Have India lost home advantage due to the IPL?

[saeed5646]

i have notice this in the current test series between Aus and India and same

in the t20 worldcup semifinal last year the way westindies were playing the

indian spinner they knew were are spinner going to bowl which is due to

playing number of matches in ipl for some Or different team.The same case

is Smith he was playing all the matches in ipl last year and his game against

spin is massively improve after ipl .These are not good signs for india

.Thoughts??

 

[joly]

60% advantage was lost but it was lost 7-8 years ago itself. You gotta admit Indian batsmen have played the penalty of taking opposition bowling too lightly in all the 3 innings. Aus after that batted sensibly helped by some luck in umpiring and missed chances by Indian fielders overall AUS has looked really impressive, home advantage was lost years ago, I don't think it has any effect now. Indians have played poorly and Aus have stuck it out so congratulations to them

 

[Varun]

Indeed, one of the several consequences of having that 2-month trashfest every year.

 

[Junaids]

But it's a very different form of the game. All that has been lost is the aura of a very different country.

The real problem here is what we already knew.

Australia, England, South Africa, India, Pakistan and New Zealand are 6 teams of almost identical Test strength, and fairly mediocre at that. If one team is tired or out of form or poorly selected - like Australia in the first two home Tests v South Africa - any other team can beat them.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Please do not talk negative about IPL. IPL gave recognition to ashwin and jadeja which domestic cricket in India couldn't. You have to respect IPL for that. We have also unearthed real gems like Pandya because of IPL.

 

[MenInG]

Why can't we say that Australia are playing better than India at the moment?

 

[Adil_94]

maybe it has reduced the mystery of some of the Indian spinners but in IPL they get bhattas not turners so it still requires skill to do well and its a lot diff playing T20 league tham a Test match. You have a lot of NZers and Saffers playing in IPL yet they were woeful in their Test tours of India. So i think its more to do with the Aussies being driven and determined to stop their losing streak in Asia theyve prepared rigorously for this series and dont have the mentality oh no its turners weve lost already they are willing to dig in on a tough track rather than hoping for the best like previous Aussie teams have done in India. Its the mentality and mindset change thats the biggest difference for me not IPL.

 

[Zak_Fan]

India's Test record at home since IPL suggests otherwise. Australia has outplayed India in this series so far, so credit to them.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Simple fact checking can tell you what the answer to this question is and the answer is NO in tests.

But hey why let truth get in the way of a good narrative?

Indian batsmen suck against quality spin.

Our main spinner in this series has been sucking.

This is why we are losing.

Not because of IPL shypl.

 

[joly]

Why can't we say that Australia are playing better than India at the moment?

Isn't congratulating them means just that?

 

[King Kong]

In a nutshell, NO. Look at India's record against touring teams since IPL. especially against Australia as they are the ones who have played most in the IPL. There lies the answer and completely debunks this post. Australia just came out with fully prepared and are playing as if they have a point to prove after a series of disastrous tour of Asia while India was a little complacent in the last match, but no excuses if they lose this one.

Oh...there has already been IPL bashing in this thread. Stupidity has no limits.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

In a nutshell, NO. Look at India's record against touring teams since IPL. especially against Australia as they are the ones who have played most in the IPL. There lies the answer and completely debunks this post. Australia just came out with fully prepared and are playing as if they have a point to prove after a series of disastrous tour of Asia while India was a little complacent in the last match, but no excuses if they lose this one.

Oh...there has already been IPL bashing in this thread. Stupidity has no limits.

People thought we were arrogant cos we lost the match.

I kinda felt that was a convenient answer.

The reason we are losing is because of:

1. Poor planning
2. Fatigue (a bit)
3. Lack of application
4. Bad technique
5. Passengers, inconsistent players in the team

Poor planning in a way can be called as a bit of arrogance.

 

[NauV]

Hold on a sec! From what I know, India lost their first test match in 4 years? 5 years? . . . We are way too quick to create threads aren't we?

 

[Hawkeye]

Looks like someone's bitter.

No, the league has only helped developed cricket and made them one of the biggest forces in cricket.

And tests are a different format played in different conditions.

 

[King Kong]

People thought we were arrogant cos we lost the match.

I kinda felt that was a convenient answer.

The reason we are losing is because of:

1. Poor planning
2. Fatigue (a bit)
3. Lack of application
4. Bad technique
5. Passengers, inconsistent players in the team

Poor planning in a way can be called as a bit of arrogance.

Along with that, being hell bent on 5-bowler strategy also played some role. It was incompetence on the part of management to go with 5 bowlers on a rank turner. Fielding was also one of the major reasons. Were awful against England with dropped catches match after match, but got away with it due to our batsmen outscoring whatever they scored. That got exposed against Australia in the first test.

Don't think there are any passengers in the team. Maybe Rahane, who is still playing off his performances in the overseas. But I feel he deserves few more chances.

 

[Slog]

Simple fact checking can tell you what the answer to this question is and the answer is NO in tests.

But hey why let truth get in the way of a good narrative?

Indian batsmen suck against quality spin.

Our main spinner in this series has been sucking.

This is why we are losing.

Not because of IPL shypl.

Lol if you look at India post England series in 2012, their home record is arguably better than their 90s home record

 

[Hasan123]

Nothing to do with the IPL.

 

[Convict]

Renshaw has been our most consistent batsman and has never played IPL.

O'Keefe and Lyon wouldn't have played any IPL either.

 

[Slog]

Renshaw has been our most consistent batsman and has never played IPL.

O'Keefe and Lyon wouldn't have played any IPL either.

lol its a non starter, this argument

aus wouldnt have lost 4-0 in 2013 if this was the case, as that side was actually almost regularly in india every year

the current side not really.

 

[Bilal7]

No. The pitches they would encounter in the IPL and vastly different than Indian test pitches.

 

[spade]

t20s aren't comparable to test matches so there is absolutely no loss of home advantage. Most of our batsman are ordinary against quality spin and when pitches are an absolute farce where even a part timer can extract spin and bounce, the quality of cricket sharply plummets and becomes a lottery. Credit to the Aussies to play extraordinarily well and befuddling many, including me.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Aussies deserve it , imo.
Any team that goes out of their way for a pre-series training camp in the UAE to prepare for a test series deserves the success they get. If I remember right they spent three weeks in SL too before the 3 test series there although the results didn't go their way.
I can't imagine any other international team doing this. Nothing to do with the IPL btw.

 

[BD-fan]

No.
As most have already said;
Pitches are different, format is different, and Renshaw, Lyon, O'keefe - The star performers so far, didn't play IPL.

 

[Ab Fan]

Nothing to do with IPL..

 

[English August]

Indeed, one of the several consequences of having that 2-month trashfest every year.

Convict in post #18 well and truly destroys your line of argument.

The real consequence of IPL is that up-and-coming Indian cricketers feel totally comfortable playing international cricket from day 1, because they have already played with the likes of ABDV, Kevin Peterson, Steve Smith well before making their international debuts.

The confidence and swag someone like Jadeja shows is 100% due to IPL.

IPL has a lot of upside and *no* downside.

 

[yasir]

This is Rubish thread, IPL is the best thing ever happened to Indian cricket, in 100 years, maybe since Lagan . IPL could become NBA in next decade or two, if economy of India holds...I don't know what you are smoking