"He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed"

[Justcrazy]

Is Jesus already in heaven? I thought all Prophets are humans and they died like humans.

There are exceptions , Allah swt says every soul shall taste death , so Jesus will also die a human death eventually . When he returns and resumes his worldly life after that he will die.

 

[sweep_shot]

^ Perry is not even very talented but somehow made it as one of the biggest stars. No doubt she is into some sort of Satanic or Occult based ideology.

Her video shows the one eye but goes further using Egyptian symbolism. You may have noticed many use the Egyptian symbols and hieroglyphics. Some believe the imposter has been around since then, moving from Empire to Empire but ensuring the bloodline of his evil puppets doesn't die but moves on.

Right. I think this is the one you are referring to:

This video is quite creepy I must say. Lots of symbolism.

Do you know who, when and where the Atomic bomb was first thought of?

No idea. Who?

 

[Robert]

^ Perry is not even very talented but somehow made it as one of the biggest stars. No doubt she is into some sort of Satanic or Occult based ideology.

Her video shows the one eye but goes further using Egyptian symbolism. You may have noticed many use the Egyptian symbols and hieroglyphics. Some believe the imposter has been around since then, moving from Empire to Empire but ensuring the bloodline of his evil puppets doesn't die but moves on.

Do you know who, when and where the Atomic bomb was first thought of?

KP was around for years before finally getting a hit with I Kissed a Girl. Her father is a pastor. She is successful because she is highly telegenic with a brilliant singing voice and creative video ideas.

Since the “Hip Hop Illuminati” conspiracy theory started circulating, several music stars began to play up to it. They cannot lose doing this, because greater social media footfall translates into more downloads and tickets sold.

 

[Robert]

I have no idea but some feel many of these are possessed by Jinns.

Beyonce is one of the most talked of. Her first big hit(when I used to listen to such rubbish) was a song called Crazy in Love. In this song she is said to be signing to her Jinn, begging to be chosen and possessed and in return have the riches of the world. Her Jinn name is Sasha Fierce. Again its just what some believe, i keep an open mind but makes some sense.

It’s a persona she wears to get through stage fright. Remember that she was already a big star in Destiny’s Child at that point.

You might as well say that all actors are possessed by demons every time they act. I’ve done a lot of amateur theatre. No demons there, just people expressing themselves through art.

 

[sweep_shot]

You might as well say that all actors are possessed by demons every time they act. I’ve done a lot of amateur theatre. No demons there, just people expressing themselves through art.

Not all actors are like this obviously. We are discussing some specific actors/actresses.

You have to read about these stuffs more thoroughly to understand these.

 

[Robert]

Not all actors are like this obviously. We are discussing some specific actors/actresses.

You have to read about these stuffs more thoroughly to understand these.

I wouldn’t say “understand” is an appropriate word to use here. It’s all nonsense.

 

[the Great Khan]

I wouldn’t say “understand” is an appropriate word to use here. It’s all nonsense.

It's your belief its nonsense. But as Muslims we believe there are clear connections between the occult the unseen and modern entertainment..you may not believe it but your a non Muslim so we wouldn't expect you to understand the world of the unseen..

 

[Robert]

It's your belief its nonsense. But as Muslims we believe there are clear connections between the occult the unseen and modern entertainment..you may not believe it but your a non Muslim so we wouldn't expect you to understand the world of the unseen..

My beliefs are based on evidence. I've read shedloads of books on the occult and the esoteric. There's plenty of stuff to teach you how to do "magick" - you can buy them on Amazon.

A bunch of pop stars playing with occult imagery is merely pushing buttons to generate more social media buzz and shift more units.

 

[Champ_Pal]

It's your belief its nonsense. But as Muslims we believe there are clear connections between the occult the unseen and modern entertainment..you may not believe it but your a non Muslim so we wouldn't expect you to understand the world of the unseen..

If there is a truth that requires our faith or belief in it, then it is not true. A real truth does not require our belief or faith. Like Gravity.

 

[sweep_shot]

Why are non-Muslims coming in to hijack the thread? This is a Dajjal/Antichrist thread. Post about Dajjal or else just avoid the thread.

 

[sweep_shot]

A bunch of pop stars playing with occult imagery is merely pushing buttons to generate more social media buzz and shift more units.

