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Hashim Amla versus Virender Sehwag
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Amla by some considerable margin. Sehwag has No.8 like stats in Eng, NZ and SA.
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I would prefer watching Sehwag bat any day, any week, any year, any time because of sheer-entertainment he provides.
However, I will pick Amla between the two. An all-condition player and was highly impact player at its peak.
Sehwag is highly impactful too but his impact is limited to certain conditions.
However, I will pick Amla between the two. An all-condition player and was highly impact player at its peak.
Sehwag is highly impactful too but his impact is limited to certain conditions.
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Sehwag any day. Better average, infinitely superior strike rate. Any captain with a brain would prefer Sehwag. A Test player who averages almost 50 with a strike rate of 82 odd. Enough said!
Sehwag wasn't great in England, South Africa and New Zealand. While Amla has the spine of a jelly. Both have their weaknesses.
Sehwag wasn't great in England, South Africa and New Zealand. While Amla has the spine of a jelly. Both have their weaknesses.
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If match is played in Asia, Sehwag
Outside Asia, Amla
Outside Asia, Amla
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On a flat pitch Sehwag. Pitches that favour the bowling, it's Amla. In this format, I'll go with Amla.
Even on a spinning track there is not better batsman than sehwag, Sehwag has also done well on bouncy tracks, only against swing amla can be considered better
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Don't make it look like Amla was some sort of a master of batting at tough pitches. If he was he wouldn't be averaging lower to Sehwag considering he too did feast on flat pitches and on poorer bowling line ups.
Yes, no doubt his temperament and technique overall was evidently more suitable to handle bowling on seaming tracks but then are we really going to ignore that Sehwag demonstrated unreal skill set against ATG level spinners on square turners? If we did, we'd be completely unfair.
I think the answer pretty much lies with how many experts and fans are likely to pick either of them in their favorite XIs now and in future and i feel Sehwag is more likely to make it than Amla who is already somewhat forgettable now that the stats aren't too great either. Sehwag with his heroics will stand the test of time and will be remembered for a long time as one of the greatest game changing batsmen of all time and arguably the most devastating player of spin bowling.
Yes, no doubt his temperament and technique overall was evidently more suitable to handle bowling on seaming tracks but then are we really going to ignore that Sehwag demonstrated unreal skill set against ATG level spinners on square turners? If we did, we'd be completely unfair.
I think the answer pretty much lies with how many experts and fans are likely to pick either of them in their favorite XIs now and in future and i feel Sehwag is more likely to make it than Amla who is already somewhat forgettable now that the stats aren't too great either. Sehwag with his heroics will stand the test of time and will be remembered for a long time as one of the greatest game changing batsmen of all time and arguably the most devastating player of spin bowling.
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Your talking as if Amla is some rubbish player of spin. He's done well in India too in ODIs and tests.
Sehwag is the greatest player of spin of all time, every player dwarfs in front of sehwag in terms of spin playing abilities, the dude scored a double century on a rank turner in galle against murali and mendis while amla was exposed on rank turners last time he played in India, I wouldn't even pick sachin over sehwag on spinning tracks forget about amla
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Lol exposed on rank turners? Go look at Amla at his peak versus spin. Sehwag is brilliant versus spin but don't downplay Amlas ability versus spin. Furthmore the gap between the 2 players ability to combat swing and seam is bigger than the gap between the 2 when it comes to spin.
No one's downplaying amla's spin playing ability, Sehwag was a GOAT when it comes to playing spin while amla was a good player of spin but couldn't put bat to ball on rank turners, sehwag on the other hand blasted a double century at a strike rate around 80 on a rank freaking turner, the gap is big, doesn't mean amla was a bad player of spin but sehwag was so so much better
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The question worth pondering is whether Sehwag is worth more than his average?
I would also ask the same question for Amla?
As a pure batsman, Amla is the better bat. But one of the reasons, people have Sehwag more often in their XI than Amla because there have been many batsmen like Amla, but very few like Sehwag.
Does that make Sehwag the overall better package than Amla?
I would also ask the same question for Amla?
As a pure batsman, Amla is the better bat. But one of the reasons, people have Sehwag more often in their XI than Amla because there have been many batsmen like Amla, but very few like Sehwag.
