Have you Performed Hajj or Umrah?

[Bewal Express]

I am glad you self-reduced billions to mere millions.

Reality is finally kicking in. Soon it will be in thousands.

It's a religion is regression. Rightfully so.

Which religion is in regression?

 

[Bewal Express]

Because it is a money-making, ponzi scheme.

Tickets to heaven in exchange for worldly money.

And object worship.

Are you a kaffir? A Christian? A Hindu? What are you? Or just bitter

 

[LordJames]

Are you a kaffir? A Christian? A Hindu? What are you? Or just bitter

@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam

1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that

I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"

 

[Bewal Express]

@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam

1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that

I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"

What is it about these ex Muslims that they are always look for validation. If you have left Islam, well you have made your bed, lie in it.

 

[Bewal Express]

@Farhan The Man is bitter and depressed.

He apparently spent "11 years in a Madrasah", got disillusioned and left Islam

1. He doesn't know anything which even the 1st year of a Madrsah student would know
2. His relationship with Islam is like an "ex", she has moved and on and doesn't care but lives rent free in his head
3. He is also bitter and disillusioned about his "11 years in a Madrasah" which provided him with such substandard education leading to an Academic incompetency resulting in his emotional trauma. I have suggested him to name his Madrasah so he can try to get a "refund" and others can avoid sending their kids there but he is too ashamed to do that

I am sympathetic and think that at least the poor guy should get his money back if not "11 years of time"

I thought he was some Hindutuva that is here to troll.

 

[LordJames]

I thought he was some Hindutuva that is here to troll.

Here are two links where "Ex-Muslims" who are Muftees and Hafiz join on a weekly basis

• In English, Islamic Lantern is a good channel
• If you’re fluent in Urdu, scholars like Qasier Ahmed Raja and Mufti Yasir have discussions into these issues.

Half the time, these "Muftees" and "Scholars" think that Maghrib is 4 Rakaat and whenever anyone wants to have a laugh in Urdu/English, feel free to listen to "Ex-Muslims"...

You will also hear from "Hindtuva" who are embarrassed to describe their religious preferences and hide behind "Atheism" or "Nothing" or "still researching" and then it goes downhill from there

Its good Saturday night entertainment

 

[Bewal Express]

Here are two links where "Ex-Muslims" who are Muftees and Hafiz join on a weekly basis

• In English, Islamic Lantern is a good channel
• If you’re fluent in Urdu, scholars like Qasier Ahmed Raja and Mufti Yasir have discussions into these issues.

Half the time, these "Muftees" and "Scholars" think that Maghrib is 4 Rakaat and whenever anyone wants to have a laugh in Urdu/English, feel free to listen to "Ex-Muslims"...

You will also hear from "Hindtuva" who are embarrassed to describe their religious preferences and hide behind "Atheism" or "Nothing" or "still researching" and then it goes downhill from there

Its good Saturday night entertainment

I never take these losers seriously. They have left and found nothing except anger towards the Muslims. They act as if they are jilted lovers, always looking to get some "revenge". They will never get closure on this earth and face the fire in the hereafter.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Which religion is in regression?

The one idolizing an object.

And deity reverence.

In addition to god worship.

 

[Bewal Express]

The one idolizing an object.

And deity reverence.

In addition to god worship.

It looks like statistics isn't your strong point. Why are ppl like you so bitter? Let us be us and you be you in with bitterness eating away at you.

 

[Farhan The Man]

It looks like statistics isn't your strong point.

Apparently falsification is yours though.

Do away with capital punishment for apostasy. And let true statistics emerge.

Net growth of "muslim" bucket is a regressive trend. Already evidenced by emptied mosques.

 

[Bewal Express]

Apparently falsification is yours though.

Do away with capital punishment for apostasy. And let true statistics emerge.

Net growth of "muslim" bucket is a regressive trend. Already evidenced by emptied mosques.

So you really think people are staying in Islam because of the fear of the apostasy punishment( which btw i don't agree with or is widely practiced). How do you explain the huge growth in the West? What are they fearing? I have seen some Iranians leave Islam but no one cares.
We have 1000s join Islam each year and more are joining daily.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Likewise zero cares for paedophiles, rapists, murderers in western jails converting to islam.

These are low hanging fruits. Remind me once technological advances are made by the converted, who are creme-dela-creme.

Quality over quantity. For context, there are 20bil rats as of today. Much more than followers of all-inclusive religions.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Hajj 2025: PM Shehbaz to request Saudi facilitation for 67,000 pilgrims

Prime Minister (PM) Shehbaz Sharif said that Saudi Arabia’s authorities would be approached and requested to facilitate 67,000 Pakistanis, whose participation in Hajj 2025 seems unlikely due to delays in agreements and payments to the Saudi government.

