Hasan Ali 5/52 off 10 overs, rest of Pakistani bowlers 1/293 off 40 overs

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hasan Ali 10-1-52-5<br>Rest of Pakistan bowlers 40-0-293-1<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash">#AUSvPAK</a></p>— PakPassion.net (@PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPassion/status/823066239958417408">January 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hasan's maiden five-wicket haul, super performances (with the ball) on what looks like a very flat pitch.

 

[badsha001]

Please also add hassan ali dropped two catches which cost pakistan 100 runs...

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Have always said he is a brilliant bowler especially in LOIs. Where are those people who used to cry about his height or lack of pace. (Was bowling in the 140s today.) Excellent performance today and he has a bright future for Pakistan. Disappointed by his fielding though

 

[Rayyman]

Great bowling. His fielding was one of the worst performances I have ever seen though. Amir was bad. Junaid was mediocre. Spinners were... on a spinning pitch.

 

[Jabo]

Who cares

He cant field or bat
He's a loose bowler
He'll never have any consistency
Dump him and make him work hard

 

[Mamoon]

Unfortunately his name is not Mohammad Amir so we cannot hype him. Must be too short to succeed in at this level and will be exposed soon.

On a serious note, he has achieved already what Amir and Junaid haven't in years - take a 5-fer in ODIs.

 

[Abdullah]

Alhumdullilah. was impressed with him when i first saw him. guy has got a brain!
so we found one proper odi batter and one proper odi bowler in year. good progress.

 

[Rayyman]

Unfortunately his name is not Mohammad Amir so we cannot hype him. Must be too short to succeed in at this level and will be exposed soon.

On a serious note, he has achieved already what Amir and Junaid haven't in years - take a 5-fer in ODIs.

I am not sure about Amir because he has only played 20-odd games, but JK has played over 50. I am pretty sure he has a 5-fer.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

I mentioned before this series about Junaid's poor form in the departmental one-day cup but nobody bothered to reply or care enough. They were happy with his BPL performance.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Great performance from him! Hopefully the first of many.

Congrats to him.

 

[Brilliance]

I feel for this guy and Pakistan. It could have been slightly better for him and Pakistan had he bowled the two overs early when Head and Maxwell were new at the crease and were struggling to play him particularly Maxwell. Bad captaincy hasn't helped him.

Still Kudos to him. Well done!

 

[Syed1]

His figures would have alot better, but kaptaan fantastic saved his 3 overs for the absolute end even though he was picking wickets left, right and center.. Mashallah

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Unfortunately his name is not Mohammad Amir so we cannot hype him. Must be too short to succeed in at this level and will be exposed soon.

On a serious note, he has achieved already what Amir and Junaid haven't in years - take a 5-fer in ODIs.

His height is an issue, but he makes up for it with a brain that bowlers like Rahat, Wahab, Irfan etc lack.

 

[Mamoon]

I am not sure about Amir because he has only played 20-odd games, but JK has played over 50. I am pretty sure he has a 5-fer.

He doesn't, and neither of them will take one.

 

[itsme]

I mentioned before this series about Junaid's poor form in the departmental one-day cup but nobody bothered to reply or care enough. They were happy with his BPL performance.

He didn't bowl badly,it's fielding who let us down today aus will have struggle to come close to 300 if maxwell and head weren't drop without even considering the inital drops/misfields

 

[Madplayer]

I think his last over costed around 13-14 runs mainly due to malik's misfield. Maxwell hit him for 3 boundaries when he shouldn't even have been on strike.

Hos fielding was very ordinary today though but so was everyone else's.

 

[Pakprideuk]

He doesn't, and neither of them will take one.

I agree. Amir doesn't have the ability to bowl with an old ball and Junaid can't with the new ball, consistently.

 

[Rayyman]

I have been backing Amir to be Pak's next world-class bowler. Now I think Hassan has a better shot. At least in LOIs.

 

[Syed1]

I mentioned before this series about Junaid's poor form in the departmental one-day cup but nobody bothered to reply or care enough. They were happy with his BPL performance.

Junaid has been good in his two prior matches, however he was bad today, but he did have TWO catches dropped off his bowling by Sharjeel

 

[waleed88]

I am not sure about Amir because he has only played 20-odd games, but JK has played over 50. I am pretty sure he has a 5-fer.

