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"Haven't seen any improvement in Pakistani batsmen with Grant Flower as batting coach": Aamir Sohail

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"Haven't seen any improvement in Pakistani batsmen with Grant Flower as batting coach": Aamir Sohail

In his latest blog for PakPassion.net, Aamir Sohail writes about Shan Masood's progress as a top-quality batsman, recent below par performances of Imam-ul-Haq and Fakhar Zaman, Babar Azam's positive approach to batting, why the Pakistan coaching staff should be held accountable for the failings of the batsmen and looks forward to the 5-match ODI series between South Africa and Pakistan.


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Shan Masood was better prepared for this series than many other in his team

To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised to see Shan Masood perform so well in the Test series against South Africa. What was really impressive from Shan was the amount of work he had put in which has really helped him improve his technique as we saw in all three matches that he played in the Test series. It was obvious to me that he was better prepared for this series than many others and he knew exactly what he had to do and that is why he kept on meeting success in South Africa and it's quite possible that staying away from some of Pakistan's coaches really helped his cause.

Shan was managing the bounce really well against some quality bowling, and seemed to have overcome a problem of his where he would be nicking the ball, especially off the back-foot to the slips or the wicket-keeper. Instead we saw an assured Shan at the crease who knew where his off-stump was and also when best to leave the ball instead of fishing at it. He also seemed happier to score on the onside with an occasional punch through the covers, a cut shot or a straight drive which to me is a great sign of better things from him in the future.


Imam-ul-Haq has the right temperament for the job

One must recognize the fact that nowadays the first tour of South Africa or Australia is a difficult one for any player who is going there from the sub-continent. The tour of West Indies in the old days used to present similar challenges. But the fact is that players with good technique are always successful in such conditions, especially in their first tours. From what I saw of Imam-ul-Haq, he was off-balance when defending the ball and almost used to walk into that shot. His back-lift and manner in which he defends deliveries are all shortcomings which should have been spotted by our coaches. In his defence, I would say that Imam was simply not given the right information and was not worked with by the coaches. He was therefore not able to overcome his deficiencies and those weaknesses in his batting were exposed by the opposition. Let’s be honest and admit that Imam does have the right temperament for the job and does have the ability to stick it out and stay there, but he really needs to improve his technique.


Grant Flower has been unable to fix the defensive techniques of Pakistan batsmen

Grant Flower’s presence and vast experience as batting coach in the Pakistan set-up should have been reflected in better performances of the players. Unfortunately, I haven't seen that happening even though he has been with the Pakistan side for a long time now. I have not seen any improvement in the Pakistani batsmen with Grant Flower as batting coach. What we should be seeing improving among our players is the technique and the basics of the game with his guidance but that has not been the case and is a cause of concern for me. Take the example of Azhar Ali who seems to be getting out in the same manner every time. Why has he not been shown how to overcome his problems and given the right guidance by the coaching staff? This is very disappointing. Look, I am not asking Grant Flower to teach our players to hit big sixes or to crack 20-ball fifties but what we do want from him is to improve the defensive techniques of our batsmen. As a player, Grant Flower knew how to leave the ball and to occupy the crease, but we did not see that knowledge reflected in the performances of our batsmen.


Fakhar Zaman's weaknesses should have been ironed out before the tour of South Africa

Fakhar seems to know only one way to bat which is to take on the bowlers. There are certain strokes he plays very regularly which aren’t that effective and present a huge peril when played in South African conditions. I feel that more than Fakhar, it’s the selectors who should have known about his limitations and also the coaches should have recognized these issues. If Fakhar was a must for this tour, then they should have worked with him on his technical deficiencies and helped him out and his weaknesses should have been ironed out before the tour of South Africa. It’s up to Fakhar now to work hard and come back stronger than before but it really is dependent upon the coaches to guide him and to give him the right information. I feel that he has not been told about defects in his batting as yet and has not been given the solutions to those issues.


