First Test between Bangladesh [513 & 307/5] and Sri Lanka [713/9d] ends in a draw

[Savage]

I feel, posters are not doing justice here to BD team, rather trying to take credit away because of the final outcome - it's like end means the justification.

Since, BD has batted for 100+ overs on last innings to save a Test with 200 deficit, it must be a road. BUT, just about a year back on similar situation, on a better wicket Poms failed to save a Test at Mumbai & then at Chennai - I hardly read any criticism of the wicket, just because ENG failed to save the Test, against Jadeja and an off color Ashwin. Here, boys have saved a Test facing 200 deficit against 3 spinners - Herath, Dilruhan & Sandakan ..... still I see more criticism for the wicket rather than the praise for the batsmen; which I don't think fair.

i doubt pitches were more flatter than those where Kohli scored multiple double hundreds against SL and Bangladesh.In 2017,Those Double hundreds got more hype in India than any other performance like Kuldeep 4-wickets vs Aus in series decider or Pujara 2 series deciding knock vs Australia.If a player like kohli gets praise so over-the-top for his knocks on flat tracks then we must also acknowledge the batting effort by BAN on 5th day of the test.

 

[MMHS]

Regarding the CTG wicket, I actually realize that most posters have a misconception about wicket & cricket development. I can read the thought process - play on under prepared wicket, which produces result by default and that's progress out of minnows. Actually, this isn't the case at all in true sense unfortunately. BECAUSE, the game (Test) is about getting 20 batsmen out through aggressive, wicket taking bowling - and, that can only happen if bowlers can develop enough quality. Similarly, batting is not about occupying crease only - rather it's about dominating an attack in sessions ..... though popular modern analysis tells that it's all about SR & kick boxer's attitude. The CTG wicket shouldn't be a testimony of surviving attitude - we have beaten ENG & AUS on turners, SRL in SRL .... on an absolute turner, we can win (or lose) against SRL, but that'll only hide the big elephant in the room - our bowling is in absolute shambles - it's not exposed to full extent, in games bounded by overs.

I read lots of "giant" mentality that, playing on such wickets won't take us out of minnow level, which actually indicates lack of understanding the game. For this CTG Test, the ONLY bitter truth for me is that batsmen put 374 in Day 1 and 513 in 4.5 sessions - still we had to play out of skin in Day 5 to save the Test against this SRL, because of the quality of bowling without one man. This reality check won't ever had been exposed had we played on a wicket that starts turning on 1st morning and we took 20 wickets in 3 days - whoever W/L doesn't matter, but that would have shown "giant" mentality .... as if. Now, weather people in charge of running BD cricket understands this or not, I don't care; but being a humble student of the game, what little I understand is that this game is much more complex than what it apparently looks.

I am someone who bashes PAK domestic wicket (s) left, right & centre though almost every FC game ends in direct result there inside 300 overs, sometimes even 200. Because, that doesn't serve the purpose what this game is played for - why, I have explained many times, won't reiterate here. The game is built on batting perfection & bowling penetration - playing on under prepared wicket doesn't help either cause. I actually wish every BD Test & FC wickets are similar true batting wickets (NOTE: I am talking about true batting wicket, not dead UAE tracks), where, to win a FC/Test game, it'll take bowling "efforts" to get 20 wickets, but it'll take sessions long batting domination and capability/concentration/perfection to put 150+ innings as well - only that day, the real progression will come. We have to play on wickets, on which batsmen can back on their technique to bat for sessions (& dominate the bowling) & bowlers to develop that extra bit to get better of a defensive batsmen. This was AUS cricket, this was WI cricket and that's why they were the best 2 nations ever - not because they showed positive attitude of non-minnow mentality by playing on under prepared wickets. And, this is EXACTLY what I have written many times on PAK domestic cricket - those FC games are not serving it's primary purpose.

Our next target has to be to find/develop bowlers who don't put team on a hopeless situation defending 513 - not bowlers, who can dart (or cut) on monotonous spot and expect that wicket will do the rest for them - Anil Kumble didn't win one Test for IND for 15 years outside home; our lot won't in 150 years, if we keep on playing/winning on such Dhaka tracks. The development has to come through phase by phase progression - unless we start it methodically, things won't improve in proper manner. Otherwise, we'll always be dependent on one Shakib or a mystery bowler to get us surprise wins, on conditions that favors the team. I am happy that, our batsmen did cross the 1st hurdle at CTG - didn't collapse on a good wicket, when they were supposed to do so by most. And, I can tell that, against these SRL spin trio, not many modern teams would do so.

 

[Executioner]

No offense but thats a minnow mentality. This was the chance for BD to prove themselves that they can also compete against Asian sides on spinning pitch. They lack self confidence...


BD fans shouldn’t cry when other teams dont take you guys seriously, and doesn’t get invite to tour top nations.

We beat Lanka in Lanka on a spinning wicket.

