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On a side note, just watching Hardik Pandya on Koffee with Karan last week reaffirmed my belief of how important education is. What a disaster he turned out to be with his attitude. Also flaunted the fact that he isn't educated and doesn't care one bit about it. He's lucky that he came out of a system that polished his cricketing skills otherwise he's hopeless.
 
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Never in my life I had been so angered at a cricketer before. Felt like punching his smug face. An absolutely crass and uncivilized individual. Makes me wonder how his family put up with him. The guy definitely has some deep underlying issues which he tries to hide with the garb of this pathetic attitude.
 
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Never in my life I had been so angered at a cricketer before. Felt like punching his smug face. An absolutely crass and uncivilized individual. Makes me wonder how his family put up with him. The guy definitely has some deep underlying issues which he tries to hide with the garb of this pathetic attitude.

After that interview hardik won't be marketable to more than half the population..and yes BCCI needs to do something about his attitude and education
 
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After that interview hardik won't be marketable to more than half the population..and yes BCCI needs to do something about his attitude.

He thinks he is some cool Jamaican chick magnet and can get away with everything he says or does.
Looks like a proper sadakchap to me.
 
I think there is exaggeration in the interview. It's how some guys brag about the "numbers" in front of other guy friends. And the context is very important. But somethings should be kept inside among the people who knows the dynamics. To outsider, it may come out wrong.
 
I have never seen this bad attitude ever in any Indian cricketer, like ever!!!
 
This is what happens when gully mohallah cricketers are made multi-millionaires overnight.
 
This is what happens when gully mohallah cricketers are made multi-millionaires overnight.

That's not true, Kohli(West Delhi) and Dhoni are gully Mohalla Wallas, playing local cricket before reaching this stage ,this guy is nothing like any Indian cricketer of past.
 
That's not true, Kohli(West Delhi) and Dhoni are gully Mohalla Wallas, playing local cricket before reaching this stage ,this guy is nothing like any Indian cricketer of past.

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Gully mohallah aap literally lehgaye.... I meant his standard of skill/talent/performance is gully mohallah level and not international level.
 
This is what happens when gully mohallah cricketers are made multi-millionaires overnight.

Well according to fans like [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] some of these millionaires IPL superstars don't give a damn about what fans think about them so you and I are wasting our time here. :inti
 
Well according to fans like [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] some of these millionaires IPL superstars don't give a damn about what fans think about them so you and I are wasting our time here. :inti

This multi-millionaire also does not give a damn about women or education for that matter :inti
 
That's not true, Kohli(West Delhi) and Dhoni are gully Mohalla Wallas, playing local cricket before reaching this stage ,this guy is nothing like any Indian cricketer of past.

Who told you that? Virat Kohli used to live in a society not gully mohalla.
 
This idiot may be thinking that he is being funny, but in this day and age you have to watch what you are saying. Guess money can't buy class.
 
So he like to sleep around and brag about it.

I am sure he isn't sleeping with low class, not educated female, most of them are educated and know what they are getting out of it.

Why is everyone getting upset for him being himself?
 
I think there is exaggeration in the interview. It's how some guys brag about the "numbers" in front of other guy friends. And the context is very important. But somethings should be kept inside among the people who knows the dynamics. To outsider, it may come out wrong.

Bragging about scoring chicks in front of your friends is completely different from broadcasting these views on a national television and being smug about it.
The guy even claimed to be proud of not being educated enough.
What an absolute disgraceful behavior. Indian kids look upto these people as idols. Imagine the impact on them.
 
So he like to sleep around and brag about it.

I am sure he isn't sleeping with low class, not educated female, most of them are educated and know what they are getting out of it.

Why is everyone getting upset for him being himself?

Probably upset and jealous that he gets what they can't ever in their wildest dreams so jumped on the feminist bandwagon.

There are women selling themselves to him for his money and fame with their own consent and he is only bragging about it. Don't see an issue.
 
Bragging about scoring chicks in front of your friends is completely different from broadcasting these views on a national television and being smug about it.
The guy even claimed to be proud of not being educated enough.
What an absolute disgraceful behavior. Indian kids look upto these people as idols. Imagine the impact on them.

