Gary Sobers or Sachin Tendulkar?

[aarizzler720]

Two of the greatest cricketers ever, and probably two batters in the contention for the best after Bradman, Tebdulkar arguably the most consistent batter ever, mantained 60+ avg for decades, Gary Sobers maybe you can say he was the greatest cricketer ever, He could do everything bowl, bat, field, you say he does it?, Who do you think is a better batsman and who'd you pick to play for your team?

 

[Local.Dada]

I will go with Shivam Dube who as attributes of both

 

[Ab Fan]

Sobers greater cricketer and best since Bradman.

Tendulkar is same level to Hobbs.

 

[Josh]

Clear choice! I'd pick Sachin Tendulkar as Gary Sobers is too old(89 yrs) now.

 

[shaz619]

Sobers could do everything, he could bat, he could bowl both wrist / finger spin & medium pace, an outstanding fielder to and his leadership skills are overlooked to - he won series in England & Australia.

Easily one of the greatest sportsman in history, it’s more fitting to compare him with legends in other sports to level the playing field a bit because he conquered the sport of cricket emphatically.

 

[Suleiman]

Sobers.

I know it’s surprising even from The Last Unbiased Fan, but it’s true. Honest opinion based on performance alone, no emotion or motives.

 

[cricketjoshila]

As a batsman Tendulkar

As a AR sirgary

 

[Cric1234]

It is interesting to see Sobers first years in international cricket were against some players who overlapped from the Bradman era... But he struggled initially as a young batsman against these players so players Bradman played against Sobers also played with these players.... His career took of after the triple hundred against Pakistan whom Bradman never faced... Sobers continued until the 70s when he was scoring well against the likes of Lillee which means Bradman must have been an exceptional batsman.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Batsman - Sobers
Bowler - Sobers
Fielder - Sobers
Human Being - Sobers

 

[Josh]

Sobers.

I know it’s surprising even from The Last Unbiased Fan, but it’s true. Honest opinion based on performance alone, no emotion or motives.

Gary won the BBC Sportsman of the year award defeating boxer Mohammed Ali and another famous athelete. Heard it from Jarrod Kimber in talksports

 

[charlie007]

Useless comparison - but change their nationality and see how poor Sobers was as an all rounder and how much better Tendulkar was than Bradman!

 

[shaz619]

Useless comparison - but change their nationality and see how poor Sobers was as an all rounder and how much better Tendulkar was than Bradman!

Grow up insecure 0.1 incher, we’re talking Sobers here & not Marlon Samuels, but you probably don’t know the difference.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Grow up insecure 0.1 incher, we’re talking Sobers here & not Marlon Samuels, but you ugly & racist heathen probably don’t know the difference.

Hate to ruin your point bro because it is a good one but legit id still take Samuels over Tendulkars.

A tough and hardened cricketer Vs a ball tamperer, perjurer and meek and mild stat padder.

Samuels wins ( this is just my professional opinion, other opinions may vary)

 

[shaz619]

Gary won the BBC Sportsman of the year award defeating boxer Mohammed Ali and another famous athelete. Heard it from Jarrod Kimber in talksports

I think Sobers was the only cricketer to win the ‘international’ award? Pretty insane that he beat Ali who I think is a record holder with the award @KingKhanWC

 

[shaz619]

Hate to ruin your point bro because it is a good one but legit id still take Samuels over Tendulkars.

A tough and hardened cricketer Vs a ball tamperer, perjurer and meek and mild stat padder.

Samuels wins ( this is just my professional opinion, other opinions may vary)

I can’t dispute that, Samuels also has crunch knocks which yielded trophies

 

[Major]

As a Cricketer: Sobers
As a Good Ball Temperer: Tendulkar
As a Witness for a Racism Case: Tendulkar
As a Hockey Tweet Expert: Tendulkar


Guy gives us hockey news, even during India-Pakistan CT Final. A very dedicated hockey fan

 

[Major]

In all seriousness, while I enjoy a good old Tendu bashing thread, but a better topic of discussion would had been Sobers vs Kallis

 

[Local.Dada]

In all seriousness, while I enjoy a good old Tendu bashing thread, but a better topic of discussion would had been Sobers vs Kallis

It doesn’t connect the same way anymore. As you can see once upon a time people got outraged when I called Imran batting similar to Misbah. I wasn’t even trolling. Same style batting. I think they are relatives too. People got that touchy. Today a news comes out he lost an eye and his biggest fans are happier discussing elections in Maharashtra or something lol.

