Fertility rate of Muslims decreasing, can never outnumber Hindus: Digvijaya Singh

[MenInG]

Bhopal: Senior Congress leader and Rajya Sabha Digvijaya Singh on Tuesday said that false propaganda is being spread that Muslim population will increase in India through polygamy and the particular community will become a majority outnumbering Hindus.

Singh made the statements while addressing a conference on the communal harmony organised jointly by Congress, Left parties and trade unions in Indore.

Taking aim at Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the senior Congress leader challenged Mohan Bhagwat and other Sangh leaders to debate on the claims that Muslims will become a majority community in India within the next 10 years.

Claiming that the fertility rate of Muslims is decreasing, Singh said false propaganda is being spread that due to the "continuous increase in the population of Muslims through polygamy they will become a majority community in India while Hindus will be reduced to a minority within the next 10 years".

“I challenge Bhagwat and small RSS pracharaks for a public debate on this subject. I will prove that Muslims can never become a majority community in this country leaving behind Hindus as the fertility rate of Muslims is decreasing,” he said.

"Anyway, it is becoming difficult due to inflation for a common man to sustain his wife and children born to her. In such circumstances, which Muslim can (afford to) have a family of four wives and children born to them?" the Congress MP asked.

Taking aim at BJP and the RSS, Singh said that both the outfits are practising "divide and rule" policy of the British to divide Hindus and Muslims.

Singh's statements come a day after Bhagwat said that Hindus and Muslims share the same ancestry and every Indian citizen is a "Hindu".

"Islam came to India with invaders. This is history and should be told in that manner. Sane Muslim leaders should oppose unnecessary issues and stand firmly against fundamentalists and hardliners. The more we do this at the earliest, the less damage it will cause to our society," he said while addressing the event 'Nation First, Nation Supreme' organised by Pune-based Global Strategic Policy.

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[TSA321]

I don’t understand why these people think polygamy will lead to greater population growth. If one Muslim man has 4 wives then surely that means another three Muslim men won’t be able to find any wives. So the net amount of kids produced by the 4 men will be the same (or even less probably). Unless they think the other men will all marry girls from outside the community which is statistically highly unlikely.

Regardless, I saw some stats a while back which showed that Hindus actually had a higher rate of polygamy than Indian Muslims did (though I think the stats were from around the 70s).

 

[Swashbuckler]

Muslims may become majority in Assam, Bengal, Kerala, Western UP (UP can be divided into 3 or 4 states in the future for governance reasons) some time by the end of 21st century. But overall they will saturate at around 20% of India's population.

 

[gazza619]

Worst place for muslims or perhaps non hindus is India.

 

[Local.Dada]

Worst place for muslims or perhaps non hindus is India.

Answer this honestly, how many Indian Muslims would want to move to Pakistan?

Let’s say the Pakistan government offers to give them or create a like for like replacement livelihood.

You said non-Hindus so I am assuming you mean Christians, Parsis as well.

Serious question.

 

[Bewal Express]

Answer this honestly, how many Indian Muslims would want to move to Pakistan?

Let’s say the Pakistan government offers to give them or create a like for like replacement livelihood.

You said non-Hindus so I am assuming you mean Christians, Parsis as well.

Serious question.

They trusted Nehru and Gandhi and now your only retort is that they can always leave. May Allah bless our baba with Jannah al firdous because he knew and foresaw what was going to happen.

 

[Local.Dada]

They trusted Nehru and Gandhi and now your only retort is that they can always leave. May Allah bless our baba with Jannah al firdous because he knew and foresaw what was going to happen.

You mean to say a Muslim from India would have better prospects in Pakistan

Lol.

Also the context is not rubbing in celebrity success stories of Muslims form India but let me make it simple for you.

Any Indian Muslim regardless of the political
Climate will never pick Pakistan over India. This has nothing to do with patriotism, religion etc.

The very fact that a poor/middle class Muslim dad or mom in India knows that their son/daughter has a shot to get out of poverty and make a great living if their son/daughter works hard,has talent and stays out of trouble while on the other hand there will be 0 Prospects for them in Pakistan.

That’s a truth you need to live with.