Decisions on team combinations during the tour were made in panic

We seemed to have chosen our teams based on reputation during this series and it seems that not much thought was given to who were actually the best players for the matches. When this did not work out and we were defeated in the first Test, we panicked and made changes to the team which caused us further problems and that continued to the end of the series.


Yasir Shah was not utilized correctly

If Yasir Shah was to be played in the Test series in South Africa, then the team management should have known how best to utilize him. We all know that Yasir has struggled in Australia and in away conditions in general, so why has he not been spoken to and asked to fix his issues? He has over 200 Test match wickets and so is not lacking in skills or talent. A change in approach was needed in South Africa for Yasir to be successful. In those conditions, you need to bowl with a different line, length and angle. But he wasn’t guided properly and it seemed that he did not know about what the best way to bowl on such surfaces was, and he was left to his own devices on this tour. He was probably asked to do what he could do, and no real plan seemed to have been provided to him. I am not saying that Shadab Khan should have been preferred over Yasir Shah, however, we all saw that Shadab got more success than Yasir and the reason for that was he was bowling with the right speed and attacking the stumps, and also managed to get more turn than Yasir. Watching Shadab bowl so well, I am guessing that the Pakistan coaches must have been ruing the fact that they didn’t ask Yasir Shah to bowl differently as well.


Babar Azam's positive intent at the crease was an example for all Pakistan batsmen

Make no mistake that Babar Azam for all his talent has some technical deficiencies. However, what he showed all of us was his positive intent and that was great to see regardless of the fact that he came into bat at times when the ball was old and wasn’t doing that much. In the back of his mind, Babar knew that the bowler would eventually bowl that unplayable delivery to him at any time given the sort of pitches the matches were being played on. But his philosophy seemed to be that he would get to the bowler before he got to him and take the game to the opposition and I am glad that this style of play worked for him. What Babar showed to all of us was that the fact that a good attitude can bring about some huge benefits for himself and his team. Babar Azam's positive intent at the crease was an example for all other Pakistan batsmen to follow.


Calls to drop Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are not justified

There has been a lot of criticism regarding Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq and their place in the team is now being questioned. My view is that the best players in the world go through bad times and struggle from series to series, but you have to stick with your experienced players. Look at the case of Hashim Amla who has been playing for a longer period of time than say, Azhar Ali. He has been struggling as of late, but he was still favoured by the selectors due to his immense experience as they knew that he was only one good innings away from regaining his form. So, he was given the backing and he worked hard and justified the vote of confidence in his abilities by South Africa coach Ottis Gibson. The coach was confident that despite Amla’s below par form, they would work with him and hopefully he would come good, and that is what happened as we saw in the series. So, let’s not talk about dropping such good players and if you do wish to drop them, think about the options you have to replace them and you will find we don't have many. Also, with the fast approaching World Cup in England, I believe we should not talk too much of large-scale changes as teams thrive on confidence and stability and now would not be a time for upheavals.


Coaches need to be held accountable for Pakistan's recent performances in Tests

If there is a change required, it needs to be done in the way work is being done with our players within the Pakistan team. What we need to do is to ask the coaches about their role and also question the think-tank about their roles. Were they not aware that Pakistan would be touring South Africa and that the batsmen we have at our disposal needed to improve their technique to perform away from home? This appraisal exercise involving coaches, selectors and players must take place in private instead of making it a big public show of things as it seemed from some recent news reports. We need to have this conversation behind closed doors so that an effective strategy can be chalked out without pressure from the outside. I am not asking for anyone to be fired or sacked but questions should be asked and the coaches need to be held accountable for Pakistan's recent performances in Tests. If the coaches are to be retained, they need to raise their game and I will repeat again that throughout the Test series, we did not see any positive influence of Grant Flower which is very disappointing.


Pakistan players have to rise up and take the game to the opposition in the ODI series

For Pakistan to do well in this series, they will need to aim to score at the least 250 or above. I said something similar before the start of the Test series as well that whoever scores close to 300 runs consistently would win the series and that turned out to be true. The Pakistan side should not be thinking about scoring 300s in ODIs but instead, should be aiming for 250 and then hope to defend them during this ODI series through some good bowling. One must accept that the Pakistan batsmen would be slightly demoralized from their performances in the Test series, but this is the time for the players to show some character. Yes, one can have failure once in a while, but one cannot take that to the next game or series as this is part and parcel of the game. Pakistan players have to rise up and take the game to the opposition.
 