Fans move on.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer after Bradman. That settles it.

Sobers is up there though. One of the best ever.

Tendulkar’s resume however is mouth watering. No one in the history of the game, not even Bradman, has played that good for that long and against that variety of bowling greats across generations.

 

[aarizzler720]

As aan batsman Tendulkar

As a AR sirgary

I mea, Tendulkar as a pure better can be called better than Sobers 60+ avg for 20 years, though as a cricker, Sobers might be best since Bradman, heck poeple have said that: "Bradman's the best batter, Sober's the best cricketer", but in terms of pure batting tendukar might be the best ever.

 

[aarizzler720]

Useless comparison - but change their nationality and see how poor Sobers was as an all rounder and how much better Tendulkar was than Bradman!

Tendulakr tbf is for me is the best after Bradman, alongside Hobbs, a bit above Gary Sobers too, though Sobers is the greatest all rounder ever,

 

[aarizzler720]

In all seriousness, while I enjoy a good old Tendu bashing thread, but a better topic of discussion would had been Sobers vs Kallis

I'm comparing in terms of batting, and the best cricketer and batter after Bradman comparison imo, I think it's close but yeah Sobers vs Kallis would've also been great

 

[Cric1234]

Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer after Bradman. That settles it.

Sobers is up there though. One of the best ever.

Tendulkar’s resume however is mouth watering. No one in the history of the game, not even Bradman, has played that good for that long and against that variety of bowling greats across generations.

Only Bradman has ever averaged close to 100 throughout his career without a bad season in tests and first class cricket no other player even comes close on stats alone.

 

[charlie007]

Tendulakr tbf is for me is the best after Bradman, alongside Hobbs, a bit above Gary Sobers too, though Sobers is the greatest all rounder ever,

You’re comparing a pure batter with the best ever all rounder. Additionally, like I have always maintained, comparison across eras is a moot exercise. It will always be opinionated and biased depending on who you ask.

 

[Major]

Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer after Bradman. That settles it.

Sobers is up there though. One of the best ever.

Tendulkar’s resume however is mouth watering. No one in the history of the game, not even Bradman, has played that good for that long and against that variety of bowling greats across generations.

salaaa.

tendu per party badaldee

@DeadlyVenom

 

[DeadlyVenom]

salaaa.

tendu per party badaldee

@DeadlyVenom

It is red line for Indians lol it was at this point he couldn't pretend to be Pakistani

 

[sithb]

Sobers.

 

[aarizzler720]

You’re comparing a pure batter with the best ever all rounder. Additionally, like I have always maintained, comparison across eras is a moot exercise. It will always be opinionated and biased depending on who you ask.

yeah you're right about that

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think Sobers was the only cricketer to win the ‘international’ award? Pretty insane that he beat Ali who I think is a record holder with the award @KingKhanWC

I thought he beat Ali to win the award in 1966. Huge achievement no doubt but Ali was peak in 66, having 22-0 record, winning 5 fights inc beating legends such as Henry Cooper . There was nobody close to him in world sports but maybe something was brewing as next year 67 , Ali refused to be a part of the Vietnam war .

Sobers grew up watching an all white skinned West Indies team . He was the real first West Indian superstar, could do it all on the field . It’s tough to judge eras but many have him as the Goat still now .

 

[Suleiman]

salaaa.

tendu per party badaldee

@DeadlyVenom

Tendu and Modi have the Winter Soldier effect on him and snap him back to Vijay Kumar from Waleed Khan.

 

[Bhaijaan]

salaaa.

tendu per party badaldee

@DeadlyVenom

It is red line for Indians lol it was at this point he couldn't pretend to be Pakistani

Tendu and Modi have the Winter Soldier effect on him and snap him back to Vijay Kumar from Waleed Khan.

Being a Pakistani doesn’t stop me from being honest. I don’t troll Indians like you all. I come here to be brutally honest and say things that might be uncomfortable but still they’re facts.

Cheers guys.