I agree. There is a time and place. He completely missed the mark to the point where it could actually harm his selection if the wave doesn't subside soon. To save his career, he needs a good PR manager asap. Otherwise, this can go ugly in no time.
 
Bragging about scoring chicks in front of your friends is completely different from broadcasting these views on a national television and being smug about it.
The guy even claimed to be proud of not being educated enough.
What an absolute disgraceful behavior. Indian kids look upto these people as idols. Imagine the impact on them.

Rather have an uneducated honest person than a two face educated person who has to morphed into what society deemed is acceptable just because they can't do what he can.

He hasn't disrespected any female, he is just open about it.
 
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What's the issue here? Is he bragging about having fun with various women? So?

I was surprised who he was bragging to. If it was just his friends, well that is not unusual, but he is saying he brags to his family including his mother and they seem to be proud of it. I am not going to pass judgement here, could be a caste issue, which I don't know that much about. For low caste it might be a big achievement to sleep around with better caste girls, hence worth announcing to family to show social progress.
 
I was surprised who he was bragging to. If it was just his friends, well that is not unusual, but he is saying he brags to his family including his mother and they seem to be proud of it. I am not going to pass judgement here, could be a caste issue, which I don't know that much about. For low caste it might be a big achievement to sleep around with better caste girls, hence worth announcing to family to show social progress.

What caste is Pandya?

I agree this type of talk is pretty normal between young male friends but to tell your family, mother etc is a bit strange to say the least.

I think Pandya how probably has little clue of the real world, became rich and famous and now is trying to put on an act or persona which isn't him. However in his defence, many girls probably throw themselves at him because of his fame and also may tell their female friends they went with a cricketer.
 
I was surprised who he was bragging to. If it was just his friends, well that is not unusual, but he is saying he brags to his family including his mother and they seem to be proud of it. I am not going to pass judgement here, could be a caste issue, which I don't know that much about. For low caste it might be a big achievement to sleep around with better caste girls, hence worth announcing to family to show social progress.

Lol.. Its not a caste issue.

But a status issue where Pandya thinks the more you sleep around, the cooler it is.
 
apparently he also said racist stuff about african americans, ironic considering that he can pass as one.
 
How can you discuss sex life with your family? Pretty sure even the western familes dont do it. How will anyone say "Aaj mai kar ke aaya" (in pandya's words) to his mother or sister? Wow now please dont defend this just for the heck of it. We South Asians have our own standards of decency which we should abide by. This is just classless.
 
How can you discuss sex life with your family? Pretty sure even the western familes dont do it. How will anyone say "Aaj mai kar ke aaya" (in pandya's words) to his mother or sister? Wow now please dont defend this just for the heck of it. We South Asians have our own standards of decency which we should abide by. This is just classless.

Look at the posters defending his words though..
 
Can’t stand him . Absolutely nothing against his cricket , but behaves like a tapori type . Biggest wannabe ever
 
I don't understand what the issue is. Pandya claiming that he is a womaniser? So what? Its his personal life and as long as he is not breaking the law, no issues. And all Indian posters here saying that he is the worst behaved Indian cricketer ever, probably was sleeping during Shami episode. Atleast Pandya is a young single guy and was just flaunting in a show. Shami had wife and kids. Well, amused by the reaction by my fellow Indian friends but not surpised. It was on expected lines.

Also, KJO show is all about vulgarity. Where were all these feminists when Deepika Padukone was saying all those adult stuffs on the show?

Pandya is a top all rounder and as long as he performs on field, he can do whatever he wants in his personal life (within law ofcourse).
 
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How can you discuss sex life with your family? Pretty sure even the western familes dont do it. How will anyone say "Aaj mai kar ke aaya" (in pandya's words) to his mother or sister? Wow now please dont defend this just for the heck of it. We South Asians have our own standards of decency which we should abide by. This is just classless.

Many in western world openly talk about 'sex'.

Agree, that I would never be able to discuss this topic with my mother.

Many rappers openly talk about being with multiple female on national TV.

