Foreigners who support Premier League teams

[KingKhanWC]

If you live in India, support Chennai FC or Kerala Blasters or whatever your local team is not Man Utd or Aston Villa.

If you live in the US, LA Galaxy etc..

Same goes for any other country.


Sure you can watch the PL because it is the best league on the planet but don't call yourself a supporter if you will never be in the stands.

 

[Heisenberg]

It is not the best league on the planet and no. Thanks for letting us know what to do though.

 

[TM Riddle]

Who are Pakistanis supposed to support?
Bahawalpur Chinkaras?

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol if you aren't up for globalisation please go back to Pakistan mate.. You have no idea about the revenue clubs make from supporters not living in Manchester.. It's because of supporters like us Manchester United is one of the richest clubs in the world..

The irony of this thread is it's coming from an expat who doesn't even live in his own country loool

 

[big_gamer007]

It is not the best league on the planet and no. Thanks for letting us know what to do though.

Who are Pakistanis supposed to support?
Bahawalpur Chinkaras?

Look at the irony an expat whose parents or he himself migrated to UK is now starting a thread like this.. It's as ironic as Muslims supporting Trump loool

 

[Heisenberg]

Look at the irony an expat whose parents or he himself migrated to UK is now starting a thread like this.. It's as ironic as Muslims supporting Trump loool

Been a lurker for a few years. His views on a lot of things make me laugh. Good lad I'm sure

 

[big_gamer007]

Been a lurker for a few years. His views on a lot of things make me laugh. Good lad I'm sure

Probably young kid who doesn't know without the global support Manchester United would just be like wolves or derby county.. Manchester United is Manchester United is one of the richest clubs in the world because of he global support it receives..

He'all grow up and learn soon..

 

[TM Riddle]

Mate as Liverpool supporters we should welcome all the support can get considering our performance in last few years barring this one.

 

[WC-Passion]

That's unfair, some fans in other countries are more dedicated and should support any team they want. Stupid thread, not sure what the OP is thinking. Brand exposure worldwide is a big thing for PL teams and without it no one but people from the UK would care. PL isn't even the best league anyway, the top teams tend to get embarrassed in the UCL and other leagues deserve 4 spots more like Serie A.

 

[TahirFan]

There was a time when millions of South Africans supported Leeds United when Lucas Radabe was the captain of Leeds United and our national team.

When Leeds United got demoted to the Championship league, those South African supporters who supported Leeds United switched their support mainly to Manchester United

Lucas Radebe is a household name in South Africa – having earned 70 international caps for South Africa – 44 of which were as captain.

He is considered one of the best central defenders ever produced by South Africa, and was a cult hero for English Premier League side, Leeds United.

Leeds’ Rock of Gibraltar, who in December 2000 was honoured with the Fifa Fair Play award, will always be remembered in the annals of foot*ball history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Mate as Liverpool supporters we should welcome all the support can get considering our performance in last few years barring this one.

This is the key word 'supporters'.. These are people who will spend money to watch their team at the stadium. There is a difference between a 'supporter' and a 'fan'. Nothing wrong with being a fan of any team or sportsman but people shouldn't claim they are supporters for this reason.

I think it's important to support your local club as this will improve football worldwide. If you invest in your club then perhaps one day they will become a great club which will be renowned worldwide. I see India has the ISL, there has been a lot of investment and it's nice to see the crowds there. Those fans should make it their no.1 club and just be fans of foreign teams.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Look at the irony an expat whose parents or he himself migrated to UK is now starting a thread like this.. It's as ironic as Muslims supporting Trump loool

I never migrated anywhere. My parents did and I visit my teams ground. When did you last go to Old Trafford?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Been a lurker for a few years. His views on a lot of things make me laugh. Good lad I'm sure -

I'm happy you read my views but I have yet to read any of yours , so cant comment.

 

[Markhor]

I have no problem with international supporters, the responses whenever I see Liverpool go abroad for pre-season friendlies in places like Indonesia, Australia and Thailand are amazing.

What I do have a problem with are those fans, Scouser or non-Scouser, turning up to Anfield - chatting throughout YNWA, taking selfies during the match, bringing out selfie sticks and not contributing to the atmosphere at all.

 

[big_gamer007]

This is the key word 'supporters'.. These are people who will spend money to watch their team at the stadium. There is a difference between a 'supporter' and a 'fan'. Nothing wrong with being a fan of any team or sportsman but people shouldn't claim they are supporters for this reason.

I think it's important to support your local club as this will improve football worldwide. If you invest in your club then perhaps one day they will become a great club which will be renowned worldwide. I see India has the ISL, there has been a lot of investment and it's nice to see the crowds there. Those fans should make it their no.1 club and just be fans of foreign teams.

Again you have no clue what you are talking.. It's not just about watching matches in the stadium, stadium income a club like Real, United, Arsenal etc generate are just part of their actual revenue..

