Has Rohit Sharma unintentionally caused the downfall of another Indian bowler?

[Hawkeye]

Talking about Bumrah.

Started off decently like B. Kumar, Irfan Pathan and others.

Immediately put under severe pressure by Rohit, calling him a special talent and terming Amir as ordinary in front of him.

Is this going to take a toll on the young upcoming Indian seamer? Will the expectations and the 'special' tag cause him to come under pressure, and just slowly fade away now?

Can he handle it?

 

[rhony]

If he can't handle a compliment, how will he be able to handle criticism? Its the survival of the fittest and being mentally strong is 70% of required criteria in international cricket. If he can't cope with it, he will perish like hundreds before him. So be it

 

[Hawkeye]

If he can't handle a compliment, how will he be able to handle criticism? Its the survival of the fittest and being mentally strong is 70% of required criteria in international cricket. If he can't cope with it, he will perish like hundreds before him. So be it

Very interested in how he takes it.

Could go either way. The anxiety of WT20 and the added pressure of Rohit's comments, we're gonna find out soon.

 

[Syed1]

India always produces Bumrah sort of bowlers who are good for a season or two and then fade away. Only one who has survived the test of time, is the legend himself, Ishant Sharma

 

[street cricketer]

He never compared him with Amir in the first place. Was more of a statement asking the Indian reporters to praise their own bowler a bit too for his good performance of late.

But for some reason, a few Pakistani ppers have taken offence to that statement and have started attacking poor ol' Bumrah

 

[Vayuu]

Talking about Bumrah.

Started off decently like B. Kumar, Irfan Pathan and others.

Immediately put under severe pressure by Rohit, calling him a special talent and terming Amir as ordinary in front of him.

Is this going to take a toll on the young upcoming Indian seamer? Will the expectations and the 'special' tag cause him to come under pressure, and just slowly fade away now?

Can he handle it?

So you are judging this from one of the warm up, what if amir and Co are smashed in this tournament, I wonder what will happen then.

 

[Kaptan]

Don't judge him from yesterday's warm up match. That pitch was so flat that all bowlers (including amir ) will get thrashed.

 

[Hawkeye]

He never compared him with Amir in the first place. Was more of a statement asking the Indian reporters to praise their own bowler a bit too for his good performance of late.

But for some reason, a few Pakistani ppers have taken offence to that statement and have started attacking poor ol' Bumrah

I think I understand he was annoyed at the praise Amir was getting but Bumrah was totally ignored even by the Indian media.

There was probably no direct comparison but terming Bumrah 'special' in the same sentence is bound to get some discussions going.

 

[Hawkeye]

So you are judging this from one of the warm up, what if amir and Co are smashed in this tournament, I wonder what will happen then.

Don't judge him from yesterday's warm up match. That pitch was so flat that all bowlers (including amir ) will get thrashed.

Not one warm up game, like I said, let's see what happens in the tournament. I didn't even know he has already done bad in the warm up game.

Bumrah speciality is LOIs, he should do well here UNLESS the pressure of being 'special' gets to him.

Amir is a Test class bowler like Steyn, so even if he gets spanked in this tournie, I won't be bothered much.

 

[JattMaula]

I don't think bumrah even knows that Rohit called him special in public. If bumrah fades away then it will not be fault of his senior teammate.

Rohit is also captain of MI which won the IPL and Bumrah was major contributor to it. It is quite natural for seniors of the team to praise the newbies to give them confidence.

 

[rhony]

Don't judge him from yesterday's warm up match. That pitch was so flat that all bowlers (including amir ) will get thrashed.

Rohit probably didn't but you are comparing Bumrah to Amir here

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't think bumrah even knows that Rohit called him special in public. If bumrah fades away then it will not be fault of his senior teammate.

Rohit is also captain of MI which won the IPL and Bumrah was major contributor to it. It is quite natural for seniors of the team to praise the newbies to give them confidence.

Come on now.

And problem is not just praising, it's the way Rohit pulled this all off; it came across as a comparison to Amir. In the same sentence Amir was termed ordinary and Bumrah special.

Pressure will definitely be on him I think.

