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Haider Ali - T20I Performance Watch

I’ve seen Haider Ali drop more catches than Abdul Razzaq. This guy cannot catch and yet they still field him as a boundary rider.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 2020. Haider Ali whilst playing against England, became the first Pakistani batsman to make a 50 on T20I debut <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/LEztvBmwLA">pic.twitter.com/LEztvBmwLA</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1432973082839425026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Scary how only in one year he has become a zero from a hero. No where on the radar, and his good performances are very scarce these days.
 
Sher Khan said:
Scary how only in one year he has become a zero from a hero. No where on the radar, and his good performances are very scarce these days.
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He was brought in way too early. Needs to do the hard miles in domestic cricket.

Haider has a brighter future than the likes of Azam Khan.
 
When I pointed out that the guy seemed a bit thick when he batted, some told me he will grow up. I am desperate for this guy to come off because he has a range of shots but like nearly all of our young batsman and most of the young bowlers, the guy doesn't seem to have 2 brain cells to rub together.
 
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It's Haider Ali's misfortune that his transition into international cricket has been overseen by visionless, fickle Pakistani coaches and captains.

Babar would do well to remember how Mickey backed him even when his numbers merited a drop in Tests.

He's one of the few Pakistani batsmen who bats with intent. He shouldn't have been dropped from the XI in the first place - his last T20I scores read 45(38), 68(39) and 31(34).

We've no idea how to handle positive batsmen, we'd much rather reward someone for a useless 50(40). He should play all 7 T20Is vs England and given license to attack. If he gets out playing attacking shots, so be it but just give him a proper run.
 
Really really pray he is played in all 12 matches before the WC but don’t have high hopes from stubborn Babar
 
Markhor said:
It's Haider Ali's misfortune that his transition into international cricket has been overseen by visionless, fickle Pakistani coaches and captains.

Babar would do well to remember how Mickey backed him even when his numbers merited a drop in Tests.

He's one of the few Pakistani batsmen who bats with intent. He shouldn't have been dropped from the XI in the first place - his last T20I scores read 45(38), 68(39) and 31(34).

We've no idea how to handle positive batsmen, we'd much rather reward someone for a useless 50(40). He should play all 7 T20Is vs England and given license to attack. If he gets out playing attacking shots, so be it but just give him a proper run.
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Very good point. Babar will always have risen to the top, but the way Mickey managed him early in his career vs how Misban was managing was life changing.

Its sad to now see Babar go down the Misbah route with Haider. Along with Naseem Shah, these two were the x-factor young talents in Pakistan. Naseem thankfully seems to have come back from the wilderness over the last few months, and I hope Haider can do the same.
 
asadee said:
Really really pray he is played in all 12 matches before the WC but don’t have high hopes from stubborn Babar
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That's the way to go about it but Babar would give him some 1-2 games then revert back to the "safety" of Khushdil ifti etc.
 
Brainless cretin. Don't know why he looks so disappointed and confused when he gets out with the same garbage on-side slogs.

Talent my foot. For all the talks of this kids talent all he's done is take on Sodhi for an over on 60m NZ boundaries, and score a 50 on debut solely off of leg-side boundaries and ugly maneuvers. So overhyped all over social media with nothing to his name. Pakistanis have a very weird obsession with selfless, hacking intent tullaybaaz. Even Asif and Fakhar receive a 10th of the criticism they deserve with their pathetic stats and 1 in 20 performances all because they go from ball 1. This culture is so rare in Pakistan and hence is applauded, but these guys wouldn't even make NZ's reserves in T20s

So much to say but he's such a disappointment. Shouldn't don a Pakistani shirt ever again with this pathetic and immature attitude. I'm sorry, but I've been watching this game for almost 2 decades and I fail to see what's special about him. You can just tell by the 'look'. Iftikhar for all he's been clowned upon, you could always sense, had big innings in store because he wasn't fulfilling his talent and 'coming of age' in this format. But what do the casuals who are impressed by one six every 5 innings know?
 
