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FINALLY our wish has been granted, Pakistan vs India is going to happen....

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What are your predictions? who comes out the victor in this DUEL for the ages.

Prepare the battlefield!
 
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Bah gawd, PCB needs to get [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] on board. This could be Slippin' Lahori's Wrestlemania moment! :))
 
in court? how come?

- BCCI promised that if the PCB support the Big Three initiative, they will play six series against them.
- BCCI, despite not informing the PCB beforehand, are now claiming that this won't be possible because Hindu nationalists plaguing the Indian government.
- PCB is rightfully taking them to court over this blatant fraud.

This won't accomplish anything tangible but it will humiliate the BCCI further and gain the PCB some much-needed credibility and support.
 
Bah gawd, PCB needs to get [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] on board. This could be Slippin' Lahori's Wrestlemania moment! :))

His services are in need, the man has helped the bear clear his debt. Who do you predict will emerge victorious in this battle?
 
- BCCI promised that if the PCB support the Big Three initiative, they will play six series against them.
- BCCI, despite not informing the PCB beforehand, are now claiming that this won't be possible because Hindu nationalists plaguing the Indian government.
- PCB is rightfully taking them to court over this blatant fraud.

This won't accomplish anything tangible but it will humiliate the BCCI further and gain the PCB some much-needed credibility and support.

I think he knew all this but was pretending to be slow or maybe the typical parosi nuhreh before Pakistan destroy India?
 
- BCCI promised that if the PCB support the Big Three initiative, they will play six series against them.
- BCCI, despite not informing the PCB beforehand, are now claiming that this won't be possible because Hindu nationalists plaguing the Indian government.
- PCB is rightfully taking them to court over this blatant fraud.

This won't accomplish anything tangible but it will humiliate the BCCI further and gain the PCB some much-needed credibility and support.

Ofc! I completely forgot about this with all the other Ls the BCCI has been taking lately lol

The PCB could gain financially if they had a written contract with the deal in place.
 
I think he knew all this but was pretending to be slow or maybe the typical parosi nuhreh before Pakistan destroy India?

No, no. He's one of the good, sensible Indians. I'd take him over some of our "Pakistani" friends here in a heartbeat.
 
His services are in need, the man has helped the bear clear his debt. Who do you predict will emerge victorious in this battle?

Hard to say without knowing the details of the case tbh. I'm not really an expert on legal matters but I think MOUs are usually not legally binding, but let's see, they must have something up their sleeve if they've decided to take them to court.

I hope the PCB wins and sues the hell out of them. :yk
 
I don't think anything will happen.. I am not a lawyer but if there is any lawyer here who could answer the below questions it would be clear how much of a case PCB has against BCCI:

1. Where are PCB planning to sue BCCI?
2. Where ever they are planning to sue does that court has jurisdiction to fine BCCI?
3. Is MOU a legally binding document?
4. The GOI has officially refused to give permission to BCCI to play against Pakistan, doesn't that frees BCCI of any charges since GOI is above any private board?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] you seem like a lawyer mate you think PCB case got much weight in it?
 
There was no need for spoilers. We all knew it was COURT. :uakmal

It could have been in sports entertainment, combat sport, video game duel or a game bowling :yk the rivals still go toe to toe in other ways :mv but this battle is above all
 
I don't think anything will happen.. I am not a lawyer but if there is any lawyer here who could answer the below questions it would be clear how much of a case PCB has against BCCI:

1. Where are PCB planning to sue BCCI?
2. Where ever they are planning to sue does that court has jurisdiction to fine BCCI?
3. Is MOU a legally binding document?
4. The GOI has officially refused to give permission to BCCI to play against Pakistan, doesn't that frees BCCI of any charges since GOI is above any private board?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] you seem like a lawyer mate you think PCB case got much weight in it?
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] is a lawyer by profession
 
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] is a lawyer by profession



Ahh ok that's cool and judging by his name he might know about legal system of both England and Pakistan so he should be able to answer the questions.. Let's wait for his reply...
 
