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Here we go again. Just when someone starts performing, we want him to be the captain. How about letting him play for a while?
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Here we go again. Just when someone starts performing, we want him to be the captain. How about letting him play for a while?
People who are rubbishing the idea of Shan as captain ? Who exactly are the alternatives ?
Most exciting thing about Fakhar is his temperament and attitude; he's down-to-earth, a calm presence and knows how to handle pressure. With these virtues I'm confident he can make it in test cricket and these virtues also automatically clear the prerequisites for captaincy. Excited to see how he does in the upcoming years.
There's a strong chance that it will be between Fakhar or Babar and personally I would give it to Fakhar as he has exactly what your looking for in a captain.
Fakhar or Hasan.
Babar doesn't seem to possess any leadership skills.
Its fairly obvious that Fakhar zamaan should be the next captain.
His on field tactics and player selection policies in domestic tournaments were incredibly good. Consistently gave chances to youngsters and promoted young batsmen up the order. Most importantly he was able to keep nepotism far away from the team somehow.
Fakhar then Shadab.
Came here to post this.
Fakhar Zaman would be my next choice and we should groom shadab as well.
Fakhar Zaman. He has prior experience of successfully captaining at domestic level including the Pakistan Cup and is 28 years old so has the required "seniority" that PCB will want.
He seems a mentally tough chap so hopefully he can handle the added responsibility.
Fakhar and then Shadab.
Fakhar has the character and ability to handle pressure to succeed.
I would make FZ captain until he retires and groom Shadab to lead the team when he is 25-28.
I AGREE with most here. Fakhar is a fearless and selfless guy and would bethe ideal candidate.. He has a lot of the same qualities that Sarfaraz has displayed so far in terms of fearlessness and confidence. I think he will be the likely successor to Sarfaraz, given he keeps up his form and keeps his place in the team.
in mu opinion, atm Fakhar Zaman is the only captaincy material in the team
Fakhar if not yasir Shah.
Babar, Fakhar, Shadab...
Hilarious names being presented. It’s about time this format and leadership is returned back to the educated elite of players. We need a captain/leader. Shan will do a great job
And on what basis Shan deserves captaincy?
Batting well
Hard worker
Great fitness
Good fielder
Speaks well (not that important but still)
Will definitely be an upgrade over Sarfraz
His batting performance has only shown in this series. Isnt this too early to think that hes going to repeat such performances in future as well?
And these are just few of the posts on the first page.
Thank God. Some sanity.
Ironically, the same Fakhar heralded as the new dawn seems totally out of favor after a few innings.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], leadership qualities? Here is proof for your petition.
And these are just few of the posts on the first page.
Thank God. Some sanity.
Ironically, the same Fakhar heralded as the new dawn seems totally out of favor after a few innings.
Education helps in every aspect of life, more so in cricket which is extremely complex, tactical and slow burning game. Also, in most (every actually) other team games, it's the coach who masterminds the formation, strategy, tactics, substitution and timeouts - in cricket it's all about Captain once in the field, coach can send tips via 12th man, but still Captain has to understand that and communicate to his players.
Shan is a brilliant reader of the game - this one I wrote during his 125 against SRL; he knew exactly what YK was trying to do and achieve, played a perfect 2nd hand to that plan; even Babar would have made a silly mistake and left the kitchen half-cooked.
Latest article on his batting development actually suggests the guy is an extremely good reader of the game, and a keen listener - most of the PAK players won't even bother to read that. I am certain now - if PCB is to make best use of professional coaches in terms of game tactics and planning, they have to appoint someone who has the ability to absorb (education isn't a must, but ability to receive a tactical input is a personality trait - MSD left school at 9th grade ...).
Once more - Shan for Test Captain.
People who are rubbishing the idea of Shan as captain ? Who exactly are the alternatives ?
Will the PCB make him captain?
Thats not the right way of looking at things. The better questions is, what makes Shan a good candidate? His two 60-run innings?
Also how many domestic sides (and how many times) has he captained? What experience does he have? Or does Pak National team provide on the job training?
Education helps in every aspect of life, more so in cricket which is extremely complex, tactical and slow burning game. Also, in most (every actually) other team games, it's the coach who masterminds the formation, strategy, tactics, substitution and timeouts - in cricket it's all about Captain once in the field, coach can send tips via 12th man, but still Captain has to understand that and communicate to his players.
