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For the love of God, please don’t play Mohammad Rizwan in the New Zealand T20I series

Came across an interesting stat today that sums up Pakistan's dispensation re: wicketkeepers in T20Is.

Tim Seifert now has more T20I fifties (5) than all Pakistani keepers have scored in the last nine years (Sarfraz 3, Ukmal 1).

And Seifert debuted two years ago.
 
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Chalo I Guess KK made a massive blunder by not playing Rizwan as its keeper....they missed out on his expert keeping technique and wisdom behind the stumps....
 
I was looking at this year U19 batting stats for List A tournament. All of the WK batsman had tail ender like stats. It shows outdated and rotten mindset in the PCB, they are still trying to find the next Wasim Bari or Rashid Latif when the world is looking for next Dhoni and Gilchrist

No wonder Rizwan is the best option right now. It must be the same for the batsmen, hence they are crap against fast bowling.

Misbah or no Misbah it will make no difference
 
Rashid Latif has said that QDK is the best keeper in the world, I have seen some his outrageous catches so i agree Rashid on this and Rizwan isn’t better than De Qock.
 
what amazes me most is how failure of entire unit seems to be fault of one player. Yes Rizwan is no QDK or Dhoni but is sarfaraz.
We are without regular opener no harm in playing him as opener. and even then people simply ignore the fact that he was second highest run scorer.
 
The series is lost and the Rizwan experiment didn't work, please move on. For the third t20, give Rizwan a rest (keep him fresh for the test series), give Khushdil the gloves and open with Zeeshan Malik.
 
Markhor said:
This decision to open with Rizwan has cost us the series. A simple Google search tells you what his SR is in T20Is.

Yes Babar was injured which sucked. But you've got Mohammed Hafeez there with plenty of opening experience. We didn't need a makeshift opener.

Clearly no homework goes into our planning and strategy making.
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I dont belive hafeez should open or at 3 he should play 4 were he playing currently
 
shamaan said:
I dont belive hafeez should open or at 3 he should play 4 were he playing currently
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I'm not saying Hafeez should open permanently, but it would made more sense to use him as a temporary solution in this series vs NZL than Mohammad Rizwan with his mighty SR of 96 in T20Is.

In Babar's absence, Hafeez is the best batsman in the lineup so he should be given the opportunity of facing the most number of balls. And Abdullah would've had an experienced batting partner to talk to.
 
DandyFellow said:
Stop becoming a troller. We should criticise or discuss what somebody had done right or wrong but talking lies is a proof of a troller.
When Haris Rauf caught the edge of Williamson it went straight to first slip but Shadab had put Khushdil at second slip which was much wider. The reason Haris Rauf was angry was due to bad positioning of Khushdil because at the end the ball was much closer to Khushdil than Rizwan. A very high quality slip fielder like Stokes might have dived for it but it would have required some flamboyance. So please please stop trolling. It is a request because some people do not watch matches but they read pakpassion and get misinformed.
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Once a slip fielder goes wider then the keeper should defonitely go for it as it was proberly a miss judgment in rizwans case
 
Rizwan’s spot in the T20 squad could be the difference between losing and winning a game.

Zeeshan Ashraf at 6-7 can give a quick fire 30, Rizwan can’t. How can Misbah not see it? Does he see something that 99% of the fans don’t?
 
Rana said:
Chalo I Guess KK made a massive blunder by not playing Rizwan as its keeper....they missed out on his expert keeping technique and wisdom behind the stumps....
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:ssmith
Hes a very good keeper but doesnt warrant a place in the team
In t20s hes below average
 
Markhor said:
I'm not saying Hafeez should open permanently, but it would made more sense to use him as a temporary solution in this series vs NZL than Mohammad Rizwan with his mighty SR of 96 in T20Is.

