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Hardik Pandya vs Faheem Ashraf

I don't know about much more but they look incredibly similar. Almost doppelgangers.
 
Pandya will always come on top, heres why:

India is a more professional board and knows how to manage and take care of their players, both of these newbies are fresh, although hardik has more experience, whichever board will have more trust and investment in their all rounder will show which of them come on top.

Hardik also participates in the IPL which is much better than the PSL as more goes into the former, there are more international stars, pitches that will test his bowling and enable him to hone his hitting skills.

Right now there is no saying if Fahim has natural talent as he has not even batted yet, his bowling right now seems erratic, got lucky with Chandi's wicket as it was dragged on.

We shall see my friend... we shall see...
 
Faheem has a lot of development to do, Pandaya looks to be a really decent bat ( i have not seen Fahim bat) and out of the 2 He is also the better bowler. Fahim can be properly be judged in years time.
 
I dont know if you guys are talking about his looks or his game, but Hasan Ali seems more of his equivalent.
 
Pandya could easily rival Stokes as the best all-rounder in the world if he focuses on his batting and gets more chances up the order, which I suspect he will after Dhoni leaves. He's a very talented young cricketer who will be an integral part of India's 2019 campaign.

Fahim is relatively new at this point but I feel he has raw talent like so many Pakistani players and if that's groomed properly then he could be that seamer/hitter we have desperately needed.

And yes they both look quite similar. Bowling actions are quite similar too
 
Pandya is the new blue eyed kid of Indian team.. Hopefully he is developed like how Kohli was developed and he can be the all rounder we have always craved for..
 
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
 
Mamoon said:
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
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And why is that? Pandya is an ordinary cricketer right now. The definition of bits and pieces. Cant form an opinion on Fahim Ashraf until he's played a few matches.
 
Thought Pandya is a tooth pick. Looks like he worked out a lot in the past year and he looks extremely athletic. Not an ounce of fat.
 
Usman Chadda said:
And why is that? Pandya is an ordinary cricketer right now. The definition of bits and pieces. Cant form an opinion on Fahim Ashraf until he's played a few matches.
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Great fielder, very good striker, can bowl a bit. Works hard on his fitness and oozes star quality. Doesn't look ordinary to me, India have been looking for someone like him. I will be surprised if Fahim doesn't fade away like Anwar and Bhatti.
 
Usman Chadda said:
And why is that? Pandya is an ordinary cricketer right now. The definition of bits and pieces. Cant form an opinion on Fahim Ashraf until he's played a few matches.
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Let me pull an Akmal and Sehzad here and claim that he is a youngster and has all the time to learn.

He just started and he is just 23, he is already a known name and looks like improving with time.

Having bigger stars in team also keeps his ego in check, and with the mentors in the team he seems to be on the right path.
 
troodon said:
Thought Pandya is a tooth pick. Looks like he worked out a lot in the past year and he looks extremely athletic. Not an ounce of fat.
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He is pretty young right now, with age he will pick up mass and will get bigger if he stays disciplined with his workout.
 
hardik pandya is star quality even now.

fahim ashraf's biggest achievement so far is a 50 in a warm up game.

no comparison at the moment.
 
CricFan2012 said:
Pandya will always come on top, heres why:

India is a more professional board and knows how to manage and take care of their players, both of these newbies are fresh, although hardik has more experience, whichever board will have more trust and investment in their all rounder will show which of them come on top.

Hardik also participates in the IPL which is much better than the PSL as more goes into the former, there are more international stars, pitches that will test his bowling and enable him to hone his hitting skills.

Right now there is no saying if Fahim has natural talent as he has not even batted yet, his bowling right now seems erratic, got lucky with Chandi's wicket as it was dragged on.

We shall see my friend... we shall see...
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actually true.... bowling wise, they have similar speeds but Pandya has much better control but then he has been playing high level cricket for a good 12-18 months. batting wise, i think Fahim might have an edge on him.. havent seen much but he looks good...

lets see if he gets a PSL contract and how he performs there and hopefully he is picked by Lahore as he would benifit by working with Aaqib....
 
Mamoon said:
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
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Poor man's andre russel

better than Fahim but i think you are going OTT
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Poor man's andre russel

better than Fahim but i think you are going OTT
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Russel is a freak, one of the most gifted athletes to ever play the game, but Pandya is the new blue-eyed boy of Indian cricket. Everyone in India rates him highly and he is going to get ample opportunities. As I said, he reminds me a bit of a young Jadeja.

As far as Fahim is concerned, we have seen such players come and go for Pakistan. I hope he bucks the trend, but I won't be surprised if we add him to the Anwar/Bhatti/Hammad/Tanvir/Imad/Nawaz list, and they all started on a good note. Not a single all-rounder has lived up to the hype. Shadab is an exception because he makes the team purely as a bowler, and his batting is a bonus.
 
omcswe said:
your question only proves my point that this isn't a comparison worth talking about at this current moment.
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So he's played 2 games and one game he practically won on his own.

Sorry bit Pandya isn't Star quality yet, he's a bit of a spin Basher and lacks bowling awareness. I think he was dropped from the Indian team for getting too predictable with his Short Bowling.
 
