Future looking bright for Pakistan in ODIs with a young team in place

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Future looking bright for Pakistan in ODIs:<br>Hasan Ali Age 23<br>Shadab Khan (19)<br>Babar Azam (23)<br>Imam-ul-Haq (21)<br>Faheem Ashraf (23)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/920703957789487104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Mamoon]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

 

[Enigma_]

Still need a lower order hitter. A real match winner. Hafeez is a temporary solution unfortunately. But yes it is looking very solid.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Shadab,Hasan and Babar are the standouts.

Lets see if Imam can cement his place permanently

 

[MenInG]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

"I know we won the CT".... yes we do this every year since 1992.

 

[Mamoon]

"I know we won the CT".... yes we do this every year since 1992.

CT win doesn't indicate long-term success. The team still has plenty of weaknesses that quality teams will exploit.

 

[MenInG]

CT win doesn't indicate long-term success. The team still has plenty of weaknesses that quality teams will exploit.

CT win indicates success and progress. Learn to look at the brightside.

 

[Syed1]

"I know we won the CT".... yes we do this every year since 1992.

Haha good answer


We do have a good side and it is improving day by day

 

[ManFan]

Who knew inducting young blood on merit would suddenly start resulting in wins?

 

[Syed1]

Who knew inducting young blood on merit would suddenly start resulting in wins?

Yeah hard to imagine picking players on merit would have had such a positive impact on the side.

 

[CricFan2012]

Who knew inducting young blood on merit would suddenly start resulting in wins?

Imagine if Misbah and the past management wasn't engulfed in a senior culture, we would've had this resurgence years ago and won a world cup or a t20 world cup.

 

[ManFan]

Imagine if Misbah and the past management wasn't engulfed in a senior culture, we would've had this resurgence years ago and won a world cup or a t20 world cup.

If only. Some people have an eye for talent and others don't. Some take risks while others play it safe. The only player I've been wrong about to this day is Sami Aslam.

 

[nads_rocks]

Young blood is the way forward. Play with no pressure and let the young ones flow BUT they do need senior guidance and only senior I see to guide these new set of players is Shoiab Malik not Mo Hafeez. Malik should stick around in the team he is still fitter than many and is a changed player but yes the team is looking good. Not strong but good and they should just look to improve each game.

 

[babajee]

If only. Some people have an eye for talent and others don't. Some take risks while others play it safe. The only player I've been wrong about to this day is Sami Aslam.

I think Sami will come good in due course

 

[babajee]

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Malik
Fahim
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Rumman

A potential world cup winning side for sure.

 

[Amjid Javed]

CT win indicates success and progress. Learn to look at the brightside.

West indies have won a CT as have new zealand, teams sometimes can have a golden run in a tournaments, lets see how we fare in bilateral series against top sides 1st before getting carried away.

We have good young players coming through but still have passengers and mediocre players like hafeez, malik, azhar ali that need to fazed out if squad or in some cases not picked at all.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

Interesting how India and South Africa are praised left, right and centre after beating this same Sri Lankan team. But when Pakistan does it, 'its just a bad Sri Lanka side after all'. Ghar ki murghi daal barabar scene hai?

 

[Mamoon]

Interesting how India and South Africa are praised left, right and centre after beating this same Sri Lankan team. But when Pakistan does it, 'its just a bad Sri Lanka side after all'. Ghar ki murghi daal barabar scene hai?

India have been a top ODI unit for about 10 years now, and SA have failed to win any tournaments but they have been consistently excellent as well. We have a refurbished side now and have gained some momentum, but tougher tests lie ahead. Unless we start beating teams like Australia, SA, England etc. in series we can't say we have made much progress.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Interesting how India and South Africa are praised left, right and centre after beating this same Sri Lankan team. But when Pakistan does it, 'its just a bad Sri Lanka side after all'. Ghar ki murghi daal barabar scene hai?

Huh? Who praised India for beating this SL side?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

On topic though i haven't been this excited about a Pakistan team since 1999. Plenty of young talented cricketers coming through. For too long Pakistan have played oldies in their team and now it's time to get rid of hafeez as well.

