Haseeb Hameed AKA Baby Boycott - Performance Watch

[delpiero10]

After his performance with England and the current difficulties with openers for England. I feel any other player would have been given a go as opener after recovering from injury. His a solid opening batsman at international level, he should have been given enough goes as Balance was given. He does have a solid mental attitude at international level. He probably just became bored with county cricket.

Now he is going to find it hard I feel, I hope another county picks him up. Even then he will have to treat each match as his last for a while.

Guys like Ballance and Compton went back to county cricket after being dropped and churned out runs again, thus meriting their re-selection.

Hameed has done barely anything of note in nearly three full seasons of county cricket since his England debut in 2016. He’s not been making enough runs to even merit a place in Lancashire’s first team, let alone get an England call up.

Who knows whether he’d have gone down this same path if he didn’t break his finger in India. All the signs in his three test matches were that he was a calm, composed and very skilled batsman. Clearly something went wrong in between breaking his finger whilst playing for England in India in 2016, and coming back from injury at the start of the 2017 county season.

I can’t see him leaving the game altogether - he doesn’t seem like the Zafar Ansari type to just walk away from the game at a young age to pursue other interests. I’m almost certain that at worst (unless Hameed’s contract demands are ridiculous), that a “smaller” county team would be willing to offer him the chance to rediscover his game, and potentially (although it is a LONG way off) a route back into the England test team.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

The comparison with Zaf Ansari is interesting. Andari was also unlucky with injuries at crucial times.
However, he also has a double first from Cambridge and has pursued a career that fulfils him outside cricket.
I fear that Hammed has nothing else to fall back on if he does not manage a return to at least country level

 

[The Viper]

I don’t how how somebody could sink that low after looking so promising.

Lancashire gave him enough chances tbh. Another county will most likely take a chance on him.

 

[Last Monetarist]

I highly doubt he has entirely bypassed the coaching staff and system at Lancashire and beyond.

Of course not. There was an interview with Bumble on Sky last year where he stated that Lancashire were very unhappy at his father's involvement. Paul Allott's comments about the county going over and beyond to help Hameed, which he didn't deserve, certainly suggest that there's a lot of bitterness there. For Hameed's sake, I hope he manages to find an environment away from his family in order to start afresh. There's clearly a lot of talent there.

 

[Varun]

What did his father do?

 

[Cricketrenew]

Of course not. There was an interview with Bumble on Sky last year where he stated that Lancashire were very unhappy at his father's involvement. Paul Allott's comments about the county going over and beyond to help Hameed, which he didn't deserve, certainly suggest that there's a lot of bitterness there. For Hameed's sake, I hope he manages to find an environment away from his family in order to start afresh. There's clearly a lot of talent there.

Sometimes everyone seems to know better than those close to you. It looks as though too many people tinkering and getting involved maybe coaching wise. He just needs to be left alone and let him play.

Lancashire maybe not happy with his pay and the returns they were getting. Maybe wanted to coach him better? guessing ….

 

[Cricketrenew]

Guys like Ballance and Compton went back to county cricket after being dropped and churned out runs again, thus meriting their re-selection.

Hameed has done barely anything of note in nearly three full seasons of county cricket since his England debut in 2016. He’s not been making enough runs to even merit a place in Lancashire’s first team, let alone get an England call up.

Who knows whether he’d have gone down this same path if he didn’t break his finger in India. All the signs in his three test matches were that he was a calm, composed and very skilled batsman. Clearly something went wrong in between breaking his finger whilst playing for England in India in 2016, and coming back from injury at the start of the 2017 county season.

I can’t see him leaving the game altogether - he doesn’t seem like the Zafar Ansari type to just walk away from the game at a young age to pursue other interests. I’m almost certain that at worst (unless Hameed’s contract demands are ridiculous), that a “smaller” county team would be willing to offer him the chance to rediscover his game, and potentially (although it is a LONG way off) a route back into the England test team.

These guys were continually being dropped then recalled I don't believe injuries were involved.

Sometimes you have to go with your gut.... Hameed seemed the closed to Cook in temperament... he should have been picked instead of going back to county cricket and once again proving himself and being picked.....

