Harry Brook handed Two-Year IPL Ban for last-minute withdrawal to focus on International Cricket

[IMMY69]

Well like I said before, foreign players should only consider IPL or any other league as they enter the final stages of their careers..

A young player should aspire to play for their country and be putting the hard yards in to first class cricket..

This way everyone is a winner

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

lol no one is upset. He has banned as that was the rule set in before start of thr IPL

He is very talented but has been a huge failure in india until now. Next t20 World Cup in india and it so foolish of him to miss out a chance to improve his game against spin where he is laughably bad. So yeah it is loss both money wise and experience wise.

I don't see how the IPL is the only way for him to improve his game against spin. It is not the be all end all you are making it out to be. Besides most pitches in the IPL are very flat and batting friendly. A 5 match test series in India or a 2 match test series in Sri Lanka would be more helpful in improving his game against spin.

Like I said, not everybody's life revolves entirely around money. Some people actually play this sport to make a name for themself and achieve something for their country. Also maybe you're not aware of how much his England central contract is valued but it's exactly chump change.

Alot of Indians are clearly very upset about it, evident by their replies on this thread. Which is funny because he was pretty well-aware that he would be getting banned for 2 years and still went ahead with pulling out.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

nobody is denying that the IPL is the biggest and most prestigious T20 league in the world—every player wants a piece of it. But at the end of the day, it’s still just a T20 league. I think some Indian fans tend to delude themselves into believing that foreign players care about it for more than what it really is: a lucrative opportunity. Like how dare these foreign players pull out or not give their undivided attention to our league? Its pretty amusing. People have other priorities in life, and when you're financially secure—like many English and Australian players are—you can afford to skip the IPL, or even risk a ban, without losing sleep over it.

 

[Sachin fan]

nobody is denying that the IPL is the biggest and most prestigious T20 league in the world—every player wants a piece of it. But at the end of the day, it’s still just a T20 league. I think some Indian fans tend to delude themselves into believing that foreign players care about it for more than what it really is: a lucrative opportunity. Like how dare these foreign players pull out or not give their undivided attention to our league? Its pretty amusing. People have other priorities in life, and when you're financially secure—like many English and Australian players are—you can afford to skip the IPL, or even risk a ban, without losing sleep over it.

Making people spend time and effort into plans and then pulling out last moment is unprofessional. There is nothing "how dare", about it.

You guys are deliberately pretending to be dumb and not understanding what the issue is.


It doesn't matter how important something is, making other people spend time and effort and planning on you and then pulling out last moment is despicable and such people generally don't progress in life as their unprofessionalism reflects in other aspects too.

PSL is much less important than IPL, that doesn't mean players pulling out last moment from it after teams make efforts and plans, is not equally unprofessional.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Making people spend time and effort into plans and then pulling out last moment is unprofessional. There is nothing "how dare", about it.

You guys are deliberately pretending to be dumb and not understanding what the issue is.


It doesn't matter how important something is, making other people spend time and effort and planning on you and then pulling out last moment is despicable and such people generally don't progress in life as their unprofessionalism reflects in other aspects too.

PSL is much less important than IPL, that doesn't mean players pulling out last moment from it after teams make efforts and plans, is not equally unprofessional.

Last I checked, Harry Brook is under an ECB central contract—not a Delhi Capitals central contract. Therefore he owes DC absolutely nothing. His loyalty is to English cricket, not to some T20 league franchise that treats players like disposable assets.

There is nothing unprofessional about stepping back for personal reasons or national duty. There are far more important and meaningful things in the world than franchise league cricket. Also, calling someone “despicable” for prioritizing their career or mental health is just downright ignorant. Franchise teams don’t own players. And if your entire “planning” falls apart because of one player's withdrawal, maybe you should be questioning the competence of the team management, rather than the character of the player. Consdiering the fact that teh team is doing just fine without him, your outrage isn’t about disrupted planning; it’s just misplaced entitlement. You're acting like you’ve been personally wronged.

Try understanding how professional sports actually work before throwing around loaded words like “unprofessional.”

 

[Sachin fan]

Last I checked, Harry Brook is under an ECB central contract—not a Delhi Capitals central contract. Therefore he owes DC absolutely nothing. His loyalty is to English cricket, not to some T20 league franchise that treats players like disposable assets.

There is nothing unprofessional about stepping back for personal reasons or national duty. There are far more important and meaningful things in the world than franchise league cricket. Also, calling someone “despicable” for prioritizing their career or mental health is just downright ignorant. Franchise teams don’t own players. And if your entire “planning” falls apart because of one player's withdrawal, maybe you should be questioning the competence of the team management, rather than the character of the player. Consdiering the fact that teh team is doing just fine without him, your outrage isn’t about disrupted planning; it’s just misplaced entitlement. You're acting like you’ve been personally wronged.

Try understanding how professional sports actually work before throwing around loaded words like “unprofessional.”

Once again pretending to be dumb. No one cares if he didn't play IPL or prioritizes country over leagues. It is because he willingly entered the auction, taking people's time and effort and then backing out.

IPL has lots of exception based on players physical and mental health and people pull out all the time and face no punishment. That's not what Brook did.

It doesn't matter if the franchise is playing well, a lot of effort and plans were wasted on Brook.

