Former cricketer Saleem Malik joins PML-Q

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LAHORE: Former cricketer Saleem Malik joined Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) on Wednesday.

Malik met senior leaders of the party, Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi and Chaudhry Shujat Hussain at the latter’s residence, and announced his decision.

The former skipper appreciated PML-Q leaders for promotion of sports in the country.

Chaudhry Shuajaat on the occasion said his party had an open-door policy for all Pakistanis, committed to work for the betterment of the country.

Malik was one of three international captains, along with South Africa’s Hansie Cronje and India’s Mohammad Azharuddin, to be given life bans from all forms of cricket after Delhi police discovered evidence in 2000 that Cronje had accepted money from a bookmaker to throw matches.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

This is an Azharuddin-esque move.

 

[Asim_khan]

He's got some nerve showing his face in public after what he was found guilty of. But this is Pakistan, corruption and crime pays

 

[Pakpak]

He's got some nerve showing his face in public after what he was found guilty of. But this is Pakistan, corruption and crime pays

How long will he be punished for it? He has begged and begged to be forgiven, even his children were not given admission in a lot of places how is that fair on them?

At the end of the day you can't really compare corruption in a sport which destroys no lives with the shameless corruption of people like Sharifs which destroys millions of lives.

 

[Asim_khan]

How long will he be punished for it? He has begged and begged to be forgiven, even his children were not given admission in a lot of places how is that fair on them?

At the end of the day you can't really compare corruption in a sport which destroys no lives with the shameless corruption of people like Sharifs which destroys millions of lives.

It's scandalous that his children are suffering for the crimes of the father, and that is totally wrong. Similarly he's had his punishment, and legally he should be free to join whatever party he wants, however he can beg and plead for forgiveness for his crimes, but those who see representing your country as the highest honour, can call him out on it.

 

[Pakpak]

It's scandalous that his children are suffering for the crimes of the father, and that is totally wrong. Similarly he's had his punishment, and legally he should be free to join whatever party he wants, however he can beg and plead for forgiveness for his crimes, but those who see representing your country as the highest honour, can call him out on it.

Which is fair enough but which is not what you said in your previous post. You said ''how can he show his face in public'', I mean what should he do, put himself under house arrest for the rest of his mortal life? For what, fixing in a sport. He was banned from it, banned from any cricket role yet he is still getting humiliated decades later. He has served his punishment many times over now.

 

[Syed1]

He has been punished enough. He is free to do whatever he feels like now to earn an honest living.

 

[Asim_khan]

Which is fair enough but which is not what you said in your previous post. You said ''how can he show his face in public'', I mean what should he do, put himself under house arrest for the rest of his mortal life? For what, fixing in a sport. He was banned from it, banned from any cricket role yet he is still getting humiliated decades later. He has served his punishment many times over now.

Fine, so I ask you, could you show your face in public after being caught selling out your country? Whether it be in cricket or tiddly winks? I certainly couldn't. The least any honourable man could do is retire himself from public life, but honour is in short supply, particularly in politics. Then again can you expect honour from someone who sold out to illegal bookies whilst representing his country. Btw that sport he sold out to is also the reason we're discussing politics on a cricket website, it also means enough for people to commit suicide if their country loses, so I think it deserves a bit more respect and importance than the way you phrased it.

And there's a huge difference between being under house arrest and publicising yourself as a prized pony for a political party.

Having said all that, he is living through his punishment, and if this is what he wants, then good luck to him. But he'll do well to convince me he deserves it

 

[Pakpak]

Fine, so I ask you, could you show your face in public after being caught selling out your country? Whether it be in cricket or tiddly winks? I certainly couldn't. The least any honourable man could do is retire himself from public life, but honour is in short supply, particularly in politics. Then again can you expect honour from someone who sold out to illegal bookies whilst representing his country. Btw that sport he sold out to is also the reason we're discussing politics on a cricket website, it also means enough for people to commit suicide if their country loses, so I think it deserves a bit more respect and importance than the way you phrased it.

And there's a huge difference between being under house arrest and publicising yourself as a prized pony for a political party.

Having said all that, he is living through his punishment, and if this is what he wants, then good luck to him. But he'll do well to convince me he deserves it

Not really, anyone who commits suicide over sports is an idiot, nothing more nothing less. Fixing in a sport absolutely destroy noone's lives other than the person who's fixing. It is not even a patch on corruption done by our government.

Unfortunately retiring himself from public life won't earn him any money and neither should he. He has been banned, humiliated enough.

 

[Asim_khan]

Not really, anyone who commits suicide over sports is an idiot, nothing more nothing less. Fixing in a sport absolutely destroy noone's lives other than the person who's fixing. It is not even a patch on corruption done by our government.

Unfortunately retiring himself from public life won't earn him any money and neither should he. He has been banned, humiliated enough.

Yes, unfortunately we're in a situation where being out of the public eye won't pay as well as what he was used to with the illegal bookies, just like what the PCB was paying him wasn't enough

 

[Pakpak]

Yes, unfortunately we're in a situation where being out of the public eye won't pay as well as what he was used to with the illegal bookies, just like what the PCB was paying him wasn't enough

Another stupid post.

He has now a right to earn money anyway he can especially as he was, rightfully, banned from doing so from anything cricket related.

Social justice warriors like you who want him to put himself under house arrest for the rest of his life, what can I say. Corruption in sport, again, deserves a ban from it. That's it, and he has been banned. That's his punishment done. Our country has bigger things to worry about right now.

 

[WebGuru]

Leave the guy alone he already suffered a lot for 2 decades while other pak legends (with fixing history) were busy making money through all type contracts with media and pcb and fans never complained just because they had better numbers in their career. Please stop complaining about fixers in cricket when the country is being run by mafia doing far bigger damage to the country thn cricketers...

