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Glenn Maxwell's all-time combined Aus-Ind-Eng ODI XI

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Virat Kohli
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
Shane Watson
MS Dhoni
Brett Lee
Anil Kumble
Jasprit Bumrah
Glenn McGrath


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8 out of 11 spots seems fine to me and pretty much locked. I will find it hard to displace them.

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Virat Kohli
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
MS Dhoni
Jasprit Bumrah
Glenn McGrath

But there is no way I will even consider having Kumble over Warne. Also, it's weird to see a combined XI of Aus, Ind and Eng and no Eng player in the XI.

Which Eng player will make into the XI in your opinion?
 
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If you want England players in his squad

You can make argument for Buttler over Dhoni, Morgan over Bevan and Stokes vs Watson.
 
If you want England players in his squad

You can make argument for Buttler over Dhoni, Morgan over Bevan and Stokes vs Watson.
Stokes over Watson is pretty decent. Case can be made for picking only one - Dhoni or Bevan. But having the two best finishers in history playing in the same side is just hard to pass as well.
 
It seems , he was given names and he picked from that.

Openers - Rohit Sharma, David Warner, Sachin Tendulkar, Jonny Bairstow, and Mark Waugh.

Middle order - Eoin Morgan, Joe Root, Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke, and Michael Bevan.

All-rounders - Yuvraj Singh, Andrew Symonds, Steve Waugh, Andrew Flintoff, Ben Stokes, Kapil Dev & Watson

Keepers - Dhoni, Gilly, Buttler

Bowlers - Bumrah, McGrath, Warne, Kumble, Srinath. Lee, Zampa, Gaugh, Anderson
 
Watson won them champions Trophy think in 2010. He was the hero both in the semi final and final. WOn both man of the matches with 135* (semi vs England) & 105 (final vs NZ). Clutch player. But he was an opener. He is useless down the order
 
Watson won them champions Trophy think in 2010. He was the hero both in the semi final and final. WOn both man of the matches with 135* (semi vs England) & 105 (final vs NZ). Clutch player
Also, it's normal to rate players from your own era higher.
 
1. Warne over Kumble
2. Watson achieved success as opener so I will drop him and pick an England player there, probably Flintoff. Kapil Dev is actually a strong choice too in a ODI side at #7. Stokes is not needed if you have Dhoni and Bevan. You can actually pick Stokes and drop Bevan but reckon Bevan was a great of his era and should be picked in the side. But you can also pick Symonds there. No specific choice tbh.

Honestly, my XI :-

Tendulkar
Gilchrist(wk)
Ponting(c)
Kohli
Bevan
Buttler
Kapil
Starc
Warne
Bumrah
McGrath

Rohit and Gilchrist can swap. The reason I went Gilly over Rohit is because I didn’t wanted all my top 4 to be similar type ( score big runs). Bevan and Buttler are two different style of finishers.

Australians - 6
Indians - 4
English - 1

Seems pretty fine.
 
Glenn Maxwell's all-time combined Aus-Ind-Eng ODI XI

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Virat Kohli
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
Shane Watson
MS Dhoni
Brett Lee
Anil Kumble
Jasprit Bumrah
Glenn McGrath


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8 out of 11 spots seems fine to me and pretty much locked. I will find it hard to displace them.

Sachin Tendulkar
Rohit Sharma
Virat Kohli
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
MS Dhoni
Jasprit Bumrah
Glenn McGrath

But there is no way I will even consider having Kumble over Warne. Also, it's weird to see a combined XI of Aus, Ind and Eng and no Eng player in the XI.

Which Eng player will make into the XI in your opinion?

I know that's the personal prerogative of each person to make ATG 11s so I won't comment who has and hasn't been selected.

If we think neutrally & without any commercial implication (clicks, fan interest, engagement etc.) that are required by publications, it's obvious to me that if Aus have to make joint elevens with other teams, no one from the other country will make it to playing eleven. They literally won 3 back to back world cups with a core of their players and later came back to win two more just to stamp their authority & prove a point that they still reign supreme.

Gilly, Haydos, & Ponting are a world class proven top 3 that works in any era.

Tendulkar has a case here, he's that good, but Hayden & Gilly are truly a remarkable opening pair and they played in the same era & managed to win a final against Tendulkar in 2003. Kohlis clutch but so is Ponting & Ponting also has won 3 world cups in which two he won as a captain.

Add Smith and Clark in the middle and their batting gets strengthened. Sehwag had a case here but Smith and Clark trump them.

Symmo and Watson cover for the all-round position. No comparison here.

