Wah bhai mazay kro ye information rkh kWell then ig ik more then 99% of Pakistani's about Pakistan.
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Wah bhai mazay kro ye information rkh kWell then ig ik more then 99% of Pakistani's about Pakistan.
No? When did I say that? Lol, Mamoon and I use to fight 24/7You didnt say that he might be right about this year being babars year??
U are just owning baseless views about cricket. Not a single sensible cricketer ll ever say maxwell is better than stokes because of his fc record and t20s. Periodt.@Hyder @jeeteshssaxena
Its 5:22 am, im tired and yet im still owning you both. Its my specialty to destroy.
Han ap jeet gayeU are just owning baseless views about cricket. Not a single sensible cricketer ll ever say maxwell is better than stokes because of his fc record and t20s. Periodt.
Han ap jeet gaye if it helps u sleep as i am concerned about my patients
Stokes has played one of the finest innings in wc final to win england the cupHan ap jeet gaye
Thats all i needed to hear. Maxwell > Stokes in t20, Stokes > Maxwell in odi but maxwell has played an innings in odi that stokes never will.
That's the end of that. No point comparing them in test as maxwell wasnt given am opportunity despite having a better fc record then 35 fc avg stokes.
I win.
You did say that about his prediction that it might be true.No? When did I say that? Lol, Mamoon and I use to fight 24/7. My POTW thread was wild
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Doesn't beat maxwell 201. Not to mention I watched that innings from start to finish.Stokes has played one of the finest innings in wc final to win england the cup
Ask any cricketer which inning would they want an 80 odd and potm in wc final or 201 vs afg in dead rubber.Doesn't beat maxwell 201. Not to mention I watched that innings from start to finish.
Stokes was dropped 2x and one of them went for a 6. That deflection saved him as well as without that fluke, He wouldnt have gotten England over the line.
Maxwell played with a tail ender for 99% of the game and smacked a super double century something no one achieved during chasing.
And every game was life and death for aus. After being ranked at the bottom, they couldn't afford even a single loss.
Never once said it. Whether you believe me or not is upto you, but I never once said it. Unless theirs some context involved.You did say that about his prediction that it might be true.
The fact that you're calling it a dead rubber when every game was a life and death eliminator for Australia is hilarious.Ask any cricketer which inning would they want an 80 odd and potm in wc final or 201 vs afg in dead rubber.
Maxwell inning was great but stokes eon the cup
Yeah the context is the prediction may come true, but it hasn't
I never change narratives. Not once have I changed a narrative. The ones who agree, I will make them disagree.You have a habit of changing narratives with famous posters and you always do this and many would agree. But dw these somatization disorders are also treatable.
It was a dead rubber for aus.The fact that you're calling it a dead rubber when every game was a life and death eliminator for Australia is hilarious.
Stokes got lucky on 3 occasions (drop catch, drop catch for 6, and deflection). Maxwell got lucky once on 19 in that game.
Not to mention hedidnt take over England over the line.
It was drawn twice..that super over rule of England being ranked higher was nonsense. Super over should have been restarted.
They added that rule for 2023 but too little too late.
This is why I dont argue with people who proclaim pandya > Maxwell based of feelings and tell me to ask any cricketer.
Why dont you ask the 1% where wahab riaz goes to the gym. Infact I'll tell my cousin to ask wahab tmr, which innings is better.
How is it a dead rubber when Aus couldn't lose a single game, if they did they would have been eliminated.It was a dead rubber for aus.
Secondly you yourself admitted stokes is better in odis. Than How on earth overall maxwell is better
Dont strawman me, maxwell goat innings in odi vs Stokes goat innings in odi.You keep maxwell who wasnt even best batter in his team and applaud him as next coming of Viv than we cant do anything about it. He is just a batsman who can bowl some handy overs.
Not even a pure all rounder idk what the debate is when u have urself said stokes is better in longer formats
Stokes in his prime was a brilliant player, that 2019 summer alone is bigger than a lot of cricketers’ entire careers. However, he has been washed for years and some of his antics including flip flopping with white ball retirement and obnoxious remarks on Bazball and Test cricket in general have really made him quite an unlikable figure.Stokes is underrated on PP.
@Mamoon is quite influential. He doesn't rate him ( wrongly I believe) but his stance influences many other posters to not rate him.
Test performances, in Ashes a match winning knock in an ODI final and a match winning knock in T20 final, these are things that many batsmen can only dream of.
But still that peak was way greater than maxwel ever hadStokes in his prime was a brilliant player, that 2019 summer alone is bigger than a lot of cricketers’ entire careers. However, he has been washed for years and some of his antics including flip flopping with white ball retirement and obnoxious remarks on Bazball and Test cricket in general have really made him quite an unlikable figure.