Some Asian people might be ok to be treated disrespectfully by Western people, but not all are. If you don't respect something or someone and are unprofessional, you get the same back. Not everyone has a slave mentality, not everyone entertains unprofessional super stars.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Once again pretending to be dumb. No one cares if he didn't play IPL or prioritizes country over leagues. It is because he willingly entered the auction, taking people's time and effort and then backing out.

IPL has lots of exception based on players physical and mental health and people pull out all the time and face no punishment. That's not what Brook did.

It doesn't matter if the franchise is playing well, a lot of effort and plans were wasted on Brook.

Some Asian people might be ok to be treated disrespectfully by Western people, but not all are. If you don't respect something or someone and are unprofessional, you get the same back. Not everyone has a slave mentality, not everyone entertains unprofessional super stars.

Once again demonstrating misplaced entitlement like you've been personally wronged, and then doubling down with some bizarre superiority complex.

Harry Brook entering the IPL auction doesn’t bind him in blood. Every player, every team, and every board knows that. The reason he is banned is because he pulled out two years in a row. One of those years was because of mental health reasons. So stop acting like he committed fraud.

Teams gamble at auctions all the time. Sometimes players get injured, sometimes they pull out. It’s part of the game. If your planning is that fragile, that’s your problem—not his. If you feel like he violated the spirit of your league and took advantage of it, ban him. End of story. What more do you want to do? Throw him in kaala paani?

I'm not even going to get into your bizarre rant about “Asian people” and “slave mentality”, its too ridiculous to be even taken seriously. But yet again it shows your misplaced sense of entitlement. None of this is about you, so stop flattering yourself. Trying to drag nationality into a basic professional decision just shows how weak the argument really is.

Bottom-line: Brook doesn’t owe you, the IPL, or your imaginary moral code anything.

 

[SportsWarrior]

IPL thinking it’s more important than it actually is lol

Doubt Harry cares. Nobody will remember a player for being amazing in some league in India. No matter how much it pays.

Legacies are built in international cricket. Everyone knows that.

Harry cared enough to put his name in the auction. Cared enough to play in the IPL and show that he is a pretty average cricketer against spin. He thought IPL would be a walk in the park like PSL and was shown that he needs to improve his game and perform in India. Instead of doing that he ran away. Now if he did not register for auction you can claim he wanted to prioritize his country. But he didn't. He got into auction, saw that price and decided that is not enough to make a fool of himself in front people. That is perfectly fine but his decision is not due to some higher intentions.

 

[SportsWarrior]

There is a difference, India has the purse and pockets to implement this approach of blanket banning because they know that players in general don't have alternatives ie the IPL is their only source of life changing sums of money, and now that many IPL owners are buying teams in the ILT20, SAT20, Carribean League, Hundred, MLC T20, foreign players will now soon realize that if they **** off an IPL franchise owner, very likely they will lose opportunities in all the other leagues as well.

Cricket Australia is now considering selling the big Bash teams to private individuals as well.

Pakistani psl owners in comparison cannot afford to ban foreign players from the PSL unless they pull off a stunt like James Faulkner did because they need the foreign players more than the other way around and they cannot afford to pay them the life changing sums of money that the IPL franchise owners do and that the foreign players have many alternatives to the PSL.

It is a sad situation of the PCB and the PSL franchise owners having to tread carefully and making the most out of a bad weak situation

There is literally no ban on Pakistani players by IPL governing body. There is no ban by Indian government. Any IPL team can pick a Pakistani player. They will get the visas although it will be a drawn out and will take long time to get them. IPL teams have shadow banned them just because they don't want to go through the hassle and don't want to antagonize their fan base. Government or BCCI has nothing to do with this.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Nothing but respect to this young star for prioritising national team over a T20 league and letting go all the money so early in his career. We sometimes wish if star Bharatiya cricketers would skip a few games in IPL to stay fit for an upcoming test series but they don’t do it and here’s Harry Brook setting an example.

I wish him the best.

The BCCI has done him a solid. he now has extended his longevity and exempted him for the malarkey that is IPL.

This reminds me of the first gig I had after undergraduate. Two years into the job, and 11 years ago (give or take a week or two), the practice lead was like we need to let you go since we want you to just focus on work (I was going to grad school part time). It felt harsh, it felt punitive. But in hindsight, it was the best thing ever as I decided to take a semester to just study and then went back to look for work and since then saw a 20% increase in compensation year over year, every year.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Harry cared enough to put his name in the auction. Cared enough to play in the IPL and show that he is a pretty average cricketer against spin. He thought IPL would be a walk in the park like PSL and was shown that he needs to improve his game and perform in India. Instead of doing that he ran away. Now if he did not register for auction you can claim he wanted to prioritize his country. But he didn't. He got into auction, saw that price and decided that is not enough to make a fool of himself in front people. That is perfectly fine but his decision is not due to some higher intentions.

It does not matter. If you turn down a job offer, you dont get banned from the job market for two years. He is well within his rights to make a decision in his self interest.

The IPL serves no purpose except maybe enriching the players and more so, the team owners. There is no deep historical rivalry, the bloody affair is only ten years old, there is no cultural significance to the teams, the team roster is not local talent representation. It is all just a big farce. And only the most desperate cricket fans watch this slop.