Why do you think Nike/Addidas/Puma/Reebok etc pay millions of dollars for jersey rights to clubs?? If they give millions of $$ for jersey rights means they make sales worth millions of $$ who buys those jerseys? Just the people who watch match in stadium? NO

Why do you think a company like Chevrolet got the main sponsorship? Do you know Chevrolet had a car model in India which has Manchester United logo and theme? People have actually bought a pound 10,000 car which indirectly contributes to Manchester United revenue..

Whbe the clubs itself have accepted supporters group from across the world as their "official supporters" who are you to tell who should be considered a supporter?

And if your point is to be taken then in that case clubs should just play their local players and not any player from any other place why do clubs play the best players from across the world?

And why do you think we don't support ISL? ISL is still new and over the next 10-15 years it will grow..

I can personally say I know people who know much more about Manchester United than the so called supporters who visit the stadium and have spent much much much more money on merchandise than you can even imagine.. So how are they any less supporters than any other supporter?

The club needs supporters more than the supporters need the club remember that so you need to evolve your mind about what globalisation means and how economy works.. The sooner you realise the better for you mate..

 

[big_gamer007]

I never migrated anywhere. My parents did and I visit my teams ground. When did you last go to Old Trafford?

I have spent more money on United merchandise than you have on whichever club you support I can safely say that.. So you are a lesser supporter than me of whatever club you support my friend..

 

[Heisenberg]

Mate as Liverpool supporters we should welcome all the support can get considering our performance in last few years barring this one.

Fellow Liverpool fan. Hi

 

[Heisenberg]

Again you have no clue what you are talking.. It's not just about watching matches in the stadium, stadium income a club like Real, United, Arsenal etc generate are just part of their actual revenue..

Why do you think Nike/Addidas/Puma/Reebok etc pay millions of dollars for jersey rights to clubs?? If they give millions of $$ for jersey rights means they make sales worth millions of $$ who buys those jerseys? Just the people who watch match in stadium? NO

Why do you think a company like Chevrolet got the main sponsorship? Do you know Chevrolet had a car model in India which has Manchester United logo and theme? People have actually bought a pound 10,000 car which indirectly contributes to Manchester United revenue..

Whbe the clubs itself have accepted supporters group from across the world as their "official supporters" who are you to tell who should be considered a supporter?

And if your point is to be taken then in that case clubs should just play their local players and not any player from any other place why do clubs play the best players from across the world?

And why do you think we don't support ISL? ISL is still new and over the next 10-15 years it will grow..

I can personally say I know people who know much more about Manchester United than the so called supporters who visit the stadium and have spent much much much more money on merchandise than you can even imagine.. So how are they any less supporters than any other supporter?

The club needs supporters more than the supporters need the club remember that so you need to evolve your mind about what globalisation means and how economy works.. The sooner you realise the better for you mate..

What's that record tv deal they just signed. Who pays for that? I bet that makes as much if not more than gate receipts.

 

[TM Riddle]

Fellow Liverpool fan. Hi

Salaam

 

[KingKhanWC]

Again you have no clue what you are talking.. It's not just about watching matches in the stadium, stadium income a club like Real, United, Arsenal etc generate are just part of their actual revenue..

Why do you think Nike/Addidas/Puma/Reebok etc pay millions of dollars for jersey rights to clubs?? If they give millions of $$ for jersey rights means they make sales worth millions of $$ who buys those jerseys? Just the people who watch match in stadium? NO

Why do you think a company like Chevrolet got the main sponsorship? Do you know Chevrolet had a car model in India which has Manchester United logo and theme? People have actually bought a pound 10,000 car which indirectly contributes to Manchester United revenue..

Whbe the clubs itself have accepted supporters group from across the world as their "official supporters" who are you to tell who should be considered a supporter?

And if your point is to be taken then in that case clubs should just play their local players and not any player from any other place why do clubs play the best players from across the world?

And why do you think we don't support ISL? ISL is still new and over the next 10-15 years it will grow..

I can personally say I know people who know much more about Manchester United than the so called supporters who visit the stadium and have spent much much much more money on merchandise than you can even imagine.. So how are they any less supporters than any other supporter?

The club needs supporters more than the supporters need the club remember that so you need to evolve your mind about what globalisation means and how economy works.. The sooner you realise the better for you mate..

This is marketing for fans, most who have never set foot in the stadium. Real supporters are those who actually attend the matches. Most of these fans don't even know where Manchester or Liverpool is.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have spent more money on United merchandise than you have on whichever club you support I can safely say that.. So you are a lesser supporter than me of whatever club you support my friend..

Sure you have.

I go to Anfield, you watch on T.V.

 

[big_gamer007]

This is marketing for fans, most who have never set foot in the stadium. Real supporters are those who actually attend the matches. Most of these fans don't even know where Manchester or Liverpool is.

It's fine believe what you want the club itself considers us as supporters you can choose not to.. Hardly makes a difference..

That's my limit reached for online debating mate can't be bothered more so let's agree to disagree..

 

[KingKhanWC]

What's that record tv deal they just signed. Who pays for that? I bet that makes as much if not more than gate receipts.

The TV companies pay for this. As I said the PL is the best league in the world and there is no harm distributing this product around the world. It's nice people there are fans around the world but they aren't real supporters and never will be unless they attend the matches.