Shan is a brilliant reader of the game - this one I wrote during his 125 against SRL; he knew exactly what YK was trying to do and achieve, played a perfect 2nd hand to that plan; even Babar would have made a silly mistake and left the kitchen half-cooked.
Latest article on his batting development actually suggests the guy is an extremely good reader of the game, and a keen listener - most of the PAK players won't even bother to read that. I am certain now - if PCB is to make best use of professional coaches in terms of game tactics and planning, they have to appoint someone who has the ability to absorb (education isn't a must, but ability to receive a tactical input is a personality trait - MSD left school at 9th grade ...).
Once more - Shan for Test Captain.
Education helps in every aspect of life, more so in cricket which is extremely complex, tactical and slow burning game. Also, in most (every actually) other team games, it's the coach who masterminds the formation, strategy, tactics, substitution and timeouts - in cricket it's all about Captain once in the field, coach can send tips via 12th man, but still Captain has to understand that and communicate to his players.
Shan is a brilliant reader of the game - this one I wrote during his 125 against SRL; he knew exactly what YK was trying to do and achieve, played a perfect 2nd hand to that plan; even Babar would have made a silly mistake and left the kitchen half-cooked.
Latest article on his batting development actually suggests the guy is an extremely good reader of the game, and a keen listener - most of the PAK players won't even bother to read that. I am certain now - if PCB is to make best use of professional coaches in terms of game tactics and planning, they have to appoint someone who has the ability to absorb (education isn't a must, but ability to receive a tactical input is a personality trait - MSD left school at 9th grade ...).
Once more - Shan for Test Captain.
People who are rubbishing the idea of Shan as captain ? Who exactly are the alternatives ?
If Shan is being considered as next Captain, he should Captain Multan in PSL-4. That can be a litmus for PCB and Shan.
Brilliantly said.
I'd just add one more thing, Shan is also from Karachi so if a Karachi captain gets replaced by another Karachi Captain, he has less chance of becoming target of vicious Karachi Media Mafia and Ex cricketers from Karachi who are always taregtting a non karachi Captain or Coach.
So a good thing for Pak cricket.
Brilliantly said.
I'd just add one more thing, Shan is also from Karachi so if a Karachi captain gets replaced by another Karachi Captain, he has less chance of becoming target of vicious Karachi Media Mafia and Ex cricketers from Karachi who are always taregtting a non karachi Captain or Coach.
So a good thing for Pak cricket.
I'm gonna stick to my words because a) I don't tend to have knee-jerk reactions like you and b) Fakhar has a long career ahead of him. He will have time to work out his technique for test cricket and a few failures in a country (that is generally considered to be the toughest place to bat) will only serve as a foot-note a few year from now.
If Shan is being considered as next Captain, he should Captain Multan in PSL-4. That can be a litmus for PCB and Shan.
If Shan is being considered as next Captain, he should Captain Multan in PSL-4. That can be a litmus for PCB and Shan.
Doesn’t matter at all - Captaincy in T20 & other formats are totally different. You can follow PAK’s latest Captain in 3 formats for a sanity check. Also, MS is an individual entity from PCB - they can’t & shouldn't force MS to appoint their Captain.
Besides, I can confidently say that experience of captaining domestic sides has very little to do with how one is going to lead his side at highest level. It helps probably to explain better (for the people appointing the Captain) - why & how someone is “groomed” to Captaincy; but a decade of domestic Captaincy doesn’t ensure a good leader. Imran was made Captain at 29 without any prior experience as pro cricketer (led Oxford in his last year), neither Pataudi, who was made Captain at 21 years 77 days, after Contractor was hit (almost died) by a Griffith bouncer. Opposite spectrum is Sarfraz, who has been PCB’s Captain from probably U7 level
Just throw the right personality into deep waters - those who can, will learn to swim, those who can’t, will forget swimming being scared of the situation. Shan has the right persona, so has Amir (I am telling it again), but for Test, appointing a fast bowler, not so famous for endurance & fitness is risky - Amir should be made ODI & T20 Captain; Shan Test Captain. Don’t mind Babar to be deputy in both or FZ deputy of Amir in LOs.