- BCCI promised that if the PCB support the Big Three initiative, they will play six series against them.
- BCCI, despite not informing the PCB beforehand, are now claiming that this won't be possible because Hindu nationalists plaguing the Indian government.
- PCB is rightfully taking them to court over this blatant fraud.

This won't accomplish anything tangible but it will humiliate the BCCI further and gain the PCB some much-needed credibility and support.

Can we expect some money as settlement out of this duel??
 
I don't think anything will happen.. I am not a lawyer but if there is any lawyer here who could answer the below questions it would be clear how much of a case PCB has against BCCI:

1. Where are PCB planning to sue BCCI?
2. Where ever they are planning to sue does that court has jurisdiction to fine BCCI?
3. Is MOU a legally binding document?
4. The GOI has officially refused to give permission to BCCI to play against Pakistan, doesn't that frees BCCI of any charges since GOI is above any private board?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] you seem like a lawyer mate you think PCB case got much weight in it?

There is a little legal matter called "jurisdiction". I doubt BCCI wold have been stupid enough to sign a document that gives a foreign court "jurisdiction".
 
Eager to see what comes out of this.

Very good step taken by the PCB. Humiliate BCCI as much as possible.
 
Whether they have a case or not is a different matter but the BCCI has been stringing the PCB along for a very long time now and we all know that, using the government as an excuse to get their way by not playing us.

They have bullied PCB and typically expect to get away with it, talk about being so arrogant.
 
Eager to see what comes out of this.

Very good step taken by the PCB. Humiliate BCCI as much as possible.

I understand your desire to humiliate BCCI, but in which court exactly do you want them to be sued?

There is no court with jurisdiction over BCCI in Delusion Land.
 
Clicking through the spoilers I thought it was going to be something to do with Jinder Mahal & Randy's Pakistani origin :))
 
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Don't have any interest in this.

I hope PCB has done their due diligence properly at least once for this one. Now, BCCI is in a bit tight corner with tail & neck stuck at both end (ICC & SC), but things won't remain same. Apart from market size, economy & other factors, simply from professional competence, some of the State Cricket Association under BCCI actually are smarter than PCB - these clowns need to beg twice every year to BCCI, because of their money making capacity you can see in the standard of PAK Cup. Imagine Subhhan Ahmed & Sundar Raman side by side (Both are COO for 2 boards) - Raman is now CEO of Reliance Sports, Subhan 'll need to update his resume for .... you know.

Personally, I think it's a foolish decision - instead of taking BCCI to court, I probably would have gone to Mian Sharif for a resolution at the right forum; BCCI's decision isn't taken by it's officials & Court orders (even if by some miracle PCB wins it), won't change GoI's stand. On cricket, there are no bilateral series in last 5 years, don't think it would have taken place in next 5 years either- only PCB has risked something which might spank them back in laughter.

If you ask my honest comment - the happiest person in this act is PCB's CFO; that gentleman now'll be able to fix many accounts & balance sheets. Court & defense purchase are 2 areas you don't need to justify your expenses :(
 
To me, it depends upon whether the PCB uses the eminent barristers in London that it has previously used or the clowns who are running the Sharjeel drugs process.

The BCCI has one very big point of vulnerability in this affair.

The PCB wrote a formal letter sent by registered mail to the BCCI in Autumn 2015 to schedule a series. And then wrote several more right up to the end of the designated slot for playing the series in December 2015.

The problem for the BCCI is that they did not reply stating that the government refused to authorise them to play.

They did not reply at all.

Which was an extension of how they had kept South Africa on tenterhooks for their 3 Test series in December 2014, while secretly scheduling a series in New Zealand, and then telling South Africa that the tour was shortened.

It must have seemed like normal business to the BCCI.

But the PCB can now argue in court that:

1. India failed to tell them that the tour was off at all, until after it was due to take place, and
2. India at no stage informed them that the government had denied permission to play.

The failure to reply in writing now looks very foolish indeed.
 
Yet another move by corrupt PCB officials to gulp some money PCB in name of court and lawsuit.
 