 

[captain.hansolo]

There is literally no ban on Pakistani players by IPL governing body. There is no ban by Indian government. Any IPL team can pick a Pakistani player. They will get the visas although it will be a drawn out and will take long time to get them. IPL teams have shadow banned them just because they don't want to go through the hassle and don't want to antagonize their fan base. Government or BCCI has nothing to do with this.

you live in a world separated from reality.

 

[HitWicket]

Once again pretending to be dumb. No one cares if he didn't play IPL or prioritizes country over leagues. It is because he willingly entered the auction, taking people's time and effort and then backing out.

IPL has lots of exception based on players physical and mental health and people pull out all the time and face no punishment. That's not what Brook did.

It doesn't matter if the franchise is playing well, a lot of effort and plans were wasted on Brook.

Some Asian people might be ok to be treated disrespectfully by Western people, but not all are. If you don't respect something or someone and are unprofessional, you get the same back. Not everyone has a slave mentality, not everyone entertains unprofessional super stars.

Brook would've been banned for the same period even if he withdrew before the auction. Let's not pretend this is about the inconvenience to the franchise, it's about trying to force players to act in the best interests of the league rather than their own best interests.

Harry cared enough to put his name in the auction. Cared enough to play in the IPL and show that he is a pretty average cricketer against spin. He thought IPL would be a walk in the park like PSL and was shown that he needs to improve his game and perform in India. Instead of doing that he ran away. Now if he did not register for auction you can claim he wanted to prioritize his country. But he didn't. He got into auction, saw that price and decided that is not enough to make a fool of himself in front people. That is perfectly fine but his decision is not due to some higher intentions.

If Brook hadn't withdrawn he would have had to have missed a significant amount of England games to manage his workload, he's missing it to try and reduce the amount of England games he misses.

 

[Savak]

There is literally no ban on Pakistani players by IPL governing body. There is no ban by Indian government. Any IPL team can pick a Pakistani player. They will get the visas although it will be a drawn out and will take long time to get them. IPL teams have shadow banned them just because they don't want to go through the hassle and don't want to antagonize their fan base. Government or BCCI has nothing to do with this.

I agree. That's the truth. India has the financial muscle power to blacklist and ignore the Pakistani players knowing full well they can't get the fast life changing sums of money from any where else. Even if a prime Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis were playing, the IPL franchise owners would still have ignored them because they have alternative world class players to choose from.

 

[Sachin fan]

Brook would've been banned for the same period even if he withdrew before the auction. Let's not pretend this is about the inconvenience to the franchise, it's about trying to force players to act in the best interests of the league rather than their own best interests.



If Brook hadn't withdrawn he would have had to have missed a significant amount of England games to manage his workload, he's missing it to try and reduce the amount of England games he misses.

Dude why are you making up lies? There is no rule against withdrawing before the auction, the IPL rules clearly states that if a player withdraws after entering auction and if they are selected and there is no clear reason like health or family issues, only then they are banned.

The rule is crystal clear. Many players have withdrawn before auctions or for health reason after auction and have faced no band.

 

[HitWicket]

Dude why are you making up lies? There is no rule against withdrawing before the auction, the IPL rules clearly states that if a player withdraws after entering auction and if they are selected and there is no clear reason like health or family issues, only then they are banned.

The rule is crystal clear. Many players have withdrawn before auctions or for health reason after auction and have faced no band.

If Brook hadn't entered the auction this year then because he has previously played in the tournament he would have been banned until the next mega auction. I.e a 2 year ban, the same as he has received for withdrawing after the auction.

 

[emranabbas]

It's OK Harry Brook can play PSL next season

 

[mominsaigol]

Making people spend time and effort into plans and then pulling out last moment is unprofessional. There is nothing "how dare", about it.

You guys are deliberately pretending to be dumb and not understanding what the issue is.


It doesn't matter how important something is, making other people spend time and effort and planning on you and then pulling out last moment is despicable and such people generally don't progress in life as their unprofessionalism reflects in other aspects too.

PSL is much less important than IPL, that doesn't mean players pulling out last moment from it after teams make efforts and plans, is not equally unprofessional.

The main issue isn't him refusing to play the league.

The main issue is him pulling out when rich investors spent buckloads of money investing in him.

Even if their super rich, that's still alot of money gone down the drain and it ruins their public image hence the ban

 

[SportsWarrior]

I agree. That's the truth. India has the financial muscle power to blacklist and ignore the Pakistani players knowing full well they can't get the fast life changing sums of money from any where else. Even if a prime Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis were playing, the IPL franchise owners would still have ignored them because they have alternative world class players to choose from.

Unfortunately Pakistan doesn’t have the superstars like whom you quoted. We all grew up watching them and honestly admired them even with so much political differences. Last major superstar who brought Indian crowd to watch Pakistani matches was probably Shoaib Akthar.

This doesn’t mean Pak won’t have them in the future. Pak has a great fundamentals and legacy to rely on. Once the economy turns around and Pak is able to find some stability things will look up. But for the long term peace and prosperity Pakistan has to find a solution with India. The way both countries are progressing Pakistan has lot to lose with the status quo

 

[SportsWarrior]

The main issue isn't him refusing to play the league.