 

[JattMaula]

Come on now.

And problem is not just praising, it's the way Rohit pulled this all off; it came across as a comparison to Amir. In the same sentence Amir was termed ordinary and Bumrah special.

Pressure will definitely be on him I think.

Yes pressure will definitely be there on Young Bumrah. Hope he learns to handle it like Amir did.

 

[norman bates]

bumra is nothing more than your ordinary gully merchant

 

[Balthazar]

So what if Rohit compared Bumrah to Amir? The way Amir was getting man-handled in NZ makes you think if his fans are the real culprits here, making Amir to think he's better than what he actually is.

 

[Sandeep]

Do we care? Nope. All we care about is batsmen

 

[Hawkeye]

So what if Rohit compared Bumrah to Amir? The way Amir was getting man-handled in NZ makes you think if his fans are the real culprits here, making Amir to think he's better than what he actually is.

Lol you need to watch his spells again, specially in ODIs.

And then watch Martin Guptill go all gaga over him. Showered a lot of praise.

 

[Hawkeye]

Do we care? Nope. All we care about is batsmen

Nice dodge there.

 

[hur rizvi]

BAsed on what a warm up?

 

[Balthazar]

Lol you need to watch his spells again, specially in ODIs.

And then watch Martin Guptill go all gaga over him. Showered a lot of praise.

lol How many matches did Amir win for your team? After Bumrah's addition to the team, we have only had 1 loss, because that's how good he has been bowling in the death overs for India. He's a better LOI bowler than Amir.

 

[Madplayer]

Sometimes i wonder whether posters actually think before writing anything.

 

[pakistani pride]

lol How many matches did Amir win for your team? After Bumrah's addition to the team, we have only had 1 loss, because that's how good he has been bowling in the death overs for India. He's a better LOI bowler than Amir.

And how many runs did your batsmen score the games won vs our so called batting line up?

I would like to see what this bumrah does when he has 80 odd runs to defend.

You win due to your batting. Be real dude.

 

[rhony]

And how many runs did your batsmen score the games won vs our so called batting line up?

I would like to see what this bumrah does when he has 80 odd runs to defend.

You win due to your batting. Be real dude.

Bumrah was one of the reasons why you scored 80. Damn..you now dragged me into this meaningless, rubbish, outrageous Amir vs Bumrah debate

 

[Adijazz1706]

Bumrah was one of the reasons why you scored 80.<b> Damn..you now dragged me into this meaningless, rubbish, outrageous Amir vs Bumrah debate</b>

Well, that escalated quickly :

 

[Finisher]

Bumrah was one of the reasons why you scored 80. Damn..you now dragged me into this meaningless, rubbish, outrageous Amir vs Bumrah debate

Let him win India some tests 1st.

Batsmen win you one Sayers and bowlers win you tests.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Bumrah isn't a long term solution for India , they will have to find better bowlers. He is just a stop gap type.

 

[princeuk]

Rohits comments are the opposite of the Midas touch for Indian bowlers when he opens his mouth

 

[Sandeep]

Let him win India some tests 1st.

Batsmen win you one Sayers and bowlers win you tests.

Even though I agree with you, even Amir hasn't done anything of note in tests..

Err, he did at Lords 5 years back, but that's not what we're talking about

 

[Adijazz1706]

Bhai warmup ko seriously na lo, match mai aisa huwa toh ye kehna theek hoga.

 

[carrom_ball]

Bumrrah is going to be a star, haters gonna hate, 2 years from now we'll see who's laughing

 

[rhony]

He is a Malinga type bowler and actually aspires to be like him. Why the heck does he have to play in tests to prove? When someone calls Malinga an ATG, do you look at his test record?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

He is a Malinga type bowler and actually aspires to be like him. Why the heck does he have to play in tests to prove? When someone calls Malinga an ATG, do you look at his test record?

No one with half a brain will say Malinga is an ATG

 

[Bilal7]

I don't think bumrah even knows that Rohit called him special in public. If bumrah fades away then it will not be fault of his senior teammate.

Rohit is also captain of MI which won the IPL and Bumrah was major contributor to it. It is quite natural for seniors of the team to praise the newbies to give them confidence.

