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Former Pakistan general picked 3 players for Pakistan’s World Cup T20 squad 2021

So Misbah Ul Haq has the same influence as someone like Bajwa that he can influence certain selections and also pick where they bat in the team.

The thread took a turn indeed 🤡

Misbah did the honorable thing and had resigned before this World Cup once the squad was announced. Or are you suggesting he was in cahoots with general Bajwa and was calling the shots?
 
No it was not you fool.


My biggest issue with Rizwan was him unbalancing the entire Pakistan cricket team to make him work.

Dar ka mahaul hai when they start apologising.
 
Misbah did the honorable thing and had resigned before this World Cup once the squad was announced. Or are you suggesting he was in cahoots with general Bajwa and was calling the shots?

Looks like Misbah isn't very popular on PP is he? :ROFLMAO:
 
So? Majority on here hate for the sake of it

Being in the minority isn't bad per se.

A good example of this when @Rana was pretty much on his own when he was the first to predict that the Babar/Rizwan opening combination would turn out to be a disaster. Now if you look at those who are active on the cricket side of PP, I would say at least half of the posters agree with him.

The difference with Misbah is he hasn't stood the test of time after being given major responsibilities in Pakistan cricket; as captain, Head Coach and Chief Selector. Out of those who voted on that PP poll, 80% didn't approve of him taking over from Mickey Arthur.

So no the majority do not hate for the sake of it.
 
So? Majority on here hate for the sake of it
Just wanna chip in, cause I don't view myself as a hater for the sake of it, I don't view myself a hater at all.

I've explained detail reasoning for each and everything and have summed up the points.

A) Rizwan

- No issues With him replacing an aging out of form Sarfaraz. Although ideally it should have happened post 2021 wc but it's whatever, he had better form at the time and at the very least healthy competition should have been created between these 2.

- Every Issue with him replacing Fakhar Zaman in t20. I've detailed multiple reasons as to why. It's the equivalent of replacing de villers in t20 for rizwan. Unlike odi and test de villers was a clown in international t20 but you'd never replace him for rizzu. You'd replace him for QDK.

That's because de villers has shown time and time again that he's a beast in terms of sr, hence you'd still keep him over an accumulator on the off chance that he launches.

Fakhar is the same. His 91 of 46 to this date is the best t20 innings I've seen a Pakistani batsmen play considering the bowling strength of the opposition and the conditons it was achieved in.

- No issues with rizzu in test squad atm.

- no 4 in odi atm is whatever. I had issues back when better players like haris sohail existed but between the likes of Kamran ghulam(on current form), Saud shakeel( odi), rizwan is the better option. I'd want agha at 4 but agha himself prefers 5 and is best at it.

- Captaincy is whatever as their no options but it's more so a reflection of how crap Pakistan has been in cultivating options. Their entire focus is on Babar and rizwan. This is Pakistan not Team Ba/riz.

B) Misbah

- Not even gonna list it as the list is endless, however all my complaints are only in whiteball atm. The only test complaint would may be that he ran yasir shah into the ground and was still poor overseas but in terms of overseas that's the story of every Pakistani test captain.

- However the proof is in the papers, He and ramiz are by far the 2 worst coaches/captains/ Chairman/ Selectors whatever you wanna call them to represent Pakistan in whiteball. In ramiz case, all formats.

The fact you guys have to create endless semantics to justify it proves my point. It's very easy to play blame games.

Anyone can say Rizwan batted beautifully in Asia cup, it's the job of the lower order to chase 60 of 24 in a pressure final when even Australia likely wouldn't be able to do it under such Asian conditons.

Babar

- No issues with him during mickey era. And no issues with him as a batsmen. He's in poor form, however that's okay. Steve smith was in rubbish test form fir 3 years before returning to his best. Blaming someone for poor form is in bad taste and you're not a true supporter of a player if you hate someone for not kicking off.

- However the fact that during ramiz era he was by far the most powerful man in PCB since the chairman was his chamcha and he curated phattas to i crease his test avg to 70 and fool the public as to why he's the greatest test batter from Pakistan all time is criminal.

By doing this, not only did he butcher fc cricket specifically pace talent as no bowler wants to bowl on such pitches for length spells, but Pakistan didn't win a single test during this period. Mainly cause Usman Khawaja was avg 105, Joe root was avg 100+, Harry Brooks was avg 150+ etc etc in such wickets. Babar was wally Hammond while everyone else was Bradman on such pitches.

He even curated the Nepal Asia cup pitch just to avoid lamichane since lami got the better of him in psl multiple times.

- Not to mention he turned Pakistan cricket into a meme boy band club as captain. Everyone player including himself become fat as a glutton. Rizwan, Babar, Abdullah, Imam, naseem, Rauf have all gained weight under him. Only fakhar, Saim and shaheen remain fit likely due to fakhar's military background, and shaheen always wanting to be a fitness freak and saim not being a full member during babar's reign of terror.

- Lastly he's just ungodly stubborn in attitude. No batting coach has been able to work with Babar, anytime someone asks him to learn to loft and sweep, he typically points to fakhar calling him the X factor, which is rich coming from someone who marketed himself on social media as the Greatest. Him hiding in a super over against USA was comical.

^^ These aren't hating for no reasons and unlike most people Including yourself, i don't play the semantics game. I show you the evidence. But again a flat earther will always be a flat earther even if you take him to space and provide an aerial view of the earth being round
 
Misbah himself has done this multiple times. After the disastrous Sri Lanka t20 series, the interviewer outright asked Misbah why before he came as a coach Pakistan was ranked no 1, but after he arrived they lost to C team Sri Lanka 3-0.

Misbah went on and on deriving narratives such as how shehzad and Akmal were proven domestic performers and how shadab Khan was the best available spinner in the talent pool and why the likes of Imam, Shehzad, babar were all selected on pure merit.

