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Golden opportunity for PSL teams to rope in Steve Smith and David Warner during the next draft?

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Ramdin was only picked for his passport like MMHS said.

Smith is an extremely average T20 batsman. There are like 50 better T20 batsmen than him.


We won't be able to get those players. If Smith is avaliable , PSL should try to sign him up.
 
I can accept Smith playing in the IPL since he is a big name in international cricket, but captaining a franchise? That's what's baffling.

UA is a much better T20 player compared to Smith, which speaks volumes of Smith's capability as a T20 batsman (since UA is a useless tool).
why is it baffling? Dhoni was the captain and the team was second last. Smith captained the same team to the final of IPP
 
Then it's time to get rid of all cheats.

Amir, Afridi, and Waqar to begin with. Cleanse the league of this filth and keep out other criminals such as Sharjeel Khan/Shahzaib Hasan/Khalid Latif/Salman Butt/Mohammad Asif/Nasir Jamshed.

Don't forget Akhtar the chucker, doper, and physical abuser.

but none of those you named are playing while serving the ban. After their ban even ipl might take smith and warner back
 
Unlikely they will get a a NOC from CA before their 12 month ban runs out. Warner may decide to go freelance if he's not welcomed back to the Australian set up (which I believe he will be).
 
but none of those you named are playing while serving the ban. After their ban even ipl might take smith and warner back

I was replying more to this...

He said, "None of our legends are disgraceful or cheats in Pakistan do not deserve to be treated the same way."

Our legends were indeed disgraceful/cheats (Waqar/Akhtar). Including some of the wannabe legends that I listed too. This is of course ignoring Wasim and Aqib Javed who have often talked about tampering with bottle caps (Imran Khan openly said it in an interview). We have past chuckers like Hafeez, Malik and Ajmal in the PSL.

And Rashid Latif was a cheat too.

I'm almost embarassed when I list all of these names out. :))
 
Smith is avg in T20Is, however in his IPL stint he have done fairly well, and last season he also lead his team to finals (almost Won until they choked in the end). He is very valueable player when you consider his leadership skills (not talking about recent controversy) and playing under pressure.


And can you post the list of so called 50 batsmen better than Smith? Im curious to know

Smith avgs 21 @ 120 sr in t20Is, even Ronchi with 19@140 is way better than him
 
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Disgusting thread. People already think we have lower standards for ball tampering-like behaviour than the rest of the world and then we go and do this?

I don't like the BCCI as much as the other Pakistani, but they took a clear stance. And we should do the same too. Brand perception is a thing, and when we are trying to rebuild Pakistan's brand in the global cricket world this would be a terrible message to send out. The PSL is an upcoming league built on the image of a plucky resilient nation that's coming back despite the incredible problems that have been bestowed on it by geopolitics and the mistakes of its leaders. PSL is for you and me, the average Pakistani fan who can again feel proud of our team & our cricket; we don't need to go and cut our nose to spite the IPL's face now.

Also, anyone who thinks that Steve Smith is not 'good enough' for the PSL, can you please give me what you've been smoking? Thanks!
 
How crazy would the idea be to recruit Smith and Warner for Psl

So how crazy of an idea would it be? Is it madness or a brilliant play for Psl to recruit Smith and warner for the next Psl edition. Ipl has banned them so the opportunity is ripe for the taking . I’ve also heard that all of the endorsements that pay Smith and Warner are slowly beginning to end their ties with them so money will be an issue for the next year or so.

Also there will be another side that would sympathize with Smith and Warner and hence would give Psl free publicity. I don’t see Smith and Warner saying no to Psl. But the contract that Psl draws up for them should make it clear that they should play in Pakistan. Now it depends on Sethi to see if he has the kahunas to make this happen.

Now before someone argues that Psl would also take the moral ground and not have them, let’s keep in mind that having Smith and Warner would do the Psl a world of good and is greater than every single player the Psl currently has.
 
Yeah we should do it if we plan on never touring Australia again.
 
If they are allowed by CA, sign them up. Why would CA be angry at us if they are free to at franchise cricket?

But I don't think either of them will be interested in playing in the PSL. Their main concern will be getting back into the national side.
 
These two might be the Most Honest Cricketers ........ NOW !!!!!!! Soooooo ..... why not ???????
 