 

[Usman Chadda]

On topic though i haven't been this excited about a Pakistan team since 1999. Plenty of young talented cricketers coming through. For too long Pakistan have played oldies in their team and now it's time to get rid of hafeez as well.

Hafeez new role is refreshing. His selfish nature and ego has been an obstacle in realizing the fact that he is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball in Pakistan cricket today and should play in the middle-lower order. His recent approach and experience makes him a cert for this very young line-up. Fahim Ashraf should be given more exposure. He is a deadly hitter. Leaving alone the Bangladesh innings, I've seen the guy play some insane shots down the order in domestic tournaments.

 

[Sirris]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

At least the youngsters are exciting to watch instead of having to endure same old player's making their n-th come back.

 

[NauV]

Definitely! Encouraging signs . . One of the best things that you can clearly see is the mix of experience and youth . . I see far too many posts on PP that ask for all senior players to be kicked out . . I think their experience is priceless for these youngsters . .

The other thing I am starting to notice is the team really seems to be gelling really well . . they can be seen enjoying each others company . . which makes for a good team environment . . and Pakistan hasn't always had that . .

Fitness, athleticism and professionalism is on the increase . .

Mickey and Sarfaraz should be looking into 2 or 3 things in my opinion:
1.) Obviously, settling down on an opening pair . . hopefully Imam is the answer with Fakhar? we will find out
2.) They need to somehow fit in a hitter at the end . .
3.) Sarfaraz at 6 is a waste of his ability . . Sarfaraz and Hafeez need to swap and be 4 and 6 respectively . . I honestly thing that will give this team a better balance . .

Overall, things look good . . tougher tests lie ahead . . but considering where we were a year ago . . I am glad we are having this conversation . . Defintiely on the right track

 

[da_don]

We do need to give credit where its due, we are getting better but we still need to drop hafeez for harris sohail to solidify the middle order; otherwise team looks solid. we should rotate the pace bowlers between amir, hasan, human and junaid, and rotate imad and fahim depending on pitch and grounds. fakhar zaman needs to improve his game he is limited in his shots and bottles up in pressure.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Hafeez new role is refreshing. His selfish nature and ego has been an obstacle in realizing the fact that he is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball in Pakistan cricket today and should play in the middle-lower order. His recent approach and experience makes him a cert for this very young line-up. Fahim Ashraf should be given more exposure. He is a deadly hitter. Leaving alone the Bangladesh innings, I've seen the guy play some insane shots down the order in domestic tournaments.

Hafeezs new role? What new role is he playing? Hes batting number 4 and done half decent against a SL team thst he enjoys bullying in the UAE. Nothing new about hafeezs game has been shown in recent times, one inns v india in CT final doeant all of a sudden make him a great lower middle order player either

 

[Usman Chadda]

Hafeezs new role? What new role is he playing? Hes batting number 4 and done half decent against a SL team thst he enjoys bullying in the UAE. Nothing new about hafeezs game has been shown in recent times, one inns v india in CT final doeant all of a sudden make him a great lower middle order player either

His approach in the last five games has been much better than the selfish approach from years gone by. He is looking to score from ball one. Not sure why his innings against India is discounted continuously. That was a gun knock in the circumstances. Knocked the stuffing out of India mentally. Look, Hafeez has hogged a spot for a long time definitely, but he is needed in this line-up for his experience. If Malik and Hafeez (who have been performing recently btw) get kicked out now, we will do no better than how we did in the Tests.

 

[Mamoon]

Hafeez always looks good when he is trying to hit the ball. His defensive game is rubbish, but one his day he can hit and time the ball as well as anyone.

 

[Mamoon]

The only casualty at this point should be Junaid. Amir should replace him in the playing XI and Shinwari in the squad. I don't mind Shehzad in the squad, and Azhar doesn't need to come back.

 

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

West indies have won a CT as have new zealand, teams sometimes can have a golden run in a tournaments, lets see how we fare in bilateral series against top sides 1st before getting carried away.

We have good young players coming through but still have passengers and mediocre players like hafeez, malik, azhar ali that need to fazed out if squad or in some cases not picked at all.