 

[big_gamer007]

Sure you have.

I go to Anfield, you watch on T.V.

Actually haven't been watching on TV also for last few years no time anymore just watch big matches if I get time.. But that's fine like I said in the other post you can chose to believe what you want..

 

[Heisenberg]

This is marketing for fans, most who have never set foot in the stadium. Real supporters are those who actually attend the matches. Most of these fans don't even know where Manchester or Liverpool is.

Do you make such gross generalisations about everything? What makes you think they don't know where Liverpool or Manchester is? Bad trolling

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Would you say the same to 2nd or 3rd generation Canadian or American Pakistanis who support Pakistan in cricket? Since they have never seen Pak play in the stadia and neither they have any affiliation with them having born in West?

 

[Heisenberg]

The TV companies pay for this. As I said the PL is the best league in the world and there is no harm distributing this product around the world. It's nice people there are fans around the world but they aren't real supporters and never will be unless they attend the matches.

TV companies do it for charity I suppose.

Please clarify what you mean by best league in the world?

And what authority do you have to tell people if they are genuine or not?

 

[big_gamer007]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Would you say the same to 2nd or 3rd generation Canadian or American Pakistanis who support Pakistan in cricket? Since they have never seen Pak play in the stadia and neither they have any affiliation with them having born in West?

Do you make such gross generalisations about everything? What makes you think they don't know where Liverpool or Manchester is? Bad trolling

The TV companies pay for this. As I said the PL is the best league in the world and there is no harm distributing this product around the world. It's nice people there are fans around the world but they aren't real supporters and never will be unless they attend the matches.

You know tomorrow someone will come and say I stabbed or beat up Liverpool supporter, I am the real supporter of Manchester United not the ones who just go to stadium and watch matches.. Pointless trying to go into such debates they are never ending..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Excellent thread. These so called supporters are just glory hunters who want to feel that they belong to the civilized western world. begani shadi mein abdullah diwana.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Would you say the same to 2nd or 3rd generation Canadian or American Pakistanis who support Pakistan in cricket? Since they have never seen Pak play in the stadia and neither they have any affiliation with them having born in West?

No they are following their heritage and most travel back to their homeland and many have attended matches.

 

[TM Riddle]

No they are following their heritage and most travel back to their homeland and many have attended matches.

But many don't.There are many on this forum itself who have probably never seen a cricket match live in stadium, what about them?
Oh so it's about heritage.What association do you have culturally with Liverpool? You are no white afaik.
And don't bring the I was born here argument.It doesn't count.Culturally you will always be an alien.There's a reason why British Pakistani has Pakistani in it and not simply British.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I don't recall which city it was..probably Bangalore, where I happened to see a manchester united bar and restaurant.. the guys sitting inside were wearing manchester jerseys over their tummies and were glued to the t screen. Felt like puking. Those wannabe delusionals probably do this to feel they are sitting somewhere in UK and want to forget that they are in india. I know these types.. they are often looking at their phones and have headphones on to escape from the sight and sounds of their surrounding in india and feel teleported to some advanced western country. These bangalorean losers were even found celebrating la tomatina.. the tomato festival. Wish I could slap each one of them personally, for wasting crops when there are people starving.

 

[KingKhanWC]

But many don't.There are many on this forum itself who have probably never seen a cricket match live in stadium, what about them?
Oh so it's about heritage.What association do you have culturally with Liverpool? You are no white afaik.
And don't bring the I was born here argument.It doesn't count.Culturally you will always be an alien.There's a reason why British Pakistani has Pakistani in it and not simply British.

I didn't say it was only about heritage. I said heritage can play a part in you being a genuine supporter.

You don't have to be white to be a Liverpool supporter

Im British, I have been to Anfield since a child and will continue to do so. Someone in Delhi can't say the same.

 

[TM Riddle]

I didn't say it was only about heritage. I said heritage can play a part in you being a genuine supporter.

You don't have to be white to be a Liverpool supporter

Im British, I have been to Anfield since a child and will continue to do so. Someone in Delhi can't say the same.

Mate its clear that you are trolling .So imma leave this debate right here.Shabba Khair

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't recall which city it was..probably Bangalore, where I happened to see a manchester united bar and restaurant.. the guys sitting inside were wearing manchester jerseys over their tummies and were glued to the t screen. Felt like puking. Those wannabe delusionals probably do this to feel they are sitting somewhere in UK and want to forget that they are in india. I know these types.. they are often looking at their phones and have headphones on to escape from the sight and sounds of their surrounding in india and feel teleported to some advanced western country. These bangalorean losers were even found celebrating la tomatina.. the tomato festival. Wish I could slap each one of them personally, for wasting crops when there are people starving.

Is this due to some sort of inferiority complex? As, if I think I support Utd sat in Bangalore I'm not really a backward Indian like many others here?

