Hasan Ali - No.1 to No.26 in ICC Bowlers' Rankings

[Ronaldo7]

Hasan Ali was our top bowler in the CT17. He was no.1 for a decent amount of time. Even around 6 months ago he was at no.11 in the bowling rankings. Now he's no.26.
Going from no.1 to no.26 in just two years is just unprecedented.

What may be the reason(s)?

 

[hitthestump]

He's been used wrongly. The guy should be opening the bowling. Pakistan have been poor at taking wickets in the first powerplay lately yet they've persisted with Hasan at 2nd or 3rd change generally against set batsmen.

 

[Ronaldo7]

He's been used wrongly. The guy should be opening the bowling. Pakistan have been poor at taking wickets in the first powerplay lately yet they've persisted with Hasan at 2nd or 3rd change generally against set batsmen.

He opened the bowling twice against eng but failed both times.

 

[shariqnoor]

Pakistan players have novelty factor which is why they do well initially but then fade away because teams work them out and these players don't have the skill or the desire to continuously keep themselves ahead of the curve.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

He lost his wicket taking weapon, the ball which used to be zipped in and kept little low, he also lost his pace up to 5kph. Courtesy to bowling coach who made hassan similar to himself.

 

[Abdul]

This is what happens when you let fame get to your head, well deserved.

 

[waheed_sofi]

He opened the bowling twice against eng but failed both times.

He bowled 3 overs for 13 runs in 4th odi and 2 for 16 in 5th , was replaced by hasnain in both matches who was punished in both matches heavily. Sarfaraz doesn't know how to use hasan properly. He should be used between 1- 45 over and should not be used at extreme death overs where often he fails as he losses his rhythm when batsman go for unorthodox shots.
He is rhythm type bowler when on song becomes dangerous. Sarfaraz doesn't give him time in opening spells to get his rhythm right.

 

[Slim]

Pakistan players have novelty factor which is why they do well initially but then fade away because teams work them out and these players don't have the skill or the desire to continuously keep themselves ahead of the curve.

Not really, he lost his main wicket taking weapon - the dipper. Also, he let fame get to his head and ruined it for him. He can still redeem himself.

 

[The Viper]

A really strange case. He does seem to ball better with the new ball. Hopefully he can improve in the WC. He bowled really well in the PSL opening albeit a different format.

 

[Ahson8]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] what do you think has gone wrong ?

 

[light]

This is what happens when you let fame get to your head, well deserved.

Looks like a pretty level headed fella. Then again, I don't follow his news 24/7. Anything in particular he has done?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Too short and too slow

 

[Bewal Express]

Loses concentration too easily. His strategy is also poor at times as shown by his bowling to Curran in the final odi- he bowls Yorkers and the batsman cant get him away, he bowls length or short and he gets smacked, so what does he do?

 

[CadPakFan]

Looks like a pretty level headed fella. Then again, I don't follow his news 24/7. Anything in particular he has done?

He said he was going to take 10 wickets against India in the Asia Cup

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] what do you think has gone wrong ?

Sarfaraz's captaincy. He's a coward.

 

[Jabo]

Wasn't that special to begin with

Too much hype and the relax phase started

Something that regularly happens

 

[MMHS]

Pakistan players have novelty factor which is why they do well initially but then fade away because teams work them out and these players don't have the skill or the desire to continuously keep themselves ahead of the curve.

Partially true - the novelty factor, but not the rest. For any skill based game, this is true actually that skilled newcomers will come with a novelty factor, then it’s all about development - self, as well as coaching & mentoring, so that one can keep in touch with counter skills. Previously, it was true for PAK batsmen only, but sadly now bowlers as well - Hasan, Shadab, Shaheen. For Hasan’s case, I have to blame Sarfraz as well, but still the majority blame goes to coaching & domestic cricket. Individually Hasan also might have taken fame a bit granted, but that can’t be for 2 years - he has suffered enough embarrassment not to be riding high horses now.

