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Glenn Maxwell announces retirement from ODI cricket

mominsaigol said:
@Hyder @jeeteshssaxena

Its 5:22 am, im tired and yet im still owning you both. Its my specialty to destroy.
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U are just owning baseless views about cricket. Not a single sensible cricketer ll ever say maxwell is better than stokes because of his fc record and t20s. Periodt.

Han ap jeet gaye if it helps u sleep as i am concerned about my patients
 
Hyder said:
U are just owning baseless views about cricket. Not a single sensible cricketer ll ever say maxwell is better than stokes because of his fc record and t20s. Periodt.

Han ap jeet gaye if it helps u sleep as i am concerned about my patients
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Han ap jeet gaye

Thats all i needed to hear. Maxwell > Stokes in t20, Stokes > Maxwell in odi but maxwell has played an innings in odi that stokes never will.

That's the end of that. No point comparing them in test as maxwell wasnt given am opportunity despite having a better fc record then 35 fc avg stokes.

I win 🏆.
 
mominsaigol said:
Han ap jeet gaye

Thats all i needed to hear. Maxwell > Stokes in t20, Stokes > Maxwell in odi but maxwell has played an innings in odi that stokes never will.

That's the end of that. No point comparing them in test as maxwell wasnt given am opportunity despite having a better fc record then 35 fc avg stokes.

I win 🏆.
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Stokes has played one of the finest innings in wc final to win england the cup
 
Hyder said:
Stokes has played one of the finest innings in wc final to win england the cup
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Doesn't beat maxwell 201. Not to mention I watched that innings from start to finish.

Stokes was dropped 2x and one of them went for a 6. That deflection saved him as well as without that fluke, He wouldnt have gotten England over the line.

Maxwell played with a tail ender for 99% of the game and smacked a super double century something no one achieved during chasing.

And every game was life and death for aus. After being ranked at the bottom, they couldn't afford even a single loss.
 
mominsaigol said:
Doesn't beat maxwell 201. Not to mention I watched that innings from start to finish.

Stokes was dropped 2x and one of them went for a 6. That deflection saved him as well as without that fluke, He wouldnt have gotten England over the line.

Maxwell played with a tail ender for 99% of the game and smacked a super double century something no one achieved during chasing.

And every game was life and death for aus. After being ranked at the bottom, they couldn't afford even a single loss.
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Ask any cricketer which inning would they want an 80 odd and potm in wc final or 201 vs afg in dead rubber.

Maxwell inning was great but stokes eon the cup
 
Hyder said:
You did say that about his prediction that it might be true.
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Never once said it. Whether you believe me or not is upto you, but I never once said it. Unless theirs some context involved.

Send a screenshot of the Entire conversation of me stating it. So I can get the full picture, no cropping please.
 
mominsaigol said:
Never once said it. Whether you believe me or not is upto you, but I never once said it. Unless theirs some context involved.

Send a screenshot of the Entire conversation of me stating it. So I can get the full picture, no cropping please.
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You have a habit of changing narratives with famous posters and you always do this and many would agree. But dw these somatization disorders are also treatable.
 
Hyder said:
Ask any cricketer which inning would they want an 80 odd and potm in wc final or 201 vs afg in dead rubber.

Maxwell inning was great but stokes eon the cup
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The fact that you're calling it a dead rubber when every game was a life and death eliminator for Australia is hilarious.

Stokes got lucky on 3 occasions (drop catch, drop catch for 6, and deflection). Maxwell got lucky once on 19 in that game.

Not to mention hedidnt take over England over the line.

It was drawn twice..that super over rule of England being ranked higher was nonsense. Super over should have been restarted.

They added that rule for 2023 but too little too late.

This is why I dont argue with people who proclaim pandya > Maxwell based of feelings and tell me to ask any cricketer.

Why dont you ask the 1% where wahab riaz goes to the gym. Infact I'll tell my cousin to ask wahab tmr, which innings is better.
 
Hyder said:
You have a habit of changing narratives with famous posters and you always do this and many would agree. But dw these somatization disorders are also treatable.
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I never change narratives. Not once have I changed a narrative. The ones who agree, I will make them disagree.
 
mominsaigol said:
The fact that you're calling it a dead rubber when every game was a life and death eliminator for Australia is hilarious.

Stokes got lucky on 3 occasions (drop catch, drop catch for 6, and deflection). Maxwell got lucky once on 19 in that game.

Not to mention hedidnt take over England over the line.

It was drawn twice..that super over rule of England being ranked higher was nonsense. Super over should have been restarted.