The main issue is him pulling out when rich investors spent buckloads of money investing in him.

Even if their super rich, that's still alot of money gone down the drain and it ruins their public image hence the ban

It is not just about the lost money. Harry brook isn’t a big star player like Warner or Cummins. It is also about the franchises losing their ability to field their best combination. Franchises go to auction with an action plan and try to fill the roles and go after players. If a player withdraws after the auction it robs the opportunity for that franchise. If they had known earlier they would have gone for someone else. So that kind of behavior needs to be curbed. PSL and all other T20 leagues should adopt the same approach

 

[SportsWarrior]

Brook would've been banned for the same period even if he withdrew before the auction. Let's not pretend this is about the inconvenience to the franchise, it's about trying to force players to act in the best interests of the league rather than their own best interests.



If Brook hadn't withdrawn he would have had to have missed a significant amount of England games to manage his workload, he's missing it to try and reduce the amount of England games he misses.

Brook knew that before he entered the auction. Just don’t participate. No one was holding a gun against his head.

Just to reiterate he is a failure in IPL and a failure in t20Is in india. He looked clueless and hapless. No one will miss him. But he is a rising star. Having him and grooming him may help franchise later once he blooms. That was the reason franchises went after him

 

[SportsWarrior]

you live in a world separated from reality.

Okay please post an official document , communication etc showing either government of India or BCCI or IPL governing body banning Pakistani players.

Franchise just don’t want to deal with all the baggage that comes when dealing with Pakistani players.

 

[SportsWarrior]

It does not matter. If you turn down a job offer, you dont get banned from the job market for two years. He is well within his rights to make a decision in his self interest.

The IPL serves no purpose except maybe enriching the players and more so, the team owners. There is no deep historical rivalry, the bloody affair is only ten years old, there is no cultural significance to the teams, the team roster is not local talent representation. It is all just a big farce. And only the most desperate cricket fans watch this slop.

You also don’t get auctioned as a job seeker. You apply and get involved interviews and then get selected. He is fully within his reason to make that decision so as all the franchises and IPL governing body especially when they had made that clear before the auction took place. If he didn’t like it he can withdraw. Simple as that

Regarding IPL Purpose, it is for Indian market which clearly loves it based on how many people watch it and spend their hard earned money on it. So what a Pakistani or any other person thinks about it is absolutely irrelevant

 

[HitWicket]

Brook knew that before he entered the auction. Just don’t participate. No one was holding a gun against his head.

Just to reiterate he is a failure in IPL and a failure in t20Is in india. He looked clueless and hapless. No one will miss him. But he is a rising star. Having him and grooming him may help franchise later once he blooms. That was the reason franchises went after him

He didn't know he was England captain before he entered the auction. What he did know is that if he didn't enter he'd have got a 2 year ban anyway.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I don't see how the IPL is the only way for him to improve his game against spin. It is not the be all end all you are making it out to be. Besides most pitches in the IPL are very flat and batting friendly. A 5 match test series in India or a 2 match test series in Sri Lanka would be more helpful in improving his game against spin.

Like I said, not everybody's life revolves entirely around money. Some people actually play this sport to make a name for themself and achieve something for their country. Also maybe you're not aware of how much his England central contract is valued but it's exactly chump change.

Alot of Indians are clearly very upset about it, evident by their replies on this thread. Which is funny because he was pretty well-aware that he would be getting banned for 2 years and still went ahead with pulling out.

He is not playing five match or a two match test series before his t20 World Cup where he will be leading his team. Most pitches in all IPL and t20 games are flat where he was found out and was hapless in front of local spinners. So yeah he had an opportunity to fix it

If his life doesn’t revolve around money good for him. Then why even enter into auction to be sold like a cattle? If he was such an upstanding individual he can say I want nothing to with this and withdraw. Instead he thought he would be a million dollar player and once he found his level wanted to withdraw and got banned.

Mind you he is a very good player in flat pitches in test matches. Otherwise he has a long way to go before he can be top players. Dominating PSL or Pak flat pitches doesn’t mean much in the long term

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

He is not playing five match or a two match test series before his t20 World Cup where he will be leading his team. Most pitches in all IPL and t20 games are flat where he was found out and was hapless in front of local spinners. So yeah he had an opportunity to fix it

If his life doesn’t revolve around money good for him. Then why even enter into auction to be sold like a cattle? If he was such an upstanding individual he can say I want nothing to with this and withdraw. Instead he thought he would be a million dollar player and once he found his level wanted to withdraw and got banned.

Mind you he is a very good player in flat pitches in test matches. Otherwise he has a long way to go before he can be top players. Dominating PSL or Pak flat pitches doesn’t mean much in the long term

The only person who seems to care so deeply about him dominating in the PSL is you. Otherwise nobody else gives a hell about how he did in the PSL, the IPL or any other T20 league for that matter. T20 leagues are nothing more than lucrative opportunities for foreign players. So stop treating them like they actually matter or count for something. They only matter to the people of the country in which they are taking place.

Probably because he didn't have anything better to do and figured he might as well pick up the paycheck. Then he got the England white-ball captaincy and decided he had more important things to focus on. Why is that so hard for you fathom? Also LOL at your theory. Round of applause for coming up with that imaginative piece of fiction. If he was such an awful player then why did they throw so much cash at him two years in a row? Last I checked he had a pretty wretched season last time he played for SRH. Get over it. Move on. He doesn't care that you banned him.