Does Bumrah hibernate between matches? Of course he knows what Sharma has said. His downfall won't be Rohit's comments but will simply be down to him not being good enough.

 

[Hawkeye]

Bhai warmup ko seriously na lo, match mai aisa huwa toh ye kehna theek hoga.

Isi liye to ye thread banai hai, agay agay dekho kia hota hai Bumrah k saath.

Bumrrah is going to be a star, haters gonna hate, 2 years from now we'll see who's laughing

I hope he doesn't turn out to be like the previous '2 year old' Indian bowling stars.

 

[Bilal7]

Bumrrah is going to be a star, haters gonna hate, 2 years from now we'll see who's laughing

Like all the other Patels and Kumars and the one, fake Pathan?

 

[JattMaula]

Does Bumrah hibernate between matches? Of course he knows what Sharma has said. His downfall won't be Rohit's comments but will simply be down to him not being good enough.

Why so harsh on Bumrah?

 

[aukhan]

Over hyped. He will get exposed the more he plays.

 

[Bilal7]

Why so harsh on Bumrah?

I don't think he is that good. Shami however, has lots of potential.

 

[JattMaula]

I don't think he is that good. Shami however, has lots of potential.

Shami undoubtedly has most potential among Indian bowlers.

May Bumrah work hard and smart and prove you wrong.

 

[carrom_ball]

Isi liye to ye thread banai hai, agay agay dekho kia hota hai Bumrah k saath.




I hope he doesn't turn out to be like the previous '2 year old' Indian bowling stars.

Like all the other Patels and Kumars and the one, fake Pathan?

Kumar is still going strong and can still wreck any batting line up on the green tops even today, with his pace he can only succeed in certain conditions, no one hyped him as the next atg, at least no one in India, patels and kumars weren't hyped bowlers, bumrahh ( who is also not hyped by anyone in India) on the other hand is a great student of the game and knows his limitations, he himself contacted malinga for advice and learned new tricks from him, he has a great temperament as cricketer, he will be a great limited overs bowler similar to malinga, because he is an intelligent bowler with a good yorker and a good bouncer, plus he never gets bogged down under pressure, those underrating him are just poor readers of the game, Indians never overhype their bowlers, the only hyped bowler in the last 15-20 years of Indian history was pathan, so bringing kumars and patels into the discuss is pointless

 

[Prince_]

Poor Rohit. What have u done?

 

[Pak Warrior]

Haha Boom-rah, let's see what happens in the next 2 years as some defending him have advised us to do. Will be looking forward to his progress/decline, whatever comes first.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Kumar is still going strong and can still wreck any batting line up on the green tops even today, with his pace he can only succeed in certain conditions, no one hyped him as the next atg, at least no one in India, patels and kumars weren't hyped bowlers, bumrahh ( who is also not hyped by anyone in India) on the other hand is a great student of the game and knows his limitations, he himself contacted malinga for advice and learned new tricks from him, he has a great temperament as cricketer, he will be a great limited overs bowler similar to malinga, because he is an intelligent bowler with a good yorker and a good bouncer, plus he never gets bogged down under pressure, those underrating him are just poor readers of the game, Indians never overhype their bowlers, the only hyped bowler in the last 15-20 years of Indian history was pathan, so bringing kumars and patels into the discuss is pointless

No walls of text please. Bumrah won't be another Malinga imo.

 

[Hawkeye]

Kumar is still going strong and can still wreck any batting line up on the green tops even today, with his pace he can only succeed in certain conditions, no one hyped him as the next atg, at least no one in India, patels and kumars weren't hyped bowlers, bumrahh ( who is also not hyped by anyone in India) on the other hand is a great student of the game and knows his limitations, he himself contacted malinga for advice and learned new tricks from him, he has a great temperament as cricketer, he will be a great limited overs bowler similar to malinga, because he is an intelligent bowler with a good yorker and a good bouncer, plus he never gets bogged down under pressure, those underrating him are just poor readers of the game, Indians never overhype their bowlers, the only hyped bowler in the last 15-20 years of Indian history was pathan, so bringing kumars and patels into the discuss is pointless

I like your optimism, and very much interested in seeing where he belongs in the next 2 years (if he's able to survive that long).