They added that rule for 2023 but too little too late.

This is why I dont argue with people who proclaim pandya > Maxwell based of feelings and tell me to ask any cricketer.

Why dont you ask the 1% where wahab riaz goes to the gym. Infact I'll tell my cousin to ask wahab tmr, which innings is better.
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It was a dead rubber for aus.

Secondly you yourself admitted stokes is better in odis. Than How on earth overall maxwell is better
 
You keep maxwell who wasnt even best batter in his team and applaud him as next coming of Viv than we cant do anything about it. He is just a batsman who can bowl some handy overs.
Not even a pure all rounder idk what the debate is when u have urself said stokes is better in longer formats
 
Hyder said:
It was a dead rubber for aus.

Secondly you yourself admitted stokes is better in odis. Than How on earth overall maxwell is better
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How is it a dead rubber when Aus couldn't lose a single game, if they did they would have been eliminated.

Explain.

We are talking about innings.

Maxwell > Stokes in t20
Maxwell goat innings in odi >>>>>>> Stokes goat innings in odi.
 
Hyder said:
You keep maxwell who wasnt even best batter in his team and applaud him as next coming of Viv than we cant do anything about it. He is just a batsman who can bowl some handy overs.
Not even a pure all rounder idk what the debate is when u have urself said stokes is better in longer formats
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Dont strawman me, maxwell goat innings in odi vs Stokes goat innings in odi.

Explain
 
Anyway I have to sleep now. I've been up all night destroying and ploughing through people left and right. As expected from the Travis Head of this Forumn.
 
Never thought much of him. I always saw him as somebody who would hit a few sixes and get out. He was more impactful in T20Is where his sixes could change the game quickly but in ODI he was mostly average.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Stokes is underrated on PP.

@Mamoon is quite influential. He doesn't rate him ( wrongly I believe) but his stance influences many other posters to not rate him.

Test performances, in Ashes a match winning knock in an ODI final and a match winning knock in T20 final, these are things that many batsmen can only dream of.
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Stokes in his prime was a brilliant player, that 2019 summer alone is bigger than a lot of cricketers’ entire careers. However, he has been washed for years and some of his antics including flip flopping with white ball retirement and obnoxious remarks on Bazball and Test cricket in general have really made him quite an unlikable figure.
 
Mamoon said:
Stokes in his prime was a brilliant player, that 2019 summer alone is bigger than a lot of cricketers’ entire careers. However, he has been washed for years and some of his antics including flip flopping with white ball retirement and obnoxious remarks on Bazball and Test cricket in general have really made him quite an unlikable figure.
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But still that peak was way greater than maxwel ever had
 
He is a LOI great. Played so many clutch knocks. Super hitter down the order, handy spinner and a gun fielder.
 
BouncerGuy said:
It will take Pandya his whole career to play a single knock like Maxwell played in the WORLD CUP in a do-or-die situation.

Pandya is a clutch player but Maxwell was even more dangerous.
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Pandya is already win the World T20 and champion trophy by performing with the bat or ball . What was role of Maxwell other than Afghanistan innings . Zero

Maxwell is a fraud compared to pandya. :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Pandya is already win the World T20 and champion trophy by performing with the bat or ball . What was role of Maxwell other than Afghanistan innings . Zero

Maxwell is a fraud compared to pandya. :kp
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LOL.... everytime you jumped in to defend indian reather than reality... Anyways, I never underestimated Pandya but Maxwell was next level dangerous.
 
Yes maxi inning was great but aus wasnt getting eliminated if they lost that. Why you guys are making it up??
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Stokes is underrated on PP.

@Mamoon is quite influential. He doesn't rate him ( wrongly I believe) but his stance influences many other posters to not rate him.

Test performances, in Ashes a match winning knock in an ODI final and a match winning knock in T20 final, these are things that many batsmen can only dream of.
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Stokes is a bit overrated , regardless of Mamoon's views.
 
Devadwal said:
People's remember him because he played some unbelievable knock in between but Most of the time he is Very average player.

:kp
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Very high peaks . But his overall career is just about alright. A good allrounder but not even close to great.

Tests

Batting average - 35
Bowling average - 32 ( less than 2 wickets/match)

Good numbers but not elite. Won't make it to the team purely based on batting or bowling .


ODI's

Batting

Average : 41 Strike rate : 95

Bowling

Average :42.4. Economy - 6.05

2019 world cup final was a truly clutch knock

Guy makes the team on batting alone. But bowling stats are like a 6th bowler/part timer . Not allrounder level.