Finisher said:
So he's played 2 games and one game he practically won on his own.

Sorry bit Pandya isn't Star quality yet, he's a bit of a spin Basher and lacks bowling awareness. I think he was dropped from the Indian team for getting too predictable with his Short Bowling.
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as long as he is bashing some kind of bowling.
 
IndYeah1 said:
Don't be Jelly.


Haterz gonna hate.:afridi1
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dont get me wrong given pakistan's inability to produce a good allrounder since Abdul Razzaq I would not mind Pandya at all, but I dont see him as a potential great all rounder, decent at best. He is far too bits and pieces imo
 
omcswe said:
as long as he is bashing some kind of bowling.
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He won't be getting a left arm darter bowling the final over of a one day game to him every day.
Let's see how he does against Quality bowling line ups first.
 
Finisher said:
He won't be getting a left arm darter bowling the final over of a one day game to him every day.
Let's see how he does against Quality bowling line ups first.
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His domestic stats are garbage as well.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
dont get me wrong given pakistan's inability to produce a good allrounder since Abdul Razzaq I would not mind Pandya at all, but I dont see him as a potential great all rounder, decent at best. He is far too bits and pieces imo
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That's because you probably haven't seen him bat much. He didn't start bowling until a couple of years ago, so his bowling is definitely a work in progress. But his batting is decent. He's not just a legside hack. He can score on both side of the wicket, has a competent defense as well. He's a bonafide lower middle order batsman who can give you a bit of bowling. And he has decent pace for an allrounder. If he keeps improving, he may yet develop into a quality allrounder.

Forget great, even if he's just good - not even very good - he will be a huge difference maker to the Indian team. They already have the other departments checked off - batting, quality spin, quality pace, decent 'keeping prospects. And because of that, his numbers will be bumped up to probably better than deserved.
 
Mamoon said:
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
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Bhai, you should stop these future predictions, they mostly backfire.
 
Mamoon said:
Great fielder, very good striker, can bowl a bit. Works hard on his fitness and oozes star quality. Doesn't look ordinary to me, India have been looking for someone like him. I will be surprised if Fahim doesn't fade away like Anwar and Bhatti.
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Another failed prediction in the making
 
Napa said:
There indeed is little resemblance. Pandya has sunken cheeks like professional athletes do, and Faheem has puffed up cheeks like those who live well do.
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Many Pak players look Chubby. They are all well fed I guess.
 
hitthestump said:
I agree with this. The face tells a lot about the bodyfat %.
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Right. Cheeks are one of the places where body fat tends to accumulate. A chubby face is a sure sign of someone who won't have the endurance of a top athlete.
 
Pandya's effortless 90 meter sixes against spin and pace is going to make oppositions think twice about their bowling changes. He is the guy who scored 34 runs in one over in a domestic match. Definitely will be very handy. He also hits 140 k easily. Also very athletic fielder. He is a genuine all rounder who is not bad in any one of the department. He is a much improved version of Yusuf Pathan who himself can be lethal on his day.
 
Napa said:
Please enlighten us what other prediction has failed earlier?
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Lots went wrong. Off the top of my head, I remember him saying India would lose the WC match against Pakistan in 2015 and what's more, he predicted Pakistan would defeat India in this CT match as well and Kohli would fail. You know how they all turned out.
 
Napa said:
Right. Cheeks are one of the places where body fat tends to accumulate. A chubby face is a sure sign of someone who won't have the endurance of a top athlete.
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That's a bunch of baloney.

Fat storage is genetics. You could be 8% body fat and look chubby from the cheeks. Not saying that holds true for Fahim Ashraf but in general.
 
kingusama92 said:
That's a bunch of baloney.

Fat storage is genetics. You could be 8% body fat and look chubby from the cheeks. Not saying that holds true for Fahim Ashraf but in general.
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Please do share a pic of a successful athlete with chubby cheeks.
 
Mamoon said:
Russel is a freak, one of the most gifted athletes to ever play the game, but Pandya is the new blue-eyed boy of Indian cricket. Everyone in India rates him highly and he is going to get ample opportunities. As I said, he reminds me a bit of a young Jadeja.

As far as Fahim is concerned, we have seen such players come and go for Pakistan. I hope he bucks the trend, but I won't be surprised if we add him to the Anwar/Bhatti/Hammad/Tanvir/Imad/Nawaz list, and they all started on a good note. Not a single all-rounder has lived up to the hype. Shadab is an exception because he makes the team purely as a bowler, and his batting is a bonus.
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Imad is mediocre but is still a starter in the team and is certainly better than the others.
 
Mamoon said:
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
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lol at future indian captain

i hope he is though as that would indicate the depths to which they would have fallen if he is the captain
 
Napa said:
Please enlighten us what other prediction has failed earlier?
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lol you could list a 100 literally

though its also a case of making 100s of predictions so them coming wrong is more likely

but quite a few standout ones.
 
pandya will be better than fahim in the long run but neither will be breaking any world records

pandya's bowling is very mazaydaar have to say
 
kingusama92 said:
That's a bunch of baloney.