 

[Major]

Being a Pakistani doesn’t stop me from being honest. I don’t troll Indians like you all. I come here to be brutally honest and say things that might be uncomfortable but still they’re facts.

Cheers guys.

Good enuff for me

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Faheem twitterchamp Ashraf

 

[aarizzler720]

Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer after Bradman. That settles it.

Sobers is up there though. One of the best ever.

Tendulkar’s resume however is mouth watering. No one in the history of the game, not even Bradman, has played that good for that long and against that variety of bowling greats across generations.

Yeah tendulkar for me is a solid contender for the best since bradman imo:
Tendulkar:

- Prodigy and centuries away from home as a teen
- Better tested over conditions and high class bowlers
- Maintained consistency across a very long career, reaching no.1 in one peak and then again in another peak a decade later
- Near flawless technique combined with a high level of nous to adapt his game

 

[Hitman]

Sir Garfield Sobers is the greatest cricketer of all time, and the entire cricketing world says that. However, as a batsman alone my pick would be Sachin Tendulkar. Wisden agrees with me as well who rated the latter the second greatest Test and ODI batsman ever in 2002.

Wisden rates Tendulkar second best - Times of India

Cricket News: NEW DELHI: Cricket’s Bible, Wisden, has rated batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar as the second greatest Test batsman ever, behind the legendary Sir Don

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[sweep_shot]

Sobers definitely.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Yeah tendulkar for me is a solid contender for the best since bradman imo:
Tendulkar:

- Prodigy and centuries away from home as a teen
- Better tested over conditions and high class bowlers
- Maintained consistency across a very long career, reaching no.1 in one peak and then again in another peak a decade later
- Near flawless technique combined with a high level of nous to adapt his game

Everybody knows about his stats.
But nothing beats the eye test for a purist. The best pure batsman ever followed closely by Lara. The range, the timing, the elegance he had it all. Tendulkar and Lara only differ in the fact that what Lara does cannot be taught. He was an artist. Tendulkar is a living batting manual. Everything about his batting was batting manual perfection.

 

[Suleiman]

Everybody knows about his stats.
But nothing beats the eye test for a purist. The best pure batsman ever followed closely by Lara. The range, the timing, the elegance he had it all. Tendulkar and Lara only differ in the fact that what Lara does cannot be taught. He was an artist. Tendulkar is a living batting manual. Everything about his batting was batting manual perfection.

RAW agents at HQ in Mumbai rn listening in on Agent Vijay blowing his cover as a Pakistani just to defend Sachin:

 

[aarizzler720]

Sir Garfield Sobers is the greatest cricketer of all time, and the entire cricketing world says that. However, as a batsman alone my pick would be Sachin Tendulkar. Wisden agrees with me as well who rated the latter the second greatest Test and ODI batsman ever in 2002.

Wisden rates Tendulkar second best - Times of India

Cricket News: NEW DELHI: Cricket’s Bible, Wisden, has rated batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar as the second greatest Test batsman ever, behind the legendary Sir Don

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

yeah Don Bradman himself rated that Sobers is the best cricketer ever, heck poeple even say that Bradman's the greatest batter and Sober's the greatest cricketer that's insane imo, and yeah Don also rated Tendulkar as the closest batter someone who reminded about the don himself , so yeah as a cricketer sobers easily, as a pure batter it's tendulkar

 

[Bhaijaan]

RAW agents at HQ in Mumbai rn listening in on Agent Vijay blowing his cover as a Pakistani just to defend Sachin:
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I don’t show my Pakistaniyat by making dumb and dishonest posts bro. It brings a bad name to our deen and your nation.

 

[Suleiman]

I don’t show my Pakistaniyat by making dumb and dishonest posts bro. It brings a bad name to our deen and your nation.

Not sure what you mean by “your” bro, I am nationless. Keep in mind you are speaking to The Last Real Free Agent.