Chairing a meeting on the issue, the prime minister said that every possible effort would be made to resolve the issue and ensure the pilgrims’ journey to the holy sites.

Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Sardar Muhammad Yousaf, members of Senate’s Standing Committee on Religious Affairs, and the Hajj Organizers Association of Pakistan (HOAP) representatives also attended the meeting.

PM Shehbaz expressed his displeasure over the Hajj crisis and directed the authorities to take all possible steps to resolve the issue. He assured the delegation that he would take up the matter with Saudi authorities to obtain permission for the pilgrims under the private quota.

The prime minister expressed his distress over the issue, saying it was a matter of shame for them. He directed the authorities to contact Saudi officials to facilitate the pilgrims.

The delegation apprised the prime minister of the situation and requested his intervention to send the pilgrims to Hajj 2025.

Hajj 2025: PM Shehbaz to request Saudi facilitation for 67,000 pilgrims

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister (PM) Shehbaz Sharif said that Saudi Arabia’s authorities would be approached and requested to facilitate 67,000 Pakistanis,

arynews.tv

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Pakistan requests Saudi nod for 67,000 pilgrims to perform Hajj 2025

The Ministry of Religious Affairs once again approached Saudi authorities to permit Hajj 2025 for pilgrims who may miss the pilgrimage due to delays in agreements and payments to the Saudi government, making a final appeal on their behalf.

This effort serves as a last opportunity to ensure Hajj participation for 67,000 Pakistani pilgrims, with a commitment to adhere strictly to future deadlines and regulations.

In the appeal written in both English and Urdu, it has been highlighted that many pilgrims are old, and this would perhaps be their last chance to accomplish their religious responsibility.

These pilgrims were earlier excluded due to delays and mismanagement by private tour operators, which caused their removal from the Hajj 2025 measures.

As per reports, Saudi Arabia has recently approved an additional 2,078 Pakistani pilgrims cleared to perform Hajj 2025, diminishing the number of impacted almost 65,000.

Pakistan requests Saudi nod for 67,000 pilgrims to perform Hajj 2025

The Ministry of Religious Affairs once again approached Saudi authorities to permit Hajj 2025 for pilgrims who may miss the pilgrimage due to delays in

arynews.tv

 

[Farhan The Man]

In the appeal written in both English and Urdu, it has been highlighted that many pilgrims are old, and this would perhaps be their last chance to accomplish their religious responsibility.

Oh boy.

This is embarrassing.

You don't have to. Beg.

 

[BouncerGuy]

38,229 Pakistani Haj pilgrims under govt scheme landed in Saudi Arabia so far

The Pakistan Haj Mission (PHM) has welcomed 38,229 pilgrims in Saudi Arabia (Madina and Makkah) under the government scheme since the start of the month-long pre-Haj flight operation on April 29.

These pilgrims arrived via 143 flights under the government scheme, while 3,440 more intending pilgrims through 13 flights will reach the holy land today, said Muhammad Umar Butt, a spokesman for the Ministry of Religious Affairs.

Sharing the details with APP, he said that there are five scheduled flights from Lahore, four from Karachi, three from Islamabad and one from Multan today.

This year, the PHM will host over 88,380 pilgrims under the government scheme and more than 23,000 under the private scheme.

He said that as possession of the Nusuk Card is a mandatory requirement for entering Haram Sharif, the pilgrims are being given these through Tawafa Company Al-Rajhi, responsible for facilitating Pakistani pilgrims during Haj, soon after their arrival.

The PHM is utilising Pak Haj App, two toll-free helplines 8002450028 and 8002450029 and WhatsApp numbers (+923700037425 and +923700037427 for prompt resolution of the pilgrims’ complaints.

Additionally, the spokesman said two central hospitals (one each at Makkah and Madina) and 11 dispensaries (nine in Makkah and two in Madina) are providing medical facilities to pilgrims, with 303 doctors and medical staff on duty.

The PHM’s main hospitals are equipped with modern facilities, including ambulances, laboratories, X-ray machines, ultrasound machines, ECG machines, minor operating theatres and separate wards for men and women and isolation wards.

DAWN NEWS

 

[Bhaijaan]

Private Hajj organizers reveal they have Rs200 billion stuck in Saudi Arabia

Members of the Hajj & Umrah Organisers Association Pakistan have made a startling revelation in the ongoing Hajj controversy — potentially involving around 67,000 intending pilgrims who have not been issued Saudi visas and risk not only missing the Hajj but also losing money.

During a press conference in Peshawar, Kamran Zaib, a representative of the organisers, disclosed that Hajj organizers had transferred over 2.5 billion Saudi Riyal (SAR) to Saudi Arabia.

Earlier, it was reported that SAR480 million (PKR36 billion) collected from intending pilgrims had been transferred to Saudi Arabia and paid for various service including hotels.

