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The Army on Wednesday released the confessional statement of Liaquat Ali, infamously known as Ehsanullah Ehsan, a former spokesperson of the Jamaat-ul-Ahrar (JuA) and Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

The video brought forth some startling revelations, including the claim that the TTP and JuA have been coordinating with Indian and Afghan security agencies to move freely in Afghanistan and have been guided by the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), India's apex spy agency, in infiltrating into Pakistan.

Ehsan, who seems disgruntled by what he terms the self-serving agenda of senior leaders of the TTP and JuA, also says that these organisations have twisted Islam to suit their own ends and are actively looking to recruit young men and women through propaganda and false interpretations of Islam spread through social media.

The Army's spokesman, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, tweeted the following soon after the video was made public:

"RuF. Ehsan Ullah Ehsan exposes hostile foreign agenda & their designs to destabilise Pak. Our youth is our strength, shall never fall prey."

Full transcript of the video
"My name is Liaquat Ali, aka Ehsanullah Ehsan, and I belong to the Mohmand Agency," Ehsan is heard saying at the beginning of the the video.

"I joined the TTP in 2008, when I was a college student."

"I have been a spokesperson for TTP Mohmand, TTP's central division, and the Jamaat-ul-Ahrar," he says. "I have seen a lot in my nine years with these organisations."

"These people have misled people in the name of Islam, especially the youth, for their own ends. They themselves do not hold themselves to the same standards they champion for others."

"A particular group [within them] is responsible for misleading people, kidnapping them and extorting them for money, and murdering innocents," he says. "These people have been behind bombing attacks in public spaces and attacking schools, colleges and universities. This is not what Islam teaches us," he says.

"When the operation in Waziristan kicked off, these people started fighting within themselves for more power and leadership," Ehsan reveals.

"After Hakimullah was killed, a new succession struggle kicked off," Ehsan says. "Separate campaigns were kicked off in support of Omar Khalid Khorasani, [Khan Said] Sajna and Mullah Fazlullah. Everyone wanted power, so a shura decided that there would be a draw of names for who would be leader. This is how Mullah Fazlullah was elected leader of the TTP."

"What can you expect from a leader who was nominated through a lucky draw? And what can you expect from Fazlullah, who married his mentor's daughter by force and took her away. People like him are not fit to serve Islam," he says.

"After the operation in North Waziristan, we fled to Afghanistan," Ehsan continues.

"Over there, we established and developed contacts with India and RAW," Ehsan claims.

"They [the TTP leadership] got their [Indian] support, their funding and took money for every activity they did. They pushed the TTP soldiers to the frontlines to fight against the Pakistan Army and went into hiding themselves," he adds.

"When they started taking help from India and RAW, I told Khorasani that we're supporting the kuffar [non-believers] and helping them kill our own people in our own country."

"He [Khorasani] said: 'Even if Israel wants to fund me to destabilise Pakistan, I will not hesitate in taking their help'."

"At that point, I had figured out that the TTP was functioning according to some sort of agenda that served the self-interest of its leaders."

"These [terrorist] organizations have established committees in Afghanistan through which they communicate and coordinate with RAW. The Indians had given them special documents to help them move around Afghanistan with ease. In Afghanistan, these documents function like Pakistani ID cards."

"Without these documents, it is very difficult for terrorists to move around Afghanistan considering the security situation in that country," Ehsan claims.

"These [terrorists] used to keep in contact with Afghan and Indian security forces before they moved anywhere in the country. They used to grant them passage and guide their infiltration attempts into Pakistan."

"Since Pakistan Army destroyed several Jamaat-ul-Ahrar camps in Parcha and Lalpura and killed many of their commandoes in its ongoing operation, they've had to flee the area and abandon their stronghold. Due to this, the morale of their commanders and their senior leadership has been shaken."

"There are people in those camps who have had enough — who want to quit. I want to send out a message to them."

"Stop what you are doing and adopt the path of peace, and come back to a life of tranquility."

"When these people stopped getting airtime and coverage in media to the ongoing operations, they turned to social media to rope in young people who do not know better," he continues.

"They started misleading them and provoking them using wrong interpretations of Islam. They spread propaganda and statements that could turn young people onto their side."