If CA is fine with them playing in franchise cricket then that is fine and they might be interested as they'll be coming to the end of their ban and they will have to fight for their place before 2019 WC so for them, that period may be crucial to get an AUS spot before WC.
 
Smith poised to return to cricket

Suspended Australia captain could take part in a T20 tournament in Canada from next month

Steve Smith could make his return to cricket as early as next month in Toronto as part of the Global T20 Canada tournament.

Smith, who lost the Australian captaincy for at least two years due to his role in the ball-tampering scandal in Cape Town, is also serving a 12-month suspension which prohibits him playing state, Big Bash and national level cricket.

Cricket.com.au understands the Smith camp has been approached by organisers of the Toronto-based tournament with an eye to the suspended star featuring in the six-team competition, which will be staged from 28 June to 16 July, with a minimum of four Canadian players in each squad, with all matches to be played at Maple Leaf Cricket Club, 40km north of downtown Toronto in King City.

It is understood Cricket Australia is supportive of the opportunity should Smith take part in the tournament.

One team will be comprised entirely of West Indians, bar the four local Canadians, with most of the squads to be made up of foreign players.

Interested players can register online, with a draft on May 26 set to determine the rosters for the 19-day tournament.

The six competing teams are Caribbean All-Stars, Toronto Nationals, Montreal Tigers, Ottawa Royals, Vancouver Knights and Winnipeg Hawks.

The International Cricket Council sanctioned the league in February, making it the first sanctioned T20 competition organised by an Associate nation in North America.

However, the West Indies is a sponsor of the league, and without the support of a Full Member nation the ICC would not have approved the competition.

After he accepted his 12-month suspension, Smith spent time in the United States before returning home last week.

On Tuesday, he hit the indoor nets at Moore Park for more than hour with his father Peter, who diligently fed him balls through the bowling machine.

While Smith’s return to the middle might be sooner rather than later, the comebacks of David Warner and Cameron Bancroft have become clearer in the past week.

On Monday, Bancroft – who copped a nine-month ban by CA – was granted special dispensation to play in Western Australia’s Premier Cricket competition after the Western Australia District Cricket Council voted 14-2 in favour of allowing the opener to play next summer.

Unlike other states, the bans handed down by CA extend to the WADCC, which is why Bancroft needed special approval to play.


Two days later, Randwick Petersham club president and former Australia fast bowler Mike Whitney revealed Warner will play at least the “first three or four" games for the club at the start of the 2018-19 season.

"We're delighted to have him," Whitney said. "He's one of the best players Australia has had since World War Two.

"He's been speaking to one of our club officials and he has committed to the first three or four rounds of the season. Why it is only three or four rounds at this stage, I don't know.

"Everyone is excited to have him. He will be great in the changing rooms with younger players."

Warner, along with Smith, was suspended for 12 months for his involvement at Newlands, but unlike the former captain, he can never hold a leadership position in Australian cricket again.

All three players must also complete 100 hours of community service as part of their punishment, which Warner has already started to achieve after he spent time in Darwin at a Power Hitting clinic with Northern Territory women and girls.


https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ste...uspended-warner-bancroft-tampering/2018-05-18
 
It's not a question of is it allowed, it's a matter of principle. CA allowing it is independent of it being acceptable for us to say "okay you've been sanctioned by your own board, we don't really care about what you did, we just need to increase our profit margins so please come our way". Why feed the stereotype surrounding Pakistan. It's not worth it to get two stars at the cost of saying "oh banned for ball tampering? hahahaha good one, but no seriously guys, we have good raita and biryani pls come".

Both Steve Smith and David Warner played in the Global T20 and are going to play in the CPL.

They've also talked about how playing in the IPL next year will help them warm up ahead of the World Cup.

I think CA would secretly love if the two played in the PSL and got even more batting practice.
 
Why would you want Steve Smith in psl - I understand starc and Warner.

But Smith cannot play t20
 
I love the PSL but the quality of the international talent-pool is really inconsistent and some of the international players are worse than our own international discards.

Smith and Warner would be good for the league.
 
Hiring disgraced players isn't good for any league's reputation.

People follow the news, and follow other leagues. If there's no upstorm with them joining other domestic T20s then PSL will surely take them. Can't see it any other way.
 
David Warner signed up for the Bangladesh Premier League which runs from January 5th to February 8th.