 

[Heisenberg]

I don't recall which city it was..probably Bangalore, where I happened to see a manchester united bar and restaurant.. the guys sitting inside were wearing manchester jerseys over their tummies and were glued to the t screen. Felt like puking. Those wannabe delusionals probably do this to feel they are sitting somewhere in UK and want to forget that they are in india. I know these types.. they are often looking at their phones and have headphones on to escape from the sight and sounds of their surrounding in india and feel teleported to some advanced western country. These bangalorean losers were even found celebrating la tomatina.. the tomato festival. Wish I could slap each one of them personally, for wasting crops when there are people starving.

That just sounds bitter because they are having fun and you aren't

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nothing wrong with supporting foreign football teams if that's your thing. But I should tell you, the genuine supporters of these football clubs find it all rather funny when they see Indians and Chinese walking around with Manchester United football tops on. It's all considered a big joke.

What they really don't like is when supporters follow teams from cities other than their own. These guys are referred to as glory hunters. Desis are often at the front of the queue when it comes to such behaviour unfortunately.

 

[kingusama92]

Meh.

When I was young, we didn't have local football (soccer) clubs to follow.

They used to show Manchester United games on cable TV and that's what I started to follow. I wouldn't call myself a glory hunter otherwise I would have jumped over to Real Madrid a long time ago.

 

[Barragan]

There was talk of PL games being played abroad, which sums up what the clubs and PL authorities think of foreign support.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There was talk of PL games being played abroad, which sums up what the clubs and PL authorities think of foreign support.

Pigs will fly before this happens.

 

[Barragan]

Pigs will fly before this happens.

Whether it happens or not, but it gives an indication of what foreign support is doing right now.

It is making them think and answers the question of this thread.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Whether it happens or not, but it gives an indication of what foreign support is doing right now.

It is making them think and answers the question of this thread.

It's not doing anything of the sort. No PL team would play their homes games in some stadium in Malaysia, not to mention the logistic issues but it would be met with massive protests by the real supporters. The foreign fans can see the teams in pre-season friendlies and this is how it will remain.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There was talk of PL games being played abroad, which sums up what the clubs and PL authorities think of foreign support.

They see foreign support as cash cows basically. India and China are huge markets and they don't have teams of their own to follow so it's easy to score big on shirt sales in those countries. most Premier league clubs try and include a tour to the east as part of their summer program off season, although managers don't like it because it's seen as a disruption to their schedule. But money talks and clubs can make huge money if they can build a support base in Asia. But they aren't about to play any serious competitive games over there any time soon so get that out of your head.

 

[big_gamer007]

Nothing wrong with supporting foreign football teams if that's your thing. But I should tell you, the genuine supporters of these football clubs find it all rather funny when they see Indians and Chinese walking around with Manchester United football tops on. It's all considered a big joke.

What they really don't like is when supporters follow teams from cities other than their own. These guys are referred to as glory hunters. Desis are often at the front of the queue when it comes to such behaviour unfortunately.

Glory hunters are different they are the ones who ship support to clubs who are winning and don't stick with one club..

Coming to your desi point of you have ever watched a Manchester United at home ground there are a group of Sikhs who always sit near where coach sits, they are probably the costliest seats in the stadium and those guys have those seats full year round for many years, so those guys are considered as a joke?

Do the real supporters know that if the non real supporters (who are not from the city the club is in) stop supporting the club the club will go bankrupt?

I guess people just try and portray a superiority complex if they think they are "real" supporters.. There is no such thing as real supporters or fake supporter when the club itself recognises Non city folks as supporters and these non city folks help the club financially directly and indirectly..

Doesn't matter if some losers think only they are the real supporters tomorrow another group of users will come and decide unless you beat up an opponent fan you aren't a real supporter then day after tomorrow another group of loser might come and say you have to kill an opponent player to be considered a real supporter..

Its just some people with opinions doesn't mean that they are right..

 

[Badsha]

This is some proper dark age thinking here.

First of all, it's a global league played by players all around the world. How many "local lads" does the Chelsea football club have? The players themselves are international yet international fans can't support them.

Second, without the global fans these clubs would be nothing. You think all this money and standard of the league is maintained by English fans? Ridiculous.

Also these clubs must be silly for touring Asia and the U.S for their supporters.

 

[Badsha]

Nothing wrong with supporting foreign football teams if that's your thing. But I should tell you, the genuine supporters of these football clubs find it all rather funny when they see Indians and Chinese walking around with Manchester United football tops on. It's all considered a big joke.

What they really don't like is when supporters follow teams from cities other than their own. These guys are referred to as glory hunters. Desis are often at the front of the queue when it comes to such behaviour unfortunately.

That's BS. Who says they are genuine supporters and Indians/Chinese with kits on are fakes? True genuine supporters don't look down upon others that support the club. TBH, such elitist mentality is often ridiculed by normal supporters.

Glory hunters do exist but they are supporters that support a team for winning but don't know a single player.

On a side note, always do whatever the hell makes you happy and don't pay attention to elitists that will look down upon you because you're not following the "fashion". If you live your life by such rules you'll never be happy.