I don’t think eating beef for lunch or babri masjid is the most burning issue for most Muslim families over their kids futures and prospects.

Those rhetoric about ummah etc are for people who don’t have to worry about where their next meal comes from because of welfare in their country or probably because they are already affluent.

Go on a hunt and get me all the anti-india or anti-modi articles you can find of the web. Go crazy with it.

If you are a Muslim and you live in the subcontinent you have 0 prospects if you live in Pakistan,Afghanistan or to some extent even Bangladesh. That’s a cold harsh reality that hits most people in their faces but they want to look the other way.

Indian Hindus have no problem rejecting Indian passports for taking up citizenships of USA or UK dont they? Make Pakistan a viable place and trust me forget Muslims even Hindus will line up in a queue for a Pakistani visa/citizenship.

Till then nothing is going to change regardless of your pointless rants.

 

[rhony]

Worst place for muslims or perhaps non hindus is India.

No. That's Afghanistan. Muslims want to run away from that country faster than the speed of light

 

[rhony]

Muslims may become majority in Assam, Bengal, Kerala, Western UP (UP can be divided into 3 or 4 states in the future for governance reasons) some time by the end of 21st century. But overall they will saturate at around 20% of India's population.

Their issue is representation. There needs to be a national Muslim party with pan India appeal. They need to be able to elect Muslim leaders proportional to the overall Muslim population in India. I'm surprised the Muslims in India with 'Ummah' haven't figured this out yet. It's in the best interests of India as well. Muslims need to trust that there's a party that can truly work for their development instead of voting to parties just for some cash or survival. Get the youth out of the clutches of Mullahs.

 

[Bewal Express]

You mean to say a Muslim from India would have better prospects in Pakistan

Lol.

Also the context is not rubbing in celebrity success stories of Muslims form India but let me make it simple for you.

Any Indian Muslim regardless of the political
Climate will never pick Pakistan over India. This has nothing to do with patriotism, religion etc.

The very fact that a poor/middle class Muslim dad or mom in India knows that their son/daughter has a shot to get out of poverty and make a great living if their son/daughter works hard,has talent and stays out of trouble while on the other hand there will be 0 Prospects for them in Pakistan.

That’s a truth you need to live with.

I don’t think eating beef for lunch or babri masjid is the most burning issue for most Muslim families over their kids futures and prospects.

Those rhetoric about ummah etc are for people who don’t have to worry about where their next meal comes from because of welfare in their country or probably because they are already affluent.

Go on a hunt and get me all the anti-india or anti-modi articles you can find of the web. Go crazy with it.

If you are a Muslim and you live in the subcontinent you have 0 prospects if you live in Pakistan,Afghanistan or to some extent even Bangladesh. That’s a cold harsh reality that hits most people in their faces but they want to look the other way.

Indian Hindus have no problem rejecting Indian passports for taking up citizenships of USA or UK dont they? Make Pakistan a viable place and trust me forget Muslims even Hindus will line up in a queue for a Pakistani visa/citizenship.

Till then nothing is going to change regardless of your pointless rants.

I am not sure what educational levels are like but read what i said.

 

[gazza619]

Answer this honestly, how many Indian Muslims would want to move to Pakistan?

Let’s say the Pakistan government offers to give them or create a like for like replacement livelihood.

You said non-Hindus so I am assuming you mean Christians, Parsis as well.

Serious question.

I dont think any of the Indian muslims would want to leave India, after all its their home. Nobody leaves their home unless for financial reasons, and even then usually one person leaves and sends money home.

Things are getting harder and harder for muslims in India and I cannot see light at the end of the tunnel. Something has got to give in as the extremist elements are in no mood to back off.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They trusted Nehru and Gandhi and now your only retort is that they can always leave. May Allah bless our baba with Jannah al firdous because he knew and foresaw what was going to happen.

Where did Gandhi Nehru come from? Muslims were given a separate country in 1947, they stayed back of their own volition. Gandhi Nehru or anyone didnt say anything.

 

[Zaz]

Where did Gandhi Nehru come from? Muslims were given a separate country in 1947, they stayed back of their own volition. Gandhi Nehru or anyone didnt say anything.