Fat storage is genetics. You could be 8% body fat and look chubby from the cheeks. Not saying that holds true for Fahim Ashraf but in general.
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I agree. The first place where fat tends to accumulate (and the last place wherefrom it disappears) is your abdomen. Although ideally, one wouldnt want to gain fat anywhere, some people (like myself) who are very slim and ectomorphs still retain some of the fat pads in the cheeks that we had as an infant.
 
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Pandya is getting the Sir Jadeja/Rohit treatment where the captain will stick with him even if he fails quite a bit because they see something in him. Hopefully Pakistan will do the same with their youngsta beauties. :waqar
 
Considering that India doesnt have three outstanding fast bowlers so Pandya will remain playing with two seamers an two spinners.

While for Faheem its difficult to play a lot of matches with three world class fast bowlers Amir, Junaid and Hassan but Faheem will definitely remain in the team and will play instead of Shadab or Imad against asian sides and favorable conditions.

So obviously Pandya is going to get more exposure of playing international matches but does he or does faheem turn out to be a better player only time will tell.
 
Yes . Yes . Yes !

Another Pakistani youngsta beauty vs Indian noobie thread.

We'll need a Fakhar Zaman vs Rishab Pant one soon.
 
Slog said:
lol at future indian captain

i hope he is though as that would indicate the depths to which they would have fallen if he is the captain
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Kohli will lead the team for another 7-8 years so the current generation of Indian players will not get a chance to lead the team. That leaves the likes of Pandya, KL Rahul and perhaps some of the other young players who are yet to establish themselves such as Pant, Samson etc. as strong contenders.

Pandya is rated very highly in Indian cricket circles. From BCCI to Kohli himself, they all consider him a big player in the making. He is the new Jadeja (before he become a world class spinner in Tests) and will be a fixture in the team. Not to forget, he has some star quality as well. I'd say at this point, he is very likely to be a strong candidate in the future.

Most importantly, he lead India A against Australia earlier this year. A clear indication that BCCI are looking at him as a potential future captain. Hence, the idea of Pandya leading India after Kohli may not be as outlandish as you think.
 
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Mamoon said:
Kohli will lead the team for another 7-8 years so the current generation of Indian players will not get a chance to lead the team. That leaves the likes of Pandya, KL Rahul and perhaps some of the other young players who are yet to establish themselves such as Pant, Samson etc. as strong contenders.

Pandya is rated very highly in Indian cricket circles. From BCCI to Kohli himself, they all consider him a big player in the making. He is the new Jadeja (before he become a world class spinner in Tests) and will be a fixture in the team. Not to forget, he has some star quality as well. I'd say at this point, he is very likely to be a strong candidate in the future.

Most importantly, he lead India A against Australia earlier this year. A clear indication that BCCI are looking at him as a potential future captain. Hence, the idea of Pandya leading India after Kohli may not be as outlandish as you think.
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led*
 
I actually know very little about Pandya. He's only played 10 games. By that benchmark i know absolutely nothing about fahim ashraf.
The general consensus would Pandya has had more exposure to big match situations than fahim.
Thats about as far as I can go.
 
Pandya looks like a real international athlete....sorry to say but this Ashraf looks to be in the same shape as a passionate Sunday league cricketer who has a 9-5 job on the weekdays
 
First time I've really seen Pandiya and I'm impressed. Don't know what his batting is like but he looks a better bowler than Faheem by some distance from seeing them both after a game each. He bowls at around 140 for a start, whereas Ashraf is more like 135kph.
 
The biggest mistake I think Pakistan made is playing 2-3 spinners

I would would have added Rumman Raees over Shadab against India...

Indian spinners look so easy on this pitch.. and Indian batsmen will play better Pak spinner...

Rumman Raees could be a great option today as fourth fast bowler...
 
Mamoon said:
Pandya. He is a star in the making and future Indian captain.

Can't compare Indian players to Pakistani players these days. They are at a different level.
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Usman Chadda said:
And why is that? Pandya is an ordinary cricketer right now. The definition of bits and pieces. Cant form an opinion on Fahim Ashraf until he's played a few matches.
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IAJ said:
Bhai, you should stop these future predictions, they mostly backfire.
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Azzurri said:
Another failed prediction in the making
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Slog said:
lol at future indian captain

i hope he is though as that would indicate the depths to which they would have fallen if he is the captain
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mamoon was right

pandya is special and he definitely has the credentials to be the next indian captain
 
Azzurri said:
Exactly Both bits and pieces players :))
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No, not at all. Panday is doing a fine job and is on the rise with both bat and ball. He will be the allrounder India was seeking all this time. If you ask me, in a couple of years, he will be right up there with the likes of Shakib and Stokes (modern day AR). As for Ashraf, i'll reserve my judgment over his ability for now since I have not seen him play much.
 
Pandya has a headstart now.
He is now a surety in ODI and T20.
Tests , he has made good start with a 50 and 100 in 3 tests and cruical wickets when opposition was going strong even if SL was the mediocre opposition
Fielding and catching is also good.
 
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