This I definitely agree with.But still that peak was way greater than maxwel ever had
It will take Pandya his whole career to play a single knock like Maxwell played in the WORLD CUP in a do-or-die situation.Panday is two level above tullebaaz Maxwell.![]()
Pandya is already win the World T20 and champion trophy by performing with the bat or ball . What was role of Maxwell other than Afghanistan innings . ZeroIt will take Pandya his whole career to play a single knock like Maxwell played in the WORLD CUP in a do-or-die situation.
Pandya is a clutch player but Maxwell was even more dangerous.
LOL.... everytime you jumped in to defend indian reather than reality... Anyways, I never underestimated Pandya but Maxwell was next level dangerous.Pandya is already win the World T20 and champion trophy by performing with the bat or ball . What was role of Maxwell other than Afghanistan innings . Zero
Maxwell is a fraud compared to pandya.![]()
Its a fact , Pandya is two level ahead of Maxwell.LOL.... everytime you jumped in to defend indian reather than reality... Anyways, I never underestimated Pandya but Maxwell was next level dangerous.
Fact in your own delusional fantasy world I guess... OK..Its a fact , Pandya is two level ahead of Maxwell.![]()
Stokes is underrated on PP.
@Mamoon is quite influential. He doesn't rate him ( wrongly I believe) but his stance influences many other posters to not rate him.
Test performances, in Ashes a match winning knock in an ODI final and a match winning knock in T20 final, these are things that many batsmen can only dream of.
People's remember him because he played some unbelievable knock in between but Most of the time he is Very average player.Stokes is a bit overrated , regardless of Mamoon's views.
Very high peaks . But his overall career is just about alright. A good allrounder but not even close to great.People's remember him because he played some unbelievable knock in between but Most of the time he is Very average player.
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He doesn't deserve to be grouped in a discussion with players like Maxwell and Pandya.Stokes is a bit overrated , regardless of Mamoon's views.
Google tue definition of factIts a fact , Pandya is two level ahead of Maxwell.![]()
U need him only when the situation is too tough and a great clutch innings is required. Even in t20 wc finals, conditions were not easy or flat .even in Mitchell Johnson ashes , he was the only eng batsmen to score100 or almost scored a century.even in lords 18 test , he took out a settled kohli in second innings to win the match.As u said he is not required mostly but he is a real fighter for the worst cases.Very high peaks . But his overall career is just about alright. A good allrounder but not even close to great.
That T20 final knock was 52 off 49. Hardly anything special.
U need him only when the situation is too tough and a great clutch innings is required. Even in t20 wc finals, conditions were not easy or flat .even in Mitchell Johnson ashes , he was the only eng batsmen to score100 or almost scored a century.even in lords 18 test , he took out a settled kohli in second innings to win the match.As u said he is not required mostly but he is a real fighter for the worst cases.
He doesn't deserve to be grouped in a discussion with players like Maxwell and Pandya.
Am not talking about s.r .But situation is ripe for him as eng were 45/3 on a spicy Pitch and its finals.He produces very good clutch innings separated by deserts of mediocre innigs.I have never seen Stokes mow down a high total in a T20 requiring 150 strike rate.
You can't rate someone in T20's unless they have pulled off a couple of such knocks.
That T20 final was won by Sam Curran - 3/12 in 4 overs.
Ok first understand the meaning of wannabe and different between DRS and DLS .Google tue definition of fact
Did you forget that Glenn Maxwell is Damaad-e-Hind?Apart from one ATG inning ( Vs Afghanistan) he has medicore careers .
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Well considering that you're the biggest wannabe here as stated by literally everyone, I think you're in a better position to explain itOk first understand the meaning of wannabe and different between DRS and DLS .![]()
Stokes is definitely a better test batsman than Imran, he has 13 test centuries to Imrans 6. The biggest different lies in the fact that Stokes has been way more impactful with the bat than Imran Khan who although was good but his average was inflated by notouts, something which even his ardent followers know.In white ball ,they are comparable.
Difference is Stokes plays Tests.
Even in Tests he's not an elite allrounder.
He's basically Imran with the bat and Kallis with the ball. He is, by default, the best seam allrounder in Tests because there's nobody else.
Stokes is definitely a better test batsman than Imran, he has 13 test centuries to Imrans 6. The biggest different lies in the fact that Stokes has been way more impactful with the bat than Imran Khan who although was good but his average was inflated by notouts, something which even his ardent followers know.
Its basically like saying that Jadeja and Stokes are similar level batsman in test cricket.
Imran has 3800 runs in 88 test matches, Stokes has 6400 in 111 matches, the difference is huge. Stokes played 23 more matches and scored 2600 more runs.
My point is that Stokes batting is not on a comparable level to Imran’s.The larger point was that Imran was probably the greatest fast bowling allrounder ever and Kallis the greatest batting seam allrounder .
Stokes' best is on a comparable level to the "weak" suits of both.
My point is that Stokes batting is not on a comparable level to Imran’s.