"I have a message for young people too: these people are fighting only for their selfish designs and are being used by external forces."

"The reasons I have discussed here turned me away from these organisations and motivated me to turn myself over voluntarily to Pakistan Army," concludes his statement.

Read Dawn's editorial on Ehsan's custody here.

'Winning enemies over?'
The director general of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, had announced on April 17 that Ehsan had turned himself in to Pakistan's security agencies.

Right before announcing Ehsan’s surrender, the ISPR chief said that one of the objectives of the counterterrorism operations was to restore the writ of the state and that should be considered a major achievement if those previously indulging in wrongdoing realised that they were on the wrong side.

It is generally believed that Ehsan has been in the military’s custody since the Army responded to a string of terrorist attacks in February, which had been claimed by JuA, by shelling terrorist hideouts along the Pak-Afghan border.

Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa had, while talking to troops during one of his recent visits to military formations, hinted that a high-value target was being held.

Ehsan was believed to have been in hiding in Afghanistan. He was one of the founding figures of JuA, which was formed in August 2014 after splitting from the TTP. JuA is one of the most lethal of TTP’s splinter groups and has been involved in some of the most brutal attacks.

The group carried out about 120 attacks since it was formed nearly three years ago. At one stage JuA had aligned itself with Daesh, the Arabic acronym for the militant Islamic State group. JuA subsequently returned to the TTP fold, but continued to maintain an independent identity. The group launched the so-called operation Ghazi in February that led to spike in terrorist attacks.

Having Ehsan in custody could be invaluable for security agencies given the wealth of information he could have about JuA networks and operations.
 
Well he is confirming what most already know and this is coming from Taliban's former spokesperson. Another confirmation is TTP being used by criminals for their own benefits so they actually fool people by using Islam's name but are actually a criminal gang.
 
This is why it is important that these organisations are monitored strictly by the authorities. If they are given free reign then it's pretty obvious that they are going to be open to the highest bidder. Even a small number of dedicated anti-state terrorists can do a tremendous amount of damage if their bombs are funded by foreign adversaries.
 
India exposed once again in front of the entire World and its credibility keeps diminishing with every passing day.
 
MashaAllah, Pakistani army is great at forcing out "confessions". Lets hope the world takes notice.
 
:yk

World believes India. Not Pakistan.

Only countries that believe Pak are China/NK.

Yes but for how long?

You continue to treat your own people disgracefully. Minorities are being hounded.
Anti Muslim / Beef Eater vilgilanties running rife.
Disgraceful treatment of the Kashmiri's.

Shinning India is suddenyl not looking so bright. Time to take the sun glasses off.
 
Yes but for how long?

You continue to treat your own people disgracefully. Minorities are being hounded.
Anti Muslim / Beef Eater vilgilanties running rife.
Disgraceful treatment of the Kashmiri's.

Shinning India is suddenyl not looking so bright. Time to take the sun glasses off.

Again, only in the eyes of Pakistan.

World believes India. Pak lost what ever credibility it had when Laden was found there after years of lying to the world. Every country knows this.

It will take decades of good will to build trust again. But Pak still harbors international terrorists and many Terrorist organizations still operate from Pak soil.

What India does in Kashmir is its internal matter. It will sort it out. Just like how Pak handles TTP is its own internal matter.
 
Again, only in the eyes of Pakistan.

World believes India. Pak lost what ever credibility it had when Laden was found there after years of lying to the world. Every country knows this.

It will take decades of good will to build trust again. But Pak still harbors international terrorists and many Terrorist organizations still operate from Pak soil.

What India does in Kashmir is its internal matter. It will sort it out. Just like how Pak handles TTP is its own internal matter.

If this was 2009 I would say yes your right, the world does believe India. But not anymore. Now they have simply returned to their indifference just try to avoid the subject. You see, Salala started the whole process, it got worse with the crackdown on the MQM. So those two incidents shut up the anglo americans. CPEC suddenly shut them up even more, now we hear the brits and the everyone else want to invest etc etc. At this moment in time , other than the odd article or hit piece in the WSJ or sometimes the NYT, you hear nothing. No do more, no Pakistan is about to fail, no more books by people who know nothing,..the media in the west couldnt care less.