In the end everyone has lost out..... maybe he can start performing with coaches, father tinkering?

 

[zarar]

What did his father do?

He's involved with absolutely everything in regards to Haseeb and makes the final decisions for whatever Haseeb himself wishes to pursue. It's all nice and that having family support and your father as a life coach but sometimes you have to be your own man and try something else and listen to professionals who have been through similar scenarios. His dad never played professional cricket and I don't think Haseeb will want him out of his ears due to the sheer respect and love for his father which is a given but if he wants to return too England which seems incredibly difficult now Haseeb Hameed needs to become his own man.

 

[ElRaja]

hes still young, and given his pedigree a lot of people will see his issues are more than skin deep. he needs to get away, play some lower level cricket in the off season, maybe get away form his family, and come back with a weaker county.

one or two seasons averaging 40 odd again will see him right back into contention imo, and he would still only be in his mids 20s.

 

[Robert]

He might do well to move away from Lancashire.

 

[Manunited18]

He's involved with absolutely everything in regards to Haseeb and makes the final decisions for whatever Haseeb himself wishes to pursue. It's all nice and that having family support and your father as a life coach but sometimes you have to be your own man and try something else and listen to professionals who have been through similar scenarios. His dad never played professional cricket and I don't think Haseeb will want him out of his ears due to the sheer respect and love for his father which is a given but if he wants to return too England which seems incredibly difficult now Haseeb Hameed needs to become his own man.

I follow lancashire cc very closely as my lad plays age group cricket there, haseeb dad involvement stopped once he signed professional contracts, it's age group cricket before you get involved with academy and professional ranks, all this is a myth his dad was involved to much

 

[Manunited18]

He might do well to move away from Lancashire.

Yes, basically he didn't perform for lancs, he was given ample opportunity, his Achilles heel was to often getting squared up

 

[HitWicket]

I follow lancashire cc very closely as my lad plays age group cricket there, haseeb dad involvement stopped once he signed professional contracts, it's age group cricket before you get involved with academy and professional ranks, all this is a myth his dad was involved to much

Highly doubt the club chairman and international commentators with strong links to the clubs are all putting out myths. Haseeb even said it himself that his Dad was still coaching him whilst making his England test debut.

 

[Manunited18]

Highly doubt the club chairman and international commentators with strong links to the clubs are all putting out myths. Haseeb even said it himself that his Dad was still coaching him whilst making his England test debut.

So a elite performance team will allow some ones dad to interfere with his day to day management? That's a first for me

 

[Manunited18]

As for coaching I have seen haseeb and his dad at the indoor center at emirates using the high quality bowling machines, on the flip side when we've been going for indoor age group nets the main first team squad have been there and haseeb been involved and thers been no sign of his dad involved there

 

[HitWicket]

So a elite performance team will allow some ones dad to interfere with his day to day management? That's a first for me

What can they do? They can try and coach him but they can't exactly stop him from having nets with his Dad. They've not renewed his contract and stated that his fathers interference wasn't helping.

 

[Manunited18]

What can they do? They can try and coach him but they can't exactly stop him from having nets with his Dad. They've not renewed his contract and stated that his fathers interference wasn't helping.

According to allot, the main reason for him being released is not performing, everything else is a after thought

 

[Sir-fraz]

mentally hes not there. i dont think he shouldve been dropped once he made his debut for eng.

that couldve done some damage confidence wise. other then that he needs to remove family involvement in his sport career, and listen to pros. sports crazy parents are never good, especially when they hover over you like a fly.

 

[Manunited18]

mentally hes not there. i dont think he shouldve been dropped once he made his debut for eng.

that couldve done some damage confidence wise. other then that he needs to remove family involvement in his sport career, and listen to pros. sports crazy parents are never good, especially when they hover over you like a fly.

This "father involvement " is baseless, when he performed admirably against india a few years back in India then there was no talk of all this nonsense then, he was the talk of the country as the next big thing

 

[MenInG]

Nottinghamshire have secured the signing of Haseeb Hameed on a two-year deal.

The 22-year-old, who scored two half-centuries in his three Test appearances for England, has committed to the Club until the end of the 2021 season.