But it is understandable that sub-continent is different but he has not disrespected anyone as many would like to turn this into.

It has to do with not being comfortable to discuss it openly by the audience, not him.
 
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Which part of scoring chicks and bragging or not liking formal education or discussing your sex life with your family is illegal?

His family and those girls dont have an issue, who are you to have one?

The guy is striaght forward with what he did and what he does, its not illegal and he has not broken any laws. Deal with it.
 
What caste is Pandya?

I agree this type of talk is pretty normal between young male friends but to tell your family, mother etc is a bit strange to say the least.

I think Pandya how probably has little clue of the real world, became rich and famous and now is trying to put on an act or persona which isn't him. However in his defence, many girls probably throw themselves at him because of his fame and also may tell their female friends they went with a cricketer.

I'll somewhat agree with this. Fame came rushing and he or the family perhaps trying to adapt but not knowing the limits, it went too far. In simple words, "wannabe Rockstars"
 
I don't understand what the issue is. Pandya claiming that he is a womaniser? So what? Its his personal life and as long as he is not breaking the law, no issues. And all Indian posters here saying that he is the worst behaved Indian cricketer ever, probably was sleeping during Shami episode. Atleast Pandya is a young single guy and was just flaunting in a show. Shami had wife and kids. Well, amused by the reaction by my fellow Indian friends but not surpised. It was on expected lines.

Also, KJO show is all about vulgarity. Where were all these feminists when Deepika Padukone was saying all those adult stuffs on the show?

Pandya is a top all rounder and as long as he performs on field, he can do whatever he wants in his personal life (within law ofcourse).

This.

Was made to watch couple of episode, and every topic some how ended up on 'sex' and 'sexual'.

Pandya is just open about it.
 
Which part of scoring chicks and bragging or not liking formal education or discussing your sex life with your family is illegal?

His family and those girls dont have an issue, who are you to have one?

The guy is striaght forward with what he did and what he does, its not illegal and he has not broken any laws. Deal with it.

CJ, I think the issue comes when you make it public. If you make it public, then you should be prepared for repercussion either way.
 
LOL @ all the pansies here blasting him. Its his life and he can live it the way he wants.

His family seems to be pretty liberal and its a good thing. Better to discuss your sex life with elders rather than hide it and shove it under the rugs.

Pandya in fact said "Get educated kids". Yes, he is a failure in studies and he is a gifted athlete and he does his job pretty well in the LOI format at least.

Many cricketers are womanizers. Many successful women also do this. Its their life and you only get one chance to live. As long as you are not hurting any woman physically in the process, its all fine. He is 24yrs old and at his peak. You want him to stay at home and do Ram Bhajan when he is not playing?
 
Which part of scoring chicks and bragging or not liking formal education or discussing your sex life with your family is illegal?

His family and those girls dont have an issue, who are you to have one?

The guy is striaght forward with what he did and what he does, its not illegal and he has not broken any laws. Deal with it.

People are allowed to discuss even if it doesn't break the law lol.

Do you think it's classy to tell your mother which girls you have slept with?

Surely you have to be a right clown to say this to her "Aaj mai kar ke aaya."? Or is it normal behaviour and im conservative?
 
Many in western world openly talk about 'sex'.

Agree, that I would never be able to discuss this topic with my mother.

Many rappers openly talk about being with multiple female on national TV.

But it is understandable that sub-continent is different but he has not disrespected anyone as many would like to turn this into.

It has to do with not being comfortable to discuss it openly by the audience, not him.

Last line is important. The subject isn't that much of controversial. You'll see those interviews everyday in YouTube and no one says anything because the audience knows what to expect.

Everything has a time and place. If the audience isn't comfortable, it means the timing and place is wrong.
 
CJ, I think the issue comes when you make it public. If you make it public, then you should be prepared for repercussion either way.

As if Public don't want to live the life of Pandya.

Majority of guys would love to be Pandya right now. Its just that they are not popular and rich enough to afford all that.

Jelous people will always moan.
 
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People are allowed to discuss even if it doesn't break the law lol.

Do you think it's classy to tell your mother which girls you have slept with?