PSL is February 14th to March 17th.

IPL Begins March 29th.

Perhaps he wants to take a break in between, but it would be a great signing if the PSL is able to snag him up.
 
David Warner signed up for the Bangladesh Premier League which runs from January 5th to February 8th.

PSL is February 14th to March 17th.

IPL Begins March 29th.

Perhaps he wants to take a break in between, but it would be a great signing if the PSL is able to snag him up.

I guess he won't going to join PSL.
 
I'm curious to know why he signed up with BPL and not with PSL? PSL is much more accredited and valued. Hypocrisy?
 
I'm curious to know why he signed up with BPL and not with PSL? PSL is much more accredited and valued. Hypocrisy?

BPL is January 5th to February 8th.

PSL is February 14th to March 17th.

IPL is March 29th to May 19th.

Understandable that he wouldn't want to be away for almost 5 months.
 
I'm curious to know why he signed up with BPL and not with PSL? PSL is much more accredited and valued. Hypocrisy?

PSL is much more accredited in PakPassion indeed, but not sure how it's more valued - money wise, you can check some facts and player wise as well, you need to open your mind - Dinesh Ramdhin doesn't bat at 4 for BPL.

But, I think instead of hypocrisy, he doesn't want to risk injury so close to IPL and might not be comfortable to travel to PAK. This is something that'll hurt PSL every-time - PCB should either shift PSL overlapping with IPL or shift it to SEP_OCT window.
 
PSL is much more accredited in PakPassion indeed, but not sure how it's more valued - money wise, you can check some facts and player wise as well, you need to open your mind - Dinesh Ramdhin doesn't bat at 4 for BPL.

But, I think instead of hypocrisy, he doesn't want to risk injury so close to IPL and might not be comfortable to travel to PAK. This is something that'll hurt PSL every-time - PCB should either shift PSL overlapping with IPL or shift it to SEP_OCT window.

What are you going on about?

How many times did Ramdin bat at 4 for PSL last year? Once? Twice?

He only played in matches last year.

Wasn't Chris Gayle the leading run-scorer in the BPL who is a complete failure in the PSL and wasn't even selected?
 
What are you going on about?

How many times did Ramdin bat at 4 for PSL last year? Once? Twice?

He only played in matches last year.

Wasn't Chris Gayle the leading run-scorer in the BPL who is a complete failure in the PSL and wasn't even selected?

Couldn't you find a worse example than Gayle to put PSL up - that guy is so ordinary!!!!

DRamdhin might not have played a single game, let alone at 4 - but, he was picked as one of 6 foreigners, for a team that had probably 13 of the 15 1st picks.
 
PSL is much more accredited in PakPassion indeed, but not sure how it's more valued - money wise, you can check some facts and player wise as well, you need to open your mind - Dinesh Ramdhin doesn't bat at 4 for BPL.

But, I think instead of hypocrisy, he doesn't want to risk injury so close to IPL and might not be comfortable to travel to PAK. This is something that'll hurt PSL every-time - PCB should either shift PSL overlapping with IPL or shift it to SEP_OCT window.

PSL window needs to be shifted to after the IPL, not before in order to maximize PSL chances of attracting the best possible foreign players
 
Couldn't you find a worse example than Gayle to put PSL up - that guy is so ordinary!!!!

DRamdhin might not have played a single game, let alone at 4 - but, he was picked as one of 6 foreigners, for a team that had probably 13 of the 15 1st picks.

He wasn’t actually picked in the draft. He was an injury replacement. I think he replaced Lynn which is a big LOL TBF.
 
He wasn’t actually picked in the draft. He was an injury replacement. I think he replaced Lynn which is a big LOL TBF.

I know - still, why should you pick him as replacement? This not only tells the pulling power of PSL, but the intellectual capacity as well.
 
PSL window needs to be shifted to after the IPL, not before in order to maximize PSL chances of attracting the best possible foreign players

After IPL isn't feasible for climate (be in UAE or PAK); while once they start EPL, June-July window will be blocked as well. Left is SEP-OCT window, or arranging PSL along with IPL - PAK players are not playing there, while top pros won't come to PSL in any case, while since International cricket in off that time, PSL can get best of rest of the world from Indians & 64 foreigners. Market segment is different, therefore commercially it's not at risk.
 
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