The right-hander had previously spent the entirety of his professional career with Lancashire.

“I’m very excited to be joining Nottinghamshire and playing my cricket at Trent Bridge,” said Hameed.

“I’ve enjoyed myself every time I’ve played at this great venue and hope to add to some good memories there.

“This is a new chapter in both my life and career and I’m full of excitement to start working with my new teammates and helping get Notts back up to Division 1 where they belong.

“I want to thank Lancashire for the support they’ve provided over the years and to my teammates, whom I’ve shared a dressing room with.

“A special mention to Mick Newell and Peter Moores at Notts for believing in me. I can’t wait to get started.”

Bolton-born Hameed has notched just shy of 3,000 runs in First-Class cricket to date having become the fifth-youngest batsman to chalk up 1,000 in a season in 2016.

The opener lifted Lancashire’s Player of the Season award in the same summer and went on to make three Test appearances for England in India, posting scored of 31, 82 and 59*.

“There’s no doubting Haseeb’s talent,” said Head Coach Peter Moores.

“It doesn’t get much tougher than Test cricket in India and he proved over there, at a very young age, that he has all the skill, temperament and patience to succeed at the highest level.

“He’s enjoyed some more difficult times since then, and that’s going to happen with young players, but the ones that are destined for great things bounce back and move their games on again.

“We believe that’s what’s going to happen with Haseeb and it’s great news for Notts that we can be the ones to benefit from that.”

Moores, who watched Hameed defy a Notts bowling line-up including Stuart Broad and Imran Tahir with a six-hour vigil of 122 at Trent Bridge three years ago, believes the former England under 19s opener’s approach is exactly what his side needs.

“We’ve got exciting stroke players in our red-ball team, but it’s really important that we find a way to bat longer,” said the Head Coach who recently committed his own future to Notts by penning a two-year deal.

“Haseeb’s approach is patient, methodical and based on crease occupation. They’re old-fashioned virtues in many ways, but they’re completely relevant to the modern-day game and exactly what we need to help us get better.”

 

[Saj]

Good signing by Notts.

Haseeb needs a new challenge at this stage of his career.

 

[MenInG]

68 for Notts against Derbyshire in the Bob Willis trophy

 

[MenInG]

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[Manunited18]

Watch this space, like i stated a few months back on haseeb, the kid is a massive talent, and he will force his way back in to England recognition.

 

[MenInG]

Haseeb Hameed has credited the warm environment he walked into at Nottinghamshire with giving him the freedom to perform, after hitting a half-century on the opening day of the 2020 season.

The 23-year-old scored 68 in his maiden First-Class innings for the county, helping his side to post 324.

“Coming to Notts has been a really refreshing change,” he said.

“The players have created a very special environment here, and I felt extremely comfortable being myself straight away.

“It was a very special feeling to make my debut today, and to contribute to what I feel is a good total as well.”

Hameed forged a formidable opening stand with Chris Nash in the morning session, with the duo lunching soon after posting a century partnership.

“I really enjoyed batting with Nashy this morning,” he said.

“He batted beautifully, and he’s awesome to be in the middle with. He simplifies things, and takes a lot of pressure off you when you’re out there.”

The pair were parted with the score on 111 when Nash fell lbw to Sam Conners, with the hosts going on to lose seven wickets in the afternoon session.

Hameed feels, however, that the lower-order runs added by Samit Patel, Jake Ball and Joey Evison leave Notts in a strong position.

“I actually felt like the first session wasn’t a fair reflection of the wicket,” he said.


“I didn’t really feel fully in at any point. It always felt like there would be one ball that would bounce on you, or do something and get you out.

“Derbyshire held their length better and challenged us a bit more in the second session. While it’s disappointing to have lost those wickets, you have to accept the opposition bowled well and got their rewards.

“From 192-7, we are very happy with where we are. The way Joey and Bally played was brilliant, and definitely gives us something to build on tomorrow.”

Before the start of play, Hameed received his county cap from skipper Steven Mullaney. It was a moment the right-hander admitted was special.