He has 4'fers.. all the credit to Hassan Ali, phenomenal bowling, especially when others went for so many

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Junaid has been good in his two prior matches, however he was bad today, but he did have TWO catches dropped off his bowling by Sharjeel

Bro that happens with every pakistani bowler one day or the next

 

[Buffet]

If you drop so many catches and keep giving 1s and 2s despite ball going directly to fielders then no bowling is going to be good enough. Pakistan was very poor in field today. Even Pakistan is not this bad and I think fielding was decent in earlier matches. Very poor fielding today and it will take the air out of bowlers.

 

[Bewal Express]

I have been one of his critics and although haven't seen today's bowling, if he has improved then that is a real positive because what I saw in England, I didn't think he would last long.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

always does well when others getting smacked.. he was the pick of the bowlers when poms scored 444

 

[Hawkeye]

Unfortunately his name is not Mohammad Amir so we cannot hype him. Must be too short to succeed in at this level and will be exposed soon.

On a serious note, he has achieved already what Amir and Junaid haven't in years - take a 5-fer in ODIs.

Don't know anyone who doesn't rate Hassan

 

[The_KING]

By taking a 5fer he has already achieved more than Amir. Unfortunately he will never get the hype of the golden boy.

 

[New Yorker]

Unfortunately his name is not Mohammad Amir so we cannot hype him. Must be too short to succeed in at this level and will be exposed soon.

On a serious note, he has achieved already what Amir and Junaid haven't in years - take a 5-fer in ODIs.

Should be dropped post haste like the other guy who pulled that off, Sohail Khan.

 

[zyrus]

This is what happens when you select players ON MERIT!

 

[todfod 11]

Good bowling but need to develop inswingers like bhuvi kumar.. will b deadly.. and please make him work on his fielding.

 

[Hasan123]

Good talent, impressed me since I saw him in the PSL. Disappointed about his fielding though must improve.

 

[Xoib]

Why is amir getting bashed here he has been pick of the bowlers for first three games had his first bad game on a patta where even Starc has travelled

 

[Muhammad Saad]

How did he got those wickets? genuine good balls or change of pace lucky wickets?

 

[spade]

Good bowler and most importantly, a smart guy knows what he's doing, but according to pakistani logic he is not tall enough and doesn't have the pace of wahab riaz, so i believe he should be discarded after a couple of poor performances and call the magnificent Wahab.

 

[shaz619]

He has been a revelation for us, fantastic all round bowler with a versatile skillset which makes him well equipped for the modern game. Can move the new and old cherry, vary his pace, line and length beautifully as well. Am happy for him in the limited overs teams at the moment but soon we'll need to blood him into the Test squad.

 

[Cricket World]

He is an intelligent bowler remains calm under pressure and uses variations very well.

 

[Hawkeye]

How did he got those wickets? genuine good balls or change of pace lucky wickets?

Change of pace lucky wickets?

I don't know how he got the wickets, but I know he uses lotsa variations and deceive batsmen. They're not lucky wickets.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

By lucky i meant to say non charming wickets

 

[Ellipsism]

Should be dropped post haste like the other guy who pulled that off, Sohail Khan.

His 130-132 KPH pies will not serve Pakistan any good.

 

[Abdullah719]

7-0-80-0 today so far. From one extreme to another. Poor guy.

 

[Ellipsism]

This phainty will do him good.

 

[vandokkum]

Don't overhype players after one or two good performances.. and don't rubbish them after few failures.

 

[Pollack]

When senior players get a phainty why blame newcomer.He has shown some spark in his bowling.This is the problem with Pakistan. They have knee jerk reaction to everything.

 

[Ahson8]

Don't overhype players after one or two good performances.. and don't rubbish them after few failures.

He has generally bowled well. This is the first time he's been this expensive in an ODI

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Very good bowler. Just had a bad day

 

[Buffet]

Only 10 times a bowler gave 100 or more runs in ODI. 2 were from non-minnows.

 

[Buffet]

Don't overhype players after one or two good performances.. and don't rubbish them after few failures.

When you ask for a larger sample size to judge claims of greatness then some posters start with cricket is not played on spreadsheet and all that, lol. Many here don't want to talk about actual performance, but talent, potential etc... If nothing works then start quoting some random match for greatness.

On topic, Hasan actually bowled well in previous matches, but bowled poorly here.

 

[Madplayer]

Only 10 times a bowler gave 100 or more runs in ODI. 2 were from non-minnows.

one from aussie and 2 from Pakistan. are you saying Pakistan are minnows?

i would agree

 

[Buffet]

one from aussie and 2 from Pakistan. are you saying Pakistan are minnows?

i would agree

Nope, Pakistan is certainly not minnow in bowling in ODI, but not a good bowling unit as well. In batting you can probably call Pakistan a minnow.