In Babar's absence, Hafeez is the best batsman in the lineup so he should be given the opportunity of facing the most number of balls. And Abdullah would've had an experienced batting partner to talk to.
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i think they are protecting hafeez imagine if hafeez failed in the t20s as a opener knvies woukd be coming out and misbah would have got blasted.he opened with abdullah and haider he will now state i gave them a chance and people will be more understanding.personally i would play hafeez at 4.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Rizwan’s spot in the T20 squad could be the difference between losing and winning a game.

Zeeshan Ashraf at 6-7 can give a quick fire 30, Rizwan can’t. How can Misbah not see it? Does he see something that 99% of the fans don’t?
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he said fitness same with sharjeel and azam
 
Rizwan should concentrate on tests thats his format were he can excel and maybe can be pakistan best test keeper batsman
 
YousafTheBeast said:
If it’s fitness then how did Sohail Khan get on the tour lol? The guy could only bowl 1 spell in a test.
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But hes not garrented starter hes thier for practise for the batsman.i do belive everyone needs to have a fitnes test the likes of haris sohail and maybe imad wasim will proberly fail tests along with the three names we mentioned.should be 1 rule not 2
 
Rana said:
For us...it just has to be better than Sarfaraz. The bare minimum will do bro...
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Safraz is better than rizwan in my opinion.zeeshan Ashraf is upgrade from the two.some names zeeshan ashraf rohail nazir muhammed haris
 
TeamPak95 said:
The series is lost and the Rizwan experiment didn't work, please move on. For the third t20, give Rizwan a rest (keep him fresh for the test series), give Khushdil the gloves and open with Zeeshan Malik.
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How good is he as a keeper zeeshan isnt with the squad
 
With the test series coming up Rizwan should definitely be rested especially since he is going to captain. They could open with Sarfaraz or if they don't want Sarfaraz back then just put the gloves on Khushdil. Khushdil is a part time WK from what I heard.
 
shamaan said:
How good is he as a keeper zeeshan isnt with the squad
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Just checked, I assumed Zeeshan Malik was in the squad. If that's the case, then I'd say replace Rizwan with Talat, give him a game (although it's probably gonna be Iftikhar) and give Khushdil the gloves. Now how good Khushdil is with the gloves idk but at the very least Rizwan shouldn't be opening.
 
El Generico said:
Azam khan needs to have a good PSL and then he would likely be in contention for a spot. It is too early as of now.
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100 percent needs to have a good psl but he also needs to keep in the psl to make his case stronger
 
TeamPak95 said:
Just checked, I assumed Zeeshan Malik was in the squad. If that's the case, then I'd say replace Rizwan with Talat, give him a game (although it's probably gonna be Iftikhar) and give Khushdil the gloves. Now how good Khushdil is with the gloves idk but at the very least Rizwan shouldn't be opening.
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Rizwan shouldnt be in the squad in t20s
 
World’s best keeper they say

What exactly was that attempt in the last over?????
 
Haven't seen a worse T20/ODI batter in a LONG time.

The way he dances on the pitch, leaves even Younis Khan behind with his dancing and hopping vs. pacers.

Awful to watch.
 
He might not have the power game but I'm loving his game awareness. He's targetting the gaps in the field and also stopped the ball from hitting the stumps with his feet! We need more cricketers that can think
 
Looks like he’s cemented his position for when Babar returns. Be prepared for Pakistan playing 2 anchors as openers in T20s, or even worse, for Babar to take the aggressor role.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Useless, playing for his place in the team. Sick attitude.
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His selfish innings is still more useful than the selfless single digit scores by others.

Rizwan is one of the very, very, very few quality cricketers in Pakistan and our fans have a problem with him because he cannot bat like Buttler or Bairstow.
 
Rizwan haters deserve this humiliation. He is an excellent cricketer for our pathetic standards.
 
Mamoon said:
Rizwan haters deserve this humiliation. He is an excellent cricketer for our pathetic standards.
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Not really.

He's woeful in LOIs, more so in T20s.

One fluke doesn't mean he's good. Should've watched how he started. A complete clown hopping and jumping on the crease, relying on flukey shots.
 