Nehru Gandhi wanted muslims to stay in what is now india, that they would live peacefully, they advocated a communal secular constitution with equal rights to all its citizens irrespective of religion caste or creed

What do you mean they never said anything?

 

[Bewal Express]

Where did Gandhi Nehru come from? Muslims were given a separate country in 1947, they stayed back of their own volition. Gandhi Nehru or anyone didnt say anything.

You have very short memories. Many Muslims believed your lies and opposed the creation of PK and today you are asking them to leave if they don't like it.

 

[ahmedzee]

ugh! the whole "Islam came as invaders to india" brigade comes knocking.
Why are we looking at Muslims of india as invaders? Talk about recent history now and see them as fellow indians.
If we want to look at history then all humans came from Africa. Same thought can claim "africans are invaders in Europe, NA, ind etc.".

 

[rhony]

Where did Gandhi Nehru come from? Muslims were given a separate country in 1947, they stayed back of their own volition. Gandhi Nehru or anyone didnt say anything.

Nehru probably didn't because he was scared Jinnah would be the PM. But based on records, Gandhi did. He was very upset and pled Jinnah and Muslims in general to be united with the rest of the country

 

[Giannis]

Nehru Gandhi wanted muslims to stay in what is now india, that they would live peacefully, they advocated a communal secular constitution with equal rights to all its citizens irrespective of religion caste or creed

What do you mean they never said anything?

lol don't be fooled, Nehru and Gandhi were no saints and the congress wasn't a friend of Muslims. Idk why some Pakistanis make it seem like Modi/RSS is much different from the other political actors in India, it reminds me of liberal Zionists who think only Netanyahu is the bad guy and Yair Lapid is the good guy and now Israel doesn't deserve any criticism as Netanyahu has left.

 

[PakLFC]

These people are obsessed with numbers, converts and apostates. I've never known a more sadder people who seems to think of all these things every day. It means deep down they feel threatened by some Muslim takeover of India in coming years.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

ugh! the whole "Islam came as invaders to india" brigade comes knocking.
Why are we looking at Muslims of india as invaders? Talk about recent history now and see them as fellow indians.
If we want to look at history then all humans came from Africa. Same thought can claim "africans are invaders in Europe, NA, ind etc.".

Some of the posters who have replied in this thread use the same language. Even centuries later you can bet they still think of their Indian Muslims citizens this way, just don't want to say it openly, so instead they cast a vote for parties who shout the message on their behalf.

 

[Balthazar]

And they should teach about the historical caste atrocities as well and what are all the communities that played a role in that. Not just Islamic invasions.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Nehru Gandhi wanted muslims to stay in what is now india, that they would live peacefully, they advocated a communal secular constitution with equal rights to all its citizens irrespective of religion caste or creed

What do you mean they never said anything?

Show me a documentary evidence signed by govt of India or dominion of India saying what you said.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You have very short memories. Many Muslims believed your lies and opposed the creation of PK and today you are asking them to leave if they don't like it.

Anyone is free to migrate if they don't like the country. Applies to me too.

What lies? Show me some document.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Nehru probably didn't because he was scared Jinnah would be the PM. But based on records, Gandhi did. He was very upset and pled Jinnah and Muslims in general to be united with the rest of the country

Gandhi changed his stand post direct action day riots. Read what he said about muslims when he went to then East Bengal after the riots.

 

[ahmedzee]

Just imagine a statement from one of the Pakistani politicians "Hindus fertility rate is decreasing and they can never be a majority in sindh"

Imagine the uproar it will cause. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] would be the first one to talk about lack of human rights in Pakistan. Then [MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] would back that up.

Thankfully, Pakistani politicians are not like that (irrespective of their corruption level).

 

[Bewal Express]

Anyone is free to migrate if they don't like the country. Applies to me too.

What lies? Show me some document.

Look at your founding father's and their speeches. Are you accusing them of lying or are you lying.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Look at your founding father's and their speeches. Are you accusing them of lying or are you lying.

India doesn't have any so called founding fathers. Only Gandhi is called the father of the nation. Gandhi's speeches post direct action day clearly dont paint a rosy picture of the muslims and he very much approved the partition. He also approved of things like cow protection, building of Somnath Temple by removing the Aurangzeb built mosque etc.

