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India v Pakistan cricket is almost treated like war itself amidst all the political tensions, its significance is unparalleled; educated footy fans accept this as well
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400mIndia v Pakistan cricket is almost treated like war itself amidst all the political tensions, its significance is unparalleled; educated footy fans accept this as well
India-Pakistan World Cup match had 288 mn viewers across channels.the butt hurt is great in this one!!!!!!!!!!! lolol
All the nay sayers and detractors getting mega butt hurt, and the el classico still at 400 million is less than half of pak v india semi final and even still that was a one off match that got those numbers, they play time and time again!!!
India-Pakistan World Cup match had 288 mn viewers across channels.
When did 288m > 400m.We dont care about the messis and ronaldos being bigger superstars or having global reognition, all that matters to people in viullages in pak and india watching this match is that only!!! And yet still bigger numbers!!!
We dont have stupid inferiority complex that white people are not watching our match all around the world!
That goes for every event ...Dude it was 1 billion global audience those numbers are not accounting true viewers ie 20 people watching on 1 set!!!!
That goes for every event fpalm
Because entire villages in India watched India-Pakistan it makes India-Pakistan bigger)
Outside those countries, no one gave a damn.
Barca-Madrid transcends boundaries and is mainstream.
This is the equivalent to comparing Rock-Austin to Hogan-Andre.
More people watched Hogan-Andre, Rock-Austin is more iconic and bigger.
Because entire villages in India watched India-Pakistan it makes India-Pakistan bigger)
Outside those countries, no one gave a damn.
Barca-Madrid transcends boundaries and is mainstream.
This is the equivalent to comparing Rock-Austin to Hogan-Andre.
More people watched Hogan-Andre, Rock-Austin is more iconic and bigger.
Because entire villages in India watched India-Pakistan it makes India-Pakistan bigger)
Outside those countries, no one gave a damn.
Barca-Madrid transcends boundaries and is mainstream.
This is the equivalent to comparing Rock-Austin to Hogan-Andre.
More people watched Hogan-Andre, Rock-Austin is more iconic and bigger.
What if it turns out to be "Grande Rain-o"?....what is the ruling on reserve day?....which conditions need to be met to use reserve day?
How many people watched India-Pakistan outside those countries?
I could go outside and ask 100 people...Exactly, all social classes watched that game. So you're suggesting that Barca/Real is like what cricket is for privileged British people![]()
Barca/Madrid is insignificant compared to Pak/Ind rivalry and is more like a Jeff/Matt hardy rivalry compared to a Bret/Shawn feud.
I could go outside and ask 100 people...
Messi or Ronaldo? I'd get an answer from 100 people.
Barca or Real Madrid? 85 out of 100.
India or Pakistan? I'd expect 80 of my responses to asking me what I mean by that.
You can do that for every country on the planet and the results would be similar.
That Rivalry![]()
Mohammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Messi, Ronaldo, Virat Kohli and Sarfraz Ahmed.Since when do politicians get involved when Barca or Real lose, does the honour of their countries army's be at stake and everyone's dignity in their country; are the two nations constantly at war which raise the stakes during sporting contests. Since when do Real/Barca carry the weight of billions expectations on their shoulders. It's just another football derby and nothing more, Pak/India rivalry involves a battle between men and not little girls who kick a ball around like brainless animals![]()
Messi-Ronaldo is a bigger rivalry than El Clasico and India-Pakistan.
If Argentina and Portugal were to meet in a WC Final, it would break ratings records.
Mohammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Messi, Ronaldo, Virat Kohli and Sarfraz Ahmed.
Pick the two names that don't belong in there![]()
I never said that, I said on actual numbers, Barca-Madrid was far bigger.even after all you say pak v india will be watched by more people, so I ask you why the butt hurt ?
we will never ever ever accept that this is not a proper rivalry with more viewers than el classico or anything else!
[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] Barca-Madrid rivalry isnt the same as Indo-Pak ones put it this way u cant be an Indian fan just 3 years ago then become A hardcore Pakistani fan.
This rivalry is above gloryhunting n bandwagoning.
Unlike majority of overseas Barca n Madrid fans who are gloryhunters who only support them because of their success n they have big players..
once messi n ronaldo go n if barca n madrid decline for a bit those fake fans will support the next big thing.
But the love for an India or Pakistan remains forever in your heart.