 

[Major]

basically i cant be a supporter of Pakistan cricket team as i would never go to the stands. #logic

 

[RickyG]

KKWC I hope that you don't support the Pakistan cricket team. Also please tell all your premier league teams to stop playing friendlies in North America and East Asia. And more importantly they should ensure that merchandise is only being sold to those that have a valid British Passport.

 

[RickyG]

The true irony of this post is that big British clubs wouldn't be self-sufficient without the global support. If the rest of the world stopped watching the premier league, there would be no massive TV deal. If the rest of the world stopped purchasing merchandise these clubs wouldn't be signing any decent players. Once those two things happen, say good bye to big GLOBAL sponsors like Chevrolet and Samsung. Your uncle's Kabab shop will be sponsoring Manchester United. The height of delusion is believing that you're club would be better off making money only from gate receipts.

 

[Badsha]

The true irony of this post is that big British clubs wouldn't be self-sufficient without the global support. If the rest of the world stopped watching the premier league, there would be no massive TV deal. If the rest of the world stopped purchasing merchandise these clubs wouldn't be signing any decent players. Once those two things happen, say good bye to big GLOBAL sponsors like Chevrolet and Samsung. Your uncle's Kabab shop will be sponsoring Manchester United. The height of delusion is believing that you're club would be better off making money only from gate receipts.

Exactly. I hope this is a troll by KKWC else it is a ridiculous thread.

 

[Syed1]

I have no problem if people watch the Premier League and take great interest in it, heck I used to follow it diligently until a few years ago, my favourite team was LFC when they had players like Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt, Alonso, Carragher and Pepe Reina. I loved watching the way they went about their business and the type of soccer they played.

However, I would never call them MY team because a) I've never been to Liverpool, heck I wouldn't even be able to point it out on a map b) I'm not British and have no direct link with the clubs or teams.

I get put off by desis in Canada and Pakistan who refer to Man United as humari team. What humari team bro? You have never set foot in Manchester, you do not have any linkage to the city and club. Zabardasti ke fans. Just because they saw a team doing well they become its fans.

 

[CricketCartoons]

It is the burger/pizza class. Know these idiots inside out. These are the ones who act like the desperate immigrant and learn the intricacies of the locally popular sports, buy fan gear, and boast about the number of white friends they have. By God, wish I could give each one of them a proper chitrol. Saw a post by a girl complaining about racism because someone complimented her excellent english. She was like..dude we don't just speak english..we study dickens and shakespeare in detail. A westerner not seeing them the same way they see themselves in their western bubble offends their sense of identity, which is predominantly western.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Also these are the same ingrates who use exclamations like Jesus! instead of Aiyyappa/bhagwaan. Offer RIP condolence instead of Ram naam satya hai. Can quote mark twain and james joyce, but ask them about the classics in their mother tongue..and they haven't read any of them. These mental slaves think that being westernized is the height of civilization, and speaking in English means substituting their religious and cultural symbols to that of Christianity.

 

[kaayal]

Who cares?? We will support whoever we want.

 

[Nostalgic]

I support Tottenham, because their black and white uniforms are aesthetically pleasing.

Deal with it.

 

[TM Riddle]

I support Tottenham, because their black and white uniforms are aesthetically pleasing.

Deal with it.

Always knew you were a gloryhunter.

 

[Nostalgic]

Always knew you were a gloryhunter.

You can joke about it now, but just wait for us to win next season. We are moving to Wembley, while our terrific new stadium is being built, on the site of our old stadium. Even if we don't win next season, because our record at our adopted home is poor, there will be the season after that, when we move into our aforementioned new stadium, and then we certainly will be crowned champions, because that is our destiny.

 

[TM Riddle]

You can joke about it now, but just wait for us to win next season. We are moving to Wembley, while our terrific new stadium is being built, on the site of our old stadium. Even if we don't win next season, because our record at our adopted home is poor, there will be the season after that, when we move into our aforementioned new stadium, and then we certainly will be crowned champions, because that is our destiny.

A few more 'WEs' and KKWC will get an heart attack.

 

[Nostalgic]

A few more 'WEs' and KKWC will get an heart attack.

As if we care. KKWC is probably an Arsenal guy, and we hate them with all the passion at our disposal, which is plenty.

 

[Barragan]

It's not doing anything of the sort. No PL team would play their homes games in some stadium in Malaysia, not to mention the logistic issues but it would be met with massive protests by the real supporters. The foreign fans can see the teams in pre-season friendlies and this is how it will remain.

Like I said mentioned before, whether it happens or not is not the main point.

The main point being, you said foreign fans should stop supporting PL clubs, whilst the PL clubs see the opposite and want to increase their base - with the example I gave.

Basically, even the PL clubs disagree with your opinion.

They see foreign support as cash cows basically. India and China are huge markets and they don't have teams of their own to follow so it's easy to score big on shirt sales in those countries. most Premier league clubs try and include a tour to the east as part of their summer program off season, although managers don't like it because it's seen as a disruption to their schedule. But money talks and clubs can make huge money if they can build a support base in Asia. But they aren't about to play any serious competitive games over there any time soon so get that out of your head.

Read above!