The one area that India continues to use its insidious influence is in sport and culture. By punishing Pakistani sportsmen. But this year has been a pretty bad one for India in the media. The social media hammering its getting due to its atrocities in kashmir, the attacks against innocent people by cow vigilantes, the attacks on africans. Pakistan is simply happy to be out of the news.
 
Again, only in the eyes of Pakistan.

World believes India. Pak lost what ever credibility it had when Laden was found there after years of lying to the world. Every country knows this.

It will take decades of good will to build trust again. But Pak still harbors international terrorists and many Terrorist organizations still operate from Pak soil.

What India does in Kashmir is its internal matter. It will sort it out. Just like how Pak handles TTP is its own internal matter.

India is a state sponsor of terrorists and supports Daesh. These are now irrefutable. What India does in Kashmir is something all human rights organisations should be concerned about and the media is picking up on it..
 
@TGK, couldnt have put it better myself.

The longer they remain in denial the worse it will get.
 
:yk

World believes India. Not Pakistan.

Only countries that believe Pak are China/NK.

MashaAllah, Pakistani army is great at forcing out "confessions". Lets hope the world takes notice.

Again, only in the eyes of Pakistan.

World believes India. Pak lost what ever credibility it had when Laden was found there after years of lying to the world. Every country knows this.

It will take decades of good will to build trust again. But Pak still harbors international terrorists and many Terrorist organizations still operate from Pak soil.

What India does in Kashmir is its internal matter. It will sort it out. Just like how Pak handles TTP is its own internal matter.



ye 13 log afghanistan may chanay bech rahay thay kiya ? ..... :yk


13 Indians reported killed in U.S. MOAB bombing


http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/13-indians-reported-killed-in-us-bombing/article18115554.ece
 
Indians always bringing OBL in every conversation. He was hiding but that does not mean Pakistan Army or Govt was involved. Show me one official statement of America which says Pakistan was hiding him.
 
India may be supporting these militant groups but the main question is,who is the creator of these groups.Our security establishment considered these groups as strategic assets.They were once our allies and we provided them the safe havens.TTP minded groups are still being used to counter the nationalist parties in Balochistan.The policy of good Taliban vs bad Taliban is still in vogue.Blaming India for everything in Pakistan is a tactic employed to prevent people from asking some harsh questions about the security policy of our armed institution.
Unless and until we give up our policy of using these terrorist organisations as strategic assets,terrorist incidents will continue to happen in Pakistan.
 
ye 13 log afghanistan may chanay bech rahay thay kiya ? ..... :yk


13 Indians reported killed in U.S. MOAB bombing


http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/13-indians-reported-killed-in-us-bombing/article18115554.ece

No. They are Indian Muslims who got brainwashed and joined IS in Afghanistan.

Did you read the article completely?

"Quoting a credible source, the Afghanistan news agency said, “13 Indian Daesh militants were also among those killed in the attack. Daesh commanders Mohammad and Allah Gupta were from India.”"
 
No. They are Indian Muslims who got brainwashed and joined IS in Afghanistan.

Did you read the article completely?

"Quoting a credible source, the Afghanistan news agency said, “13 Indian Daesh militants were also among those killed in the attack. Daesh commanders Mohammad and Allah Gupta were from India.”"

I have read the complete article, and i know more thn you can think of.
the question is, if Indians can reacehd Afghanistan that easily and gt recruited by ISIS, thn thres no question that these people are also involved with TTP....

after Pak army ops , TTP leadership crossed the border and now they are one of the ally with ISIS in afghanistan .....
people need to understand the internal issues of afghanistan as whole ....
 
I have read the complete article, and i know more thn you can think of.
the question is, if Indians can reacehd Afghanistan that easily and gt recruited by ISIS, thn thres no question that these people are also involved with TTP....

after Pak army ops , TTP leadership crossed the border and now they are one of the ally with ISIS in afghanistan .....
people need to understand the internal issues of afghanistan as whole ....

You see some Indian brainwashed Muslims in IS Afghanistan. So assume that they are also part of TTP?