Surely you have to be a right clown to say this to her "Aaj mai kar ke aaya."? Or is it normal behaviour and im conservative?

Why not? He seems to have a great family and he can discuss anything with his parents.

Just because you feel awkward talking about sex life with your parents doesn't mean everyone has to.
 
As if Public don't want to live the life of Pandya.

Majority of guys would love to be Pandya right now. Its just that they are not popular and rich enough to afford all that.

Jelous Baattt hurt people will always moan.

I didn't deny that.

What I said was, when you make personal matters in to public, then there will be reaction which he shouldn't be surprised about.

That's why most people keep private things private. Because they don't want to deal with others judging and meddling.
 
Why not? He seems to have a great family and he can discuss anything with his parents.

Just because you feel awkward talking about sex life with your parents doesn't mean everyone has to.

I assume you do the same?

For me it's not about awkward but out of respect for women and out of respect for my parents.

But I guess some Indians want to be liberals as if they are living in Paris.
 
I assume you do the same?

For me it's not about awkward but out of respect for women and out of respect for my parents.

But I guess some Indians want to be liberals as if they are living in Paris.

My parents are old fashioned. I did discuss with my mom about Girls. She used to ask me if I have any Girl friends. I am an 80's kid. But these days, many of my friends who have pre teen kids, all have girl friends and they discuss about stuff which was a strict taboo not long ago.
 
As if Public don't want to live the life of Pandya.

Majority of guys would love to be Pandya right now. Its just that they are not popular and rich enough to afford all that.

Jelous Baattt hurt people will always moan.

You clearly seem to be missing the point here. It ain't about sleeping around or having fun. It's just full on bragging about his alleged sexual exploits and some blatant misogynistic comments which is the issue here. Cricketers enjoy a great status in India and children look up to these people.Would you want your kid to get exposed to the thoughts of such a sexist individual who shamelessly boasts about stuff like that?
 
I didn't deny that.

What I said was, when you make personal matters in to public, then there will be reaction which he shouldn't be surprised about.

That's why most people keep private things private. Because they don't want to deal with others judging and meddling.

Pandya is no Kohli. He will never be a crowd puller like Kohli. He will not lose anything in terms to Ads.

Pandya will make millions just by cricket itself. People will moan about his personal life. There will always be people who whine even if you are a Buddha.

I am sure Pandya doesn't give a rats behind about what people think about his personal life.
 
Guys, I think he was lying (flaunting rather) when he said he tell his mum whom he slept with. He is from Gujrati Brahmin family who are normally very traditional and orthodox. I can bet he was simply bluffing, like most do in KJO show.

Lets face it, we all lie infront of our friends about how many girl friends we had etc. Its a very man thing. Also, there is no denying Pandya tries very hard to act like a maverick but 99% of things he was saying in KJO may be an exxegeration.
 
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My parents are old fashioned. I did discuss with my mom about Girls. She used to ask me if I have any Girl friends. I am an 80's kid. But these days, many of my friends who have pre teen kids, all have girl friends and they discuss about stuff which was a strict taboo not long ago.

So your friends kids go their parents and brag about which girls they have been intimate with? Is this a recent phenomenom in India or something which goes back to the days of stem cell research?
 
There are a lot of uncle saabs in this thread who are out of touch with reality, he's being ripped to pieces on social media by feminists, this is the #MeToo era and he deserves all the criticism for his misogyny and stupidity.
 
You clearly seem to be missing the point here. It ain't about sleeping around or having fun. It's just full on bragging about his alleged sexual exploits and some blatant misogynistic comments which is the issue here. Cricketers enjoy a great status in India and children look up to these people.Would you want your kid to get exposed to the thoughts of such a sexist individual who shamelessly boasts about stuff like that?

How is Pandya a sexist individual? Did he say that women are worse than animals and they should be treated like cattle and make them stay at home?

He can brag all he wants. Who cares if it is true or not. If my Son wants to be like Pandya, I would tell him to be careful with certain kinds of women and I would be happy if he tells me who he is seeing.

I don't think Pandya has done anything shameful. He is doing everything with in law. Morals depend on individuals. Pandya does not have to care about what a regular person on the street thinks about his life style.
 