How do you know this? Did they personally tell you this?

There are whistleblowers and documentaries about these.

You are the same guy who believes in official 9/11 story and thinks 5 Eyes are the good guys.

 

[Robert]

How do you know this? Did they personally tell you this?

There are whistleblowers and documentaries about these.

You are the same guy who believes in official 9/11 story and thinks 5 Eyes are the good guys.

Did they personally tell you they are Illuminati?

Yes, I look at evidence, and accept reasonable and logical explanations which fit it.

Never said The Five Eyes are the "good guys". Please don't make things up about me.

 

[Robert]

Why are non-Muslims coming in to hijack the thread? This is a Dajjal/Antichrist thread. Post about Dajjal or else just avoid the thread.

The concept of Antichrist precedes Islam. He's in the Book of Revelations in the Bible..

 

[sweep_shot]

The concept of Antichrist precedes Islam. He's in the Book of Revelations in the Bible..

Did we deny that? LOL.

Not sure what your point is.

Both Christians and Muslims believe in Antichrist/Dajjal.

 

[sweep_shot]

The concept of Antichrist precedes Islam. He's in the Book of Revelations in the Bible..

Did we deny that? LOL.

Not sure what your point is.

Both Christians and Muslims believe in Antichrist/Dajjal.

Just to add.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, "No prophet was sent but that he warned his followers against the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). Beware! He is blind in one eye, and your Lord is not so, and there will be written between his (Ad-Dajjal's) eyes (the word) Kafir (i.e., disbeliever)." [SAHIH BUKHARI 7131]

All prophets (peace be upon them) have warned their people about Antichrist.

 

[Technics 1210]

I find it quite bizarre that Atheists not only defend the Bible, but quote it too.

Frankly speaking such people have no idea what they believe in.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I find it quite bizarre that Atheists not only defend the Bible, but quote it too.

Frankly speaking such people have no idea what they believe in.

Christianity and Islam are intertwined. Judiaism was pulled into Christian and Islamic scriptures. They never asked for it. Hence when we talk about one Abrahamic faith, the others are also dragged into it.

 

[sweep_shot]

Christianity and Islam are intertwined. Judiaism was pulled into Christian and Islamic scriptures. They never asked for it. Hence when we talk about one Abrahamic faith, the others are also dragged into it.

Are you saying we don't know the common root among Christianity, Judaism, and Islam? LOL.

The thing is I see no Christian or Jew here. Both you and Robert seem atheists.

Also, you two are not posting any verse from Bible or Torah. All you two are doing is muddying the waters.

 

[Technics 1210]

Judaism was pulled into Christianity? )

Some one didn't do their homework; Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew.

I though education standards were high in the West?

 

[Robert]

Not sure what your point is.

Both Christians and Muslims believe in Antichrist/Dajjal.

You’ve found the point, then.

 

[Robert]

The thing is I see no Christian or Jew here. Both you and Robert seem atheists.

Also, you two are not posting any verse from Bible or Torah. All you two are doing is muddying the waters.

That’s what I am, is it?

Paul’s Second Letter to the Thessalonians Ch 2:

3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

 

[sweep_shot]

That’s what I am, is it?

Paul’s Second Letter to the Thessalonians Ch 2:

3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Some Bible verses finally.

What's your belief though?

On one thread, you said you don't see any evidence for God. That makes you an atheist.

On another time, you said you believe in "magick".

So, which one is it? What's your belief? Are you a Christian, Pagan, or atheist?

 

[KingKhanWC]

KP was around for years before finally getting a hit with I Kissed a Girl. Her father is a pastor. She is successful because she is highly telegenic with a brilliant singing voice and creative video ideas.

Since the “Hip Hop Illuminati” conspiracy theory started circulating, several music stars began to play up to it. They cannot lose doing this, because greater social media footfall translates into more downloads and tickets sold.

It’s a persona she wears to get through stage fright. Remember that she was already a big star in Destiny’s Child at that point.

You might as well say that all actors are possessed by demons every time they act. I’ve done a lot of amateur theatre. No demons there, just people expressing themselves through art.

lol.

You're an athiest , we dont excpect you to believe this as you dont believe in God , why would you.

Im not interested in her life, a rubbish singer who is a obsessed with the occult.

Please dont use this thread to tell us you dont believe, we know this.