 

[Savak]

Unfortunately Pakistan doesn’t have the superstars like whom you quoted. We all grew up watching them and honestly admired them even with so much political differences. Last major superstar who brought Indian crowd to watch Pakistani matches was probably Shoaib Akthar.

This doesn’t mean Pak won’t have them in the future. Pak has a great fundamentals and legacy to rely on. Once the economy turns around and Pak is able to find some stability things will look up. But for the long term peace and prosperity Pakistan has to find a solution with India. The way both countries are progressing Pakistan has lot to lose with the status quo

Can't blame the economy for our players lack of quality. The Pakistani players get paid pretty well and get paid even more than the players in the 80's and 90's, in fact one can argue the advent of T-20 leagues has diminished their hunger to develop the skills necessary for ODI and Test Cricket and has given them security that in the event they fail to make a career for Pakistan, they have the leagues to fall back on.

PCB needs to reign in the players

 

[SportsWarrior]

The only person who seems to care so deeply about him dominating in the PSL is you. Otherwise nobody else gives a hell about how he did in the PSL, the IPL or any other T20 league for that matter. T20 leagues are nothing more than lucrative opportunities for foreign players. So stop treating them like they actually matter or count for something. They only matter to the people of the country in which they are taking place.

Probably because he didn't have anything better to do and figured he might as well pick up the paycheck. Then he got the England white-ball captaincy and decided he had more important things to focus on. Why is that so hard for you fathom? Also LOL at your theory. Round of applause for coming up with that imaginative piece of fiction. If he was such an awful player then why did they throw so much cash at him two years in a row? Last I checked he had a pretty wretched season last time he played for SRH. Get over it. Move on. He doesn't care that you banned him.

lol. Clearly he cared enough to register for auction

 

[captain.hansolo]

The main issue isn't him refusing to play the league.

The main issue is him pulling out when rich investors spent buckloads of money investing in him.

Even if their super rich, that's still alot of money gone down the drain and it ruins their public image hence the ban

No they get the money back.

 

[Buzzinga]

It does not matter. If you turn down a job offer, you dont get banned from the job market for two years. He is well within his rights to make a decision in his self interest.

The IPL serves no purpose except maybe enriching the players and more so, the team owners. There is no deep historical rivalry, the bloody affair is only ten years old, there is no cultural significance to the teams, the team roster is not local talent representation. It is all just a big farce. And only the most desperate cricket fans watch this slop.

Yes you do in many reputed IT and Banking firms. I know the policies of these two industries because i have worked there, there could others also. You do get banned if you turn down the offer after a certain time frame.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Yes you do in many reputed IT and Banking firms. I know the policies of these two industries because i have worked there, there could others also. You do get banned if you turn down the offer after a certain time frame.

From that firm. Maybe they are skeptical of hiring you in the future. But it the entire banking sector. As for the IT sector in India, it is exploitative. My buddy wanted to switch jobs but is required to give four weeks notice whereas the job offer expires in 2. Absolute malarkey. I have walked off a job after giving a three day notice and I told them, I m taking two weeks off, but if they want anything, my billable rate is x. And anytime anyone has a noncompete, I just laugh them off.

I find it ridiculous how many of my fellow countrymen have been brain washed into peddling propaganda that only enriches the ultra rich robber barons. In most other instances these rich fat cats would be dragged to the streets and hung from their entrails.

 

[Sachin fan]

If Brook hadn't entered the auction this year then because he has previously played in the tournament he would have been banned until the next mega auction. I.e a 2 year ban, the same as he has received for withdrawing after the auction.

No he wouldn't, cite the rule which says not entering auction is a ban.

 

[Sachin fan]

From that firm. Maybe they are skeptical of hiring you in the future. But it the entire banking sector. As for the IT sector in India, it is exploitative. My buddy wanted to switch jobs but is required to give four weeks notice whereas the job offer expires in 2. Absolute malarkey. I have walked off a job after giving a three day notice and I told them, I m taking two weeks off, but if they want anything, my billable rate is x. And anytime anyone has a noncompete, I just laugh them off.

I find it ridiculous how many of my fellow countrymen have been brain washed into peddling propaganda that only enriches the ultra rich robber barons. In most other instances these rich fat cats would be dragged to the streets and hung from their entrails.

Well he has been banned from just this league, not other league or from all cricket, so no idea what your point is.

Rich businesses being greedy and exploitative has nothing to do with what Brook did or his bam.

 

[U$ofA]

Well like I said before, foreign players should only consider IPL or any other league as they enter the final stages of their careers..

A young player should aspire to play for their country and be putting the hard yards in to first class cricket..

This way everyone is a winner

In an ideal world, yes. In the real world?

It is actually heading the other way. More and more young players are coming into IPL. IPL seems to be big and important enough that pretty much all international cricket comes to a stand still. In fact there are cricket boards that have deals with their contracted players, where they are allowed to pick IPL over country.

So, not sure if first class cricket is/will be prioritized much or for long. Especially given that test are dying/dead. First class cricket is mainly to get yourself tooled to play tests. Sure it does lay a foundation that does come handy in the IPL.