BCCI made false promises for short term political support then didnt fulfill them They would have known that BJP govt under Modi would never have given a green light to any resumption of bilateral cricketing ties with Pakistan.

PCB are fools for believing them too.

In terms of legality Pak might have a case but the lawyers who draw up these contracts often have very sneaky language in there so in pure legal terms idk what the outcome will be.
 
BCCI will not sign any contract with PCB in future, in the long run PCB will be at loss.
 
Good use the current contract is!

is there even such a thing as a legally binding contract between PCB and BCCI ?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
 
is there even such a thing as a legally binding contract between PCB and BCCI ?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

The first issue of a legally binding contract would be where it was signed, and generally I believe the courts there would have jurisdiction. Unless BCCI really really wanted a series with Pakistan, it would sign a contract in a "safe" jurisdiction for itself, like India. Of course, PCB may have wanted a different jurisdiction for the same reasons.

Secondly, any decent lawyer who prepared a contract would put in clauses that would exempt his client from liabilities due to the factors out of the client's control. Here we have BCCI being told by the Govt. of India that they can't play Pakistan, a factor that is certainly out of its control.

Finally, I am not aware of any contract between PCB and BCCI, and it seems unlikely that anything like that exists. A MOU is not necessarily a contract.
 
If not bi laterals I would love to see India vs PAk in CT but I was listening to Gavaskar and he is also in no mood to send a team.
 
If not bi laterals I would love to see India vs PAk in CT but I was listening to Gavaskar and he is also in no mood to send a team.

I think others don't quite have an appreciation how ****** off Indians are, nobody likes to be ganged up upon. Wait till you hear the State Boards at the SGM.

I think Indians should also be critical of the Supreme Court for sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.
 
I think others don't quite have an appreciation how ****** off Indians are, nobody likes to be ganged up upon. Wait till you hear the State Boards at the SGM.

I think Indians should also be critical of the Supreme Court for sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

I agree with the term limits that supreme court is putting but the court does not understand the snakes we are dealing with

Starting with the empire and bunch of neighbors who have ganged up on us. They have no clue what they are dealing with

This is a pivotal moment. British put salt tax on us and thought they would get away. Empire has not learned a sinngle lesson.
 
is there even such a thing as a legally binding contract between PCB and BCCI ?
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Depends on the clauses of the contract. AFAIK the MoU has a clause that the series will be played subject to govt clearance.So that saves that saves the BCCI.Also almost any contract will contain clauses related to factors outside the control of the parties, like war,natural calamity etc. They cover even govt regulations. The MoU is not a commercial contract as such.

There also will be jurisdictional issues.
 
[MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] is a lawyer by profession

A good lawyer would never give advice until he has the important documents to hand.

Can't advise without seeing the MOU and the clauses contained therein!
 
The first issue of a legally binding contract would be where it was signed, and generally I believe the courts there would have jurisdiction. Unless BCCI really really wanted a series with Pakistan, it would sign a contract in a "safe" jurisdiction for itself, like India. Of course, PCB may have wanted a different jurisdiction for the same reasons.

Secondly, any decent lawyer who prepared a contract would put in clauses that would exempt his client from liabilities due to the factors out of the client's control. Here we have BCCI being told by the Govt. of India that they can't play Pakistan, a factor that is certainly out of its control.

Finally, I am not aware of any contract between PCB and BCCI, and it seems unlikely that anything like that exists. A MOU is not necessarily a contract.

Depends on the clauses of the contract. AFAIK the MoU has a clause that the series will be played subject to govt clearance.So that saves that saves the BCCI.Also almost any contract will contain clauses related to factors outside the control of the parties, like war,natural calamity etc. They cover even govt regulations. The MoU is not a commercial contract as such.

There also will be jurisdictional issues.

Thanks guys. Very insightful posts.

But on the other hand how come the PCB and its Lawyers are blissfully unaware of what appears to be simple legalese ? There is probably more than that meets the eye. Lets see how this plays out.
 
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