 

[KingKhanWC]

R
No idea. Who?

In a place called Bohemian Grove. It is where the Manhattan Project was discussed, which led to the creation of the atomic bomb.

This is an occult devil worshiping site in California where they worship a tall wooden owl and rituals include a fake child sacrifice. Rich, powerful and famous people inc Presidents of the US have been/are members.

 

[Robert]

Some Bible verses finally.

What's your belief though?

On one thread, you said you don't see any evidence for God. That makes you an atheist.

Not really. There is a more parsimonious explanation for the universe than a creator god(s). Doesn’t mean there is no creator god(s). Better to say I am agnostic about this.

On another time, you said you believe in "magick".

So, which one is it? What's your belief? Are you a Christian, Pagan, or atheist

There isn’t a convenient label for me. It would take a lot of text to explain.

That which you term “magick”, I would describe as different techniques for altering consciousness.

That which you call the Devil, I would describe as the principle of materialism elevated over the principle of spirituality.

That which you call the Dajjal / Antichrist I would call populist politicians.

 

[sweep_shot]

Not really. There is a more parsimonious explanation for the universe than a creator god(s). Doesn’t mean there is no creator god(s). Better to say I am agnostic about this.



There isn’t a convenient label for me. It would take a lot of text to explain.

That which you term “magick”, I would describe as different techniques for altering consciousness.

That which you call the Devil, I would describe as the principle of materialism elevated over the principle of spirituality.

That which you call the Dajjal / Antichrist I would call populist politicians.

Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. It seems like you do not know what you believe in. You are confused like those from gender studies.

Anyway. We are going off-topic. Let's stick to Antichrist/Dajjal.

 

[sweep_shot]

In a place called Bohemian Grove. It is where the Manhattan Project was discussed, which led to the creation of the atomic bomb.

This is an occult devil worshiping site in California where they worship a tall wooden owl and rituals include a fake child sacrifice. Rich, powerful and famous people inc Presidents of the US have been/are members.

I see. Interesting.

Yeah. I am aware of Bohemian Grove. Alex Jones actually went there undercover and got footages. They apparently have a massive statue of owl. The place is quite creepy and various occult rituals seem to take place.

 

[PakLFC]

The one eye sign is all over the place now. Most of all it is so popular among satanic celebrities of every film, music and sport and industry. I would go as far as saying that every world leader and politician is a satanist, absolutely. Yes the Dajjal will be one eyed with "kafir" written on his forehead. His coming is near for sure if he has not already arrived.

 

[sweep_shot]

In a place called Bohemian Grove. It is where the Manhattan Project was discussed, which led to the creation of the atomic bomb.

This is an occult devil worshiping site in California where they worship a tall wooden owl and rituals include a fake child sacrifice. Rich, powerful and famous people inc Presidents of the US have been/are members.

Found this, [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]. Footages from Bohemian Grove. Fast forward to 1 hour and 30 minutes.

I don't listen to Alex Jones much but I think he did a great job with Bohemian Grove.

 

[sweep_shot]

The one eye sign is all over the place now. Most of all it is so popular among satanic celebrities of every film, music and sport and industry. I would go as far as saying that every world leader and politician is a satanist, absolutely. Yes the Dajjal will be one eyed with "kafir" written on his forehead. His coming is near for sure if he has not already arrived.

Yup. It seems like many politicians are compromised. I feel JFK was possibly assassinated because he didn't submit to this Satanic cabal.

As Muslims, we must be prepared. Fitnah of Dajjal is supposed to be the greatest fitnah humanity has ever seen.

 

[PakLFC]

Yup. It seems like many politicians are compromised. I feel JFK was possibly assassinated because he didn't submit to this Satanic cabal.

As Muslims, we must be prepared. Fitnah of Dajjal is supposed to be the greatest fitnah humanity has ever seen.

Yeah but you know only the toughest of the toughest will be alive during Dajjal's reign. Those who are on earth during that period will there because Allah wants them there. Most will probably perish where as many too with the power of faith will survive.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't listen to Alex Jones much but I think he did a great job with Bohemian Grove.

Yep Jones is a bit of a clown but this was a good video. This has been known for decades.

The fact the occult premises being the place where the atomic bomb was born is no coincidence.