 

[TM Riddle]

As if we care. KKWC is probably an Arsenal guy, and we hate them with all the passion at our disposal, which is plenty.

He's from 'my' club Liverpool.
Man now saying LFC as mine doesn't feel good anymore.I feel like an Hindu outcast who committed the mistake of marrying within his gotra and now shunned by the society altogether.

 

[Sidilicious]

As if we care. KKWC is probably an Arsenal guy, and we hate them with all the passion at our disposal, which is plenty.

If you live in India, support Chennai FC or Kerala Blasters or whatever your local team is not Man Utd or Aston Villa.

If you live in the US, LA Galaxy etc..

Same goes for any other country.


Sure you can watch the PL because it is the best league on the planet but don't call yourself a supporter if you will never be in the stands.

Also by KKWC's logic if you are from London you can't support Liverpool. In fact, unless you are from North London, you shouldn't support Arsenal either. Its a flawed argument in the current global climate. Especially when it comes from someone who is not from London (what I understood from his other posts) and considers himself a Gooner. Even worse if he is a Brummie and supports Liverpool.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

I don't watch PL but this is quite a weird thread, I have always heard that these football teams are made up of international star not local ones, so they don't themselves care about their country, local fans

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Glory hunters are different they are the ones who ship support to clubs who are winning and don't stick with one club..

Coming to your desi point of you have ever watched a Manchester United at home ground there are a group of Sikhs who always sit near where coach sits, they are probably the costliest seats in the stadium and those guys have those seats full year round for many years, so those guys are considered as a joke?

Do the real supporters know that if the non real supporters (who are not from the city the club is in) stop supporting the club the club will go bankrupt?

I guess people just try and portray a superiority complex if they think they are "real" supporters.. There is no such thing as real supporters or fake supporter when the club itself recognises Non city folks as supporters and these non city folks help the club financially directly and indirectly..

Doesn't matter if some losers think only they are the real supporters tomorrow another group of users will come and decide unless you beat up an opponent fan you aren't a real supporter then day after tomorrow another group of loser might come and say you have to kill an opponent player to be considered a real supporter..

Its just some people with opinions doesn't mean that they are right..

Don't shoot the messenger, I am only telling you from the horse's mouth. I have been a football supporter of my club before it was trendy for Asians to even be seen at football matches back in the days when they thought cricket was the only game played by the rest of the world. I'm not making any judgement in my post on foreign football supporters, I already said there's nothing wrong with it if you read back. I'm just telling you how the local football fans think of their foreign fan base. It's all seen as very entertaining but not taken seriously. It is a joke to many, sorry to say it but it is. When the Indians bought Blackburn Rovers they were often to as the Indian chicken farmers and not really taken seriously by your average football fan who found it quite funny.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with following other sports teams around the world, especially if you don't have one to support where you live. But football fans who are fanatical about their local sides are generally very proud of their region and their own roots, therefore it's inevitable that they don't see someone living halfway across the world as being as relevant as they are.

 

[WC-Passion]

I support Tottenham, because their black and white uniforms are aesthetically pleasing.

Deal with it.

Spurs?! Nostalgic I thought you were better than this. Have fun watching and supporting the PL version of SA Cricket. )

 

[big_gamer007]

Don't shoot the messenger, I am only telling you from the horse's mouth. I have been a football supporter of my club before it was trendy for Asians to even be seen at football matches back in the days when they thought cricket was the only game played by the rest of the world. I'm not making any judgement in my post on foreign football supporters, I already said there's nothing wrong with it if you read back. I'm just telling you how the local football fans think of their foreign fan base. It's all seen as very entertaining but not taken seriously. It is a joke to many, sorry to say it but it is. When the Indians bought Blackburn Rovers they were often to as the Indian chicken farmers and not really taken seriously by your average football fan who found it quite funny.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with following other sports teams around the world, especially if you don't have one to support where you live. But football fans who are fanatical about their local sides are generally very proud of their region and their own roots, therefore it's inevitable that they don't see someone living halfway across the world as being as relevant as they are.

I understand where you are coming from and Maybe the local fans think that ways for smaller clubs and I do understand their POV especially for a club like Blackburn who got screwed over by Venky's big time. They appointed Shelby Singh director of football for Blackburn coz he used to be an expert on a show telecaster in India before PL matches no wonder they got relegated lol.

But big clubs like Arsenal, united, Madrid, Barca, Liverpool etc are no more just local clubs but are global clubs.. and I would assume local fans of these clubs would appreciate the global fans around the world who have made these clubs the top clubs in the world else they would have been like Aston villa, Birmingham city, New castle etc who has rich local heritage but never had global support to be a huge brand nor had any Middle eastern oil tycoon or Russian billionaire pump billions of $$ on their squad to build a new fan base globally..

Also can you answer a question do the white fans just look down upon Indian/Pakistani/Chinese supporters or if someone white from any part of Europe or Australia or USA support a local club are they looked down upon as well??

What about someone born in any other city supports a club of another city is he/she also gets looked down upon by the "real" fans??