So your friends kids go their parents and brag about which girls they have been intimate with? Is this a recent phenomenom in India or something which goes back to the days of stem cell research?

They are too young. Only about 12 or 13. But they do tell my friends who their girl friend is.

You can cage up your kids and put them on a leash if you wish. Not everyone does that.
 
Many in western world openly talk about 'sex'.

Agree, that I would never be able to discuss this topic with my mother.

Many rappers openly talk about being with multiple female on national TV.

But it is understandable that sub-continent is different but he has not disrespected anyone as many would like to turn this into.

It has to do with not being comfortable to discuss it openly by the audience, not him.

I agree with most of what you said but I talked about proper western families with family values. Especially educated ones. Not rapper thugs or junkies who spit out junk for everybody and anybody. Most of these rappees have broken families, single mothers etc.
 
They are too young. Only about 12 or 13. But they do tell my friends who their girl friend is.

You can cage up your kids and put them on a leash if you wish. Not everyone does that.

That's a bit different to pointing out girls and saying i've been there, in only one sense.

Do you know of anyone at all who would look into his/her mothers eye, point out a person and say I have had intimate relations with this person?
 
How is Pandya a sexist individual? Did he say that women are worse than animals and they should be treated like cattle and make them stay at home?

He can brag all he wants. Who cares if it is true or not. If my Son wants to be like Pandya, I would tell him to be careful with certain kinds of women and I would be happy if he tells me who he is seeing.

I don't think Pandya has done anything shameful. He is doing everything with in law. Morals depend on individuals. Pandya does not have to care about what a regular person on the street thinks about his life style.

Kjo: Why don't you ask women's names at nightclubs?
HP: I like to watch and observe how they move? I'm little from the black side so I need to see how they move.

Yep not sexist at all.
 
Kjo: Why don't you ask women's names at nightclubs?
HP: I like to watch and observe how they move? I'm little from the black side so I need to see how they move.

Yep not sexist at all.

Watching women dance with a drink in your hand is sexist? :facepalm:
 
Karan Johar has gone worse with age. I have seen a few clips of his new series and I just dont have the nerves to watch this level of indecency.

Karan Johar incourages indecency which seems like very much in fashion.
 
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Lets not stretch and hypothesis to support your argument.

IK will never do that, he isn't another random Indian cricketer. IK isn't an entertainer, he is a PM of a nation.

My criticism is simple, he was being himself on a show that is famous to have sexual innuendo and he did not disrespect any female as many are trying to say.

If the criticism was that we aren't comfortable to watch it then it would have been valid criticism.

Why not? You in your original post didn't specify any conditions did you so why not stretch the argument a bit further and take it outside your comfort zone?

And Hardik isnt just some low life rapper. He represents India at an international level and therefore should think twice before spewing garbage like this everytime he's on tv.
 
Why not? You in your original post didn't specify any conditions did you so why not stretch the argument a bit further and take it outside your comfort zone?

And Hardik isnt just some low life rapper. He represents India at an international level and therefore should think twice before spewing garbage like this everytime he's on tv.

Okay.

I won't play that game. This isn't a contract i am signing to specify conditions.

If IK wants to brag about his personal life then he has all the rights, at the end of the day what matters to me is how he perform as a politician.

Hardik is an entertainer who play cricket not just for India to entertain people.

It is yours and few audience comfort level that is an issue which they have turn into disrespecting female, which he hasn't.

Let me repeat, had the criticism was we aren't comfortable with this on national TV then I would have no criticism, but the minute they used 'disrespecting female' card that when all the criticism against those become valid.
 
Karan Johar has gone worse with age. I have seen a few clips of his new series and I just dont have the nerves to watch this level of indecency.

Karan Johar incourages indecency which seems like very much in fashion.

This, everything comes out of Karan's mouth is either directly or indirectly sexual.
 
I agree with most of what you said but I talked about proper western families with family values. Especially educated ones. Not rapper thugs or junkies who spit out junk for everybody and anybody. Most of these rappees have broken families, single mothers etc.

Agree.