However, Kamran Zaib revealed that the amount stood at SAR2.67 billion (nearly PKRs200 billion) and included money from both intending pilgrims and the organizers. Some of the organizers sent money to Saudi Arabia believing they would collect it from the pilgrims later, he said.

Kamran Zaib also said money collected from overseas Pakistanis, who formed 30 percent of the nearly 89,000 pilgrims, also included in the amount.

Kamran Zaib said Rs220 million had been paid in advance tax to the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), and another Rs1.58 billion had been transferred to the Ministry of Religious Affairs. He stressed that despite meeting all official requirements, the government has failed to provide any clear process for the return of collected funds.

Funds accepted beyond deadline, questions raised
Zaib further stated that even after the February 14 deadline, payments continued to be accepted. “If the deadline had passed, why were funds still being collected?” he questioned.

Private Hajj organizers reveal they have Rs200 billion stuck in Saudi Arabia

The amount include money from intending pilgrim, including overseas Pakistanis

english.aaj.tv

Sounds like a massive scam

 

[The_KING]

What is it about these ex Muslims that they are always look for validation. If you have left Islam, well you have made your bed, lie in it.

Ever heard of an ex-Christian or ex Jew? No, because these ex Muslims have to always announce to the world that they are ex Muslims. Why? Because they are pathetic attention seekers and the fact that they are an ex Muslim is their identity.

 

[Bewal Express]

Ever heard of an ex-Christian or ex Jew? No, because these ex Muslims have to always announce to the world that they are ex Muslims. Why? Because they are pathetic attention seekers and the fact that they are an ex Muslim is their identity.

Absolutely. These guys are totally lost in their bitterness and misery. Move on, no one cares at your personal angst and regret.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Pakistan requests Saudi nod for 67,000 pilgrims to perform Hajj 2025

The appeal is rejected.

On financial grounds.

No reimbursements either.

 

[LordJames]

The ability to perform Hajj or Umrah is ultimately a matter of divine providence—just as being prevented from it is also by divine will. As human beings, we often only grasp the outward causes—illness, financial constraints, visa issues, quotas—but these are merely the visible layers. In reality, those who are meant to make the journey will do so, and those who are not, will not.

These are spiritual matters, and once spirituality is removed from the equation, the deeper wisdom behind them becomes inaccessible. It’s almost comical—though truly tragic—to see individuals like @Farhan The Man , who claim to have left Islam after "11 years of Madrasah education," still deeply entangled in its discourse. For someone who claims to have moved on, Islam seems to live rent-free in his mind.

 

[BouncerGuy]

These guys are the chosen ones.

Plane could not leave without him

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927325941992173959

 

[Farhan The Man]

These guys are the chosen ones.

Plane could not leave without him

Is that your definition of a miracle?

Surely, he'd be better served spending hard earned money on physical upkeep instead.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Is that your definition of a miracle?

Surely, he'd be better served spending hard earned money on physical upkeep instead.

An atheist will never be able to feel the happiness of performing Hajj. Move on

 

[Bewal Express]

An amazing achievement from Zubaida and Haroon and their engineers and workers. May Allah grant both Jannat. Ameen

 

[Bewal Express]

When the call comes there is no force on this earth that can stop you going. ALLAH O AKBAR

 

[Ball Blazer]

Saudi govt call centre now offering support in Urdu, other languages for Hajj pilgrims​

The Saudi government on Wednesday announced that its 937 Health Call Centre was now offering multilingual support to Haj pilgrims around the clock, including in Urdu.

Haj, one of the fundamental pillars of Islam, is performed each year by millions of Muslims worldwide. Pakistan receives one of the highest Haj quotas from Saudi Arabia.

According to a press release from the Saudi Embassy, the call centre “plays a vital role in the Kingdom’s healthcare response during Haj.”

“The centre is designed to enhance access to health services, offer medical guidance, and ensure [a] timely response to emergencies,” the press release read.

Source:

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF MOCKING EACH OTHER'S RELIGIONS

 

[The_KING]

I performed Umrah once and loved it. InshaAllah I am hoping to perform Hajj in the next couple of years.

 

[sweep_shot]

I performed Umrah once and loved it. InshaAllah I am hoping to perform Hajj in the next couple of years.

Ma sha Allah.

May you fulfill Hajj. I am also saving up for Hajj currently.

 

[The_KING]

Ma sha Allah.

May you fulfill Hajj. I am also saving up for Hajj currently.

Thanks bro.

InshaAllah, you will perform Hajj very soon.

 

[Farhan The Man]

The ability to perform Hajj or Umrah is ultimately a matter of divine providence—just as being prevented from it is also by divine will.

Who knew saudi immigration are now executors of divine will.

For able-bodied pakistani hajies. Who paid in full. Yet denied entry to "heaven".

That is next level authority.