“Playing for Notts is everything for me right now – it’s an honour and a privilege,” he said.

“There’ve been some unbelievable players that have gone before us, and I always enjoyed playing here when I was part of the opposition, so to have Trent Bridge as my home now is very special.”

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[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Really happy for Haseeb and his good start. After a dream career start, the fall from grace was very surprising. InshAllah, his rise from here on in will be even better

 

[MenInG]

52 in second innings - excellent work.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Baby Boycott forever.

Wishing this kid well and hoping he makes his Pakistan debut soon.

Imagine Baby and Boby batting together

 

[King_Kohli]

After this he never comeback.
Next time dont talk to Kohli

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Baby Boycott forever.

Wishing this kid well and hoping he makes his Pakistan debut soon.

Imagine Baby and Boby batting together

I think he is aiming for England debut, no?

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Just checked he’s already debuted for England! Didn’t realize.

 

[Robert]

Watch this space, like i stated a few months back on haseeb, the kid is a massive talent, and he will force his way back in to England recognition.

I do hope so, would love to see him back at #3 for England.

 

[Manunited18]

I do hope so, would love to see him back at #3 for England.

Yes, Any Where in the top 3 even though I'm a big fan of Zak Crawley who needs a good consistent run in the side and should not have lost his place in the final test v windies

 

[Manunited18]

Just checked he’s already debuted for England! Didn’t realize.

Yes , he had A good series in India against a quality India attack

 

[Saj]

Looked superb but as we have seen so many times in Pakistsn, he fell away badly.

Still a young man, so time is on his side.

 

[Robert]

Yes, Any Where in the top 3 even though I'm a big fan of Zak Crawley who needs a good consistent run in the side and should not have lost his place in the final test v windies

Suddenly there are several young top order test quality batters in the mix again. The wheel is turning.

 

[MenInG]

Haseeb Hameed has signed a contract extension with Nottinghamshire until the end of the 2022 season.

The opening batsman struck three half-centuries in a truncated first season with the Green and Golds, ending with 272 Bob Wills Trophy runs at an average of 38.85.

The 23-year-old’s opening partnership with Ben Slater averaged 93 across three matches.

“Playing for Notts is everything to me now,” said Hameed.

“Last winter after leaving Lancashire, I took my time to decide which was the right club for me.

“It’s a decision I wanted to get just right; to find a county I could be passionate about playing for and to make it a long and successful association with one club.

“Whether it be the history and tradition of the venue, the welcoming atmosphere among the group of players, or the lovely family feel throughout the club, everything feels right and I know I made the right decision.

“In the context of a vastly shortened season, I feel that lots of promise was shown in four-day cricket, both for the team and for myself with the bat.

“It demonstrated to me that we’re building a team and that there's a lot we can achieve in the next few years in red ball cricket. Meanwhile, the incentive is there for me to push for a place in a really successful white ball side as well.

“We’re back in pre-season training already; I’m working on my fitness and on my game, and it’s all geared towards giving ourselves the best possible chance of being successful next summer.”

The three-time England international passed 3,000 career First-Class runs during his first season with the Green and Golds, posting scores of 68, 52 and 87.

Despite having to wait until late in the summer to first represent the club, Head Coach Peter Moores insists Hameed had made an impression long before then.

“Haseeb made a significant impact from the moment he joined us,” said Moores.

“He hit the ground running with his work ethic and the intensity of his training, and he gelled with his teammates very quickly.

“The lockdown came at a really frustrating time for him because he’d joined a new club, had an excellent pre-season and, like all of us, was ready to play.

“When we were able to get out there in August, he started to show what an accomplished opening batsman he can be.

“He played positively and looked to score, but also showed the resilience to soak up pressure, bat for periods of time, wear the opposition bowlers down and make life more comfortable for his teammates in the middle order.

“He formed an opening partnership with Ben Slater that looked really promising for us as a team moving forward.

"Regarding white-ball cricket, he's shown a real ability in the 50-over game, has ambitions to further that in T20 cricket and has all the attributes required to do so."

 

[Robert]

I am not entirely convinced by Burns and Sibley and would like to see Haseeb open, with Crawley at first drop.