 

[Kashmirilion]

Regarding the CTG wicket, I actually realize that most posters have a misconception about wicket & cricket development. I can read the thought process - play on under prepared wicket, which produces result by default and that's progress out of minnows. Actually, this isn't the case at all in true sense unfortunately. BECAUSE, the game (Test) is about getting 20 batsmen out through aggressive, wicket taking bowling - and, that can only happen if bowlers can develop enough quality. Similarly, batting is not about occupying crease only - rather it's about dominating an attack in sessions ..... though popular modern analysis tells that it's all about SR & kick boxer's attitude. The CTG wicket shouldn't be a testimony of surviving attitude - we have beaten ENG & AUS on turners, SRL in SRL .... on an absolute turner, we can win (or lose) against SRL, but that'll only hide the big elephant in the room - our bowling is in absolute shambles - it's not exposed to full extent, in games bounded by overs.

I read lots of "giant" mentality that, playing on such wickets won't take us out of minnow level, which actually indicates lack of understanding the game. For this CTG Test, the ONLY bitter truth for me is that batsmen put 374 in Day 1 and 513 in 4.5 sessions - still we had to play out of skin in Day 5 to save the Test against this SRL, because of the quality of bowling without one man. This reality check won't ever had been exposed had we played on a wicket that starts turning on 1st morning and we took 20 wickets in 3 days - whoever W/L doesn't matter, but that would have shown "giant" mentality .... as if. Now, weather people in charge of running BD cricket understands this or not, I don't care; but being a humble student of the game, what little I understand is that this game is much more complex than what it apparently looks.

I am someone who bashes PAK domestic wicket (s) left, right & centre though almost every FC game ends in direct result there inside 300 overs, sometimes even 200. Because, that doesn't serve the purpose what this game is played for - why, I have explained many times, won't reiterate here. The game is built on batting perfection & bowling penetration - playing on under prepared wicket doesn't help either cause. I actually wish every BD Test & FC wickets are similar true batting wickets (NOTE: I am talking about true batting wicket, not dead UAE tracks), where, to win a FC/Test game, it'll take bowling "efforts" to get 20 wickets, but it'll take sessions long batting domination and capability/concentration/perfection to put 150+ innings as well - only that day, the real progression will come. We have to play on wickets, on which batsmen can back on their technique to bat for sessions (& dominate the bowling) & bowlers to develop that extra bit to get better of a defensive batsmen. This was AUS cricket, this was WI cricket and that's why they were the best 2 nations ever - not because they showed positive attitude of non-minnow mentality by playing on under prepared wickets. And, this is EXACTLY what I have written many times on PAK domestic cricket - those FC games are not serving it's primary purpose.

Our next target has to be to find/develop bowlers who don't put team on a hopeless situation defending 513 - not bowlers, who can dart (or cut) on monotonous spot and expect that wicket will do the rest for them - Anil Kumble didn't win one Test for IND for 15 years outside home; our lot won't in 150 years, if we keep on playing/winning on such Dhaka tracks. The development has to come through phase by phase progression - unless we start it methodically, things won't improve in proper manner. Otherwise, we'll always be dependent on one Shakib or a mystery bowler to get us surprise wins, on conditions that favors the team. I am happy that, our batsmen did cross the 1st hurdle at CTG - didn't collapse on a good wicket, when they were supposed to do so by most. And, I can tell that, against these SRL spin trio, not many modern teams would do so.

Well said brilliant post. POTW

 

[big_gamer007]

And then people wonder why today’s generation don’t give two hoots about test cricket..

When real pitches are prepared like in SA fans go too soft that it’s dangerous.. Only thing dangerous today is lack of technique of modern batsmen.

 

[Mainul]

Come on guys - give boys due credit. They saved a Test batting for last 4 sessions after fielding for 2.5 days. Belter or road, it takes lots of character to save a game, when you have no chance to win it - and they did it in style. For first 250 runs, scoring rate was highest in the game after Day 1.

Yes.People are not giving due credit to Bangladesh.It needs character even on a batting paradise to save test after 3 down on day 5.

 

[RainMan_]

And then people wonder why today’s generation don’t give two hoots about test cricket..

When real pitches are prepared like in SA fans go too soft that it’s dangerous.. Only thing dangerous today is lack of technique of modern batsmen.

Absolutely wrong. The last pitch where India played against saffers was extremely dangerous for the players. U might wanna overlook it because India won that test. But that doesn't change the fact that that pitch wasn't suitable for test cricket.

 

[big_gamer007]

Absolutely wrong. The last pitch where India played against saffers was extremely dangerous for the players. U might wanna overlook it because India won that test. But that doesn't change the fact that that pitch wasn't suitable for test cricket.

Nope I watched the match ball to ball not on Cricinfo the pitch was not extremely dangerous as you say.. It was extremely difficult but even if India lost I would have said the pitch was not extremely dangerous..