 

[HitWicket]

No he wouldn't, cite the rule which says not entering auction is a ban.

The IPL has also agreed to the franchises' suggestion to make it mandatory for overseas players to register for mega auctions. An overseas player will not be allowed to register for a mini auction if he does not register for the preceding mega auction.

Effectively resulting in a 2 year ban if he didn't enter this year.

 

[Vikram1989]

In an ideal world, yes. In the real world?

It's not possible in real time. Just think of a scenario where a 16 year old young prodigy earning peanuts and 35 year old washed out uncle getting millions.if eligibility is 30 years , then youngster have to wait for atleast 14 years to earn some thing if he is from wi, lanka,afg where big deals aren't there.other leagues won't fetch u anything meaningful. Even wpl is much better than the rest in pay wise.

 

[Hikaru]

Once again pretending to be dumb. No one cares if he didn't play IPL or prioritizes country over leagues. It is because he willingly entered the auction, taking people's time and effort and then backing out.

IPL has lots of exception based on players physical and mental health and people pull out all the time and face no punishment. That's not what Brook did.

It doesn't matter if the franchise is playing well, a lot of effort and plans were wasted on Brook.

Some Asian people might be ok to be treated disrespectfully by Western people, but not all are. If you don't respect something or someone and are unprofessional, you get the same back. Not everyone has a slave mentality, not everyone entertains unprofessional super stars.

They seem to not know what professionalism means, no wonder PCB is run like a circus, it's the same mindset there too.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

lol. Clearly he cared enough to register for auction

At this point you are basically asking me to repeat stuff I have already said.

Probably because he didn't have anything better to do and figured he might as well pick up the paycheck. Then he got the England white-ball captaincy and decided he had more important things to focus on. Why is that so hard for you fathom?

 

[IMMY69]

In an ideal world, yes. In the real world?

It is actually heading the other way. More and more young players are coming into IPL. IPL seems to be big and important enough that pretty much all international cricket comes to a stand still. In fact there are cricket boards that have deals with their contracted players, where they are allowed to pick IPL over country.

So, not sure if first class cricket is/will be prioritized much or for long. Especially given that test are dying/dead. First class cricket is mainly to get yourself tooled to play tests. Sure it does lay a foundation that does come handy in the IPL.

Well this is precisely why I said ten years ago that these leagues will eventually kill the game as we know it.

Better foresight and planning was required, for example an age limit to when you can enter an auction, ex amount of first class cricket etc etc..
Small things like this could actually have enhanced the game overall... a young kid aspiring to earn big bucks would have to do the hard work first..

This could still happen but it maybe too late now

 

[U$ofA]

Well this is precisely why I said ten years ago that these leagues will eventually kill the game as we know it.

Better foresight and planning was required, for example an age limit to when you can enter an auction, ex amount of first class cricket etc etc..
Small things like this could actually have enhanced the game overall... a young kid aspiring to earn big bucks would have to do the hard work first..

This could still happen but it maybe too late now

Really tough ask to implement even ten years ago. Now impossible.

The foresight would have had come from the ICC. An organization totally devoid of any foresight. The IPL will always try to maximize their marketing efforts to maximize their earnings.

I am firm believer in free market. Let the market forces determine things. Because that is the gauge for what fans want.

 

[U$ofA]

It's not possible in real time. Just think of a scenario where a 16 year old young prodigy earning peanuts and 35 year old washed out uncle getting millions.if eligibility is 30 years , then youngster have to wait for atleast 14 years to earn some thing if he is from wi, lanka,afg where big deals aren't there.other leagues won't fetch u anything meaningful. Even wpl is much better than the rest in pay wise.

The IPL actually is gunning for the younger and prime players. The 35 year old past it players are an afterthought. It will only get harder to resist for the young players as the contracts keep getting bigger as IPL expands.

 

[Vikram1989]

The IPL actually is gunning for the younger and prime players. The 35 year old past it players are an afterthought. It will only get harder to resist for the young players as the contracts keep getting bigger as IPL expands.

if a league has to be take pride itself as best , then best players has to play during their best phase.win win for both.survival of the fittest for both categories.

 

[Sachin fan]

At this point you are basically asking me to repeat stuff I have already said.

And as I replied to.that point,

SOME south Asians might have zero self respect and slave mentality and they are ok with western guys treating them as "nothing better to do" but that doesn't mean every south Asian is the same and won't hit back.

 

[Sachin fan]

if a league has to be take pride itself as best , then best players has to play during their best phase.win win for both.survival of the fittest for both categories.

As the IPL grows and expands, they will have their own set of groomed youngsters and there will be a debate on who is the best of the best between them and international cricket.

It's kinda like how Barcelona groomed Messi or Yamal from when they were kids before they did well for their country.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

And as I replied to.that point,

SOME south Asians might have zero self respect and slave mentality and they are ok with western guys treating them as "nothing better to do" but that doesn't mean every south Asian is the same and won't hit back.

No need to project your deranged inferiority complex onto others just because a cricketer decided he didn't want to play in your tamasha T20 league this year.

Seems like SOME south Asians are be ok twisting personal insecurity into fake outrage just to feel relevant, but that doesn't mean every south Asian will do the same.