I would have played Basit Ali Jnr or Shahwaiz in place of Haider, both of them have a sound technique and a power game.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
I would have played Basit Ali Jnr or Shahwaiz in place of Haider, both of them have a sound technique and a power game.
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Oh come on. Please let them stay away & get developed first. Remember Haider was same sort of player in his U-19 days like Basit or Shahwaiz is now. Let them play U-19 world cup first then atleast 3 domestic seasons under the belt. Youngsters shouldn't be in the team on basis of decent/good season in PSL.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 2020. Haider Ali whilst playing against England, became the first Pakistani batsman to make a 50 on T20I debut <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/LEztvBmwLA">pic.twitter.com/LEztvBmwLA</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1432973082839425026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2021</a></blockquote>
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A very costly 50 for Pakistan and for Haider. It was the worst thing that could have happened to him.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Will win us more matches than Babar and Rizwan combined.

Back him to the hilt.
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On what basis is this even being said? Like what has this guy even done so far, what is this magical eye for talent that people have? Proper legside tuller, poor technique, needs to clear his feet to access the off at fuller lengths, poor average <20 against fuller lengths anyway, limited shot selection, he premeditates just like Khushdil and Neesham which is very antithetical to a so-called generational talent. His technique is sub-par and he hasn't done anything and is even slightly overweight/not in shape. All he's done is bash Sodhi 1 over on 60m boundaries after Nawaz started the initiative & scored a 50 with all leg sided boundaries on debut. That 10 (2) was also leg-side shots lol

Respectfully, what is he showing to be called a generational talent by people on Twitter, those I know IRL, and some here? Please explain, I'm not trying to be snarky or anything...
 
This guy has some serious backer behind him since England series he has failed In all games bar one warmup game vs new Zealand.

This year 2022 in 11 games he averages 10 , that's tailender territory.
 
He is a good talent worth investing in. Pakistan made a mistake in not including him when he had just started and was high on confidence. Being in and out of team has caused him to be insecure.

This is a problem with Pakistan cricket. You have a new young batsman that scored a nice 50 in England on debut. This means he has the skill and temperament. Rather than continuing with that, you excluded him and went back to Malik and Hafeez...

Now you are back and picking him again. Why drop him in the first place?

Poor management.
 
Can't bat
Can't bowl
Can't field

Why do such pathetic cricketers get a million chances for Pakistan? :facepalm
 
arif_2021 said:
He is a good talent worth investing in. Pakistan made a mistake in not including him when he had just started and was high on confidence. Being in and out of team has caused him to be insecure.

This is a problem with Pakistan cricket. You have a new young batsman that scored a nice 50 in England on debut. This means he has the skill and temperament. Rather than continuing with that, you excluded him and went back to Malik and Hafeez...

Now you are back and picking him again. Why drop him in the first place?

Poor management.
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How many times he got life?
 
mazkhan said:
This guy has some serious backer behind him since England series he has failed In all games bar one warmup game vs new Zealand.

This year 2022 in 11 games he averages 10 , that's tailender territory.
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Exactly!! People called him talented. Not sure what is the definition of talent.
 
Shafi said:
How many times he got life?
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its not about how many.

its how about the timing and "how well you manage a talent"

you knew that malik and hafeez are not long term, yet you went back with them in prep for T20 world cup.
 
Shafi said:
Exactly!! People called him talented. Not sure what is the definition of talent.
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eye hand coordination? taking the game on?

you know as most pakistani fans do, he got out hitting the ball and being aggressive

rarely has he played a safe innings like babar and rizwan

stop comparing guys like asif and haider with babar and rizwan
 
I think he’s only going to be used as a late order hitter given his form. You can’t rely on him to stay in. Which is probably for the best at this point, you don’t want him coming in 3 or 4 under pressure right now. But Frankly I think Asif Ali is the superior hitter down the order, they both have similar averages these days.