 

[big_gamer007]

Also these are the same ingrates who use exclamations like Jesus! instead of Aiyyappa/bhagwaan. Offer RIP condolence instead of Ram naam satya hai. Can quote mark twain and james joyce, but ask them about the classics in their mother tongue..and they haven't read any of them. These mental slaves think that being westernized is the height of civilization, and speaking in English means substituting their religious and cultural symbols to that of Christianity.

Hahahaha some of your posts are real classic..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I understand where you are coming from and Maybe the local fans think that ways for smaller clubs and I do understand their POV especially for a club like Blackburn who got screwed over by Venky's big time. They appointed Shelby Singh director of football for Blackburn coz he used to be an expert on a show telecaster in India before PL matches no wonder they got relegated lol.

But big clubs like Arsenal, united, Madrid, Barca, Liverpool etc are no more just local clubs but are global clubs.. and I would assume local fans of these clubs would appreciate the global fans around the world who have made these clubs the top clubs in the world else they would have been like Aston villa, Birmingham city, New castle etc who has rich local heritage but never had global support to be a huge brand nor had any Middle eastern oil tycoon or Russian billionaire pump billions of $$ on their squad to build a new fan base globally..

Also can you answer a question do the white fans just look down upon Indian/Pakistani/Chinese supporters or if someone white from any part of Europe or Australia or USA support a local club are they looked down upon as well??

What about someone born in any other city supports a club of another city is he/she also gets looked down upon by the "real" fans??

I would say the most contempt is for fans who live in one city but support a different one. These are usually the ones referred to as glory hunters. Indian/Pakistani/Chinese supporters are just seen as slightly funny, there's no hatred there. But that's just for those who actually live in India/China/Pakistan. Those who are actually living and working in the city are accepted as locals and welcomed by most fans. Although football fans are mostly drawn from the working classes so there is always an element of racism among a minority which goes with the intellect level.

Of those clubs you mentioned, the London ones are probably the most open to being described as global. Liverpool? I don't think so. The scousers are pretty fiercely territorial.

 

[mani1]

I would say the most contempt is for fans who live in one city but support a different one. These are usually the ones referred to as glory hunters. Indian/Pakistani/Chinese supporters are just seen as slightly funny, there's no hatred there. But that's just for those who actually live in India/China/Pakistan. Those who are actually living and working in the city are accepted as locals and welcomed by most fans. Although football fans are mostly drawn from the working classes so there is always an element of racism among a minority which goes with the intellect level.

Of those clubs you mentioned, the London ones are probably the most open to being described as global. Liverpool? I don't think so. The scousers are pretty fiercely territorial.

Yep. Also in Manchester many locals only consider City as the Manchester team as Trafford isn't technically even Manchester and falls under a separate local authority.

 

[big_gamer007]

I would say the most contempt is for fans who live in one city but support a different one. These are usually the ones referred to as glory hunters. Indian/Pakistani/Chinese supporters are just seen as slightly funny, there's no hatred there. But that's just for those who actually live in India/China/Pakistan. Those who are actually living and working in the city are accepted as locals and welcomed by most fans. Although football fans are mostly drawn from the working classes so there is always an element of racism among a minority which goes with the intellect level.

Of those clubs you mentioned, the London ones are probably the most open to being described as global. Liverpool? I don't think so. The scousers are pretty fiercely territorial.

Ahh ok I guess to each his own.. At the end of the day they call football the beautiful game and if someone loves watching any team play no one should resent them for not being born in that city..

Eventually if you look at any club these days they don't even have even 1 locally produced player..Even the Indian Liverpool fan base in India is the most passionate amongst all the clubs fan base in India.. Or atleast they used to be back in my old college days, always found it pretty funny and now reading how people from the cities of the club themselves feel about outsiders I guess I understand somewhat..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yep. Also in Manchester many locals only consider City as the Manchester team as Trafford isn't technically even Manchester and falls under a separate local authority.

Yes I've heard that as well, but the majority converted to Man United during the glory years. Maybe with the money flowing City's way now with the Arab money the next generation might start drifting back.

 

[Sidilicious]

Yes I've heard that as well, but the majority converted to Man United during the glory years. Maybe with the money flowing City's way now with the Arab money the next generation might start drifting back.

nah, the majority within Manchester were always city supporters. Even during their bad years in the early noughties.

But by the same token, as you stated earlier, some one from West London should not support Arsenal or Spurs? Their only choices are Brentford, Fulham or Chelsea? Have you ever seen the Virgin trains to Manchester Piccadily on a Saturday morning for a home game? Most trains are packed with people wearing United kits. Are these supporters are 'looked down upon' by the Stretford end regulars? As some one who has done that route multiple times, I can tell you, its a big fat no. A untied supporter is one of them, and part of the old Trafford faithful.

The fact is, the top 6 within the PL (minus Spurs) have a very international support base. Including Liverpool who have a massive fan base in SE Asia. Reason why their pre season matches are normally played in SE Asia.

 

[KingKhanWC]

KKWC I hope that you don't support the Pakistan cricket team. Also please tell all your premier league teams to stop playing friendlies in North America and East Asia. And more importantly they should ensure that merchandise is only being sold to those that have a valid British Passport.