Jack Parsons was one of the founders of rocket power,propulsion. He was a self declared Satanist. Some claim Jinns/Dajjal helps with inspiring such technology which although can be used for good but is so dangerous to humans too.

 

[sweep_shot]

Yep Jones is a bit of a clown but this was a good video. This has been known for decades.

The fact the occult premises being the place where the atomic bomb was born is no coincidence.

Jack Parsons was one of the founders of rocket power,propulsion. He was a self declared Satanist. Some claim Jinns/Dajjal helps with inspiring such technology which although can be used for good but is so dangerous to humans too.

Yeah. Jack Parsons. I learned about him last year.

There is actually a conspiracy theory that "aliens" are working with United States and Israel. You can read about it here: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weird-...-extraterrestrials-exist-trump-knows-n1250333.

I think it is possible these "aliens" (if true) are nothing but Jinns/demons/shayateen.

Again, just a conspiracy theory. It may or may not be true.

 

[sweep_shot]

Yep Jones is a bit of a clown but this was a good video. This has been known for decades.

The fact the occult premises being the place where the atomic bomb was born is no coincidence.

Jack Parsons was one of the founders of rocket power,propulsion. He was a self declared Satanist. Some claim Jinns/Dajjal helps with inspiring such technology which although can be used for good but is so dangerous to humans too.

Some resources about Jack Parsons:

Religious beliefs

[Parsons] treated magic and rocketry as different sides of the same coin: both had been disparaged, both derided as impossible, but because of this both presented themselves as challenges to be conquered. Rocketry postulated that we should no longer see ourselves as creatures chained to the earth but as beings capable of exploring the universe.

Similarly, magic suggested there were unseen metaphysical worlds that existed and could be explored with the right knowledge. Both rocketry and magic were rebellions against the very limits of human existence; in striving for one challenge he could not help but strive for the other.

—George Pendle[176]

Parsons adhered to the occult philosophy of Thelema, which had been founded in 1904 by the English occultist Aleister Crowley following a spiritual revelation that he had in Cairo, Egypt, when—according to Crowley's accounts—a spirit being known as Aiwass dictated to him a prophetic text known as The Book of the Law.[177] Prior to becoming aware of Thelema and Crowley, Parsons' interest in esotericism was developed through his reading of The Golden Bough (1890), a work in comparative mythology by Scottish social anthropologist James George Frazer.[57] Parsons had also attended lectures on Theosophy by philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti with his first wife Helen, but disliked the belief system's sentiment of "the good and the true".[178] During rocket tests, Parsons often recited Crowley's poem "Hymn to Pan" as a good luck charm.[168] He took to addressing Crowley as his "Most Beloved Father" and signed off to him as "thy son, John".[179]

In July 1945, Parsons gave a speech to the Agape Lodge, in which he attempted to explain how he felt that The Book of the Law could be made relevant to "modern life". In this speech, which was subsequently published under the title of "Doing Your Will", he examined the Thelemite concept of True Will, writing that:

The mainspring of an individual is his creative Will. This Will is the sum of his tendencies, his destiny, his inner truth. It is one with the force that makes the birds sing and flowers bloom; as inevitable as gravity, as implicit as a bowel movement, it informs alike atoms and men and suns.

To the man who knows this Will, there is no why or why not, no can or cannot; he is!

There is no known force that can turn an apple into an alley cat; there is no known force that can turn a man from his Will. This is the triumph of genius; that, surviving the centuries, enlightens the world.

This force burns in every man.[180]

Parsons identified four obstacles that prevented humans from achieving and performing their True Will, all of which he connected with fear: the fear of incompetence, the fear of the opinion of others, the fear of hurting others, and the fear of insecurity. He insisted that these must be overcome, writing that "The Will must be freed of its fetters. The ruthless examination and destruction of taboos, complexes, frustrations, dislikes, fears and disgusts hostile to the Will is essential to progress."[181]

Though Parsons was a lifelong devotee to Thelema, he grew weary of and eventually left the Ordo Templi Orientis—the religious organization that began propagating Thelema under Crowley's leadership from the 1910s—which Parsons viewed, despite the disagreement of Crowley himself, as excessively hierarchical and impeding upon the rigorous spiritual and philosophical practice of True Will, describing the O.T.O. as "an excellent training school for adepts, but hardly an appropriate Order for the manifestation of Thelema". In this sense Parsons was described by Carter as an "almost fundamentalist" Thelemite who placed The Book of the Law's dogma above all other doctrine.[134][182]