Cricket is a slow, lengthy game by nature - young players come with natural skills, which they perfect through FC games. This is what is neglected most in PAK cricket, hence young bowlers are fading away too soon & alarmingly too many.

 

[ali2220]

One thing to note is that guys like SSA,Shadab Khan, Hasnain are T20 products, they haven't played FC cricket atall, unless they play full FC cricket their game wont develop.This is where Waseem Khan can come in handy, he can get these guy some county contact and that will help alot.

 

[octavian]

Pakistani players including Hassan Ali stop evolving after they see some success.

In this age of data analytics, players' strengths and weaknesses are dissected very quickly and teams develop measures to counter them. In the old days, only a few players had the knack to dissect the other players.

These days the information gets out rather quickly and if you don't evolve and add other dimension to your game, you will fade away. Sadly, our players regress with time instead of progressing.

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

I don't know what's wrong with him but during the recent series versus England he kept bowling length balls to English batsmen even in death overs.In psl he was completely different bowler it might have something to do with Darren Sammy's captaincy.Sarfraz useless don't understand how to use him.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Too short and too slow

He's the same height as he was when he was the no 1 bowler, so don't think that is it.

As for pace, he is usually bowling similar pace to Hasnain, might be slightly less, but not that much in it.

From what I have seen he is more erratic now, don't know whether it is the balls they use in England, but hopefully he will settle down. I still think he is a good bowler, him and Wahab looked a class above all the other pacers in the PSL.

 

[sshakir411]

He should be leading our attack. He’s still our best and should open with Amir.

 

[aloo paratha]

Give him the new ball. He will come good. He got a total of 5 overs with the new ball across 2 games and didn't even do that bad taking into account the pitches we played on. We all saw how well he bowled with the new ball in the PSL, give him more chances in internationals and he will come good.

Also, I think he should finish his 10 overs by the 45th over, he's not the best death bowler in the team but he is the best new ball bowler.

 

[Kianig89]

Fitness issues playing on highways captain not using him in an astute way all contributed in this downfall

 

[The_Odd_One]

He's the same height as he was when he was the no 1 bowler, so don't think that is it.

As for pace, he is usually bowling similar pace to Hasnain, might be slightly less, but not that much in it.

From what I have seen he is more erratic now, don't know whether it is the balls they use in England, but hopefully he will settle down. I still think he is a good bowler, him and Wahab looked a class above all the other pacers in the PSL.

I really can't recall many short successful fast bowler even in limited overs. Hassan became the #1 bowler due to the novelty factor. Even then, he never opened the bowling and did not pick up top order wickets. Most teams have figured him out. He does not have enough pace or skills to trouble the batsmen, neither can he extract enough bounce due to his short height.

Does he have the future in the team? Yes, I believe so but I do not think he will get close to anywhere near top 5 bowlers. He's an average to good bowler and will remain so.

 

[Mirpur express]

simple..Azhar Mehmood

 

[Mirpur express]

I really can't recall many short successful fast bowler even in limited overs. Hassan became the #1 bowler due to the novelty factor. Even then, he never opened the bowling and did not pick up top order wickets. Most teams have figured him out. He does not have enough pace or skills to trouble the batsmen, neither can he extract enough bounce due to his short height.

Does he have the future in the team? Yes, I believe so but I do not think he will get close to anywhere near top 5 bowlers. He's an average to good bowler and will remain so.

Lmao *

 

[Mirpur express]

Fitness issues playing on highways captain not using him in an astute way all contributed in this downfall

Good points

 

[ILcricket]

too caught up with juvenile nautanki imo .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I really can't recall many short successful fast bowler even in limited overs. Hassan became the #1 bowler due to the novelty factor. Even then, he never opened the bowling and did not pick up top order wickets. Most teams have figured him out. He does not have enough pace or skills to trouble the batsmen, neither can he extract enough bounce due to his short height.