But it isn't looked as disrespecting female.
 
So your friends kids go their parents and brag about which girls they have been intimate with? Is this a recent phenomenom in India or something which goes back to the days of stem cell research?

No one does that , I dont think it even happens in the west .

whats normal is to be open about relationships and parents are probably quite aware that relationship implies they would be sexually active ..lot different from my days when it was all hush hush
 
The BCCI being a professional board should reprimand him and warn him that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated. Just because you have fame, money does not give you the license to look down upon others.
 
The BCCI being a professional board should reprimand him and warn him that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated. Just because you have fame, money does not give you the license to look down upon others.

Doubt this will happen when you have the likes of BCCI CEO Rahul Johri accussed of sexual harrasment.
 
LOL @ all the people here blasting him. Its his life and he can live it the way he wants.

His family seems to be pretty liberal and its a good thing. Better to discuss your sex life with elders rather than hide it and shove it under the rugs.

Pandya in fact said "Get educated kids". Yes, he is a failure in studies and he is a gifted athlete and he does his job pretty well in the LOI format at least.

Many cricketers are womanizers. Many successful women also do this. Its their life and you only get one chance to live. As long as you are not hurting any woman physically in the process, its all fine. He is 24yrs old and at his peak. You want him to stay at home and do Ram Bhajan when he is not playing?

you're old and out of touch, he's being blasted on social media mostly by young people, especially females. What you're reading on here is nowhere near as worse as the things being said about him on social media. Predators and their enablers such as you guys are no acceptable in society.
 
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Very poor from Hardik. Surely has damaged his name and has alienated lots of his fans. Some very horrible comments that and it sounded very creepy to be frank.
 
Well according to fans like [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] some of these millionaires IPL superstars don't give a damn about what fans think about them so you and I are wasting our time here. :inti

It appears that I am now also living rent-free in your head, with Rahul as my neighbor. We hang out in the evenings on the sofa drinking beer and chuckling at how we have triggered some souls.
 
India doesn't have the same percentage as the US or Europe of snowflakes who are easily triggered, so I doubt Pandya will face any pressure to toe the politically correct line.

I am sure Indian women are quite capable of giving back to Pandya more than he said. Look forward to seeing him slapped, then we can laugh and move on saying "boys will boys and girls will be girls".

We are talking of a culture that gave the world the sculptures of Halebid and Belur, which has nothing in similar to the hyper-puritan morality male celebrities in the West are expected to publicly adhere to, while of course sexually assaulting countless women and even underage girls (Polanski, Weinstein, Clinton, etc).
 
I totally hate Pandya, however had a woman said this about men, it wouldn't have been taken this negatively. In fact, it would have been called feminism/empowerment by some.

E.g. There was this stupid sequence in a recent bollywood movie where the actress made some lewd remarks about a guy's butt and it was applauded as "Bollywood coming of age".

We are living in a stupid world.
 
CJ, I think the issue comes when you make it public. If you make it public, then you should be prepared for repercussion either way.

When is going public illegal? This is nothing but elitist behaviour. A guy from a middle class family is all bling and talks about scoring chicks and not wanting education and everyone is up in arms.

Watch a few KWK shows and see what people like Ranbir Arjun etc etc say about their sex lives.
 
Coming on to Hardik. He's an idiot and a very lucky man to get all the money at this age. Also his apology on SM means nothing.
 
When is going public illegal? This is nothing but elitist behaviour. A guy from a middle class family is all bling and talks about scoring chicks and not wanting education and everyone is up in arms.

Watch a few KWK shows and see what people like Ranbir Arjun etc etc say about their sex lives.

You're out of touch with the modern age, it's not about the legality of what he said. It's legal to be a creep/pervert but people will call you a creep and ostracize you for it (rightfully).
 
you're old and out of touch, he's being blasted on social media mostly by young people, especially females. What you're reading on here is nowhere near as worse as the things being said about him on social media. Predators and their enablers such as you guys are no acceptable in society.

Predators? Pandya is a predator? Lol.

Feminists can whine all they want, but as long as the ones who were with Pandya dont complain, its a non issue legally.
 
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