 

[shaz619]

I am not entirely convinced by Burns and Sibley and would like to see Haseeb open, with Crawley at first drop.

Too soon for him, he's no Joe Root. Also, opening has its added pressure on top of everything else. He needs more time in FC cricket, am sure England have an eye on him anyway and will avoid mistakes made in the past. He may well be better then both those guys but better to have a smoother transition to international cricket and reap the long term benefits.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

He’s 24 next month and has already been playing first class cricket for almost 5 years now. Not sure he can use age or inexperience as an excuse anymore - if he’s good enough (I think he’s worth another go) he’s old enough.

 

[shaz619]

He’s 24 next month and has already been playing first class cricket for almost 5 years now. Not sure he can use age or inexperience as an excuse anymore - if he’s good enough (I think he’s worth another go) he’s old enough.

He needs to be consistent in FC cricket first though and get more runs behind him

 

[Robert]

Too soon for him, he's no Joe Root. Also, opening has its added pressure on top of everything else. He needs more time in FC cricket, am sure England have an eye on him anyway and will avoid mistakes made in the past. He may well be better then both those guys but better to have a smoother transition to international cricket and reap the long term benefits.

Oh I don’t know, Atherton came in at a younger age than Haseeb and did well.

 

[MenInG]

Haseeb Hameed paid tribute to India captain Virat Kohli for inspiring a revival that the England top-order batsman hopes will see him regain his Test place. Hameed signed a new contract with English county side Nottinghamshire on Thursday that is set to keep him with the Midlands club until the end of the 2022 season. He scored three half-centuries in five Bob Willis Trophy matches for Nottinghamshire after moving to Trent Bridge from his native Lancashire at the end of last season, when it looked like a once promising career might be cut short.

Bolton-born Hameed left Old Trafford just three years after impressing for England in India.

But the runs dried up to such an extent that in 2018 his average failed to reach double figures.

A change of scene, however, means Hameed, is now looking to add to his three Test caps.

"Having got a taste of it very young and then those experiences that followed, it has been an absolute rollercoaster but that ambition is still there," Hameed said of an England recall.

"I am 23, I will be 24 in a couple of months but I still see myself hopefully playing this game I love for another 12 to 13 years, if not longer."

Aged just 19, Hameed marked his Test debut by making 82 in the second innings against India at Rajkot.

Such was his concentration and correct technique he was nicknamed 'Baby Boycott' in honour of England opening great Geoffrey Boycott.

Kohli then labelled Hameed a "future star" after he made an unbeaten 59 with a broken finger in Mohali.

But the injury led to a dramatic dip in form that saw Hameed playing for Lancashire's second XI.

'Confidence'

Kohli's words, however, helped keep Hameed going.

"Obviously for someone like Virat to say that does give you a lot of confidence and he is a massive inspiration for me as it is," Hameed said.

"I think he is a great inspiration for people to look at and see what you can achieve if you put your mind to it and have a bit of discipline."

As for his own "mental resilience", Hameed added: "I have something deep down that won't let me stop."

While he would have never contemplated "waking away from the game", Hameed said he had doubts.

"That is when you need something within you, deep down to stop you from giving in and to try one more time and to keep doing that," he said.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/vir...er-revival-for-englands-haseeb-hameed-2334086

 

[MenInG]

The three-time England international, who commenced his career at Trent Bridge by averaging 39 in the Bob Willis Trophy last season, will lead his adopted county’s 50-over team in the absence of Steven Mullaney who has been drafted by Trent Rockets for The Hundred.

“It’s an honour to be handed the responsibility of being Vice-Captain and I’m also really looking forward to the challenge of leading a talented young team into the Royal London Cup,” said Hameed.

“I love playing under Mull (Mullaney) and – whether it be by scoring runs with the bat, keeping the lads going during tough periods in the field or being involved tactically – I’ll be doing everything I can to contribute to the team in red-ball cricket.

“As captain in the 50-over game, we have a proud record in white-ball competitions as a club and that’s something we’ll be determined to continue.

“We have all the quality and depth in our squad to be successful across three competitions this year and that’s what we’re working hard to achieve.”