It would have been nice to see how fakhar could have done in that position. But sadly he’s recovered too late, can understand it’s a risk giving him a new role midway World Cup.
 
Absolutely hopeless fielder.

He is in the same league as Asif Ali. Cant bat, cant field, and certainly cant bowl.

Pointless hacks!
 
I said it even before he came in to bat. I just know this guy now inside out.
 
Sick and tired now. If this hack gets another game it's time to sack the captain and entire management.
 
Deluded fans were doing bhangra after the fluke innings against New Zealand. :)))

Mentally weak, rubbish hack.
 
Haider is mentally weak and not cut out for international cricket. The pressure of the match situation got to him and he was unforgivably scared of a harmless spin bowler in Sikander Raza.
 
I have never seen such useless cricketers being part of a major cricket team, consistently failing and and still somehow playing on a regular basis.
 
psyoptica said:
I have never seen such useless cricketers being part of a major cricket team, consistently failing and and still somehow playing on a regular basis.
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It's a shame that this description could fit at least three of the options we currently have for the middle order.

If it wasn't for the thread title i genuinely wouldn't know who you are talking about.
 
Lol, put me in the team instead.

Why have we got this guy day after day.

Please put me in the team instead. I will at least enjoy it. This player looks miserable all the time.

I promise, I will contribute just as much in terms of runs.
 
He has a glaring technical issue where he plays a cross his bad.
Today was not the first time....

But even if he sorts this out he should not play for Pakistan until and unless he learns how to field.

Pathetic
 
He always looks to me someone with low IQ, he is really dumb. Cant' field , can't catch , can't score a run.
 
Haider, Asif, Khushdil, Iftikhar..These are the players that are part of a worldcup playing team. Even associate teams wouldn't select players of this caliber. How Pakistan continues to produce and then persist with such mediocre cricketers is beyond me.
 
gazza619 said:
Absolutely hopeless fielder.

He is in the same league as Asif Ali. Cant bat, cant field, and certainly cant bowl.

Pointless hacks!
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Not true he’s a better batsman than Asif Ali the problem is developing him as a batsman in T20s as a lower order slogger his technique and overall game will regress better for him to play more domestic come back as a test batsman and as an opening batsman in limited overs.

Scoring runs against weaker bowling on flat wickets in bilaterals will give him confidence and help him play longer innings at the moment he’s simply slogging and looking out of place doing it.
 
Probably the worst cricketer I have ever seen play for Pakistan Team.

Even after knowing he sucks, babar stil kept him in the team and removed Asif ALi?

Asif Ali has won more matches than this buffoon
 
Shafi said:
Most likely strong connection. This guy is just rubbish.
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naa.

He is the product of Mohammad Waseem Academy in Rawalpindi, which is why, M.Waseem tends to select him in the team once he became selector.

Babar also likes and believes in him..
 
arif_2021 said:
He is a good talent worth investing in. Pakistan made a mistake in not including him when he had just started and was high on confidence. Being in and out of team has caused him to be insecure.

This is a problem with Pakistan cricket. You have a new young batsman that scored a nice 50 in England on debut. This means he has the skill and temperament. Rather than continuing with that, you excluded him and went back to Malik and Hafeez...

Now you are back and picking him again. Why drop him in the first place?

Poor management.
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lol good talent? After 33 t20's he has not even crossed 500 runs
 
IMMY69 said:
He has a glaring technical issue where he plays a cross his bad.
Today was not the first time....

But even if he sorts this out he should not play for Pakistan until and unless he learns how to field.

Pathetic
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His problem is premeditated shots and 80% he predicts wrong and get in all sorts of trouble , when his guess is right he looks Rohit Sharmaesque in his shots. Strictly domestic material for now, unless he forgets his current technique and start from basics.
 
It's like playing cricket 22 with pitch marker off and ready yourself for coverdrive , only to be bamboozled by a short pitch bouncer.
 