Hawkeye said:
Not really.

He's woeful in LOIs, more so in T20s.

One fluke doesn't mean he's good. Should've watched how he started. A complete clown hopping and jumping on the crease, relying on flukey shots.
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He is no Buttler, Bairstow, de Kock or Pant, but we don’t have anyone better than him at the moment. We shouldn’t forget we are a near minnow level side.
 
LOL. So much for the stats brigade.

Rizwan has already played a better innings than Sarfraz has in his entire T20I career.
 
Hawkeye said:
Not really.

He's woeful in LOIs, more so in T20s.

One fluke doesn't mean he's good. Should've watched how he started. A complete clown hopping and jumping on the crease, relying on flukey shots.
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Just admit he proved your wrong. Also flukey shots? All his sixes were middle of the bat.
 
Lol the series has already gone so put the mithai back in the cupboard. We needed this in the first two matches.
 
What a tragic day for Pakistan.

This guy has solidified his spot for the next 10 years based on a dead rubber performance.
 
Certain posters have really big egos. Just won't admit they have been proven wrong on Rizwan.
 
Impressed with his running between the wickets. He's really quick
 
Riz played really well today but I am not convinced he will help to win many T20 games. TBH he isnt much of ODI player either but he is amongst the best Test WK/Bats in the World
 
Rana said:
What a tragic day for Pakistan.

This guy has solidified his spot for the next 10 years based on a dead rubber performance.
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Even if azam Khan was son of gilchirst and not moin he still can't play this knock against Boult, southee and Jamieson
 
Always on planet heroland. Asking is below run a ball and you have to play percentage cricket
 
Xoib said:
Even if azam Khan was son of gilchirst and not moin he still can't play this knock against Boult, southee and Jamieson
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You guys are making it sound like Jamieson is some reincarnation of Glen McGrath. He's just an OK bowler
 
Rana said:
Proven wrong? Has he just won us the T20 wc with this performance?
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Playing this kind of a knock against a top-quality bowling attack deserves alot of praise. Instead of acting like a child you should be happy that he's performing well. And the confidence will hopefully translate to more such innings.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
LOL what a strange question. Has he played in the World T20?
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Your making a big deal out of a dead rubber performance just like those 2 hundreds he scored against Australia, meaningless runs.

By this same logic, Faheem Ashraf has proven all of PP wrong with his bowling and Harris Rauf is the actual goat of this team with his random performances.
 
Rana said:
You guys are making it sound like Jamieson is some reincarnation of Glen McGrath. He's just an OK bowler
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That does not change the fact azam or any psl tulla will replicate this knock at the highest level we have seen the output of psl shazady in this series.
 
Xoib said:
That does not change the fact azam or any psl tulla will replicate this knock at the highest level we have seen the output of psl shazady in this series.
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Let Azam play first and then we can compare
 
Lord Rizwan.

Sad news is that he won't be kicked out of T20s now because of this fluke, dead-rubber knock.

And like his typical dismissals, got out playing across the line JUST NOW!! At the most sensitive moment of the match.

Can easily lose from here.
 
Rana said:
You guys are making it sound like Jamieson is some reincarnation of Glen McGrath. He's just an OK bowler
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Yes Jamieson is ok. Southee is ok. Boult is ok. It's patently obvious that you were proven wrong and now you are doing mental gymnastics to downplay Rizwan's outstanding match-winning knock.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Yes Jamieson is ok. Southee is ok. Boult is ok. It's patently obvious that you were proven wrong and now you are doing mental gymnastics to downplay Rizwan's outstanding match-winning knock.
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Alright bud. ill concede for the day. Although it is a tragic one for what is to follow in the next 4-5 years.
 
Rana said:
Your making a big deal out of a dead rubber performance just like those 2 hundreds he scored against Australia, meaningless runs.