Having helped secure the sought-after signing of Hameed last winter, Peter Moores has seen leadership qualities in the opening batsman ever since.

“Hass became a popular member of the group very quickly,” said the Head Coach.

“He has an infectious enthusiasm for the game, has raised the bar with his fitness and the intensity of his practice and he’s thrown himself into life as a Notts player.

“We informed the lads the other day about the decision to make him Vice-Captain, and the positive, supportive way they reacted was great to see.

“He’ll grow as a result of this experience and we believe he’s a player with an exciting future, both as a leader and with the

https://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/s...-outlaws-in-the-2021-royal-london-cup-3152829

 

[Last Monetarist]

This decision by Notts is a massive surprise, but clearly suggests that Hameed has matured a lot since leaving Lancashire.

This bodes well for Hameed's international future too. Given the brittle nature of the English top-order, Hameed simply needs one consistent season in the Championship to be close to a recall.

 

[Bilal7]

With England's openers completely helpless, hopefully he gets a call-up this summer.

 

[Manunited18]

Hameed has alot of potential, definitely see him as a England opener in the not yo distant future.

 

[Finisher]

Finally gets another FC century

 

[MenInG]

2 hundreds in the game for Haseeb in Nottinghamshire v Worcs

225 runs (111, 114no)
824 minutes at the crease
635 balls faced
24 boundaries

 

[MenInG]

 

[shamaan]

He should be part of the test team

 

[anakwalajinn]

Good to see him back scoring runs again! Hope to see him in the England squad soon!

 

[Robert]

2 hundreds in the game for Haseeb in Nottinghamshire v Worcs

225 runs (111, 114no)
824 minutes at the crease
635 balls faced
24 boundaries

Excellent. The current England openers went backwards in India and he should come in to face NZ in the first test.

 

[GreenKhan]

He should be part of the test team

This is the problem with this forum , a few scores and we start calling for them to be selected for the National team . Then when they fail due to being undercooked we label them as TTFs.

Haseeb no doubt has potential . But he has been on the wilderness for a few years , and these are this first class centuries in over two years .

He needs to get some consistency this season and scores 1000 runs before he is selected , it will do him a world of good .

 

[James]

Well done to him.
A possible Test recall is around the corner.

 

[shamaan]

This is the problem with this forum , a few scores and we start calling for them to be selected for the National team . Then when they fail due to being undercooked we label them as TTFs.

Haseeb no doubt has potential . But he has been on the wilderness for a few years , and these are this first class centuries in over two years .

He needs to get some consistency this season and scores 1000 runs before he is selected , it will do him a world of good .

How are the current England openers doing ?
How many preview have scored 1000 before getting selected?

He averaged 43 in 3 tests.

 

[Robert]

This is the problem with this forum , a few scores and we start calling for them to be selected for the National team . Then when they fail due to being undercooked we label them as TTFs.

Haseeb no doubt has potential . But he has been on the wilderness for a few years , and these are this first class centuries in over two years .

He needs to get some consistency this season and scores 1000 runs before he is selected , it will do him a world of good .

He looked good in the few tests he played, organised and calm.

 

[krikit]

He looked good in the few tests he played, organised and calm.

Those tests were in India and the pitches weren't seaming and swinging even by Indian standards. I would be more cautious than hopeful of Hameed at this point. Even Jennings scored a century in the next test.

 

[GreenKhan]

He looked good in the few tests he played, organised and calm.

No doubt he did . But that was a while ago. Since then he averaged single figures in one domestic season and only scored his first hundreds in over 3 years most recently. Way to premature for him to get a test call up .

 

[GreenKhan]

How are the current England openers doing ?
How many preview have scored 1000 before getting selected?

He averaged 43 in 3 tests.

He did well for England. But since then his form completely nosedived . One season he averaged 10, and then ended up playing for Lancashire seconds .

Way to premature to be drafted in to the test side . He needs to show some consistency. His first class average is only 32. Had he shown consistency he would have got his place back by now .

Big season for him .

 

[shamaan]

He did well for England. But since then his form completely nosedived . One season he averaged 10, and then ended up playing for Lancashire seconds .