If Indian Muslims are part of IS or TTP, then they are doing it out of craziness. Not on behalf of Govt or RAW.

Unless you mean India is training Jihadis in India and transferring them to Afghanistan :)) Conspiracy theories have no end.
 
India may be supporting these militant groups but the main question is,who is the creator of these groups.Our security establishment considered these groups as strategic assets.They were once our allies and we provided them the safe havens.TTP minded groups are still being used to counter the nationalist parties in Balochistan.The policy of good Taliban vs bad Taliban is still in vogue.Blaming India for everything in Pakistan is a tactic employed to prevent people from asking some harsh questions about the security policy of our armed institution.
Unless and until we give up our policy of using these terrorist organisations as strategic assets,terrorist incidents will continue to happen in Pakistan.

Why would Pakistan create groups that would then be supported by India? What you are saying makes no sense. If they were considered strategic assets, how then did they suddenly become tools for India? You are claiming on the one hand that they are Pakistan strategic assets, then on the other saying that they have become India's assets instead.
 
India may be supporting these militant groups but the main question is,who is the creator of these groups.Our security establishment considered these groups as strategic assets.They were once our allies and we provided them the safe havens.TTP minded groups are still being used to counter the nationalist parties in Balochistan.The policy of good Taliban vs bad Taliban is still in vogue.Blaming India for everything in Pakistan is a tactic employed to prevent people from asking some harsh questions about the security policy of our armed institution.
Unless and until we give up our policy of using these terrorist organisations as strategic assets,terrorist incidents will continue to happen in Pakistan.

TTP was formed around 2006-7 .... and they are bunch of thugs, some of them were school peon or hairdresser etc ....
if a school peon gt 15k to 20k per month without doing anything (except roaming around with Guns and threatening local people) .... thn they will choose to be part of the group .... easy money.
the question is , whos funding thre salaries ( 20k per month) ....
 
You see some Indian brainwashed Muslims in IS Afghanistan. So assume that they are also part of TTP?

If Indian Muslims are part of IS or TTP, then they are doing it out of craziness. Not on behalf of Govt or RAW.

Unless you mean India is training Jihadis in India and transferring them to Afghanistan :)) Conspiracy theories have no end.


if someone can ally with ISIS thn they can also part of TTP in afghanistan .... its not a rocket science to understand .... thats the different case,

now talking about funding TTP and Conspiracy theories ? are you sure ?


India finances trouble in Pakistan - Chuck Hagel


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-financed-problems-for-Pak-in-Afghanistan-says-US-defence-secretary-nominee-Chuck-Hagel/articleshow/18694475.cms

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-financed-problems-for-pakistan-in-afghanistan-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel-514594

and thats what exactly Ajit doval confirms before becoming Indian NSA ....
Indians people (tax payers) and RAW arent bunch of Angels, you have blood of thousands of innocent people in your hands, including the APS kids ....
 
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Pakistan is simply happy to be out of the news.

It has always been out of the news as far as world attention is concerned , apart from those few months in 2011. It will be in the spotlight again when Ayman-Al Zahiri eventually gets captured in Pak by the US , as recent reports suggest.
 
It has always been out of the news as far as world attention is concerned , apart from those few months in 2011. It will be in the spotlight again when Ayman-Al Zahiri eventually gets captured in Pak by the US , as recent reports suggest.

what reports ? share the link with US official statment ....
No BS of western media ....
 
There is no official US statement. That is not how this works , they don't go around yelling 'This is where he is.

okay, fair enough.
as you mentioned above about 2011 , did US said pakistani govt or army was hiding OBL ?
 
I think it is childish of Indians to assume that India isnt creating trouble in Pakistan. Same goes for Pakistanis who think Pakistan doesnt create trouble in India. Its an open secret (not even sure whether to use the word secret).
 
:yk

World believes India. Not Pakistan.

Only countries that believe Pak are China/NK.

The status quo has changed significantly in the last few years, and you are still stuck in time. Today, no one gives a crap when one country accuses another. No one cared when your government accused of Uri, Pathankhot, etc.

Yadav and then this guy just makes it obvious to anyone who still had their head buried in the sand. Now if they still want to keep it buried, it is their choice.