By this same logic, Faheem Ashraf has proven all of PP wrong with his bowling and Harris Rauf is the actual goat of this team with his random performances.
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Lol you clearly have some kind of an agenda against Rizwan.

The guy is super-talented with the bat and the gloves. T20 was the one format where he wasn't able make it so far but now he has shown he can hang in this format too. That is the significance of this innings, not that it came in a dead rubber. Talent-wise he is the best keeper Pakistan has produced since Moin, Rashid and also the first genuinely world-class keeper since them. And for anyone to deny that is simply wrong.
 
The usual clowns out here to derail the thread. Top quality knock today, should have finished it off though. Not entirely convinced about his spot in T20s yet, but this knock has gone a long way in allaying some of those concerns. Interesting to see where he bats once Babar returns, especially if Fakhar is recalled as well.
 
Lots of credit to Rizwan. He has worked hard on his power game, which means he’s growing in utility in limited overs. However, note that it was 50(40) and then had to compensate for that - won’t always get the opportunity to do so.

It will be important for him to show some of those same shots (which were good) in his first 10 balls as well as on bigger grounds for me to fully believe in him in T20Is.

Based off of this knock, though, I no longer have a question mark on him for ODIs. He still doesn’t make the first T20 XI for me personally, with Babar returning - where in the order would he play? More than one anchor is self-destruction in T20Is.
 
People wanted him out because..

1. He will lose us the T20 series

2. Did we lose the T20 series because of him? Yes, big part played by him.

3. Did he play good in the dead-rubber last T20? Yes.

4. Should he be selected in T20s again? No. One innings doesn't mean he's good at T2s. He's really bad at them. Will continue to lose us matches.


That's basically the summary.

You cannot chest-thump because he played well -today-. Batsmen aren't decided on one innings.

Look at his batting. Timing. Ability. All-around stroke-play. He doesn't have it, in particular for T20s.

If he continues to get picked because of today, that will only mean bad things for Pakistan.
 
Rizwan still needs to start off better. His first 30 runs shouldn't be coming at a SR of 112. Granted he will have a hitter on the other end for sure. I do agree that his latter part of the innings was surreal and he kept his composure which has always been a component missing in our batsmen. We don't really chase big totals >160 and this one is to savor. I was 95% we would botch this chase and a couple of times it became all too familiar. Credit to Rizwan for keeping it steady till 3 balls left and for Ifti to finish it off. Hopefully we can become better at chasing with this performance in mind and Babar coming back.
 
The great thing about Rizwan's innings is what it says about him. This is not his natural game. But he's been given a job and he's gone out of his comfort zone and done it
 
You want to move on from Rizwan? Fine, but then pick someone who is better. Don’t name goalkeepers.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
The great thing about Rizwan's innings is what it says about him. This is not his natural game. But he's been given a job and he's gone out of his comfort zone and done it
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He has also improved he power game to an extent. He knew his power game required improvements and mentioned in Nat T20 that he was working on that.
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
The great thing about Rizwan's innings is what it says about him. This is not his natural game. But he's been given a job and he's gone out of his comfort zone and done it
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The ease with which he hit sixes and pretty big ones too seems to me like it is his natural game
 
Hope this ends the Sarfraz Saga for good. Please retire gracefully bhaijaan
 
Mamoon said:
Rizwan haters deserve this humiliation. He is an excellent cricketer for our pathetic standards.
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you have some problem in your mind really you like rizwan because every one else like dont like it

your problem is that you just want to opposite side of the peoples
 
Mean&Green said:
The ease with which he hit sixes and pretty big ones too seems to me like it is his natural game
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Yes but how many times have we seen him hit sixes like these? I was honestly shocked when I saw the first one because it was a rare sight for a player like him.
 
Mamoon said:
You want to move on from Rizwan? Fine, but then pick someone who is better. Don’t name goalkeepers.
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Talking about goal keepers, goal posts...

You were only backing him in this side because he is the best keeper in the world. He scores runs today so now you want to do a little bhangra of your own?
 
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