Way to premature to be drafted in to the test side . He needs to show some consistency. His first class average is only 32. Had he shown consistency he would have got his place back by now .

Big season for him .

Zack Crawley averages 30 in first class cricket after playing 50 games.

 

[The Viper]

He did well the last game, but he shouldn't be picked on the basis of one match. He needs to carry on scoring and get 1000+ runs.

 

[GreenKhan]

Zack Crawley averages 30 in first class cricket after playing 50 games.

Haseeb got dropped from his county team only two years ago . This is the first time in over two years he has scored a first class century.

Let the guy play and score some runs on a consistent basis . What is so simple to understand about that .

 

[shamaan]

Haseeb got dropped from his county team only two years ago . This is the first time in over two years he has scored a first class century. We are so kneejerk on this forum .

Let the guy play and score some runs on a consistent basis . What is so simple to understand about that .

Has Crawley scored consistent runs has buttler scored consistant runs the answer is NO how many centuries does Crawley have in domestic .

 

[HitWicket]

Hameed averages 23.91 in the 4 seasons since he played for England with the majority of his runs coming in divison 2 or the BW trophy (where divisions were mixed up). He needs to do a lot more than just hit a couple of hundreds against Worcestershire to be seriously considered for selection.

 

[Robert]

Hameed averages 23.91 in the 4 seasons since he played for England with the majority of his runs coming in divison 2 or the BW trophy (where divisions were mixed up). He needs to do a lot more than just hit a couple of hundreds against Worcestershire to be seriously considered for selection.

It’s more about character at the top level. Hameed has his touch back, so he will be picked.

 

[Mamoon]

British Asian players do not have bottle. As soon as they go through some poor form and their careers takes a downward turn, they lose the plot and struggle to recover.

A lot of it has probably got to do with the fact that they are always insecure about their place in the team and are always worried about getting shafted for a white player.

If Haseeb fails on his return to England, i.e. if he gets selected again, he will once again forget how to bat if he fails on his comeback.

 

[GreenKhan]

Hameed averages 23.91 in the 4 seasons since he played for England with the majority of his runs coming in divison 2 or the BW trophy (where divisions were mixed up). He needs to do a lot more than just hit a couple of hundreds against Worcestershire to be seriously considered for selection.

Finally some sense and a bit of rationale. Faith in humanity restored .

 

[Robert]

British Asian players do not have bottle. As soon as they go through some poor form and their careers takes a downward turn, they lose the plot and struggle to recover.

A lot of it has probably got to do with the fact that they are always insecure about their place in the team and are always worried about getting shafted for a white player.

If Haseeb fails on his return to England, i.e. if he gets selected again, he will once again forget how to bat if he fails on his comeback.

Nasser did.

 

[Mamoon]

Nasser did.

He was an exception and more importantly, he was half-white. As a result, he probably did not go through the same experiences that other British Asian cricketers do.

Moeen Ali, Solanki, Ramprakash, Kabir Ali, Panesar, Owais Shah, Sajid Mahmood, Bopara, Aftab Habib etc. all lack (lacked) resilience.

Hameed seems to be following their footsteps as well.

Maybe Adil Rashid could be viewed as an exception within the British Asian group.

 

[sindhiboy]

I think they will stick with burns, Sibley and Crawley as openers.

Hameed has to score a truckload of runs to be considered for the squad.

Burns is a good batsman who has just gone through a bad patch of form

 

[Saj]

94 today against Derbyshire at Derby.

Notts with a huge lead and should win the match.

 

[MenInG]

49 today for Haseeb for Nottinghamshire versus Essex in a low scoring day after Essex were bowled out for only 99 at Trent Bridge.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

British Asian players do not have bottle. As soon as they go through some poor form and their careers takes a downward turn, they lose the plot and struggle to recover.

A lot of it has probably got to do with the fact that they are always insecure about their place in the team and are always worried about getting shafted for a white player.

If Haseeb fails on his return to England, i.e. if he gets selected again, he will once again forget how to bat if he fails on his comeback.