Cummins, McGrath, Warne, & Starc are all ATG ODI bowlers with proven quality & world cup wins. Bumrah has a genuine case here but who do you replace here from this quartet? Cummins and Starc can both bat a bit as well which adds extra depth. Brett Lee & Mitchel Johnson too could get in but Cummins is just the better overall package.

Australia literally seem to have no weaknesses in white ball cricket. This is after not considering so many generational players like Mark & Steve Waugh, Allan Border, Bevan, Damien Martyn, Hussey, McDermott, Boon, Dean Jones, etc. They have also won the world cup everywhere where cricket is played which shows their ability to adapt to conditions; Aus, Sub-continent, South Africa, England, & West Indies.
 
Honestly, my XI :-

Tendulkar
Gilchrist(wk)
Ponting(c)
Kohli
Bevan
Buttler
Kapil
Starc
Warne
Bumrah
McGrath


Rohit and Gilchrist can swap. The reason I went Gilly over Rohit is because I didn’t wanted all my top 4 to be similar type ( score big runs). Bevan and Buttler are two different style of finishers.

Australians - 6
Indians - 4
English - 1

Seems pretty fine.
Bowling becomes really good for ODIs with these 5.
 
I know that's the personal prerogative of each person to make ATG 11s so I won't comment who has and hasn't been selected.

If we think neutrally & without any commercial implication (clicks, fan interest, engagement etc.) that are required by publications, it's obvious to me that if Aus have to make joint elevens with other teams, no one from the other country will make it to playing eleven. They literally won 3 back to back world cups with a core of their players and later came back to win two more just to stamp their authority & prove a point that they still reign supreme.

Gilly, Haydos, & Ponting are a world class proven top 3 that works in any era.

Tendulkar has a case here, he's that good, but Hayden & Gilly are truly a remarkable opening pair and they played in the same era & managed to win a final against Tendulkar in 2003. Kohlis clutch but so is Ponting & Ponting also has won 3 world cups in which two he won as a captain.

Add Smith and Clark in the middle and their batting gets strengthened. Sehwag had a case here but Smith and Clark trump them.

Symmo and Watson cover for the all-round position. No comparison here.

Cummins, McGrath, Warne, & Starc are all ATG ODI bowlers with proven quality & world cup wins. Bumrah has a genuine case here but who do you replace here from this quartet? Cummins and Starc can both bat a bit as well which adds extra depth. Brett Lee & Mitchel Johnson too could get in but Cummins is just the better overall package.

Australia literally seem to have no weaknesses in white ball cricket. This is after not considering so many generational players like Mark & Steve Waugh, Allan Border, Bevan, Damien Martyn, Hussey, McDermott, Boon, Dean Jones, etc. They have also won the world cup everywhere where cricket is played which shows their ability to adapt to conditions; Aus, Sub-continent, South Africa, England, & West Indies.

A minor thing I missed about Ponting, there has been no fielder better than Ponting when it comes to hitting the stumps on crucial moments in the game. On that ability alone, Ponting makes the team over any other number 3 batter.
 
I know that's the personal prerogative of each person to make ATG 11s so I won't comment who has and hasn't been selected.

If we think neutrally & without any commercial implication (clicks, fan interest, engagement etc.) that are required by publications, it's obvious to me that if Aus have to make joint elevens with other teams, no one from the other country will make it to playing eleven. They literally won 3 back to back world cups with a core of their players and later came back to win two more just to stamp their authority & prove a point that they still reign supreme.

Gilly, Haydos, & Ponting are a world class proven top 3 that works in any era.

Tendulkar has a case here, he's that good, but Hayden & Gilly are truly a remarkable opening pair and they played in the same era & managed to win a final against Tendulkar in 2003. Kohlis clutch but so is Ponting & Ponting also has won 3 world cups in which two he won as a captain.

Add Smith and Clark in the middle and their batting gets strengthened. Sehwag had a case here but Smith and Clark trump them.

Symmo and Watson cover for the all-round position. No comparison here.

Cummins, McGrath, Warne, & Starc are all ATG ODI bowlers with proven quality & world cup wins. Bumrah has a genuine case here but who do you replace here from this quartet? Cummins and Starc can both bat a bit as well which adds extra depth. Brett Lee & Mitchel Johnson too could get in but Cummins is just the better overall package.

Australia literally seem to have no weaknesses in white ball cricket. This is after not considering so many generational players like Mark & Steve Waugh, Allan Border, Bevan, Damien Martyn, Hussey, McDermott, Boon, Dean Jones, etc. They have also won the world cup everywhere where cricket is played which shows their ability to adapt to conditions; Aus, Sub-continent, South Africa, England, & West Indies.
I differ with the view. Aus team collectively was superior in ODI format compared to most sides in history, but you can surely find names who can improve even Aus team. All members were not that great to not allow anyone else to make into the team.