Let's wait for WT20 first; Rohit has put him in a difficult situation and he got a point to prove now.

 

[nailbiter]

It will not be easy for rohit to face amir now. He put himself under pressure

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[carrom_ball]

Bumrrah bowling well

 

[giri26]

It will not be easy for rohit to face amir now. He put himself under pressure

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Rohit does not take any pressure and is just too lazy with the bat. If he probably took more pressure, he would be more consistent.

 

[nailbiter]

Rohit does not take any pressure and is just too lazy with the bat. If he probably took more pressure, he would be more consistent.

I wont agree that taking pressure or being under pressure makes someone consistent especially in sports. But you maybe right

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[Hawkeye]

As expected, bottling it against Pakistan.

 

[Hawkeye]

[MENTION=139973]carrom_ball[/MENTION]

Novelty wearing off.

 

[Hamza_]

Lol This guy is nothing special. Was a matter of tim till he gets found out like Sohail Tanvir

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Lol.This guy didn't deserve to get so hyped.Can improve a lot though.

 

[#GreenRoars]

[MENTION=139973]carrom_ball[/MENTION]

Novelty wearing off.

You will see him if India wins Otherwise a big NOOO.

 

[Adil_94]

he's won the game for India.

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[sensible-indian-fan]

Needs to work on his bowling his overs upfront.

But a SUPREME death bowler.

Never felt so confident about an Indian death bowler like him.

 

[carrom_ball]

[MENTION=139973]carrom_ball[/MENTION]

Novelty wearing off.

Yeah Hawkeye, talk nah, excellent comeback by class bowler

 

[carrom_ball]

You will see him if India wins Otherwise a big NOOO.

Haha Roary, wassup

 

[in_cutter]

Bowled beautifully at the death. The real deal.

 

[joly]

Won the match for India at the death yet again

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=139973]carrom_ball[/MENTION]

Novelty wearing off.

Ability to ball 12 yorkers in 12 balls never wears off.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol.This guy didn't deserve to get so hyped.Can improve a lot though.

Unfortunately there is no bowler in Pakistan ATM who can bowl yorkers at will like this.

 

[Hawkeye]

Ability to ball 12 yorkers in 12 balls never wears off.

He was excellent at the death.

But your statement is wrong - he was bowling Junaid-esque yorkers at the death (& Gul's), and they're nowhere to be seen now.

If he can stay fit, avoid injuries, might continue to bowl yorkers and be decent in T20s.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He was excellent at the death.

But your statement is wrong - he was bowling Junaid-esque yorkers at the death (& Gul's), and they're nowhere to be seen now.

If he can stay fit, avoid injuries, might continue to bowl yorkers and be decent in T20s.

What?

 

[Zak_Fan]

Downfall of Bumrah?

You can offer Wahab + Irfan + Junaid for him, and we will respectfully decline.

 

[Madplayer]

Indian fans, like it or not, bumrah bottled it today under pressure. Please dont try to hide it now. He simply bottled it.

Has to be seen whether its just a one off or he is a regular bottler.

 

[carrom_ball]

Indian fans, like it or not, bumrah bottled it today under pressure. Please dont try to hide it now. He simply bottled it.

Has to be seen whether its just a one off or he is a regular bottler.

Bottled lol, did you miss his last 2 overs?

 

[joly]

single handedly won us the match on a pitch that was getting better and better,unreal stuff,i have never seen 12 yorkers in an INT match one after another

 

[Madplayer]

Bottled lol, did you miss his last 2 overs?

No i didnt. Just feel that bangladesh played him poorly later on and he also did get his radar back in his final few deliveries. But earlier on after he dropped the catch, he was visibly nervous and bowled rank full tosses in the next over. dhoni came up to the stumps for this "pacer" because he knew he is losing his head. It reminded me of the panic mode of gul in mohali.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No i didnt. Just feel that bangladesh played him poorly later on and he also did get his radar back in his final few deliveries. But earlier on after he dropped the catch, he was visibly nervous and bowled rank full tosses in the next over. dhoni came up to the stumps for this "pacer" because he knew he is losing his head. It reminded me of the panic mode of gul in mohali.