Does that make Sehwag the overall better package than Amla?
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Amla was better versus seam and swing. Scoring in spin friendly conditions for a non Asian batsmen is a sign of a quality player. Amla has more brilliant knocks against spin them Sehwag does versus seam and swing.
Amla is the better test batsmen imo but you are free to your opinion.
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Sehwag will have a better legacy. He will undisputedly be in any ATG XI if a match is played in Asia. His impact in Asia is beyond measure.
With that being said, I loathe him as a person. But being unbiased to him here.
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In an ATG test XI, someone like Sehwag will find a place ahead of Virat Kohli. However, there is no doubt that Kohli will surpass him by quite a margin as far as test batsmen is concerned. Hence, choosing a team for XI is not a good factor for rating players.
As far as current comparison is concerned, Amla wins for me easily. Amla is 34 now and hence is past his peak which is why his average will go down. Sehwag was past his peak at 33 only when he had a tailender stat vs England and Australia away.
While Sehwag at its peak was one of the devastating batsmen to have played the game but he had his limitations to certain conditions, Amla, on other hand, at its peak was highly impactful everywhere and has played standout performances in a complete series in Australia, England and India and also played a major factor in win in SL.
Both were past their peak at 33 and this is why we cant put Amla's average as a factor to rate Sehwag higher to him. As for Strike rate, if we use the same logic then the difference between strike rates of David Warner and AN Cook is same as between these two but that doesn't make the former better than latter.
We should not forget the fact that Sehwag was in very poor form which is why he was dropped out of team at age of 33 while Amla has earned the respect to call it off when he wants.
The only factor that goes against Amla was that he lost his peak at early 30s only but same was the case with Sehwag also.
As far as current comparison is concerned, Amla wins for me easily. Amla is 34 now and hence is past his peak which is why his average will go down. Sehwag was past his peak at 33 only when he had a tailender stat vs England and Australia away.
While Sehwag at its peak was one of the devastating batsmen to have played the game but he had his limitations to certain conditions, Amla, on other hand, at its peak was highly impactful everywhere and has played standout performances in a complete series in Australia, England and India and also played a major factor in win in SL.
Both were past their peak at 33 and this is why we cant put Amla's average as a factor to rate Sehwag higher to him. As for Strike rate, if we use the same logic then the difference between strike rates of David Warner and AN Cook is same as between these two but that doesn't make the former better than latter.
We should not forget the fact that Sehwag was in very poor form which is why he was dropped out of team at age of 33 while Amla has earned the respect to call it off when he wants.
The only factor that goes against Amla was that he lost his peak at early 30s only but same was the case with Sehwag also.
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Lol what nonsense, Amla has been averaging less than 40 for the last 3-4 years and he has been in terrible terrible form, the only reason he still gets to play for south africa is due to the quota system
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He has been past his prime since 2015. At that time, he was 32. Currently he is 35.
Sehwag was past his prime in 2011. At that time, he was 33 and he got dropped when he was 35. So, Sehwag doesnt get any bigger edge for lasting his form for longer time compared to Amla.
LMAO what? Amla is probably one of the best non Asian players of spin ever. Probably just behind Lara.
One should always make the habit of reading the full convo and understand the context before making stupid remarks, I already stated many times that amla is a very good player of spin, don't know why you chose to bother me with this useless post
BTW King kohli is the one true king
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Amla is more balanced player and I will take him.
One should always make the habit of reading the full convo and understand the context before making stupid remarks, I already stated many times that amla is a very good player of spin, don't know why you chose to bother me with this useless post
BTW King kohli is the one true king
And how would i know that you've said it many times that Amla is a good player of spin?
Oh and it's virat kohli and not king kohli.
You would know if you read the whole thread with open eyes and read my all of my comments on this thread.
Also it's King Kohli, the one true king to rule them all
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There are many players like Amla but you cannot find many players like Viru.
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Sometimes these comparisons make me laugh.
Shehwag against spin is 10 times better player than Amla could ever be. A goat against spin.
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Amla is a better test batsman as he is a batsman for all conditions. Sehwag was the biggest match winner in Asia but outside his comfort zone, he was mediocre.