Indo-Pak rivalry has had wars fought over it.
Way bigger in all aspects
No one outside India or Pakistan gives a damn about this rivalry or the sport.[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] Barca-Madrid rivalry isnt the same as Indo-Pak ones put it this way u cant be an Indian fan just 3 years ago then become A hardcore Pakistani fan.
This rivalry is above gloryhunting n bandwagoning.
Unlike majority of overseas Barca n Madrid fans who are gloryhunters who only support them because of their success n they have big players..
once messi n ronaldo go n if barca n madrid decline for a bit those fake fans will support the next big thing.
But the love for an India or Pakistan remains forever in your heart.
Indo-Pak rivalry has had wars fought over it.
Way bigger in all aspects
No one outside Europe gives a damn about Spain/Barca rivalry
This is as nonsensical as calling Football the most watched sport in the world, when everyone full well knows that world does not know or care for Barca/Real beyond Europe.
What part of no one outside India or Pakistan cares don't you get?When it comes to stakes Ind/Pak > Footy derby's
When it comes to viewership Ind/Pak > Footy derby's
Those who disagree = Glory Hunters with identity crisis
400m globallyWell Said![]()
I never said that, I said on actual numbers, Barca-Madrid was far bigger.
India-pakistan could have been bigger, but ratings wise it was not. We have no idea to determine how many people actually watched either event but the ratings which put Barca-Madrid well ahead.
What part of no one outside India or Pakistan cares don't you get?
Just have a read of your buddys thread to see how popular the sport is to the world.
He just gets sad when there is no Test Cricket, no one cares about Barca/Spain outside Europethe stakes are nothing compared to Ind/Pak, low IQ glory hunters can think otherwise
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More than one billion fans tuned in to watch the final of the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™, with the competition reaching a global in-home television audience of 3.2 billion people, according to final figures from FIFA and Kantar Media.
that draw
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Bruh... Messi is a bigger draw than India and Pakistan combinedMore people still watched the 2011 Cricket World Cup Semi-Final, Barca/Spain rivalry is nothing compared to India/Pakistan![]()
Bruh... Messi is a bigger draw than India and Pakistan combined)
Messi sold 95,000 tickets at the MCG last weekMessi can't draw flies outside EuropeBangladesh combined are bigger draws them him to be honest
A generation of fans will follow Barca and Real for the rest of their lives. If Barca and Real recruit well, they can replicate Messi vs Ronaldo (obviously not to the same level, but #1 vs #2) to get the next generation.el classico has gone huge now because of messi n ronaldo. n ballon d or intrigue. when i was a kid it was a big game but wasnt the global spectacle it is now n thata coz of 2 players n the army of gloryhuntera n .
once they go it will go back down in hype.
but indo pak will always rake in the hundreds of millions.
Pakistan vs India is still seen as a big game no matter how much Indians try to play down the game. Both sides are desperate to win.
It's almost like cricketing war when the 2 sides meet although recently India have dominated.
For me Pakistan vs India is the most watched and biggest cricket match.
If other top tier cricketing nations can't draw in their own countries, what does it mean for Pakistan-India's global appealFinally a respected footy fan on these forums with sense, well said
el classico has gone huge now because of messi n ronaldo. n ballon d or intrigue. when i was a kid it was a big game but wasnt the global spectacle it is now n thata coz of 2 players n the army of gloryhuntera n *******.
once they go it will go back down in hype.
but indo pak will always rake in the hundreds of millions.
95,000 at the G for a friendly against a Brazil side with a lot of their stars missing.Messi can't draw flies outside Europe. And his choking is killing the sport [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] all hype no substance, a guy with nothing to show in international level is considered by some the King of Football![]()
Because entire villages in India watched India-Pakistan it makes India-Pakistan bigger)
Outside those countries, no one gave a damn.
Barca-Madrid transcends boundaries and is mainstream.
This is the equivalent to comparing Rock-Austin to Hogan-Andre.
More people watched Hogan-Andre, Rock-Austin is more iconic and bigger.
el classico has gone huge now because of messi n ronaldo. n ballon d or intrigue. when i was a kid it was a big game but wasnt the global spectacle it is now n thata coz of 2 players n the army of gloryhuntera n .
once they go it will go back down in hype.
but indo pak will always rake in the hundreds of millions.
Even at its peak, India-Pakistan has never been global or mainstream.Quality point.