What is the relevance of bilateral series? Major KO tournaments are defined by the teams that have the hot hand and perform on the day.

What was Pakistan's bilateral series record post world cup and pre CT?

England hammered us 4-1 in a bilateral tournament a year before CT but in the semis of a KO tournament- they choked.

Pakistan's bilateral series record is irrelevent- the potential with this young side is immense on any given day.

 

[backfootpunch]

When he chucks, he bowls well against all teams and gives Pakistan the opportunity to play another batsman or a fast bowling all-rounder (Fahim, Yamin) instead of Imad, who is also a good option to have. Hafeez gives the team great flexibility when he chucks.

Do you think Shaheen Shah Afridi could be ready for 2019 WC as the 3rd seamer to replace Junaid? My only concern with the current pacers are is that it lacks height and someone who can bowl 145+ (wahab isn't the solution) - just to add to a bit more variety with the seam attack.

 

[90MPH]

When he chucks, he bowls well against all teams and gives Pakistan the opportunity to play another batsman or a fast bowling all-rounder (Fahim, Yamin) instead of Imad, who is also a good option to have. Hafeez gives the team great flexibility when he chucks.

Junaid is also chucking. Still waiting for him to get reported for past 5 years.

I think Hasan should also be investigated - how suddenly he's getting the bounce and pace along with the accuracy.

Hopefully umpires have guts to report these 3 soon.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you think Shaheen Shah Afridi could be ready for 2019 WC as the 3rd seamer to replace Junaid? My only concern with the current pacers are is that it lacks height and someone who can bowl 145+ (wahab isn't the solution) - just to add to a bit more variety with the seam attack.

Pakistan needs another wicket-taking fast bowler. There is too much pressure on Hasan who is world class but is not going to take wickets every game. Amir doesn't seem to have the motivation to give his best unless it is a big game and Junaid is mediocre. Raees is good but is more of a support bowler rather than a strike bowler.

Shinwari is decent but he is not top quality. A good squad option though.

Perhaps Shaheen Afridi could be that strike bowler, but he needs to be drafted soon if he is going to be make an impact in the next World Cup. Hasan Ali became a regular in 2016 and it took him a year to develop into a top bowler, and now is the right time to introduce a new pacer because we have two years to go for the World Cup.

 

[Mamoon]

Junaid is also chucking. Still waiting for him to get reported for past 5 years.

I think Hasan should also be investigated - how suddenly he's getting the bounce and pace along with the accuracy.

Hopefully umpires have guts to report these 3 soon.

You can say what you want, but Hafeez has been clearly chucking during this series. Junaid's action has looked a little better over the last few months, but yes he is still borderline.

 

[90MPH]

You can say what you want, but Hafeez has been clearly chucking during this series. Junaid's action has looked a little better over the last few months, but yes he is still borderline.

Exactly 2 chuckers already identified, Sherlock Mamoon.

What about Hassan ?? And don't forget Imads is also chucking.

No wonder Pakistan have bowling well recently - chucking is the answer.

Please write to the ICC so they tell the umpires to do their job.Thanks.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

You can say what you want, but Hafeez has been clearly chucking during this series. Junaid's action has looked a little better over the last few months, but yes he is still borderline.

I agree with a lot of your points but don't you think your opinion of Junaid has been a bit biased? He certainly was a better bowler in Champions Trophy than Amir. He was taking wickets there, his old zip is back, his action looks a bit better now. Plus he is a smart bowler, knows how to use the field position to his advantage something Amir doesn't do as well. For example, he knows how to get the batsman to pull to the deep midwicket when the fielder is positioned there for that after bowling a few yorkers to create pressure and more often than not he is successful with the wicket column. Swing was never his friend, apart from that series in India in 2012, he has always relied on seam movement off the surface which he is still doing. His pace is a bit down from Champions Trophy, but so is Hasan Ali's and Mohammad Amir's(in the recent Tests). All were continuously touching 140s in England, now they are all bowling around 131-138kph range apart from Rumman who has suddenly shown the ability to swing the new ball and has increased his pace up by a yard or half.