T20I's

Batting

Average : 21.66. Strike rate 128

Bowling

Average 32 (less than 1 wkt per match )

Economy - 8.40

His strike rate is lower than even Babar Azam. OK bowler.

That T20 final knock was 52 off 49. Hardly anything special.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Very high peaks . But his overall career is just about alright. A good allrounder but not even close to great.



That T20 final knock was 52 off 49. Hardly anything special.
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U need him only when the situation is too tough and a great clutch innings is required. Even in t20 wc finals, conditions were not easy or flat .even in Mitchell Johnson ashes , he was the only eng batsmen to score100 or almost scored a century.even in lords 18 test , he took out a settled kohli in second innings to win the match.As u said he is not required mostly but he is a real fighter for the worst cases.
 
Vikram1989 said:
U need him only when the situation is too tough and a great clutch innings is required. Even in t20 wc finals, conditions were not easy or flat .even in Mitchell Johnson ashes , he was the only eng batsmen to score100 or almost scored a century.even in lords 18 test , he took out a settled kohli in second innings to win the match.As u said he is not required mostly but he is a real fighter for the worst cases.
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I have never seen Stokes mow down a high total in a T20 requiring 150 strike rate.

You can't rate someone in T20's unless they have pulled off a couple of such knocks.

That T20 final was won by Sam Curran - 3/12 in 4 overs.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He doesn't deserve to be grouped in a discussion with players like Maxwell and Pandya.
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In white ball ,they are comparable.

Difference is Stokes plays Tests.

Even in Tests he's not an elite allrounder.

He's basically Imran with the bat and Kallis with the ball. He is, by default, the best seam allrounder in Tests because there's nobody else.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I have never seen Stokes mow down a high total in a T20 requiring 150 strike rate.

You can't rate someone in T20's unless they have pulled off a couple of such knocks.

That T20 final was won by Sam Curran - 3/12 in 4 overs.
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Am not talking about s.r .But situation is ripe for him as eng were 45/3 on a spicy Pitch and its finals.He produces very good clutch innings separated by deserts of mediocre innigs.
 
Pandya is a very good cricketer. I think it is fair to compare him with Maxwell, who has also had a very good career. However, the reality is that Maxwell’s innings vs Afghanistan alone is bigger than Pandya’s entire career and he is probably never going to do anything in his remaining years to better that.

This also makes me wonder if he could have done a Maxwell in the CT Final. He was simply unstoppable on that day and he did make Pakistani fans nervous in spite of the massive deficit, and there isn’t a Pakistani fan who didn’t breathe a sigh of relief when Jadeja ran him out.

He definitely deserved a hundred, but we are glad that didn’t happen because otherwise, Pakistan would not have been able to inflict the biggest defeat ever (by runs) in an ICC final. A record that might never be broken especially in white ball cricket.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
In white ball ,they are comparable.

Difference is Stokes plays Tests.

Even in Tests he's not an elite allrounder.

He's basically Imran with the bat and Kallis with the ball. He is, by default, the best seam allrounder in Tests because there's nobody else.
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Stokes is definitely a better test batsman than Imran, he has 13 test centuries to Imrans 6. The biggest different lies in the fact that Stokes has been way more impactful with the bat than Imran Khan who although was good but his average was inflated by notouts, something which even his ardent followers know.

Its basically like saying that Jadeja and Stokes are similar level batsman in test cricket.

Imran has 3800 runs in 88 test matches, Stokes has 6400 in 111 matches, the difference is huge. Stokes played 23 more matches and scored 2600 more runs.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Stokes is definitely a better test batsman than Imran, he has 13 test centuries to Imrans 6. The biggest different lies in the fact that Stokes has been way more impactful with the bat than Imran Khan who although was good but his average was inflated by notouts, something which even his ardent followers know.

Its basically like saying that Jadeja and Stokes are similar level batsman in test cricket.

Imran has 3800 runs in 88 test matches, Stokes has 6400 in 111 matches, the difference is huge. Stokes played 23 more matches and scored 2600 more runs.
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The larger point was that Imran was probably the greatest fast bowling allrounder ever and Kallis the greatest batting seam allrounder .

Stokes' best is on a comparable level to the "weak" suits of both.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
The larger point was that Imran was probably the greatest fast bowling allrounder ever and Kallis the greatest batting seam allrounder .

Stokes' best is on a comparable level to the "weak" suits of both.
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My point is that Stokes batting is not on a comparable level to Imran’s.
 
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