Aus team collectively was very good due to enough great players playing at the same time. It hardly means that some of the weaker players can't be replaced.
 
Stokes over Watson is pretty decent. Case can be made for picking only one - Dhoni or Bevan. But having the two best finishers in history playing in the same side is just hard to pass as well.
Many of the GOAT players you can pick up and transplant into another era and they will fit in nicely.

For Bevan, I'm not so sure, he was a trend setter but very era specific and fulfilled a niche for one era and style of cricket.
 
I can easily build a team that can beat this one. This unit does not have AUstralian structure. Just 5 bowlers one of them being Watson.
Austarlians usually prefer players who are good in multiple disciplines. That is their secret of tournament success. YOu think they don't have collapses? They have as many collapses as any other teams

15/4 in 1996 world cup semi final

146/5
87/7 2003 world cup

Quiet a few collapses. But someone always stepped up. They build their unit to cover as many bases as possible. It allows them to handle unexpected scenarios. The same secret worked NZ as well for long period a reason why they make it to the final 4 a lot of times. Depth is their mantra. Now other teams are also copying the same.
 
Many of the GOAT players you can pick up and transplant into another era and they will fit in nicely.

For Bevan, I'm not so sure, he was a trend setter but very era specific and fulfilled a niche for one era and style of cricket.
You are probably correct. He was perfectly suited for that era with his style and he may have had a far less sucess in different era due to lack of hitting ability. Often fans, including me, pick gun players from each era and put them together and call it a day. But it would be an interesting excercise to name 11 playres who could be great in any era and have those players in team.

Flip side of Bevan - we also have to ignore some players who have thrived only on flat tracks with very little movements. Some of them would have struggled in one ball era with ball reversing or pitch having more turn for spinners. ODI's games have changed a lot each decade.

It's would be interesting to think and name an XI who could be good/great in all eras under various conditions. I guess batsmen ability to hit big with skill to adapt all conditions will be needed. Same for bowlers, they have to be good in all phases and also good in 1 ball or 2 ball eras.

Give it a shot and name your XI based on that.
 
Combind AUS-IND-ENGLAND ODI team:

Gilchrist (wk)
Tendulkar
Kohli
Ponting (c)
Root
Yuvraj
Stokes
Starc
Cummins
Warne
McGrath
 
I differ with the view. Aus team collectively was superior in ODI format compared to most sides in history, but you can surely find names who can improve even Aus team. All members were not that great to not allow anyone else to make into the team.

Aus team collectively was very good due to enough great players playing at the same time. It hardly means that some of the weaker players can't be replaced.

& that is exactly what I have done. Removed their slightly weaker players like Lehmann, Bichell etc. & replaced them with their other generational talents like Smith and Clarke.
 
I know that's the personal prerogative of each person to make ATG 11s so I won't comment who has and hasn't been selected.

If we think neutrally & without any commercial implication (clicks, fan interest, engagement etc.) that are required by publications, it's obvious to me that if Aus have to make joint elevens with other teams, no one from the other country will make it to playing eleven. They literally won 3 back to back world cups with a core of their players and later came back to win two more just to stamp their authority & prove a point that they still reign supreme.

Gilly, Haydos, & Ponting are a world class proven top 3 that works in any era.

Tendulkar has a case here, he's that good, but Hayden & Gilly are truly a remarkable opening pair and they played in the same era & managed to win a final against Tendulkar in 2003. Kohlis clutch but so is Ponting & Ponting also has won 3 world cups in which two he won as a captain.

Add Smith and Clark in the middle and their batting gets strengthened. Sehwag had a case here but Smith and Clark trump them.

Symmo and Watson cover for the all-round position. No comparison here.

Cummins, McGrath, Warne, & Starc are all ATG ODI bowlers with proven quality & world cup wins. Bumrah has a genuine case here but who do you replace here from this quartet? Cummins and Starc can both bat a bit as well which adds extra depth. Brett Lee & Mitchel Johnson too could get in but Cummins is just the better overall package.

Australia literally seem to have no weaknesses in white ball cricket. This is after not considering so many generational players like Mark & Steve Waugh, Allan Border, Bevan, Damien Martyn, Hussey, McDermott, Boon, Dean Jones, etc. They have also won the world cup everywhere where cricket is played which shows their ability to adapt to conditions; Aus, Sub-continent, South Africa, England, & West Indies.
If you extend the same logic to India-Pak then there will hardly be any Pak players in the XI though.

One of Miandad/Inzy at 4 and Wasim.

Guys like Waqar and Saqlain would miss out to Shami/Zaheer and Kuldeep who have won ICC tournaments and have done well in KOs.
 