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Good interview. Amir sohail needs to be brought back to the team think tank.
 
Good interview. Amir sohail needs to be brought back to the team think tank.

What totally the opposite, he is just blaming the coaches.
Does Azhar Ali really need to be coached about how to play the short ball?
Also trying to score 250 in an odi ( where 400s have been scored) do u know what that means?. He is saying be 35-0 after 10 and then 170-3 after 40 and try and get to 250 in the last ten.
That formula is at least 15 years old!!
 
Babar has improved. He's able to handle bounce now. Azhar had his best years under him. He's batting at the wrong spot. Asad is a mental midget but even he scored overseas to his capacity under him. Shadab scored three 50s in England. Fakhar's technique has improved leaps and bounds since he came in, he's just not a test opener.
 
Pakistani batsmen are here to blame for... they show no confidence when they go out to bat. remember net sessions are totally different then when u r in the middle. Pakistani batsmen just behave like a scared deer in the spotlight. They usually play a rash shot when things starts to go tough and get out. Grant flower can only help to a certain extent. what can he do if 90 percent of the team is playing for a spot in the team.
 
This guy is not any better than Mohsin Khan. Blame as usual foreign coaches but never admitted our so-called seniors' fault. IK has lots of job to do.
 
Flower was at best an average batsman himself. Iur batsmen a better teacher like him. Try Viv Richards.
 
Babar has improved. He's able to handle bounce now. Azhar had his best years under him. He's batting at the wrong spot. Asad is a mental midget but even he scored overseas to his capacity under him. Shadab scored three 50s in England. Fakhar's technique has improved leaps and bounds since he came in, he's just not a test opener.

Azhar Ali got bounced out by Jacques Kallis on the 2013 SA tour as well, he has always been a garbage limited batsman.
 
All I see is him just pointing out the fact that batsmen have technical deficiencies which need to be fixed by the coach. But what are those deficiencies? Especially babars deficiency? I would really like to know.
 
Azhar Ali got bounced out by Jacques Kallis on the 2013 SA tour as well, he has always been a garbage limited batsman.

Azhar has never been a great player of bounce. However, he's capable of riding out these testing periods without scoring. But if you ask him to bat in positions where scoring is required to keep the gaming, he will falter because he's batting out of his bubble. That's why he had his peak as an opener and he was able to score so heavily in Australia.
 
What totally the opposite, he is just blaming the coaches.
Does Azhar Ali really need to be coached about how to play the short ball?
Also trying to score 250 in an odi ( where 400s have been scored) do u know what that means?. He is saying be 35-0 after 10 and then 170-3 after 40 and try and get to 250 in the last ten.
That formula is at least 15 years old!!

His point is simple, if your best and most experienced batsman is getting out caught behind the stumps so many times then he needs to be coached or helped. He is not talking about teaching him to score runs.
 
Azhar has never been a great player of bounce. However, he's capable of riding out these testing periods without scoring. But if you ask him to bat in positions where scoring is required to keep the gaming, he will falter because he's batting out of his bubble. That's why he had his peak as an opener and he was able to score so heavily in Australia.

The guy couldn't even develop the guts to hit a 4 or 6 when 4-5 runs were required and Abbas was at the non-strikers end, he kept blocking, blocking and hoping to take a single of the last few balls and that Abbas would survive against NZ. He has zero temprament and will always be found out against quality teams. Clearly he is a failed investment by Misbah ul Haq and the PCB should move on.
 
The guy couldn't even develop the guts to hit a 4 or 6 when 4-5 runs were required and Abbas was at the non-strikers end, he kept blocking, blocking and hoping to take a single of the last few balls and that Abbas would survive against NZ. He has zero temprament and will always be found out against quality teams. Clearly he is a failed investment by Misbah ul Haq and the PCB should move on.