Politics
[Parsons] had witnessed the blinding overnight successes achieved by the government-by-terror totalitarianism of Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany. He had the foresight to see that [the United States of] America, once armed with the new powers of total destruction and surveillance that were sure to follow the swelling flood of new technologies, had the potential to become even more repressive unless its founding principles of individual liberty were religiously preserved and its leaders held accountable to them.
Two of the keys to redressing the balance were the freedom of women and an end to the state control of individual sexual expression. He knew that these potent forces, embodied as they are in a majority of the world's population, had the power, once unleashed, to change the world.

—William Breeze (Hymenaeus Beta), current Frater Superior of Ordo Templi Orientis[183]
From early on in his career, Parsons took an interest in socialism and communism,[184] views that he shared with his friend Frank Malina.[185] Under the influence of another friend, Sidney Weinbaum, the two joined a communist group in the late 1930s, with Parsons reading Marxist literature, but he remained unconvinced and refused to join the American Communist Party.[55] Malina asserted that this was because Parsons was a "political romantic", whose attitude was more anti-authoritarian than anti-capitalist.[186] Parsons later became critical of the Marxist–Leninist government of the Soviet Union led by Joseph Stalin, sarcastically commenting that

The dictatorship of the proletariat is merely temporary — the state will eventually wither away like a snark hunter, leaving us all free as birds. Meanwhile, it may be necessary to kill, torture and imprison a few million people, but whose fault is it if they get in the way of progress?[187]

During the era of McCarthyism and the Second Red Scare in the early 1950s, Parsons was questioned regarding his former links to the communist movement, by which time he denied any connection to it, instead describing himself as "an individualist" who was both anti-communist and anti-fascist.[188] In reaction to the McCarthyite red-baiting of scientists, he expressed disdain that cience, that was going to save the world in H. G. Wells' time is regimented, straight-jacked, [and] scared shitless, its universal language diminished to one word, security.[189]

Parsons was politically influenced by Thelema, which holds to the ethical code of "Do what thou wilt". In his essay, "Freedom is a Lonely Star", Parsons equated this principle to the libertarian views of a number of the Founding Fathers of the United States. By his own time, he wrote, these values "sold out by America, and for that reason the heart of America is sick and the soul of America is dead."[190] He proceeded to criticize many aspects of contemporary U.S. society, particularly the police force ("[t]he police mind is usually of a sadistic and homicidal trend") and note they carried out the "ruthless punishment of symbolic scapegoats" such as African-Americans, prostitutes, alcoholics, homeless people and sociopolitical radicals, under the pretense of a country that upheld "liberty and justice for all."[191]

To bring about a freer future, Parsons believed in liberalizing attitudes to sexual morality stating that, in his belief, the publication of the Kinsey report and development of the psychonautical sciences had as significant an influence on Western society as the creation of the atomic bomb and the development of nuclear physics. He believed that in the future the restrictions on sexual morality within society should be abolished in order to bring about greater freedom and individuality. Parsons concluded that

the liberty of the individual is the foundation of civilization. No true civilization is possible without this liberty and no state, national or international, is stable in its absence. The proper relation between individual liberty on the one hand and social responsibility on the other is the balance which will assure a stable society. The only other road to social equilibrium demands the total annihilation of individuality. There is not further evasion of nature's immemorial ultimatum: change or perish but the choice of change is ours.[192]

Jack Cashill, American studies professor at Purdue University, argues that "Although his literary career never got much beyond pamphleteering and an untitled anti-war, anti-capitalist manuscript", Parsons played a significant role—greater than that of Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey—in shaping the Californian counterculture of the 1960s and beyond through his influence on contemporaries such as Hubbard and Heinlein.[193] Hugh Urban, religious studies professor at Ohio State University, cites Parsons' Witchcraft group as precipitating the neopagan revival of the 1950s.[117][194]

Robert Anton Wilson, a cult writer and occultist known for his works of nonfiction and science fiction, described Parsons' political writings as exemplifying an "ultra-individualist" who exhibited a "genuine sympathy for working people", strongly empathized with feminism and held an antipathy toward patriarchy comparable to that of John Stuart Mill. Wilson argued in this context that Parsons was an influence on the American libertarian and anarchist movements of the 20th century.[195]

Parsons was also supportive of the creation of the State of Israel. He made plans to emigrate there when his military security clearance was revoked.[184]

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons.