Best of luck to Malik sahab for a great future ahead in politics he deserve another opportunity.

 

[Major]

Leave the guy alone he already suffered a lot for 2 decades while other pak legends (with fixing history) were busy making money through all type contracts with media and pcb and fans never complained just because they had better numbers in their career. Please stop complaining about fixers in cricket when the country is being run by mafia doing far bigger damage to the country thn cricketers...

Best of luck to Malik sahab for a great future ahead in politics he deserve another opportunity.

if he has suffered he deserves it. Shouldnt had done the act.

people who do such things will always face backlash you cant expect us to leave them alone. He may aswell done the time, but he will have to face the criticism for the rest of his life?

Why?

Its the type of crime he committed.

 

[Syed1]

if he has suffered he deserves it. Shouldnt had done the act.

people who do such things will always face backlash you cant expect us to leave them alone. He may aswell done the time, but he will have to face the criticism for the rest of his life?

Why?

Its the type of crime he committed.

So cricket corruption is a bigger offense than financial and political corruption (the kind of which is exhibited by Noon league and you wholeheartedly support)

 

[Asim_khan]

Another stupid post.

He has now a right to earn money anyway he can especially as he was, rightfully, banned from doing so from anything cricket related.

Social justice warriors like you who want him to put himself under house arrest for the rest of his life, what can I say. Corruption in sport, again, deserves a ban from it. That's it, and he has been banned. That's his punishment done. Our country has bigger things to worry about right now.

Please spare me having to explain the difference between being under house arrest and withdrawing yourself from public life.

You're obviously fine with corrupt people being involved in politics, being championed as a major coup by a political party, I'm not.

 

[Pakpak]

Please spare me having to explain the difference between being under house arrest and withdrawing yourself from public life.

You're obviously fine with corrupt people being involved in politics, being championed as a major coup by a political party, I'm not.

I am not 'championing' anything. I am saying he is free to do what he wants, he has done his punishment. That's his basic and legal right as a human being. As for me, I am one of the biggest critics of PMLN and their corruption so your suggestion I am okay with corruption in politics belongs in the trash can. Unless you have evidence Malik has done corruption in politics, if you do please share it, don't bottle it up.

You don't want to see him in public life, which means he should spend his days day inside his house. My analogy with the house arrest was to make your suggestion looks as ludicrous as it sounds. Guy has done his punishment, has endured humiliation which was coming his way, if he can turn out to be a decent politician than good for him and good for the people he represents.

 

[Major]

So cricket corruption is a bigger offense than financial and political corruption (the kind of which is exhibited by Noon league and you wholeheartedly support)

where did i ever said that i support noon league?

 

[Asim_khan]

I am not 'championing' anything. I am saying he is free to do what he wants, he has done his punishment. That's his basic and legal right as a human being. As for me, I am one of the biggest critics of PMLN and their corruption so your suggestion I am okay with corruption in politics belongs in the trash can. Unless you have evidence Malik has done corruption in politics, if you do please share it, don't bottle it up.

You don't want to see him in public life, which means he should spend his days day inside his house. My analogy with the house arrest was to make your suggestion looks as ludicrous as it sounds. Guy has done his punishment, has endured humiliation which was coming his way, if he can turn out to be a decent politician than good for him and good for the people he represents.

The definition of public life, and how I used it is "work that involves being known to a lot of people, especially in politics, but also in religion and education eg After losing the election, he played no further part in public life." http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/public-life
I hope that clears that up, I'm not asking him to lock himself away in his house, I just don't think someone who's been found guilty of corruption on such a scale, should be in public life, i.e as a commentator on tv/radio, journalism or as a public office holder. He sold out his country, and was accused for years of doing so by his own team mates, who even felt the need to go on strike/retire, yet it didn't seem to deter him. You can't be against corruption unless you're against it totally in all it's forms.

And I didn't say you were championing him, I said the party, PMNLQ, were championing the fact he'd joined them, it shows what a disgusting cess pool Pakistani politics is, when someone like Salim Malik is seen as a prized horse (no pun intended).

 

[Pakpak]

The definition of public life, and how I used it is "work that involves being known to a lot of people, especially in politics, but also in religion and education eg After losing the election, he played no further part in public life." http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/public-life
I hope that clears that up, I'm not asking him to lock himself away in his house, I just don't think someone who's been found guilty of corruption on such a scale, should be in public life, i.e as a commentator on tv/radio, journalism or as a public office holder. He sold out his country, and was accused for years of doing so by his own team mates, who even felt the need to go on strike/retire, yet it didn't seem to deter him. You can't be against corruption unless you're against it totally in all it's forms.

And I didn't say you were championing him, I said the party, PMNLQ, were championing the fact he'd joined them, it shows what a disgusting cess pool Pakistani politics is, when someone like Salim Malik is seen as a prized horse (no pun intended).

Where have I said I am not against all forms of corruption?

 

[Pakpak]

The definition of public life, and how I used it is "work that involves being known to a lot of people, especially in politics, but also in religion and education eg After losing the election, he played no further part in public life." http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/public-life
I hope that clears that up, I'm not asking him to lock himself away in his house, I just don't think someone who's been found guilty of corruption on such a scale, should be in public life, i.e as a commentator on tv/radio, journalism or as a public office holder. He sold out his country, and was accused for years of doing so by his own team mates, who even felt the need to go on strike/retire, yet it didn't seem to deter him. You can't be against corruption unless you're against it totally in all it's forms.

And I didn't say you were championing him, I said the party, PMNLQ, were championing the fact he'd joined them, it shows what a disgusting cess pool Pakistani politics is, when someone like Salim Malik is seen as a prized horse (no pun intended).

And I am sorry, your criteria of banning him from certain jobs is ridiculous. You can make an excuse for him not doing any job then.