This guy need to play lot of domestic cricket before playing for Pakistan.
Not his fault, selectors need to be blamed.
 
Yeah does come across as a donkey now that we've seen enough of him. Misses straight balls while defending, slogs blindly and fails to clear it 9/10 times.

Hasn't changed since he was introduced. Fans had soft corner for him for a long time which was natural to cut him some slack. But no excuses now.
 
He is not even worthy of discussion?

If he is talented, then the word itself is punished
 
The approach is poor.
The stats are poor.
Tactically poor.
Technically poor.

I'm losing faith in Haider.
 
Hes awful Poor technique and even poorer shot selection Just seems like a tailender hack who doesnt have a clue how to bat properly

Play the ball on merit and straight How difficult is that
 
Zaz said:
Hes awful Poor technique and even poorer shot selection Just seems like a tailender hack who doesnt have a clue how to bat properly

Play the ball on merit and straight How difficult is that
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Got the same feeling seeing him bat
 
Perfect example of how you need to let a youngster play domestic cricket for 3-4 years where he needs to have 2-3 good consistent seasons with the bat where he scores big runs, big daddy hundreds before being sent on A tours, if he does well on A tours only then pick him for the national side.
 
I have backed this guy a lot but he is coming across as a someone with Zero IQ, and mentally timid, those who are talking about domestic cricket, the truth is this lad has played more domestic cricket then many of those PSL stars and has decent stats as opener. Clearly he should stop playing T20 for an year focus on ODI's and longer format to sort himself out
 
He is not mentally weak he just don't know to how play cricket. When he is at the crease he picks one stance of the three , either he wait for the short pitch delivery for a hook/pull , fuller length outside the stump delivery for a cover drive or balls on stumps at good length to hoick over mid wicket , he just premeditated one of those 3 deliveries and also give it away from his stance . If the bowler bowls something which is not he is predicting, it's game over for him, Cricket is not played like this.
 
Sohaib Maqsood was also like him, although a bit better and more well-rounded player, even when his prediction were right he used to look Inzamamesque in his shot as well.
 
Needs to be dropped from international squad for a good while. Should concentrate on 4 day cricket.
 
Just a blind slogger. He is as bad as Tausuf Ahmed/Waqar Younis. Should never play international cricket as well as domestic cricket. Typical parchi who gets selected through connections.
 
Catch after catch - dropped in practice.

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MenInG said:
Catch after catch - dropped in practice.

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OMG! How did he get selected?
 
Straight to domestics , he is mentally weak and completely lost.

Misbah and Mickey thats the difference , MA backs and makes a player like Babar who is he now.

Sorry state for Haider , this guy was so high in confidence 2 years ago. By now he would’ve been the next big thing like Babar if MA was his coach, unfortunately got those bhai log as his mentor.
 
Savak said:
Perfect example of how you need to let a youngster play domestic cricket for 3-4 years where he needs to have 2-3 good consistent seasons with the bat where he scores big runs, big daddy hundreds before being sent on A tours, if he does well on A tours only then pick him for the national side.
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Sometime we overcook the talent re Saud Shakeel and then at times we undercookelala ala Haider.
 
Xoib said:
Sometime we overcook the talent re Saud Shakeel and then at times we undercookelala ala Haider.
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If Saud Shakeel is very good. He should be in the top 3-4 batters every season. If he is not then there is a problem.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Straight to domestics , he is mentally weak and completely lost.

Misbah and Mickey thats the difference , MA backs and makes a player like Babar who is he now.

Sorry state for Haider , this guy was so high in confidence 2 years ago. By now he would’ve been the next big thing like Babar if MA was his coach, unfortunately got those bhai log as his mentor.
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this is funny.
 
Another extremely talented player who I had really high hopes for. From why I have seen from him recently the boy is suffering from a lack of confidence. Hurts me to see a guy who’s got the power game full array of shots but just can’t execute it on the big scene. Needs to work hard in domestic and come back stronger. I won’t lose hope with this kid just yet.
 
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