Bowled 12 yorkers in a row in over 17 and 19.

But then again,there is hatred.

 

[Madplayer]

Bowled 12 yorkers in a row in over 17 and 19.

But then again,there is hatred.

And he didnt bottle it in his first spell??

But then again, there are nice tricoloured shades.

 

[JaDed]

He did bottle it early on but credit all to him for coming back and making a game of it that is also a sign of mental stability and such matches will only give him more confidence.

 

[Zak_Fan]

No i didnt. Just feel that bangladesh played him poorly later on and he also did get his radar back in his final few deliveries. But earlier on after he dropped the catch, he was visibly nervous and bowled rank full tosses in the next over. dhoni came up to the stumps for this "pacer" because he knew he is losing his head. It reminded me of the panic mode of gul in mohali.

Panic mode, and then he came back and won India the match. More than enough for a 22 year old, infact it only highlights his character.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And he didnt bottle it in his first spell??

But then again, there are nice tricoloured shades.

1 over was bad thats all.His bowling brought India back in the match.12 balls 12 runs,12 yorkers at the death.

 

[anakin]

And he didnt bottle it in his first spell??

But then again, there are nice tricoloured shades.

Eggxactly just like the "Ordinary bowler" was exposed against the kiwis!!

 

[carrom_ball]

No i didnt. Just feel that bangladesh played him poorly later on and he also did get his radar back in his final few deliveries. But earlier on after he dropped the catch, he was visibly nervous and bowled rank full tosses in the next over. dhoni came up to the stumps for this "pacer" because he knew he is losing his head. It reminded me of the panic mode of gul in mohali.

Did Amir bottle it in the last over of the match yesterday?

 

[Kaptan]

He bowled really well I must say, out of 4 overs 3 were economical 1 over went for 16, I guess.
That too I think Dhoni did a mistake to give him last over of the powerplay because he 1. just dropped a dollie and he must be really upset 2. It was powerplay and the fielders were in the circle (He is a death bowler).

His fielding was totally a different issue it was not his day.

 

[street cricketer]

It's incredible how short sighted some ppers are that you really have to question people's cricketing intelligence. But then again, I suspect his nationality might have a major part to do with in this particular matter.

Bumrah is neither world class nor a crap bowler. He's a good bowler who can improve very much. He's just 22 and he let the pressure get to him in the first spell, but credit to him, he made an excellent comeback in the end, which I personally didn't believe he would. But even if he had bowled poorly in the end, it wouldn't have changed the fact that he's a good bowler. Of course bowlers will have off days in T20 cricket. But only in pp you'll see a youngster hyped up to be an ATG "talent" after a good performance in a single match and termed "crap" after a failure in the next match. As I've said before, there's no middle ground here and passion rules over objectivity.

 

[Cric_fan_4_eva]

It's incredible how short sighted some ppers are that you really have to question people's cricketing intelligence. But then again, I suspect his nationality might have a major part to do with in this particular matter.

Bumrah is neither world class nor a crap bowler. He's a good bowler who can improve very much. He's just 22 and he let the pressure get to him in the first spell, but credit to him, he made an excellent comeback in the end, which I personally didn't believe he would. But even if he had bowled poorly in the end, it wouldn't have changed the fact that he's a good bowler. Of course bowlers will have off days in T20 cricket. But only in pp you'll see a youngster hyped up to be an ATG "talent" after a good performance in a single match and termed "crap" after a failure in the next match. As I've said before, there's no middle ground here and passion rules over objectivity.

True


Him and pandya (minus death bowling) have the right skills.

And with experience they will only improve

 

[street cricketer]

True


Him and pandya (minus death bowling) have the right skills.

And with experience they will only improve

Pandya is a predictable bowler. He'll get smashed unless he develops a few variations.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He can't perform in every match. Still he contributed somehow in the end. I like his bowling. He was the reason we won against aus in aus in t20's and last odi.