The interviewer then pointed out how Imam ul haq can't even get selected for his own rubbish psl league, and how the likes of shehzad and Umar weren't anywhere close to the being top scorers. He even stated how misbah removed fakhar zaman from opening despite solid performance in aus tri series in t20 and being the best batter of psl 2019 scoring the 2nd most no of runs but having the highest avg and sr.

Misbah quickly got aggressive and said that he wasn't asking his right handed batters to bat left handed, and started throwing more excuses such as PSL not being a solid criteria to measure form and why domestic results matter more.

The interviewer then even pointed out how misbah himself said he was selecting based of psl but is now changing the story. And misbah got more aggressive saying the same thing " Dekho aap selector ban jao, Hamere domestic ko bhi to dekho na"

^^ This is on youtube, so you can see the entire interview yourself. The guy caught misbah red handed and exposed how Misbah clearly does not select on merit.
 
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Misbah himself has done this multiple times. After the disastrous Sri Lanka t20 series, the interviewer outright asked Misbah why before he came as a coach Pakistan was ranked no 1, but after he arrived they lost to C team Sri Lanka 3-0.

Misbah went on and on deriving narratives such as how shehzad and Akmal were proven domestic performers and how shadab Khan was the best available spinner in the talent pool and why the likes of Imam, Shehzad, babar were all selected on pure merit.

The interviewer then pointed out how Imam ul haq can't even get selected for his own rubbish psl league, and how the likes of shehzad and Umar weren't anywhere close to the being top scorers. He even stated how misbah removed fakhar zaman from opening despite solid performance in aus tri series in t20 and being the best batter of psl 2019 scoring the 2nd most no of runs but having the highest avg and sr.

Misbah quickly got aggressive and said that he wasn't asking his right handed batters to bat left handed, and started throwing more excuses such as PSL not being a solid criteria to measure form and why domestic results matter more.

The interviewer then even pointed out how misbah himself said he was selecting based of psl but is now changing the story. And misbah got more aggressive saying the same thing " Dekho aap selector ban jao, Hamere domestic ko bhi to dekho na"

^^ This is on youtube, so you can see the entire interview yourself. The guy caught misbah red handed and exposed how Misbah clearly does not select on merit.
@topspin

To put it into perspective, Babar, Fakhar, Shan, Hafeez, haider ali, Kamran Akmal, Sharjeel Khan and Imad wasim were the top scorers of psl 2019 from Pakistan.

All of them avg 27 to 50 with a sr of 130 to 160 depending on the player.

Yet somehow Chacha, Imam and Rizwan made it into side over them.

Chacha Avg 12 with a sr of 121 in psl 2019 🤡
Imam avg 23 with a sr of 123
Ahmed shehzad avg 8 with a sr of 95 🤡
And Umar akmal avg 0 since he played 2 games and got out for a golden duck both times.

Coach to dekho hamara
 
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@topspin

To put it into perspective, Babar, Fakhar, Shan, Hafeez, haider ali, Kamran Akmal, Sharjeel Khan and Imad wasim were the top scorers of psl 2019 from Pakistan.

All of them avg 27 to 50 with a sr of 130 to 160 depending on the player.

Yet somehow Chacha, Imam and Rizwan made it into side over them.

Chacha Avg 12 with a sr of 121 in psl 2019 🤡
Imam avg 23 with a sr of 123
Ahmed shehzad avg 8 with a sr of 95 🤡
And Umar akmal avg 0 since he played 2 games and got out for a golden duck both times.

Coach to dekho hamara
@Major go on son talk about Sifarish now. As @Mohraheem also pointed out that Misbah and his cousin are paving the way for Faham in domestics too. You want to call others who Misbah hates as sifarishi, how hypocritical is that?
 
@Major go on son talk about Sifarish now. As @Mohraheem also pointed out that Misbah and his cousin are paving the way for Faham in domestics too. You want to call others who Misbah hates as sifarishi, how hypocritical is that?
Basically Misbah had Shehzad and Umar Akmal come back in 2019 for 2018 PSL performances where shehzad avg 51 in siad tournament, but he didnt realise that shehzad was literally recalled for sri lanka and dropped again by sarfi.

Psl 2019 took place months before the sri lanka t20 series.

Shehzad, Umar akmal, Imam and Chacha made zero sense given the context of their current psl forms.

Seriously how on earth in 2019 can you have a squad of

1) Babar Azam
2) Ahmed Shehzad
3) Umar Akmal
4) Sarfaraz Ahmed
5) Iftikhar Ahmed
6) Asif Ali
7) Imad wasim
8) Faheem ashraf
9) Shadab Khan
10) Amir
11) Husnain

And expect the captain to win anything? The top 3 will literally depart in less then 6 overs?

No 5 is useless and what is asif ali doing at no 6 😭😭, when he's just supposed to be a no 7?

And the bowling is toothless minus Imad and Amir.

In each game, Pakistan still managed to restrict Sri Lanka to 140 to 160 scores which is standard in t20, but the batting side kept getting out for 100.

That's why we lost. No one can bat in this lineup except for Babar, Sarfi and imad, and neither of these are strikers.

Sarfi's 2018 t20 team was much stronger and overall more balanced.

1) Fakhar
2) Babar
3) Hafeez
4) Hussain Talat
5) Malik
6) Sarfi
7) Imad
8) Asif/ Faheem
9) Hasan Ali
10) Amir
11) Shaheen (Who made his debut in the Australian t20 series)

Mainly cause fakhar can provide starts, Hafeez, malik and talat can bash for a few overs, Babar, Sarfi and imad can rescue if a collapse occurs and the tail enders can all slog a few, Faheem, Hasan and shaheen + Amir to an extent.
 
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