Two points got my attention from the above article:

- Parsons was a believer in occult and magic. He was into Satanism.

- Parsons was a supporter of creation of Israel.

 

[Robert]

Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. It seems like you do not know what you believe in. You are confused like those from gender studies.

Anyway. We are going off-topic. Let's stick to Antichrist/Dajjal.

My beliefs are backed up by physical evidence.

To quote a Canadian songwriter - “I placed no trust in a faith that was ready-made”. I rejected the off-the-shelf belief system I was born into, and spent decades working things out for myself by reading religion, science, philosophy and psychology and applying critical thought.

Isn’t it more parsimonious to consider the Devil to be materialism than an evil spirit? And your Bohemian Grove to be a private hangout for a bunch of rich boys, where they figure out how to get richer? And in getting richer, elevate their egos and suppress their spirituality?

There’s a new pagan idol in the town five miles from my village. Doesn’t mean everyone in the village is pagan or Satanist. It means someone put up a statue. There are green man carvings all over medieval churches. He’s a pagan god. Doesn’t mean that Christians are pagans, but that Christianity absorbed certain pagan ideas. So that there is a statue of an owl in Bohemian Grove doesn’t make everyone in the boys club a Satanist. It means someone built a statue of an owl in a wood.

 

[Robert]

Some resources about Jack Parsons:



Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons.

Two points got my attention from the above article:

- Parsons was a believer in occult and magic. He was into Satanism.

- Parsons was a supporter of creation of Israel.

What I took from that piece is that Parsons was a libertarian / anarchist free-thinker. He wanted ordinary working people to be free from the control of state and religion, including women.

Parsons was a devotee of Aleister Crowley, not Satanism.

I’ve read a bit of Crowley, and a lot of Robert Anton Wilson. You should read Wilson, particularly Quantum Psychology - a book which upgraded my ability to think.

 

[sweep_shot]

Parsons was a devotee of Aleister Crowley, not Satanism.

This statement shows how much you really know about Aleister Crowley.

For the record: https://academic.oup.com/book/8721/chapter-abstract/154791217?redirectedFrom=fulltext.

 

[sweep_shot]

My beliefs are backed up by physical evidence.

To quote a Canadian songwriter - “I placed no trust in a faith that was ready-made”. I rejected the off-the-shelf belief system I was born into, and spent decades working things out for myself by reading religion, science, philosophy and psychology and applying critical thought.

Isn’t it more parsimonious to consider the Devil to be materialism than an evil spirit? And your Bohemian Grove to be a private hangout for a bunch of rich boys, where they figure out how to get richer? And in getting richer, elevate their egos and suppress their spirituality?

There’s a new pagan idol in the town five miles from my village. Doesn’t mean everyone in the village is pagan or Satanist. It means someone put up a statue. There are green man carvings all over medieval churches. He’s a pagan god. Doesn’t mean that Christians are pagans, but that Christianity absorbed certain pagan ideas. So that there is a statue of an owl in Bohemian Grove doesn’t make everyone in the boys club a Satanist. It means someone built a statue of an owl in a wood.

You clearly have no idea what we are discussing.

You are kind of hijacking the thread with your atheistic/agnostic view. This thread is about Dajjal/Antichrist (an entity that is considered as a literal evil figure by both Muslims and Christians).

So, unless you have some Abrahamic verses to post, you are offering nothing to this thread.

 

[Robert]

This statement shows how much you really know about Aleister Crowley.

For the record: https://academic.oup.com/book/8721/chapter-abstract/154791217?redirectedFrom=fulltext.

If Crowley influenced modern Satanism, then this tells me that modern Satanists have not understood Crowley. “Love is the Law, love under Will” - not very Satanic is it?

Anton LaVey Satanism is about elevation of ego and a return to natural animalistic practices. You can buy The Satanic Bible in shops so it is hardly occult (which means “hidden”).

If you read Crowley himself, rather than about him, you will better understand the man. He has plenty of books available on Amazon.