& that is exactly what I have done. Removed their slightly weaker players like Lehmann, Bichell etc. & replaced them with their other generational talents like Smith and Clarke.
But Smith and Clarke are not really anywhere close to top 10-15 ODI talent in history. They are still weaker players when you talk about top global talents in history.

Let me put it this way. Forget about Aus players from certain era, You can take all time Aus ODI XI and according to your logic it can't be improved much because Aus won lots of WC ODIs. I disagree with it. Team can surely be imporved because lots of players from all time Aus XI can be replaced by better players.
 
Punter was a stabilizer mostly. Not an enforcer. Apart from the final in 2003 where everyone was bashing the bowling around on an ultra flat deck Punter's knocks are not quiet exactly intimidating knocks. Gilchrist, Haydos, Warner were more aggressive than him. Career strike rate of 80 explains that. As a comparison Mark waugh finished with a strike rate of 83 in world cups where Punter with 79 in world cups. Even steve waugh's strike rate in world cup is 81. But Punter is the heaviest scorer for them. Hence his name.
 
Punter was a stabilizer mostly. Not an enforcer. Apart from the final in 2003 where everyone was bashing the bowling around on an ultra flat deck Punter's knocks are not quiet exactly intimidating knocks. Gilchrist, Haydos, Warner were more aggressive than him. Career strike rate of 80 explains that. As a comparison Mark waugh finished with a strike rate of 83 in world cups where Punter with 79 in world cups. Even steve waugh's strike rate in world cup is 81. But Punter is the heaviest scorer for them. Hence his name.
Jones is not talked much, but he was a gun ODI batsman from Aus. He started in 80s. Had avg of 44 and SR of 72-73. It's pretty good for that time.
 
Dean Jones was blockbuster!

Absolutely loved watching him bat.

Fit as a fiddle; ran twos and threes like it was no effort at all. And had enough power to clear the big stadiums in Australia. Terrific fielder. The first almost-perfect ODI batsman-fielder to appear on the scene.

Richards was great but his game was more about power than redefining or reshaping the image of the ODI format.

One of the ODI greats, for sure.
 
You are probably correct. He was perfectly suited for that era with his style and he may have had a far less sucess in different era due to lack of hitting ability. Often fans, including me, pick gun players from each era and put them together and call it a day. But it would be an interesting excercise to name 11 playres who could be great in any era and have those players in team.

Flip side of Bevan - we also have to ignore some players who have thrived only on flat tracks with very little movements. Some of them would have struggled in one ball era with ball reversing or pitch having more turn for spinners. ODI's games have changed a lot each decade.

It's would be interesting to think and name an XI who could be good/great in all eras under various conditions. I guess batsmen ability to hit big with skill to adapt all conditions will be needed. Same for bowlers, they have to be good in all phases and also good in 1 ball or 2 ball eras.

Give it a shot and name your XI based on that.
I had a think about it and It becomes very difficult and perhaps biased.

In LOI I would tend to favour more recent players and in Test past players.
 
Fit as a fiddle; ran twos and threes like it was no effort at all. And had enough power to clear the big stadiums in Australia. Terrific fielder. The first almost-perfect ODI batsman-fielder to appear on the scene.

Richards was great but his game was more about power than redefining or reshaping the image of the ODI format.

One of the ODI greats, for sure.

Many Australian players followed Dean Jones' template, Punter being the foremost.

The 2 Indian players who made Jones' template their own?

M S Dhoni and Virat Kohli!
 
Combind AUS-IND-ENGLAND ODI team:

Gilchrist (wk)
Tendulkar
Kohli
Ponting (c)
Root
Yuvraj
Stokes
Starc
Cummins
Warne
McGrath
If Cummins is not the captain, I wouldn't pick him as a bowler along in a combined XI. His average of 29 and economy of 5.3 makes him an average ODI bowler. Just among Australian bowlers Jason Gillespie, Brett Lee, Damien Fleming and Josh Hazlewood are better ODI bowlers than Cummins.
 
I had a think about it and It becomes very difficult and perhaps biased.

In LOI I would tend to favour more recent players and in Test past players.
Yah, I found it hard as well. It's far easier to just take gun players from each eras, drop them in a team and call it a day.

But your thoughts have merit. Most gun players will do well in all eras but not every gun player has skills to do well in all eras.

I find it harder to it for ODI due to changes being too much. In test, it's realtively easier due to changes are not that huge and you really don't need too much power hitting there.
 
Mcgrath , Waugh etc 90s players are notorious for their hate against eng .they wont even call eng but poms as disrespect. Mcgrath not like it but gun ars are from eng mostly .Flintoff, Stokes , Botham will do fine in odi setup .kapil can do the job from india.
 
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