Its kinda pathetic how you regularly keep peddling stereotypes here and then act like you actually know what you are talking about. Less than six percent of the players in county cricket are British Asians. For their remarkably small numbers its quite impressive that England currently has two in their side who are established performers, while others like Hameed and Virdi are doing fairly well in the county circuit.

 

[sabre1486]

Its kinda pathetic how you regularly keep peddling stereotypes here and then act like you actually know what you are talking about. Less than six percent of the players in county cricket are British Asians. For their remarkably small numbers its quite impressive that England currently has two in their side who are established performers, while others like Hameed and Virdi are doing fairly well in the county circuit.

you know the worse part is he will double down on his 'insight' inspite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Hameed missed out on a 50 today out for 49. he needs to put up a 1000 run season to get back into the reckoning i think

 

[Mamoon]

Its kinda pathetic how you regularly keep peddling stereotypes here and then act like you actually know what you are talking about. Less than six percent of the players in county cricket are British Asians. For their remarkably small numbers its quite impressive that England currently has two in their side who are established performers, while others like Hameed and Virdi are doing fairly well in the county circuit.

There is always a hint of truth in every stereotype. The percentage of British Asian players might be low, but when they do turn up for England, you can be almost sure that their careers will go off the rails very quickly or they will hang on to it by a string like Moeen these days.

There must be something wrong for the failure of almost every British Asian in the last 15-20 years. Exploring those reason does not deserve to labeled as stereotyping.

 

[Rana]

British South African cricketers have the bottle

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

There is always a hint of truth in every stereotype. The percentage of British Asian players might be low, but when they do turn up for England, you can be almost sure that their careers will go off the rails very quickly or they will hang on to it by a string like Moeen these days.

There must be something wrong for the failure of almost every British Asian in the last 15-20 years. Exploring those reason does not deserve to labeled as stereotyping.

Indulging in whataboutery doesn't qualify as ''exploring those reason''. I could name 50 players from the 1990s to 2000s or the last 15-20 years that were even bigger failures for England than the names you mentioned. Did you take into account their ethnicity?

This is the problem with people who peddle stereotypes. They think they know how a certain group of people act or behave. Nevermind the fact that it is an insulting notion to begin with that disregards a person's own individual personality, but it is also incredibly racist in certain aspects.

 

[Mamoon]

Indulging in whataboutery doesn't qualify as ''exploring those reason''. I could name 50 players from the 1990s to 2000s or the last 15-20 years that were even bigger failures for England than the names you mentioned. Did you take into account their ethnicity?

This is the problem with people who peddle stereotypes. They think they know how a certain group of people act or behave. Nevermind the fact that it is an insulting notion to begin with that disregards a person's own individual personality, but it is also incredibly racist in certain aspects.

Sure, if you complain about stereotyping and engage in virtue-signaling it would make me look like a racist.

I am fine with that, but that still does not explain why almost 99% of British Asian players have proved to be failures, and the biggest success story (Nasser Hussain) was half-white.

Surely it is more than just a coincidence and people know it as well. Unfortunately, they are too scared to talk about because they are afraid of being labeled racist, and that is what is wrong with the world today.

As I said earlier, the insecurity of losing their place in the team and getting shafted for some white player is probably the major reason why British Asian players have not delivered on their potential.

When almost 99% of the population in a sample produce similar results, it cannot be a coincidence.

You could name 50+ white players since the 90s who have failed and I can do the same as well. However, the percentage of British Asian failures is certainly higher than the percentage of white failures.

Sure, you can make the argument that if the number of Asian players and white players level out, the percentage of failures would even out.

However, that is an assumption which is a little hard to believe when you look at the failure rate of Asian players based on around 20+ players over 3 decades.

If over the next 2-3 decades, almost every player coming through KP cricket proves to be a failure, it would be naive to brush it aside as a coincidence or to justify it by stating that players from Punjab and Sindh fail as well. When the percentage is so high it would be simply naive to not look into the underlying reasons.

As I said, people are too scared to call spade a spade because they are afraid of being labeled racists.

 

[Manunited18]

Matter of time before Haseeb gets back in the England test side, to big a talent not to, also the likes of Rory burns doesn't instill to much confidence for the England top order.