 

[sweep_shot]

If Crowley influenced modern Satanism, then this tells me that modern Satanists have not understood Crowley. “Love is the Law, love under Will” - not very Satanic is it?

Anton LaVey Satanism is about elevation of ego and a return to natural animalistic practices. You can buy The Satanic Bible in shops so it is hardly occult (which means “hidden”).

If you read Crowley himself, rather than about him, you will better understand the man. He has plenty of books available on Amazon.

The fact you are defending Crawley (someone who is widely considered as a Satanist) shows your poor knowledge regarding this topic.

 

[Robert]

You clearly have no idea what we are discussing.

You are kind of hijacking the thread with your atheistic/agnostic view. This thread is about Dajjal/Antichrist (an entity that is considered as a literal evil figure by both Muslims and Christians).

So, unless you have some Abrahamic verses to post, you are offering nothing to this thread.

I’ve been pondering these ideas for decades. Your nose is pressed up against the picture and so you can’t see much if it. I’m looking at the same picture as you, but from further back with wider perspective.

More educated and better-read Christians would consider the Devil and Antichrist not to be evil spirits but to be psychological principles, as do I.

 

[Robert]

The fact you are defending Crawley (someone who is widely considered as a Satanist) shows your poor knowledge regarding this topic.

Where did I defend him?

He’s widely considered a Satanist by people who have not read him.

Try reading him.

 

[sweep_shot]

I’ve been pondering these ideas for decades. Your nose is pressed up against the picture and so you can’t see much if it. I’m looking at the same picture as you, but from further back with wider perspective.

More educated and better-read Christians would consider the Devil and Antichrist not to be evil spirits but to be psychological principles, as do I.

What do Bible, Quran, and Hadith say? These texts are very clear that Dajjal is a literal figure.

This is why I think you are derailing the thread. We are not discussing whether or not Dajjal exists. We are discussing the characteristics and impacts of a literal Dajjal.

 

[sweep_shot]

Anyway. Back to the topic.

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Found this:

One of the ten big signs that will appear near the Judgement Day is the ‘Emergence of Dajjaal’. Throughout human history, the mischief of Dajjaal is the worst and the most dangerous one. The enormity and severity of his mischief can be realized by the fact that every Prophet warned his Ummah about it. (Tirmizi, vol. 4, pp. 101, Hadees 2241)

Introduction and types of Dajjaal
Dajjaal means a grave liar. Since Dajjaal will also tell a lie by mixing the truth with falsehood, he is also called Dajjaal. He will first present himself as a believer and will call people towards good but later on, he will claim to be a prophet and finally to be god. It is said that he will be of Jewish origin.(Fath-ul-Bari, vol. 14, pp. 78; Al-Tazkirah Li-Qurtubi, pp. 607’ Mirat-ul-Manajih, vol. 7, pp. 276)

Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan Na’eemi رَحْمَةُ اللّٰهُ عَلَيْه has said: There are two types of Dajjaal; minor and major. As for minor Dajjals, there were and will be many of them. Every false prophet, false Maulvi, Sufi, who misguides people is Dajjaal. Major Dajjaal is only one who will claim to be god. (Mirat-ul-Manajih, vol. 7, pp. 276)

Belief
Imam Muhammad Bin Ahmad Qurtubi رَحْمَةُ اللّٰهِ عَلَيْه has said, ‘To believe in the existence of Dajjaal and in his appearance (near the Judgment Day) is the truth and is the doctrine of the Ahl-e-Sunnat and has been generally adopted by Islamic Jurists and Hadees scholars.’. (Al-Tazkirah Li-Qurtubi, pp. 612)

Physical appearance of Dajjaal
Based on Ahadees, the following appearance of Dajjaal has been narrated. He will be a tall and one-eyed young man. His defective eye will be like a swollen grape and the other eye will be blood-stained. His chest will be wide but slightly sunken. He will have a wide forehead with ك ف ر meaning کافر written between both of his eyes. Every Muslim will be able to read it whether he knows how to read and write or not. Dajjaal will have curly hair. (Bukhari, vol. 4, pp. 450, Hadees 7128; Muslim, pp. 1199, Hadees 7364-7367; Al-Tazkirah Li-Qurtubi, pp. 640)