With World Cup in England as well, Junaid should do very well there in my opinion.

 

[Abdullah]

His approach in the last five games has been much better than the selfish approach from years gone by. He is looking to score from ball one. Not sure why his innings against India is discounted continuously. That was a gun knock in the circumstances. Knocked the stuffing out of India mentally. Look, Hafeez has hogged a spot for a long time definitely, but he is needed in this line-up for his experience. If Malik and Hafeez (who have been performing recently btw) get kicked out now, we will do no better than how we did in the Tests.

He is still a limited overs quality off spinner at times whch completes the bowling attack. Million times better than malik at bowling in lois

 

[Mamoon]

Exactly 2 chuckers already identified, Sherlock Mamoon.

What about Hassan ?? And don't forget Imads is also chucking.

No wonder Pakistan have bowling well recently - chucking is the answer.

Please write to the ICC so they tell the umpires to do their job.Thanks.

Hasan, Amir, Raees and Imad are fine. Junaid has a suspect action and Hafeez has been clearly chucking in this series. Again, you can deny it just like you denied Ajmal's chucking before he got suspended. Not to forget that Hafeez has been suspended twice in the past.

 

[Specialisttailender]

Age of strong Pakistani batting is here.

 

[90MPH]

Hasan, Amir, Raees and Imad are fine. Junaid has a suspect action and Hafeez has been clearly chucking in this series. Again, you can deny it just like you denied Ajmal's chucking before he got suspended. Not to forget that Hafeez has been suspended twice in the past.

Instead of moaning about It on a forum why don't you do something about it ??

Write to the ICC so they report this blatant disregard to this wonderful game of cricket. Umpires must be either blind, eaten money to turn the other cheek or just incompetent in doing their job.

Which is it ??

 

[Mamoon]

I agree with a lot of your points but don't you think your opinion of Junaid has been a bit biased? He certainly was a better bowler in Champions Trophy than Amir. He was taking wickets there, his old zip is back, his action looks a bit better now. Plus he is a smart bowler, knows how to use the field position to his advantage something Amir doesn't do as well. For example, he knows how to get the batsman to pull to the deep midwicket when the fielder is positioned there for that after bowling a few yorkers to create pressure and more often than not he is successful with the wicket column. Swing was never his friend, apart from that series in India in 2012, he has always relied on seam movement off the surface which he is still doing. His pace is a bit down from Champions Trophy, but so is Hasan Ali's and Mohammad Amir's(in the recent Tests). All were continuously touching 140s in England, now they are all bowling around 131-138kph range apart from Rumman who has suddenly shown the ability to swing the new ball and has increased his pace up by a yard or half.

With World Cup in England as well, Junaid should do very well there in my opinion.

Junaid had a few good games in the CT but he doesn't look much of a wicket-taking threat. Even in the current series he has not managed to break through the SL batting lineup. He has 2 wickets to Hasan's 9, and that is nowhere near good enough for someone who has the new ball.

Amir bowls with little passion and effort most of the times but when he bends his back, he is more of a wicket-taking threat.

Junaid will be 28 in a couple of months and has years of experience behind him, but it is clear by now that he will never be a world class strike bowler. Just doesn't have the ability and the skill, which means that we should explore other options before going back to him. At best, he can serve as a support bowler, but not as a permanent member of the XI.

 

[Mamoon]

Instead of moaning about It on a forum why don't you do something about it ??

Write to the ICC so they report this blatant disregard to this wonderful game of cricket. Umpires must be either blind, eaten money to turn the other cheek or just incompetent in doing their job.

Which is it ??

They are not blind. They have reported Ajmal and Hafeez in the past and if the latter continues to throw javelins, they will call him again. Like always, people can continue to defend chuckers but the umpires will do their job as they have done in the past.

 

[msb314]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

Agree - the true test will come when we can regularly beat the likes of SAF, NZ, Aus, England etc. at UAE/Pakistan let alone away from home.

Will hold off on joining the hype brigade for now.

 

[msb314]

The only casualty at this point should be Junaid. Amir should replace him in the playing XI and Shinwari in the squad. I don't mind Shehzad in the squad, and Azhar doesn't need to come back.

