I don't see a spot for him though unless we drop Sharjeel and move Hafeez up.

 

[azimiqbal]

What if we go with 5 bowlers for the first time in Misbah tenure?
1- Shehzad
2- Sharjeel
3- Hafeez
4- Fawad
5- Misbah
6- Maqsood
7- Ukmal
8- Afridi
9- Talha
10- Ajmal
11- Junaid

Maqsood and Fawad can also bowl as part timers.

love your thinking but i think you have play gul for Talha simply cause he is the best death overs bowler we have!

 

[steelo green]

It doesn't, your logic is flawed. What about the time when you're required to chase a total with limited overs left, at run rate above 8-9 ?

What about the time when you come at the crease but not enough overs are left to do the "tuk single", but rather you have to accelerate and set a decent total?!

Many players can hit and accelerate at that time with SRs above 100-110. They have the ability to hit 4s and 6s. Fawad DOESN'T. Yet some of them have not so great career-SRs.

He has complete inability to pace innings. He will cost us matches, if, GOD FORBID allowed to play in ODIs.

Anyway, an average of 37 after 27 ODIs is still poor with no ability to accelerate innings which is required in today's era.

Pakistan has a big issue of wasting overs 10-25 and not take any singles and doubles. Again, tactics. Your run rate wouldn't get that high if you rotate the strike. This is why as aussie said, he goes in the top 4 at probably 4, or not at all. He can be a useful player but depends on how you use him. Also he hasn't played an ODI in 2010. 4 years ago. Looking at how he's scoring now, he has improved.

I say give a chance to the best domestic performer over guys who don't perform domestically or internationally (hello Shafiq, Amin, Tanvir, Malik ect ect).

Farhat if you argue has had PLENTY if chances. Alam has barely had any.

 

[cricketerB94]

I don't know why you're not actually looking at the full picture, why ignoring his total inability to pace and accelerate innings.

These are very important qualities for LOI matches. He completely lacks it. Averages 37 after 27 matches at poor SR, with no ability to hit 4s and 6s. He will cost us the match in crucial times, be it chases or setting a good total.

If a batsman is not good for LOIs, why are you still blindly asking for his selection? Be realistic, the format that suits him is tests and I won't have any problem with him if he's in the test squad.

I want my team to win the ODI matches, Asia Cup and World Cup, that's why I can't bear to stand this guy in our ODI squad. Harris would've been a much better choice.

So, according to you, players like Trott, Pujara, Williamson, Chandimal, Amla should take retirement from odi cricket because they do not hit big sixes so often?
Nice logic.

 

[Haz95]

So, according to you, players like Trott, Pujara, Williamson, Chandimal, Amla should take retirement from odi cricket because they do not hit big sixes so often?
Nice logic.

LOL don't you dare involve Chandimals name, he's the T20 captain with a whopping SR of 90,

 

[iafzal]

His strike rate doesn't suggest that he can rotate the strike and he failed to finish a gazillion games in his last ODI series thanks to his weak hitting and was the reason why he couldn't get a game for 4 years and counting.

I just cannot believe you are back talking same nonsense when just few post before your concern was clearly answered but here you are again being a dheet. Pls instead of making foolish remarks back them with facts.

Here is the response on Fawad SR in post 167 of this thread.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=6508598&postcount=167

 

[hadi123]

Would've been perfect if irfan was fit

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Not sure why he's in the team over azhar ali
Obviously a sweet dish to all his fanboys to soften the blow over the other inclusions

 

[itsme]

That's good finnaly his fanboys can really see how rubbish he is.You guys are just look at strike rate and averages without looking match.

 

[LooneyReturns]

Need him in the team

 

[hussain.r97]

He's finally in the squad, but I have my doubts he'll be playing any games, although he should really be playing instead of Hafeez.... Batting order for 1st game vs SL should be...

1.)Sharjeel
2.)Shehzad
3.)Fawad
4.)Maqsood
5.)Misbah
6.)Umar Akmal
7.)Afridi
8.)Bhatti
9.)Ajmal
10.)Gul
11.)Junaid

Fawad and Maqsood can provide a 6th and 7th bowling option....

 

[iafzal]

Unless Hafeez play as opener Fawad chance to play are slim.
I do not think Hafeez will be dropped even if he does not score. His bowling is usually up to mark.

 

[Ahson8]

He's finally in the squad, but I have my doubts he'll be playing any games, although he should really be playing instead of Hafeez.... Batting order for 1st game vs SL should be...

1.)Sharjeel
2.)Shehzad
3.)Fawad
4.)Maqsood
5.)Misbah
6.)Umar Akmal
7.)Afridi
8.)Bhatti
9.)Ajmal
10.)Gul
11.)Junaid

Fawad and Maqsood can provide a 6th and 7th bowling option....

Yeah lets drop the No. 1 ODI allrounder and the guy who scored 3 100's in his last 5 ODI's. What a great idea.

Only way Fawad can slot into this ODI team is to drop Sharjeel, move Hafeez to opener and bring Fawad at #3

 

[hussain.r97]

Yeah lets drop the No. 1 ODI allrounder and the guy who scored 3 100's in his last 5 ODI's. What a great idea.

Only way Fawad can slot into this ODI team is to drop Sharjeel, move Hafeez to opener and bring Fawad at #3

I really don't care about his #1 allrounder, he is a liability in the ODI side. Yes, i agree, he is a brilliant T20 player, but in the ODI side, he's a flat track bully who bowls a few overs at a good economy rate. Fawad will improve the batting top 4 significantly and can also contribute with the bowl, along with Sohaib Maqsood.....

Why would you drop Sharjeel? He has only had one series, is incredibly talented, and could be our opening solution as he is the type of player who takes the game to the bowlers..

 

[Mamoon]

I remember Fawad's contribution with the ball.

World T20 2009, conceded 15 runs in an over that let South Africa back into the game

 

[Mamoon]

Fawad Alam has to be the most overrated cricketer in the world. I don't get the PakPassion obsession with this guy who clearly isn't suited to his ODI cricket.

He has no conviction in his shots at all.

 

[wazim azam]

Fawad Alam has to be the most overrated cricketer in the world. I don't get the PakPassion obsession with this guy who clearly isn't suited to his ODI cricket.

He has no conviction in his shots at all.

A guy that avg 37 in ODI who also has 70+ AVG this season in domestic OD comp. Deserves a opportunity. If he can not replicate his domestic numbers to ODI than complain or moan etcc. He should be given chance in Test and ODIS. At least reward him for domestic performances.

Pakistani's should get behind this guy, encouragement can do wonders for a batsman.

 

[Madplayer]

Fawad Alam has to be the most overrated cricketer in the world. I don't get the PakPassion obsession with this guy who clearly isn't suited to his ODI cricket.

He has no conviction in his shots at all.

his name should be "flawed alam"

 

[Haz95]

his name should be "flawed alam"

And you should be named Madjoker cos that was a mad joke -.-
At least give monobrow a chance, especially in tests. He will probably be like but there's no reason to try such a hard working candidate. The reason for domestic cricket is to pick the countrys best and he has been the best for the past 3-4 years ish

 

[Madplayer]

And you should be named Madjoker cos that was a mad joke -.-

lol what was that? just listen to yourself )

At least give monobrow a chance, especially in tests.

Ok i will give him a chance. Happy?

He will probably be like but there's no reason to try such a hard working candidate.

Never said he shouldnt be given a chance in tests.

The reason for domestic cricket is to pick the countrys best and he has been the best for the past 3-4 years ish

you are kidding! really? :