I have a Pakistani background, watched them live many times. It's a little different from a Tamil who has no connection to the country and never will attend a match.

LFC like all clubs is a product, no harm in selling it worldwide. I watch the Spanish, Italian, Brazilian and Argentinian leagues, doesn't mean I'm a supporter.

But I hope these plastic fans carry on spending money, it will makes the PL clubs richer and we will have better players to see live, while you can watch them in HD.

I'm sorry if people feel offended but the truth is if you live abroad, have no connection to the country and will never sit in the stadiums, you are not a real supporter but a foreign fan. There is nothing wrong it, you cannot change who you are and your location.

Foreigners don't really understand British football, it's different to other countries. There are 92 professional teams in England alone. There are hundreds of non-league clubs in every town in England. Football is on the same level in England as cricket is in India or Pakistan. It's part of the culture, not just a sport people follow. Even in a stadium there are traditions to be followed, singing of club songs, jeering traditional chants, remembering the history is part of being a supporter.

Yes not everyone supports their immediate local club but England isn't a big country. If you live here and travel 1.5 hrs to see a team, it's fine and not the same as a 7 hr flight to a different continent.

Go and attend matches at your local club in the country you live. It's not about winning or glory (ask brother [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] being a villa supporter.) Support them with passion and one day they might be a great world club.

 

[Nostalgic]

Spurs?! Nostalgic I thought you were better than this. Have fun watching and supporting the PL version of SA Cricket. )

Just you wait. Our glory days are just around the corner. We are going to Europe too, and we have an underrated manager, and we have that stellar forward line. We've put St. Totteringham's Day behind us, once and for all.

Last but not least, we have the most elegant uniforms. That's what I like best about us.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

nah, the majority within Manchester were always city supporters. Even during their bad years in the early noughties.

But by the same token, as you stated earlier, some one from West London should not support Arsenal or Spurs? Their only choices are Brentford, Fulham or Chelsea? Have you ever seen the Virgin trains to Manchester Piccadily on a Saturday morning for a home game? Most trains are packed with people wearing United kits. Are these supporters are 'looked down upon' by the Stretford end regulars? As some one who has done that route multiple times, I can tell you, its a big fat no. A untied supporter is one of them, and part of the old Trafford faithful.

The fact is, the top 6 within the PL (minus Spurs) have a very international support base. Including Liverpool who have a massive fan base in SE Asia. Reason why their pre season matches are normally played in SE Asia.

There's a running joke amongst football fans from the rest of the country that most of Man U's fan base is in London. It's not really a Manchester club any more, it's whoever can afford to pay the ticket, doesn't matter where they are from. With a bit of success the glory hunters from all over the country come running on board with any club. Man U is the glory hunter King club of England and desis are always at the front of the queue.

 

[WC-Passion]

Just you wait. Our glory days are just around the corner. We are going to Europe too, and we have an underrated manager, and we have that stellar forward line. We've put St. Totteringham's Day behind us, once and for all.

Last but not least, we have the most elegant uniforms. That's what I like best about us.

Your players are underpaid compared to other top PL clubs, you couldn't beat a top 4 Belgian League team in the Europa League, and you've failed at Wembley several times and you have to play all your home games there now.

Son is probably going to leave for mandatory army service for South Korea, Walker and Rose might leave for the Manchester clubs due to wage demands and problems behind the scenes, while Kane + Alli will leave Spurs searching for trophies if they fail to win one again this season.

Not to mention Barcelona sniffing around to try and swoop in for Eriksen. Investment will be difficult with the £750m Stadium costs too.

Your "elegant" kit is not going to save you from all these problems.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=138836]WC-Passion[/MENTION] is one of those foreigners until he supports Villa, then I will welcome you with open arms and agree with all your views even the naughty ones

 

[shaz619]

This is a good thread [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] , [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] is one of those foreigners he use to support Real Madrid and then switched to Barcelona, I mean that says a lot with regards to the type of fan he is and his footballing IQ [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION]

 

[WC-Passion]

[MENTION=138836]WC-Passion[/MENTION] is one of those foreigners until he supports Villa, then I will welcome you with open arms and agree with all your views even the naughty ones

Never. I'll rather support Bandit City over Villa who have such a toxic fanbase (especially in the area I live in). I couldn't stand them even before I got into football, they always thought they were the best of the best for whatever reason. Shaz I think your one of the very few Villa fans who I actually respect.

Also I'll have you know, that I have a Chelsea membership with a good amount of loyalty points on it. I'm not your average glory-hunter fan who couldn't even find their respective club on a map.

I'm not sure what you mean by agreeing with my views and (especially that part about the naughty ones, why even mention that ), I thought we agreed on most things?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

OP is right. Most of the fans especially from India and Pakistan are just wannabes. They want to look cool by discussing Man Utd vs Liverpool. Most of them have no idea about their rivalry but hey who cares we look cool. These are the same crazy football fans who can't even name 2 players from the indian or pakistani football national team.