Does he have the future in the team? Yes, I believe so but I do not think he will get close to anywhere near top 5 bowlers. He's an average to good bowler and will remain so.

He gets surprising bounce actually. I don't think there's anything to figure out as far as novelty factor, on his day he can produce some really great spells of bowling. Also has a big match temperament unlike snowflake Junaid. I expect him to post some decent figures in a few matches during the world cup.

 

[Yezir]

the biggest reason is ego
I still remember his comment about taking 10 wickets aganist India during Asia Cup. Arrogance does never take you a long way in life & Specially in cricket when every single game is a new experience . This is actually the problem with most pakistani players. They get egoistic the second they get a good start in their career. Just learn to be humble like some of your ex players ( younis khan , misbah, even Shoiab AKthar)

 

[Hasan123]

He hasn't improved his game that much. Also that beating he took against India seems to have affected his confidence. I am a fan of Hasan Ali but his lack of progression is really worrying.

 

[Mkumar825]

This is what happens when you let fame get to your head, well deserved.

Absolutely .when I saw him during champion trophy I thought he is gun bowler who have wicket taking ability but after champion trophy success he stop working hard .

 

[ali2220]

the biggest reason is ego
I still remember his comment about taking 10 wickets aganist India during Asia Cup. Arrogance does never take you a long way in life & Specially in cricket when every single game is a new experience . This is actually the problem with most pakistani players. They get egoistic the second they get a good start in their career. Just learn to be humble like some of your ex players ( younis khan , misbah, even Shoiab AKthar)

Foolish comments. The most egoistic players happened to be Younis Khan and Shoaib Akhtar, noone of the present players can match them in that respect.Most Pak players happen to be very humble, guys like Fakhar,Hasnain,Harris,Hafeez,,Azhar ali,Asad shafeeq, asif ali,Sarfraz are all very down to earth.If you look in past guys like Imran Khan,Miandad,Sarfraz Nawaz,Abdul Qadir,Waqar Younis,Akhtar,Younis Ego Khan etc very very egoistic yet they were very very successful.

 

[shaz619]

Sarfaraz's captaincy. He's a coward.

Subhanallah, I have never read more beautiful words on PP, I admire this truth

Apologies [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

 

[Saj]

Asked Azhar Mahmood about the number 1 to number 26 drop for Hasan Ali.

He answers the question in his upcoming blog.

 

[Yezir]

Younis Khan & Akthar never looked like they had any ego issues. Akthar is still loved by many in india & Same goes for Younis & Misbah while on the other hand, Hasan Ali is already a troll meme for his 10 wicket comment

 

[MMHS]

Foolish comments. The most egoistic players happened to be Younis Khan and Shoaib Akhtar, noone of the present players can match them in that respect.Most Pak players happen to be very humble, guys like Fakhar,Hasnain,Harris,Hafeez,,Azhar ali,Asad shafeeq, asif ali,Sarfraz are all very down to earth.If you look in past guys like Imran Khan,Miandad,Sarfraz Nawaz,Abdul Qadir,Waqar Younis,Akhtar,Younis Ego Khan etc very very egoistic yet they were very very successful.

I think, your last line needs a little modification- please replace “yet” with “and/so”, you have explained it perfectly. Most PAK players these days have quite a good reason to be humble to be honest.

 

[Majid Khan]

Some players once they get a taste of success work even harder and practice on improving their skills to become better
and achieve more success - then there’s Pakistani players who taste a bit of success and are convinced that they’ve made it to the big-time - no need to practice or improve anymore, after all they are now superstars and ranked at the top.

 

[ali2220]

Younis Khan & Akthar never looked like they had any ego issues. Akthar is still loved by many in india & Same goes for Younis & Misbah while on the other hand, Hasan Ali is already a troll meme for his 10 wicket comment

Kids like you knows very little, also popularity has nothing to do with being humble. Virat is arrogant, still he is more popular in Pakistan than the humble Tendulkar.