Bro you are being harsh on Junaid - he has bowled very well since he returned to the side against Aus earlier this year. He is not always amongst the wickets but is very economical. The bowling combo of Amir/Junaid/Hassan and Shadab is working well so no need to change it lol

Sarfraz needs to go but as I discussed in the other thread - there is no practical way of making that happen...

 

[Jabo]

Yes, but every team's future will look bright by playing against this SL side. I know we won the CT etc., but we need to hold our horses before we play the big teams.

Pretty much this

Either we go all crazy with excitement after a game when someone performs

Or we go crazy wanting huge changes after a defeat

Let's just see what happens

 

[MMHS]

I am not sure, how it's going to be an young team in future, if I take 2019 WC as future?

Without injury or major loss of form, these 10 players are certain for WC at the following official age at WC (around)

1. Sarfraz 32
2. MoHa 39
3. Malik 38
4. Azhar 34
5. Babar 25
6. Amir 27
7. Imad 31
8. Fakhar 29
9. Hasan 25
10. Shadab 20

That's average age of 30. If I take 6 more players under 25 (which will never happen), average age can come down to 29. It actually won't come lower than that because even if by some miracle Zeeshan, Talat, Hari, SS Afridi, one young WK & say Yamin & Raja Hasan (instead of Imad) are picked, they are also getting 2 years older. So, the average age will remain most likely around 30, if not over, AND I MUST SAY, Official age. This makes PAK comfortably one of the oldest unit in WC 2019, even considering official age.

This is something I wrote just after CT win - if the team has to go forward, at least 5 players has to be replaced - MoHa, Malik, JK (Wahab), Azhar, Imad from the CT squad - and replaced by players U23 NOW. Only then that team can physically compete for such a tournament. After hitting a SIX, next ball MoHa is fishing around 7th stick, when team is already 2 down and then Malik glides one to WK to make it 4 down in no time - therefore, I am not sure what's experience is for - may be safely guiding team to 209, coming at 150/2 with half the overs remaining ....... And, this is in UAE, not UK.

Most likely, this 5-0 is going to cost PAK a SF spot in 2 years time, unless some people in charge are reading this with proper spirit.

 

[Mainul]

If only. Some people have an eye for talent and others don't. Some take risks while others play it safe. The only player I've been wrong about to this day is Sami Aslam.

No,you are not wrong about Sami.He is a real talent mishandled by Pakistan.Defensive Misbah and Azhar somehow tried to curb his natural game

 

[sam_ahm]

Looks very good indeed. Refreshing to see young new players coming through. We can also add Aamer to the list of youngsters who can play for another 10 years.

I'm sure Pakistan will comeback strongly in the test format as well. Mickey has done a wonderful job with the LOI Team, now needs to give equal attention to tests as well.

 

[ManFan]

No,you are not wrong about Sami.He is a real talent mishandled by Pakistan.Defensive Misbah and Azhar somehow tried to curb his natural game

There was no Misbah or Azhar in charge during the SL test series. He still failed with 1 fifty in six innings. He was slow, failed to inspire, and dare I say a bit cowardly in display. I hope he proves me wrong though.

 

[Mamoon]

Bro you are being harsh on Junaid - he has bowled very well since he returned to the side against Aus earlier this year. He is not always amongst the wickets but is very economical. The bowling combo of Amir/Junaid/Hassan and Shadab is working well so no need to change it lol

Sarfraz needs to go but as I discussed in the other thread - there is no practical way of making that happen...

It is not good enough to be economical with the new ball; you need to take wickets as well, and he has been clearly struggling on that front.

 

[khurram39]

A blend of senior and junior working good. Please continue this for at least next 2 years WC19.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

I am not sure, how it's going to be an young team in future, if I take 2019 WC as future?