 

[Rajdeep]

I think there is some confusion around. Harry Brook prioritizing international cricket over IPL is not the issue. IPL is going on smoothly. However, him giving his name in auction and then pulling out in last minute is unethical. I mean when franchise buy a player, especially foreign player, lots of strategy goes behind it. So if that said player pulls out in last minute, that kind of put the team plan in jeapordy. So IPL is rightly punishing him for being unethical and not necessarily for prioritizing international cricket.

 

[HitWicket]

I think there is some confusion around. Harry Brook prioritizing international cricket over IPL is not the issue. IPL is going on smoothly. However, him giving his name in auction and then pulling out in last minute is unethical. I mean when franchise buy a player, especially foreign player, lots of strategy goes behind it. So if that said player pulls out in last minute, that kind of put the team plan in jeapordy. So IPL is rightly punishing him for being unethical and not necessarily for prioritizing international cricket.

Then don't make rules that incentivise players to enter the auction even if they're not sure if they'll participate.

 

[Rajdeep]

Then don't make rules that incentivise players to enter the auction even if they're not sure if they'll participate.

And how do you gauge which player is sensitive or emotional? LOL.

 

[HitWicket]

And how do you gauge which player is sensitive or emotional? LOL.

What's that got to do with what I said?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Good on Harry for prioritizing Team England . We've Got a bumper Summer in which hopefully England maul India, and then more importantly down under end of the Year with international Crickets epic Showdown. The Ashes. Confident, team England will Regain the Urn

 

[IMMY69]

Really tough ask to implement even ten years ago. Now impossible.

The foresight would have had come from the ICC. An organization totally devoid of any foresight. The IPL will always try to maximize their marketing efforts to maximize their earnings.

I am firm believer in free market. Let the market forces determine things. Because that is the gauge for what fans want.

I'm a firm believer in free market too....
But we're talking about a sport and its governance.
If the BCCI wants or wanted to maximise their profits then securing the longevity of the sport should have been the priority.

The product would be far better if players picked are established cricketers and high viewership would continue for decades when you select proven international cricketers with a high profile rather than young talented players who are nobody's.

 

[Buzzinga]

From that firm. Maybe they are skeptical of hiring you in the future. But it the entire banking sector. As for the IT sector in India, it is exploitative. My buddy wanted to switch jobs but is required to give four weeks notice whereas the job offer expires in 2. Absolute malarkey. I have walked off a job after giving a three day notice and I told them, I m taking two weeks off, but if they want anything, my billable rate is x. And anytime anyone has a noncompete, I just laugh them off.

I find it ridiculous how many of my fellow countrymen have been brain washed into peddling propaganda that only enriches the ultra rich robber barons. In most other instances these rich fat cats would be dragged to the streets and hung from their entrails.

Yeah i know its ridiculous. In banking we have to serve a notice of 3 months once confirmed but the same bank would want you to join within a month. HR policies in private sector in India is laughable.

 

[msb314]

I agree. That's the truth. India has the financial muscle power to blacklist and ignore the Pakistani players knowing full well they can't get the fast life changing sums of money from any where else. Even if a prime Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis were playing, the IPL franchise owners would still have ignored them because they have alternative world class players to choose from.

SSA, Amir, Fakhar etc make a lot of money from ILT20. Not as much as IPL but I bet it would be close..

Just wait until Saudi Arabia launch their T20 league. That will be a game changer and lessen the monopoly that IPL has..

 

[light]

Bcci should be more flexible and humane. Players can have family emergencies or personal mental health problems. They can't force a player to play at gunpoint

This! We don't even know why Brook backed out. Life is long and many things come up. If the reason was a geniune reason (family, health (including mental - which people don't seem to give enough importance to), etc), let it go. If backed out just because - well rules should kick in and ban should stay in place.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Yeah i know its ridiculous. In banking we have to serve a notice of 3 months once confirmed but the same bank would want you to join within a month. HR policies in private sector in India is laughable.

Time to change it. Not support that oppression or vote for a regime that won’t do anything to change employment law.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Well he has been banned from just this league, not other league or from all cricket, so no idea what your point is.

Rich businesses being greedy and exploitative has nothing to do with what Brook did or his bam.

I have no problem with him being banned from IPL. I have a problem with apologists like you arguing for the financial interest of those who don’t pay their fair share of taxes and won’t even offer you their spittoon if you were dying of thirst.

 

[Sachin fan]

I have no problem with him being banned from IPL. I have a problem with apologists like you arguing for the financial interest of those who don’t pay their fair share of taxes and won’t even offer you their spittoon if you were dying of thirst.

As I said, two different issues. You don't have to choose one or the other to condenm

 

[The Bald Eagle]

And he delivered in style
====
5th 150+ run innings for Harry Brook in Test

99 in the first test and going great in 2nd test; Brook is having a great time!

 

[Devadwal]

He has played proper tulla knock against South Africa both in 1st and 2nd ODI

HE is most Overhyped player in the World

 

[Devadwal]

Yet Another Series lose for England at home in ODI cricket and this time under brook captaincy.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He has played proper tulla knock against South Africa both in 1st and 2nd ODI

HE is most Overhyped player in the World

I do not rate him amongst the best talents anymore. His batting is dependent on flat pitches.