The most important thing to remember is almost no country cares about making other countries believe their story. US, Russia, China, don't care if their story is believed by anyone else, and neither does Pakistan.
 
The status quo has changed significantly in the last few years, and you are still stuck in time. Today, no one gives a crap when one country accuses another. No one cared when your government accused of Uri, Pathankhot, etc.

Yadav and then this guy just makes it obvious to anyone who still had their head buried in the sand. Now if they still want to keep it buried, it is their choice.

The most important thing to remember is almost no country cares about making other countries believe their story. US, Russia, China, don't care if their story is believed by anyone else, and neither does Pakistan.

This is so true in today's scenario. Good post. Nobody cares about anybody. Everyone is on their own except in a select few cases like Israel-Us and Pak-China.
 
okay, fair enough.
as you mentioned above about 2011 , did US said pakistani govt or army was hiding OBL ?

It can't say that out loud because it still needs Pakistan for logistical support for the War on terror. Personally I feel Obama has never visited Pak while in office for 8 years for this and other related reasons.That is interesting to note given Pak is an ally of the US and the huge no. of trips he has made abroad..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_presidential_trips_made_by_Barack_Obama
 
:yk

World believes India. Not Pakistan.

Only countries that believe Pak are China/NK.

Delusional Indians. world do not give a 2 bit about India or their narrative. It is all about money, nothing more and nothing less.
 
Again, only in the eyes of Pakistan.

World believes India. Pak lost what ever credibility it had when Laden was found there after years of lying to the world. Every country knows this.

It will take decades of good will to build trust again. But Pak still harbors international terrorists and many Terrorist organizations still operate from Pak soil.

What India does in Kashmir is its internal matter. It will sort it out. Just like how Pak handles TTP is its own internal matter.

No matter if you are Indian or Pakistani or whatever nationality you hold, you should be realistic and free of any biases. You sound like the most delusional person ever and the only thing I can do is to hope you start seeing the world with the eyes of a normal person.
 
It can't say that out loud because it still needs Pakistan for logistical support for the War on terror. Personally I feel Obama has never visited Pak while in office for 8 years for this and other related reasons.That is interesting to note given Pak is an ally of the US and the huge no. of trips he has made abroad..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_presidential_trips_made_by_B arack_Obama

changing the goal posts now, good...
save this Obama trips BS for your own Indian citizen .... we dont need US, US still need pakistan for the pampers of thre soldiers ....

this is your beloved Obama in india .... :yk

 
Of course India is up to it's neck in making trouble for Pakistan across the Afghan border. That is our problem that we have a pro India PM. Unless a patriot takes charge of Islamabad such things will continue. We are just terrible at diplomacy as well.
 
This is so true in today's scenario. Good post. Nobody cares about anybody. Everyone is on their own except in a select few cases like Israel-Us and Pak-China.

Western countries are with each other, mostly. For example, when US or other western countries make accusations, they usually make joint accusations (i.e. US/UK/Canada/France/Germany jointly making accusations). That gives some people the illusion that "the rest of the world agrees with the US" and gives their voice some force. But the reality is it's just a few countries with common interests agreeing with each other and jerking each other off. These countries don't care if other centers of powers (China, Russia, etc) agree with them or not.

The bharatis are living in another world or another time. Almost all of them talk about this "world believes us" or "world doesn't believe you" nonsense to this day. - as mentioned, that is outdated thinking in modern times. No one cares about accusations these days and no one wants to be part of making a consensus. You have to make accusations and you have to carry out the actions yourself, literally no one cares about your accusations anymore. One would have thought bhartis would have learned this after their accused the Pakistani state in Mumbai attacks, Pathankot, Uri and no one cared about their accusations, but they still keep beating that drum.
 
So will Pakistan do anything about this or just the usual blame game and complete silence after few days?
 
So will Pakistan do anything about this or just the usual blame game and complete silence after few days?

we are already doing things. One of the first things will be to hang the Indian terrorist Yadav. According to the confessions above we have already struck camps in afghanistan and have begun to fence the border. RAW networks within Pakistan are under immense pressure.
 
Open secret.

India will always try to destabilise Pakistan.

Good on Ehsanullah for coming clean.
 
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