100+ 2 times by Pakistan, NZ and Indian bowlers. One each by Aus, Afg, WI and Zim bowlers.

 

[Hamza_]

Bowled poorly didn't he. Should develop new ball skills

 

[Abdullah719]

Bowled poorly didn't he. Should develop new ball skills

How do you know about his new-ball skills when he's barely gotten a chance with the new ball?

 

[waleed88]

Second fast bowling centurion from Pakistan.. we are still producing record breaknig fast bowlers..

It was only a matter of time, before they worked on him, and his slower ones became predictable..

 

[waleed88]

His two dropped catches in the previous game along with a 5'fer, and now a century up in this game..

This guy really knows how to blow hot and cold.

When he was being taken apart by the WI in the t20s.. I could sense something is up with this guy.. he is another Wahab Riaz in the making if he carries on like this..

His stats have given the first indication

 

[Hamza_]

How do you know about his new-ball skills when he's barely gotten a chance with the new ball?

Might be Management is not convinced with him.

 

[Abdullah719]

Second fast bowling centurion from Pakistan.. we are still producing record breaknig fast bowlers..

It was only a matter of time, before they worked on him, and his slower ones became predictable..

He barely bowled any slower ones today.

 

[waleed88]

He barely bowled any slower ones today.

I heard he has like 4-5 slower ones of different kinds..

 

[Abdullah719]

I heard he has like 4-5 slower ones of different kinds..

Yes but I don't think he tried too many today.

This is his first really bad performance. He has a knack of picking up wickets which will ensure he stays in the team and rightfully gets a long run.

 

[Vayuu]

I heard he has like 4-5 slower ones of different kinds..

Yup, the off cutter goes over the deep midwicket boundary, leg cutter goes over the extra cover for six, the cross seam slower ball goes over straight boundary .

 

[waleed88]

Yes but I don't think he tried too many today.

This is his first really bad performance. He has a knack of picking up wickets which will ensure he stays in the team and rightfully gets a long run.

He was pretty poor against the WI in the t20s.. he's inconsistent

 

[Abdullah719]

He was pretty poor against the WI in the t20s.. he's inconsistent

I don't want to get into another discussion but you have very high standards for youngsters and new players, while normally they are given a longer rope by all major cricketing nations as they are the future. Let's leave it at that.

 

[arehaan]

I think young bowlers need dynamic leaders to flourish and this is a big miss from our setup at the moment.

 

[waleed88]

I don't want to get into another discussion but you have very high standards for youngsters and new players, while normally they are given a longer rope by all major cricketing nations as they are the future. Let's leave it at that.

Keep giving 'exceptional youngsters' the longer rope, and we will continue producing Umar Akmal's and Mohammad Sami's in the long run

 

[waleed88]

I think young bowlers need dynamic leaders to flourish and this is a big miss from our setup at the moment.

There's nothing dynamic about dropping catches.. if you're dropping two of them in one innings then there's a problem

 

[Abdullah719]

Keep giving 'exceptional youngsters' the longer rope, and we will continue producing Umar Akmal's and Mohammad Sami's in the long run

Umar Akmal did very well until a certain point but has fallen away because of his lack of intelligence and temperament. Just because one or two investments aren't paying off at the moment does not mean that you do not try to persist with others just because they can't perform in every game.

 

[arehaan]

There's nothing dynamic about dropping catches.. if you're dropping two of them in one innings then there's a problem

Again it comes down to leading by example. When your captain himself drops a catch on the 1st ball of the match and the guy ends up scoring 170 odd what do you expect? ( I understand it was not easy chance but you have to take tough chances to succeed)

Fitness has to be team driven and lead by the captain unfortunately this team under Azhar Ali is more like lambs than tigers. The entire mentality is wrong

 

[waleed88]

Again it comes down to leading by example. When your captain himself drops a catch on the 1st ball of the match and the guy ends up scoring 170 odd what do you expect? ( I understand it was not easy chance but you have to take tough chances to succeed)

Fitness has to be team driven and lead by the captain unfortunately this team under Azhar Ali is more like lambs than tigers. The entire mentality is wrong

That was a difficult chance, probably he did well to get even a hand to that.. saved 4 runs...

Azhar is one of the fittest cricketers around in the Pk camp