Amla batted in far tougher batting conditions too for the most part of his career. More than half of Sehwag's career was built on dead tracks.
Amla batted in far tougher batting conditions too for the most part of his career. More than half of Sehwag's career was built on dead tracks.
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Sehwag on flat tracks,Amla everywhere else.
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Ridiculous comparison. Sehwag any day!
Not only won India countless games but put fear into opposition. Birthed the new Indian attitude together with Ganguly.
Amla is a solid bat, but so is Babar Azam
Not only won India countless games but put fear into opposition. Birthed the new Indian attitude together with Ganguly.
Amla is a solid bat, but so is Babar Azam
You would play amla instead of sehwag on a rank turner?
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No.Sehwag on a turner.Amla has a good record against spin though.
I won't say Sehwag mediocre outside his comfort zone. Yes, he had issues against swing but still he has 2 hundreds on some very green pitches in New Zealand, a hundred on test debut against a very good South African attack and a test hundred in England.
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Sehwag is not a flat pitch bully though. He's arguably the GoAT batsman on spinning pitches, especially rank turners. He humbled the likes of Murali, Mendis, Kaneria and even his own countrymen like Ashwin and Harbhajan. Ashwin is literally scarred by Sehwag. Sehwag explicitly told him once he doesn't view spinners as bowlers.
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Probably Sehwag, sometimes away from the stats you have to remember cricket is about entertainment and Sehwag was as swasbuckling as they come.
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What is the opinion of PP'ers now? Who was better? Amla finished his career at an average of 46.64 at an SR of 49.97, while Sehwag ended his career at an average of 49.34 at an SR of 82.23
I'd pick Sehwag anyday.
I'd pick Sehwag anyday.
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I"ll go with Amla.
The last phase of his career is responsible for that 46 average but still at his prime he was an all conditions player unlike Sehwag.
The last phase of his career is responsible for that 46 average but still at his prime he was an all conditions player unlike Sehwag.
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Sehwag. India’s greatest match winner.
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Hashim Amla,He almost took away the 2010 test series in India.
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Both are different kinds of players. Hard to compare them. If you need a subcontinent opener, Sehwag is up there with the best while if you need one for South Africa, England or New Zealand, Amla hands down. He is a brilliant player of swing bowling.
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If you look at it that way then yes, Sehwag better than Amla.
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Poor phases are part of batting, if you play 70/80 tests then you will obviously have to face it. Sehwag also faced it.
If Amla was better then over a career spanning a decade, his numbers would have been better but they are miles behind
Forget Amla, how many test players who have played a minimum of 25 tests, have a average of ~ 50 and a strike rate of ~ 80.
It's not normal, for that reason alone, Viru is in a league of his own, "Match winning batsman".
So you also rate David Warner better than Alastair Cook and Hashim Amla?
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I don't know the numbers / # of test matches etc....
But Viru was a phenomenal opener, a strike rate of 80 is no joke... He was poor in England / SA though
His average is ~ 90 against Pak, it's monstrous...
A SR of 73 is not far behind 80 in tests.
David Warner
Avg- 48
SR- 73
Alastair Cook
Avg- 46
SR- 46
Hashim Amla
Avg- 46
SR- 50
Virender Sehwag
Avg- 49
SR- 80
Going by your logic, Warner> Amla & Cook.
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Yes, can you please add number of test matches as well....
If these are the stats at the end of their careers, with roughly similar # test matches then Warner would be better
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Sehwag is better on flat tracks.
Amla is better on SENA pitches.
Amla is better on SENA pitches.
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This. Sehwag was a monster on wickets without movement.
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In Eng and SA, Amla will be better
In Aus / NZ, it will be v v close
Rest of the world, Sehwag is better than all...
Overall, if one had to pick only one, I would go with Sehwag
Warner has already played 84 tests and Sehwag has 104 tests. Longevity is hardly a debate here.
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I meant no. of tests for Cook / warner since you introduced that comparison.
So warner has 84, and cook will have some 140 odd ( not sure though)
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Amla was a more complete batsman and ended up with a better record in LOI but Sehwag was comfortably more memorable. He revolutionized the way of opening in tests despite not even being an opener in domestic. No, I do not care how much he averages in England or South Africa. He was box office especially in tests.
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