Without injury or major loss of form, these 10 players are certain for WC at the following official age at WC (around)

1. Sarfraz 32
2. MoHa 39
3. Malik 38
4. Azhar 34
5. Babar 25
6. Amir 27
7. Imad 31
8. Fakhar 29
9. Hasan 25
10. Shadab 20

That's average age of 30. If I take 6 more players under 25 (which will never happen), average age can come down to 29. It actually won't come lower than that because even if by some miracle Zeeshan, Talat, Hari, SS Afridi, one young WK & say Yamin & Raja Hasan (instead of Imad) are picked, they are also getting 2 years older. So, the average age will remain most likely around 30, if not over, AND I MUST SAY, Official age. This makes PAK comfortably one of the oldest unit in WC 2019, even considering official age.

This is something I wrote just after CT win - if the team has to go forward, at least 5 players has to be replaced - MoHa, Malik, JK (Wahab), Azhar, Imad from the CT squad - and replaced by players U23 NOW. Only then that team can physically compete for such a tournament. After hitting a SIX, next ball MoHa is fishing around 7th stick, when team is already 2 down and then Malik glides one to WK to make it 4 down in no time - therefore, I am not sure what's experience is for - may be safely guiding team to 209, coming at 150/2 with half the overs remaining ....... And, this is in UAE, not UK.

Most likely, this 5-0 is going to cost PAK a SF spot in 2 years time, unless some people in charge are reading this with proper spirit.

do you ever speak positive about Pakistan Cricket?
I can see how conveniently you removed Imam and Rumman's name from the XI
Take a look at how your 'young' BD team is doing in SA its embarassing even for a Pakistani to see them play like this

 

[Madplayer]

Interesting how India and South Africa are praised left, right and centre after beating this same Sri Lankan team. But when Pakistan does it, 'its just a bad Sri Lanka side after all'. Ghar ki murghi daal barabar scene hai?

Its pathetic really.

Sarfaraz's match winning knock against SL im CT was cricticsed by everyone because he was dropped 2 times.

But thranga's 100 the other day was praised as one of the best 100s even though he was also dropped 2 times.

Reminds me of an old saying Dusre ki thali mai laddu bada lagta hai (the Laddu looks bigger in the other guy's plate).

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Pakistan needs another wicket-taking fast bowler. There is too much pressure on Hasan who is world class but is not going to take wickets every game. Amir doesn't seem to have the motivation to give his best unless it is a big game and Junaid is mediocre. Raees is good but is more of a support bowler rather than a strike bowler.

Shinwari is decent but he is not top quality. A good squad option though.

Perhaps Shaheen Afridi could be that strike bowler, but he needs to be drafted soon if he is going to be make an impact in the next World Cup. Hasan Ali became a regular in 2016 and it took him a year to develop into a top bowler, and now is the right time to introduce a new pacer because we have two years to go for the World Cup.

Spot on. I was stating this earlier to friends. Bring in Shaheen.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

It's not about "SL are weak" or "we haven't played strong teams."

It's about the belief and attitude within our team.

We have Faheem as a lower order hitter by the way.

Bring in Shaheen Shah and we have an exciting attack.

Potential XI

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Hafeez/Haris
Malik
Sarfaraz
Faheem
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
Junaid/Shaheen.

 

[tandapanii]

Age is the only factor for a bright future?

Anyway, it has been a good few months for the ODI side and more so than age, we have seen a good combination of skills from bowlers and some rugged batting from the batsmen. I still think, minus Fakhar, the team is lacking in a genuine big hitter. Malik has done the job admirably for almost 2 years but there needs to be someone who is a pure hitter at 6 or 7 or 8.

Is Faheem a good striker?

 

[tandapanii]

It is not good enough to be economical with the new ball; you need to take wickets as well, and he has been clearly struggling on that front.

Since making his comeback, Junaid has played 18 matches and only gone wicket less twice. In 50% of the matches he was not required to finish his quota of overs, so that should be taken into account too. In fact, he hasnt been able to complete his overs since the SL CT match, in which he took 3 wickets. Since then, he has averaged a little over 6 overs per match.

Remember he is coming back from injury AND personal trauma.

Junaid has done fine and I'd be interested in seeing him back in the test side if he can get first class fitness under his belt.

 

[Amjid Javed]

With new ODI league structure been put in place we will soon see how good or bad current ODI team is, at moment we havent beaten any decent side in ODI bilateral series for a while.