 

[hassan918]

Harry Brook offered some fight for England with a brisk 41 off 34 balls but England are in trouble at 77/7.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Insanely talented but not able to make it count in Australia.

Its been a disastrous tour so far.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He has played proper tulla knock against South Africa both in 1st and 2nd ODI

HE is most Overhyped player in the World

45*(25) against mighty Nepal

 

[Rajdeep]

Aur mat khelo IPL.

Brook should have played IPL just to improve his batting against spin more than anything.

Tried to act all racist and outwardly by pulling out from IPL at last minute and now getting humiliated in world stage.

#Karma
#RajNeverForgets
#NorForgive

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Aur mat khelo IPL.

Brook should have played IPL just to improve his batting against spin more than anything.

Tried to act all racist and outwardly by pulling out from IPL at last minute and now getting humiliated in world stage.

#Karma
#RajNeverForgets
#NorForgive

Raju, he’s unaware of your existence. Also that ‘karma’ that you’re referring to (which isn’t real) was because he needed some mental respite from being on the road so long, especially after a high pressure Ashes winter. It’s why he didn’t play the PSL either.

This may stun you, because you lot think that the universe revolves around India and everything related, but sometimes players just need to decompress.

Not everyone is motivated to dance for your INRs.

 

[Rajdeep]

Raju, he’s unaware of your existence. Also that ‘karma’ that you’re referring to (which isn’t real) was because he needed some mental respite from being on the road so long, especially after a high pressure Ashes winter. It’s why he didn’t play the PSL either.

This may stun you, because you lot think that the universe revolves around India and everything related, but sometimes players just need to decompress.

Not everyone is motivated to dance for your INRs.

Breakfast bro....I am British and England cricket fan. So it hurts that such a paindoo is our captain.

IPL is a world class tournament where best competes against the best. It would have helped him a lot as a player both technically and mentally. However, being the softy that he is, he choose to chicken out from that tournament in last minute. Watch England white ball teams performamce since.

We won the WT20 in 2022 and now struggling against Nepal/Scotland.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Breakfast bro....I am British and England cricket fan. So it hurts that such a paindoo is our captain.

IPL is a world class tournament where best competes against the best. It would have helped him a lot as a player both technically and mentally. However, being the softy that he is, he choose to chicken out from that tournament in last minute. Watch England white ball teams performamce since.

We won the WT20 in 2022 and now struggling against Nepal/Scotland.

 

[HitWicket]

Breakfast bro....I am British and England cricket fan. So it hurts that such a paindoo is our captain.

IPL is a world class tournament where best competes against the best. It would have helped him a lot as a player both technically and mentally. However, being the softy that he is, he choose to chicken out from that tournament in last minute. Watch England white ball teams performamce since.

We won the WT20 in 2022 and now struggling against Nepal/Scotland.

Harry Brook as England captain (i.e since he withdrew from the IPL):

ODI: Average 60.71, SR 118
T20I: Average 34.40, SR 169

Series played by England in that time: 10
Series won by England: 8

 

[G0rmintAunty]

Harry Brook as England captain (i.e since he withdrew from the IPL):

ODI: Average 60.71, SR 118
T20I: Average 34.40, SR 169

Series played by England in that time: 10
Series won by England: 8

Raju ban gaya Englishman probably not following his team's captain's progress recently.

 

[Rajdeep]

Aur mat khelo IPL. This guy is an atrocious cricketer.

Rajdeep will continue to bump this thread unless Brook is removed from our white ball captaincy.

 

[Rajdeep]

Hahaha....aur mat khelo IPL. Easily the worst decision taken by any active cricketer and result is for all to see. The bigger the humiliation for Brook...better it is.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

No effect of ipl ban. Played the best t20 knock of his life in wt20 today.

Hence proved, ipl is not the only place to hone your skills

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Hahaha....aur mat khelo IPL. Easily the worst decision taken by any active cricketer and result is for all to see. The bigger the humiliation for Brook...better it is.

Time to eat humble pie ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Hahaha....aur mat khelo IPL. Easily the worst decision taken by any active cricketer and result is for all to see. The bigger the humiliation for Brook...better it is.

 

[Major]

Hahaha....aur mat khelo IPL. Easily the worst decision taken by any active cricketer and result is for all to see. The bigger the humiliation for Brook...better it is.

Rajdeep kaab kaab zaleel nahi hua pp per?

 

[Rajdeep]

Time to eat humble pie ?

Rajdeep kaab kaab zaleel nahi hua pp per?

C'mmon he is bit of a Pakistan basher. Check his test match record against them as well.

Against better sides, he will struggle as evident from other games in this tournament. So he needed IPL to improve his game.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

STAT: First individual century by a captain in T20 World Cups.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Time to eat humble pie ?

Neither you nor Rajdeep are correct. I agree this was a good innings, but not a great one considering the Pakistani spinners are almost non-existent and players like Shadab and Nawaz are bowling Rubbish
It’s quite easy for Brook to play against Pakistan while chasing a moderate target. Basically, Pakistani bowlers are his bunny.

The only joker trying to dig into this matter is

 

[TheSultan]

As bad as pak were in this game - let’s appreciate Harry’s innings today. Sublime and flawless