 

[aarizzler720]

RAW agents at HQ in Mumbai rn listening in on Agent Vijay blowing his cover as a Pakistani just to defend Sachin:
View attachment 163209

I don’t show my Pakistaniyat by making dumb and dishonest posts bro. It brings a bad name to our deen and your nation.

not sure you cans till be a pakistani and rate tendulakr ahead lol

 

[Suleiman]

not sure you cans till be a pakistani and rate tendulakr ahead lol

I don’t rate him ahead and I’m unbiased as I don’t claim to be Pakistani or support PCT. Sobers was sport defining, and there may not be many who may even know Sachin is in in my vicinity so you know I’m keeping it real as I know who and what Sachin is

 

[aarizzler720]

I don’t rate him ahead and I’m unbiased as I don’t claim to be Pakistani or support PCT. Sobers was sport defining, and there may not be many who may even know Sachin is in in my vicinity so you know I’m keeping it real as I know who and what Sachin is

yeah sobers was special, whether in bating, bbowling and fielding and it's not like he was'nt consistent he avg 60+ for a long time, Tendulkar definitely lacked monster series for one. I think Sobers' 254 against Lillee is the sort of innings I dont think any other batsman could play in cricket history.

 

[Suleiman]

yeah sobers was special, whether in bating, bbowling and fielding and it's not like he was'nt consistent he avg 60+ for a long time, Tendulkar definitely lacked monster series for one. I think Sobers' 254 against Lillee is the sort of innings I dont think any other batsman could play in cricket history.

Tendulkar was too much of a nice guy. He never had that dark side and monster within. It’s why he got overshadowed by later Indians like Kohli as well with a dark side.

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

 

[charlie007]

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

You meant when Tendulkar scored 52 at 108 strike rate in the only India-Pak game that India won riding on Kohli’s 183? If a 52 is considered low for the man, he must be someone very special.


https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...a-vs-pakistan-5th-match-535798/full-scorecard

 

[Bhaijaan]

Tendulkar was too much of a nice guy. He never had that dark side and monster within. It’s why he got overshadowed by later Indians like Kohli as well with a dark side.

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

He literally destroyed our bowling line up in 2003 world cup.

 

[Suleiman]

He literally raped our bowling line up in 2003 world cup.

I’m so sorry to hear that, is that why Nehra was cussing at Dhoni in that ODI vs Pak a year or two later? Can’t imagine what SRT must have put him through in that locker room.

Hope I’m interpreting the real “our” this time

 

[Romali_rotti]

Reading some comments here Yikes. Tendulkar still living rent free in so man Pakistani lives..

 

[Ab Fan]

Tendulkar was too much of a nice guy. He never had that dark side and monster within. It’s why he got overshadowed by later Indians like Kohli as well with a dark side.

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

Lol the obsession with people having darker side. You must be having Undertaker as your favourite character.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

I am not a fan of comparing players from different eras, especially comparing a batsman with an all-rounder.
Sobers should have been compared with Kallis, Imran Khan, Kapil, etc.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Tendulkar was too much of a nice guy. He never had that dark side and monster within. It’s why he got overshadowed by later Indians like Kohli as well with a dark side.

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

When did this happen?

 

[Suleiman]

Lol the obsession with people having darker side. You must be having Undertaker as your favourite character.

No he’s too much of a nice guy as well. Sachin needed to be like Jon Jones- a legend of his sport.

 

[Romali_rotti]

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[Romali_rotti]

It is time SRT is declared the owner of Pakistanis, he owns them like no other, permanently living their minds and causing them to behave like loony toones.

The real Dhurandar is SRT...

 

[Hitman]

It is time SRT is declared the owner of Pakistanis, he owns them like no other, permanently living their minds and causing them to behave like loony toones.

The real Dhurandar is SRT...

What matters is what the cricket fraternity believes and considers, not what random no named nobodies from Pakistan believes.​

 

[Romali_rotti]

What matters is what the cricket fraternity believes and considers, not what random no named nobodies from Pakistan believes.​

I feel Pakistanis in Pakistan are overall all right, it's the Britstanis that are mostly always without their heads switched on...

 

[Josh]

A better thread idea: Shahid Afridi vs Gary Sobers. Both are great all rounders

 

[Romali_rotti]

A better thread idea: Shahid Afridi vs Gary Sobers. Both are great all rounders

Don't insult Afridi.

Sobers is not fit to even hold Afridi's batting kit.

 

[shaz619]

A better thread idea: Shahid Afridi vs Gary Sobers. Both are great all rounders

Don't insult Afridi.