That is not what Aamir Sohail is saying.

BTW, no idea how you consider something a failed investment with over 5600 runs in Tests. That is not a failed investment.

In fact by definition of an investment, work needs to be done to save that investment and turn it from a loss making to a profitable one by putting and devoting more resources to it.
 
That is not what Aamir Sohail is saying.

BTW, no idea how you consider something a failed investment with over 5600 runs in Tests. That is not a failed investment.

In fact by definition of an investment, work needs to be done to save that investment and turn it from a loss making to a profitable one by putting and devoting more resources to it.

Or, you learn to accept it as a sunk cost and move on.

Azhar doesn't totally fit into that category as he has had some defining contributions (though his time seems to be up now), but Shafiq definitely does.
 
Or, you learn to accept it as a sunk cost and move on.

Azhar doesn't totally fit into that category as he has had some defining contributions (though his time seems to be up now), but Shafiq definitely does.

I agree but that would be a huge decision. You can drop him for a short while but then make sure there is a specific development plan for him and not just to hang around talk shows complaining about life.
 
Well coaches were also the reason if the players fail and get out in the same manner for 6 times

I have seen waqar coach the speedsters really well, for example wahab amir and rahat improved suddenly during waqars tenure. But what these local coaches lack is interpersonal skills
 
I agree but that would be a huge decision. You can drop him for a short while but then make sure there is a specific development plan for him and not just to hang around talk shows complaining about life.

I mean if age is not on his side and he can't score in domestics right away, then I'm afraid it's too late.

Pakistan comes first. If our team doing better means Shafiq/Azhar complain on talk shows, then so be it.
 
His point is simple, if your best and most experienced batsman is getting out caught behind the stumps so many times then he needs to be coached or helped. He is not talking about teaching him to score runs.

Needs to be helped into Retirement, Am sorry but if a senior player is struggling with the game theres only so much a coach can say or do, the rest is down to the player.
 
At the highest level coaching makes minimal if any effect at all. These payers have more knowledge of their games than the coaches, and if they care enough they will sort it out like Kohli did with the moving ball. Having these coaches is a waste of time, and they make little difference.
 
Shan masood when he 1st came into side didnt know which end of the cricket bat to hold, hes gone away and found a personal coach and worked on his game.

Will Azhar and shafiq do such a thing? No!
why? Because if you persist with players and let them get away with rubbish performances then become complacent and dont work at their game.

Azhars been a walking wicket since the Ireland series away, has he shown any technical improvements or mental improvements since then?

No, because like shafiq hes a protected player when it comes to selection.
 
Shan masood when he 1st came into side didnt know which end of the cricket bat to hold, hes gone away and found a personal coach and worked on his game.

Will Azhar and shafiq do such a thing? No!
why? Because if you persist with players and let them get away with rubbish performances then become complacent and dont work at their game.

Azhars been a walking wicket since the Ireland series away, has he shown any technical improvements or mental improvements since then?

No, because like shafiq hes a protected player when it comes to selection.

To be honest Shan Masood has exposed all the players in our team who have been playing for the last 10 years but haven't improved an inch and shown it is possible to improve drastically if you work very hard on your game day in day out behind the scenes
 
Grant is a lovely man. A really nice guy who the players admire and like.

In my opinion he is too nice to be a coach for the Pakistan cricket team.
 
Grant is a lovely man. A really nice guy who the players admire and like.

In my opinion he is too nice to be a coach for the Pakistan cricket team.

It's good cop bad cop with Mickey the bad cop
 
Having been watching cricket for 20 years now I can say that regardless of generation, Our cricketers are the most nikammay people around
 
Aamir Sohail spot on about Imam and his temperament.
 
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With each passing series, the heat increases on Flower.
 
According to Imam ul Haq his improvement is all due to Grant Flower's efforts.

Its the usual trend, the younger guys than the coaches....and a few them when they become senior either forget to thank coaches or when they lose form, throw them under the bus, usually indirectly, with the help of the press or the ex players.
 
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