 

[Bewal Express]

Pk has always had good young players for 2 reasons; one is that many of them are not all are that young because of fake ages and hence by 28 many of them they are finished and secondly, there isnt that fear in their play that you see after a couple of years in the national team with all its politics etc.
As there careers progress i dont see that desperation to set records or be the best like we see with the Ind players and many are happy to make money and eat a bit too much.

 

[Mamoon]

Since making his comeback, Junaid has played 18 matches and only gone wicket less twice. In 50% of the matches he was not required to finish his quota of overs, so that should be taken into account too. In fact, he hasnt been able to complete his overs since the SL CT match, in which he took 3 wickets. Since then, he has averaged a little over 6 overs per match.

Remember he is coming back from injury AND personal trauma.

Junaid has done fine and I'd be interested in seeing him back in the test side if he can get first class fitness under his belt.

Going wicket-less doesn't make you a wicket-taker, i.e. picking up a wicket or two every now and then does not make you a genuine-wicket-taker. You need bowlers who can run through the opposition and take 4-5 wickets every now and then like Hasan.

There is a good reason why Junaid has never picked up a 5-fer in ODIs and never will. He doesn't have the ability. If he is to stay in the team, he should be a third seamer rather than a new ball bowler.

 

[Mamoon]

Hasan, Amir, Raees and Imad are fine. Junaid has a suspect action and Hafeez has been clearly chucking in this series. Again, you can deny it just like you denied Ajmal's chucking before he got suspended. Not to forget that Hafeez has been suspended twice in the past.

Instead of moaning about It on a forum why don't you do something about it ??

Write to the ICC so they report this blatant disregard to this wonderful game of cricket. Umpires must be either blind, eaten money to turn the other cheek or just incompetent in doing their job.

Awkward.

 

[DRsohail]

Going wicket-less doesn't make you a wicket-taker, i.e. picking up a wicket or two every now and then does not make you a genuine-wicket-taker. You need bowlers who can run through the opposition and take 4-5 wickets every now and then like Hasan.

There is a good reason why Junaid has never picked up a 5-fer in ODIs and never will. He doesn't have the ability. If he is to stay in the team, he should be a third seamer rather than a new ball bowler.

what about giving a chance to shiwrai over junaid..

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what about shinwari.do u rate him..?

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] what about shinwari.do u rate him..?

I think he is a good bowler, but he is not top quality. I would take him over Junaid in the squad, but we need another top class fast bowler to complement Hasan and Amir (when he performs).

 

[CricFan2012]

I think he is a good bowler, but he is not top quality. I would take him over Junaid in the squad, but we need another top class fast bowler to complement Hasan and Amir (when he is motived to perform).

Don't let Ruman Raees last outing affect your views on him, he is a very clever bowling, if an intelligent bowler like Hasan Ali can succeed, then so can Raees.

Raees, Hasan Ali, Amir is an incredible fast bowling combination, tempted to say it may be one of the best of the modern era, but need to see more results

 

[tandapanii]

Going wicket-less doesn't make you a wicket-taker, i.e. picking up a wicket or two every now and then does not make you a genuine-wicket-taker. You need bowlers who can run through the opposition and take 4-5 wickets every now and then like Hasan.

There is a good reason why Junaid has never picked up a 5-fer in ODIs and never will. He doesn't have the ability. If he is to stay in the team, he should be a third seamer rather than a new ball bowler.

Completing your ten overs also helps and this year Junaid has been parts of matches where a full 10 were not required or he was unable because the match ended too quickly.

the type of bowler you described is needed but someone who can tie up an end is also needed and in a team with Hassan, Shadab, Amir/Raees all picking up wickets, Junaid is not the main guy.

 

[Billa86]

Lets hold our horses and analyse this in years time.

 

[babajee]

The future will look extremely bright if the Professor gets banned from bowling

 

[syed abbas]

Future is bright if we get rid of Hafeez and Malik.

 

[MenInG]

Extremely bright!

 

[aukhan]

There is a hope for bright future now that Azhar/Misbah/Waqar are gone.