Sobers is not fit to even hold Afridi's batting kit.

some ppl are bringing Afridi into this debate because that’s Sobers level now apparently,

 

[Cric1234]

A better thread idea: Shahid Afridi vs Gary Sobers. Both are great all rounders

Afridi made a 100 of 36 balls which Sobers didn't so Afridi wins.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Tendulkar was too much of a nice guy. He never had that dark side and monster within. It’s why he got overshadowed by later Indians like Kohli as well with a dark side.

It’s sad because he had talent for sure, I will be the first to admit. His last 50 over and tournament appearance ended with Saeed Ajmal ending his OD career in 2012 Asia Cup , it was so anticlimactic because neutral and Indian fans were all waiting for a big innings from him. But Ajmal was relentless- I’m not even an ajmal fan.

Lol ball tampering, affairs, tax doging and perjury, alongside betraying naive childhood friends, how much more dark side you want?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

yeah sobers was special, whether in bating, bbowling and fielding and it's not like he was'nt consistent he avg 60+ for a long time, Tendulkar definitely lacked monster series for one. I think Sobers' 254 against Lillee is the sort of innings I dont think any other batsman could play in cricket history.

You take what you have said and add his bowling and Sobers clears Tendulkar.

 

[kron]

Sobers could do everything, he could bat, he could bowl both wrist / finger spin & medium pace, an outstanding fielder to and his leadership skills are overlooked to - he won series in England & Australia.

Easily one of the greatest sportsman in history, it’s more fitting to compare him with legends in other sports to level the playing field a bit because he conquered the sport of cricket emphatically.

Yep. Overall sobers easy

Same with kallis over Tendulkar

Only pure batsman I can put above sobers for me is smith.

 

[Suleiman]

Lol ball tampering, affairs, tax doging and perjury, alongside betraying naive childhood friends, how much more dark side you want?

Sachin was a good guy, all of those were honest mistakes, ask any Indian.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Batsman - Sobers
Bowler - Sobers
Fielder - Sobers
Human Being - Sobers

You must be at someone's HIT list now

 

[kron]

Lol ball tampering, affairs, tax doging and perjury, alongside betraying naive childhood friends, how much more dark side you want?

Womaniser with lot of affairs. I don’t have evidence but many say it’s true.

Yuvi,Bhaji, all of them

Pandya we already know lol.

All those players back then including dravid who everyone believed is a saint had escorts. Plenty.

 

[chakdeindian]

Any comparison thread is incomplete without Babar Azam..please add Bobsy too in the comparison..

 

[BouncerGuy]

No need to do such comparisons... These threads have no end. You will find people on both sides.... Both were great players... Period

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Sobers could do everything, he could bat, he could bowl both wrist / finger spin & medium pace, an outstanding fielder to and his leadership skills are overlooked to - he won series in England & Australia.

Easily one of the greatest sportsman in history, it’s more fitting to compare him with legends in other sports to level the playing field a bit because he conquered the sport of cricket emphatically.

he also did well as a coach in developing jobber sides like SL and Windies of 2005 to a better team.

meanwhile the midget hasn't done any coaching because he can't give any advices to batters, bowlers because his advices are only related to midget height cricketers.

 

[Suleiman]

In all seriousness there are certain innings that remind me of vintage Sachin of the 90s. It’s a very unique trailblazing style.

I may have been thinking during the last test series Pakistan played vs England in UAE when Shoaib Showstopper Malik was beating down the England attack on his merry way to a double ton that he was giving a similar vibe to Sachin in a way Alastair Cook couldn’t even though he too scored 200+ that game.

 

[Hitman]

2 guys who have said in the past that Sobers is the best batsman they have ever seen are Ian Chappell And Geoffrey Boycott.

 

[Hitman]

 

[aarizzler720]

2 guys who have said in the past that Sobers is the best batsman they have ever seen are Ian Chappell And Geoffrey Boycott.

talented player people say he could change games in a session

 

[sithb]

Sobers should have been compared with Kallis, Imran Khan, Kapil, etc.

Sobers is the best cricketer of all time. There's nothing to debate there.

The point of whether pure batsmen like Sachin , Lara , Viv , Bradman among many others are better batsmen than Sobers the batsman. That's subjective and that's something that can be discussed.

But as a pure cricketer , he's above everyone.