Ultimately when India got its freedom it was left to the constituent assembly to decide what will be the laws of the country and it wasn't upto gandhi or nehru to decide alone what they wanted.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hindutavadis proper insecure. Someone needs to educate the 800M uneducated hindutava apologists that religion is not genetic.

Then again, dalits aren't considered the lowest class in India because of genetics. Hmmmmm

 

[wajid]

Show me a documentary evidence signed by govt of India or dominion of India saying what you said.

Why? You show me a documentary evidence signed by govt of India or dominion of India demanding that Muslims leave her or migrate to Pakistan.

Also, why was Azad your president?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why? You show me a documentary evidence signed by govt of India or dominion of India demanding that Muslims leave her or migrate to Pakistan.

Also, why was Azad your president?

Look up the Indian independence act. It creates two dominions, one for muslims of the subcontinent.

President Azad?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just imagine a statement from one of the Pakistani politicians "Hindus fertility rate is decreasing and they can never be a majority in sindh"

Imagine the uproar it will cause. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] would be the first one to talk about lack of human rights in Pakistan. Then [MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION] would back that up.

Thankfully, Pakistani politicians are not like that (irrespective of their corruption level).

It's actually quite staggering how such crass statements are ignored by some supposedly Pakistani warriors for social justice on this site. It's almost as if they think Pakistan is a bubble which isn't affected by the outside world, especially their next door neighbours of hindu persuasion.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You mean to say a Muslim from India would have better prospects in Pakistan

Lol.

Also the context is not rubbing in celebrity success stories of Muslims form India but let me make it simple for you.

Any Indian Muslim regardless of the political
Climate will never pick Pakistan over India. This has nothing to do with patriotism, religion etc.

The very fact that a poor/middle class Muslim dad or mom in India knows that their son/daughter has a shot to get out of poverty and make a great living if their son/daughter works hard,has talent and stays out of trouble while on the other hand there will be 0 Prospects for them in Pakistan.

That’s a truth you need to live with.

I don’t think eating beef for lunch or babri masjid is the most burning issue for most Muslim families over their kids futures and prospects.

Those rhetoric about ummah etc are for people who don’t have to worry about where their next meal comes from because of welfare in their country or probably because they are already affluent.

Go on a hunt and get me all the anti-india or anti-modi articles you can find of the web. Go crazy with it.

If you are a Muslim and you live in the subcontinent you have 0 prospects if you live in Pakistan,Afghanistan or to some extent even Bangladesh. That’s a cold harsh reality that hits most people in their faces but they want to look the other way.

Indian Hindus have no problem rejecting Indian passports for taking up citizenships of USA or UK dont they? Make Pakistan a viable place and trust me forget Muslims even Hindus will line up in a queue for a Pakistani visa/citizenship.

Till then nothing is going to change regardless of your pointless rants.

Ok. Firstly you don't live in India, I wonder why? Secondly you are a bhakht. Thirdly you are trying to preach Pakistan/Pakistanis about making Pakistan a viable place. How about we make our country a viable place so that intelligent people like you don't go abroad and call India a poor country? How about the following video which I am sure you and others will once again call a random incident.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Answer this honestly, how many Indian Muslims would want to move to Pakistan?

Let’s say the Pakistan government offers to give them or create a like for like replacement livelihood.

You said non-Hindus so I am assuming you mean Christians, Parsis as well.

Serious question.

Answer this honestly, how many Indian hindus want Indian muslims to get out of this country? How many Indian hindus call Indian muslims as Pakistanis?

 

[wajid]

Look up the Indian independence act. It creates two dominions, one for muslims of the subcontinent.

President Azad?

Again. Where it demands that Muslims leave India or are you having comprehension problems here?

Azad was president of congress and you guys made him your first education minister, constituent assembly member instead of pushing him into Pakistan? And he was a bearded Molvi on top of that!

 

[Zaz]

Look up the Indian independence act. It creates two dominions, one for muslims of the subcontinent.

President Azad?

Both dominions were not solely created for one religion