El Clásico is only drawing in these numbers because some of the greatest players the world has ever seen are playing on both sides.
The fact that IND v PAK can still have this appeal despite PAK being ranked 8 is truly remarkable.
Cricket legends (Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara etc) couldn't half sell out small baseball stadiums in the StatesMessi is killing football with choking, football draws those numbers not Messi or the rivalry. Ind/Pak rivalry can sell out 500K stadia without the likes of Sachin and Imran Khan. People only care about Real/Barca feud due to Ronaldo.
Because entire villages in India watched India-Pakistan it makes India-Pakistan bigger)
Outside those countries, no one gave a damn.
Barca-Madrid transcends boundaries and is mainstream.
This is the equivalent to comparing Rock-Austin to Hogan-Andre.
More people watched Hogan-Andre, Rock-Austin is more iconic and bigger.
Cricket legends (Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara etc) couldn't half sell out small baseball stadiums in the States))
Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and the big football clubs could sell out stadiums around the world.
Even at its peak, India-Pakistan has never been global or mainstream.
IMO you can't be the biggest when the sole reason you're in the discussion because of population.
India-Pakistan is nowhere close to being mainstream or global.
Barca-Madrid and Cavs-GSW are the biggest rivalries in sport atm. India-Pakistan doesn't register because most even know that a rivalry exists.
Can not wait for the match absolutely pumped! Gonna stay up all night for the biggest sporting rivalry in the world Pakistan vs India and that to in a Final!!!
Time to take home our first ever Champions Trophy!
#INDVSPAK
Cavs-GSW have gone to the Finals 3 straight years and are doing record ratings.Agree with your point but I wouldn't include Cavs-GSW in this conversation.
Take out Lebron and that rivalry is finished. There's no history there at all.
Dude... Messi and Liverpool did 95,000 at the MCGExactly, those legends did good numbers in a non-cricketing territory while those footy gods limit themselves to Europe, South America etc
And beyond that it is the Ind/Pak rivalry which is the huge draw on any continent even africa it would be a sell out, El Jobberisco does not compare
We're rubbish, so are Australia.let this not distract us from the fact that New Zealand first to be kicked out of CT 2017
Its zazba ...its junoon...its war....yes its india vs pakistan match
Cavs-GSW have gone to the Finals 3 straight years and are doing record ratings.
Fair enough.Oh absolutely it's been brilliant to follow and watch but it's nothing more than a short-term rivalry built on the shoulder of superstars.
10 years from now, no one will care about Cavs-GSW games.
The same can't be said for Barca-Madrid where the players can change but the rivalry remains forever. IND-PAK is closer to this category as it transcends generations.
what time does it start for you? Footy fans would go to sleep if it were the el jobberisco![]()
Take the L, Jazzy B.
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India-Pakistan only prints money in those countries.
Barca-Madrid is global![]()
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If you were good in football, would cricket be as popular?The intensity is not the same these days. I was born in the 80s, can remember the 87 WC vividly. I have seen the peak of fanaticism in the 90s where we were left high and dry most of the time by the timid team. We used to get occasional solace in Tendulkar and a few win here and there.
The interest in cricket is still there but people don't go crazy over the results these days. This Sunday's match will still be watched widely and people will still cheer for the blues. But in case of a loss, the nation will not go into a 'Gloom mode' like in the 90s and if we win I don't expect people to go overboard in celebration (except may be in few smaller towns and few bylanes in the metros). The post match analysis in offices/buses/paanwalas will not go on for a week like in the past. Obviously the semi-literate abusive troll with Jio sims will always be there to spread filth on FB etc.
I am not good at articulating my thoughts. What I meant is that cricket still is, and will remain the most popular sports in India (as we stink at global sports), for a while. But there is a gradual decline in interest although it's barely visible at this moment. Blame it on IPL or endless bi-lateral meaningless serieses. Overkill!
Hard to say. People think football would be more popular if the team won more, but our football team has been on a roll recently and won 12 of their last 14 matches, taking their ranking to what would be 97, making them the only South Asian side in the top 100, but it hasn't gotten a huge deal of media coverage. I think even if we qualified for the FIFA World Cup, there wouldn't be near the same passion for it as there is for the Cricket World Cup.If you were good in football, would cricket be as popular?
If you were good in football, would cricket be as popular?