So in short...if he does well for a frenchise in his 1st year under a new leadership in a T20 competition. That is what he needs to do to become Captain of the test team and if his Captaincy results for Multon in a T20 tournament are not getting Multan great results then he is NOT right person for captaining in Test? Brilliant
Agreed. As usual on PP there's a lot of knee jerk reactions with Fakhar being the latest victim this time round.
He has the mental endurance and the drive to be a successful batsman - just needs a few tweaks in his technical deficiencies. The same posters wanting him dropped ought to be reminded that he looked very shaky in his first LOI matches 2 years ago (just prior to the CT) against the WI but was able to overcome those struggles and deliver on the big stage when it mattered. How many Pakistani batsman have performed in ICC knockout matches with clutch knocks in the last 20 years? Even some of the LOI greats such as Inzy, Saeed Anwar and co choked in the mid to late 90s and 2000s when the stakes were high.
In addition he is statistically the best opener in Pakistan - if we go by his impressive FC stats averaging in excess 40 at a dynamic strike rate of over 60.
Shan and Fakhar should be the front runners for the captaincy roles. I would have the former captaining the test side and the latter leading the LOIs.
I'm sure Shan Masood will seal a spot in the ODIs, so he could become all format captain if Fakhar fails in this regard.
I dont like the idea of one captain for all formats.
Lets have a separate captain for the mickey mouse T20s.
For example somebody like Shan Masood can be tried as a captain in ODIs and tests.
In T20s we can make Hasan Ali the captain.
Leave Sarfaraz as skipper in T20I's. Don't fix something that isn't broke
But it will eventually break. The T20 team is in a bubble right now, a bubble that will burst soon.
One T20 series with India today anywhere in the world will expose the true worth of this average T20 outfit. Similarly, a series with England would have similar repercussions.
Yes we beat them in 2016, but that was just one game.
At best, this team is a distant third in T20s after India and England.
However, it is obviously unrealistic to hope that Sarfraz will get sacked. At the end of the day, we are still number one regardless of how artificial and misleading the ranking is.
We will wait till the wheels come off like in the other formats to make a move. Nevertheless, I disagree with the notion of having different captains for ODIs and T20s.
In today’s era, your ODI and T20 squads should be pretty much identical with the exception of 1-2 players. If most of your T20 players are not cut for ODIs, you will not have a good ODI team and vice versa.
As a result, it makes no sense to have different captains when 90% of the personnel are the same.
But it will eventually break. The T20 team is in a bubble right now, a bubble that will burst soon.
One T20 series with India today anywhere in the world will expose the true worth of this average T20 outfit. Similarly, a series with England would have similar repercussions.
Yes we beat them in 2016, but that was just one game.
At best, this team is a distant third in T20s after India and England.
However, it is obviously unrealistic to hope that Sarfraz will get sacked. At the end of the day, we are still number one regardless of how artificial and misleading the ranking is.
We will wait till the wheels come off like in the other formats to make a move. Nevertheless, I disagree with the notion of having different captains for ODIs and T20s.
In today’s era, your ODI and T20 squads should be pretty much identical with the exception of 1-2 players. If most of your T20 players are not cut for ODIs, you will not have a good ODI team and vice versa.
As a result, it makes no sense to have different captains when 90% of the personnel are the same.
I agree with most of your points but even so, I don't think Sarfaraz is a problem for us in T20's anyway. It's just the fact we have too many accumulators and not many people capable of taking the game away like England have Buttler, India have Kohli etc, Sarfaraz is fine in T20I's, and even if we were to lose a few series, I doubt he'd be to blame.
Babar in all 3 formats
Imad Wasim ODI and T20
Shan Masood Test
Hafeez until world cup and Babar after that. I'm a firm believer that the captain should be someone who is the first name of team sheet and there's no one better than Babar for Pakistan. However, Babar is too crucial to gamble with just before the world cup so I will give it to experienced pro like Hafeez.
ODI and Test - Imam ul Haq
T20 - Imad Wasim
Nope, let him just bat.
Imad? The same guy that got dropped in the previous match?
Imam ul haq? On what Basis?
Why was he dropped? For that dud Talat??