Emergence of Dajjaal
Before the emergence of Dajjaal, the world will be in the worst condition. As mentioned in blessed Ahadees, there will be widespread famine around the world. The 1st year, the sky will stop one third of rain and the earth will stop one third of production. The 2nd year, the sky will stop two third of rain and the earth will stop two third of production, whereas the 3rd year the sky will stop rain completely and the earth will stop its all production. The sky will be turned into glass and the earth into copper. (Due to this drought) all animals will die. Mischiefs will be widespread. Men will be killing and exiling each other. Then Dajjaal will emerge from a city called Asfahan or Khurasan in the east. In addition to the famine, there will also be lack of knowledge and spirituality. People will be weak in their religious matters. There will be lack of Islamic scholars and religious people. (Tirmizi, vol. 4, pp. 102, Hadees 2244’ Musnad-e-Imam Ahmad, vol. 10, pp. 435, Hadees 27639’ Al-Tazkirah, Li-Qurtubi, pp. 610-615)

Duration of his stay on earth and visit around it
Dajjaal will stay on the earth for 40 days. The first of these days will be equal to one year, the second day will be equal to a month, the third one will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be like normal days of a year. (Muslim, pp. 1200, Hadees 7373) Dajjaal will move around the entire world riding on his donkey. The donkey will be so big in size that the distance between both of his ears will be equal to 40 arms. The speed of his donkey will be so fast that it will cover the distance of one mile by taking a single step. On the earth, he will go to every area whether deserts or mountains or plains. However, he will not be able to enter Makkah and Madinah as they will be guarded by angels but he will stay on the quagmire outside (Madinah). Three tremors will occur in Madinah, causing every disbeliever and hypocrite to run away from Madinah and to join Dajjaal. That day, the holy city of Madinah will be free from every male and female hypocrite and transgressor. That’s why, this day is also named as Yaum-ul-Khallaas. According to some narrations, Dajjaal will also not be able to go to Bayt-ul-Muqaddas and the mountain of Toor. (Muslim, pp. 1206, Hadees 2943; Mustadrak lil-Haakim, vol. 5, pp. 753, Hadees 8675’ Al-Tazkirah Li-Qurtubi, pp. 614-615-616)

Tricks of Dajjaal and their reality
Dajjaal will try to destroy the faith of people through his different tricks. It is stated in a blessed Hadees that there will be mountains of loaves of bread with him. All people other than the followers of Dajjaal will be in extreme trouble. There will be two streams with him. He will name one of them as Jannah and the other as Hell. In fact, the one he will call Jannah will be Hell and the one he will call Hell will be Jannah. It will rain from the sky when he commands and, after killing a person, Dajjaal will bring back the killed person to life in front of people. (Musnad Imam Ahmad, vol. 5, pp. 156, Hadees 14959)

Death of Dajjaal
Worried by the mischiefs of Dajjaal, believers will run away in extreme trouble and will take shelter in the mountain named ‘Jabal-e-Dukhan’ but Dajjaal will chase after them and surround the mountain. Believers will be in extreme hunger and trouble. Then Allah عَزَّوَجَلَّ will send Sayyiduna ‘Isa عَـلَيْـهِ الـسَّـلَام. As soon as Dajjaal will see Sayyiduna ‘Isa عَـلَيْـهِ الـسَّـلَام , Dajjaal will dissolve as salt dissolves into water and he عَـلَيْـهِ الـسَّـلَام will kill Dajjaal at the place of ‘Ludd [لُدّ]’ and will not leave alive even a single person from amongst the followers of Dajjaal. (Musnad Imam Ahmad, vol. 5, pp. 156, Hadees 14959; Muslim, pp. 1200, Hadees 7373)

Source: https://www.dawateislami.net/magazine/en/islamic-beliefs-and-information/who-is-dajjal.

 

[Robert]

What do Bible, Quran, and Hadith say? These texts are very clear that Dajjal is a literal figure.

This is why I think you are derailing the thread. We are not discussing whether or not Dajjal exists. We are discussing the characteristics and impacts of a literal Dajjal.

A metaphorical one can have similar impact.

But if you stick to literalism, the Biblical “man of lawlessness” / False Prophet could be Donald Trump - who corrodes public trust in the law while holding up the Bible, lining his own pockets and elevating his own ego.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]

Interesting a lot of the symbolism is also used by the Royal Family.

Royal Welsh regiment led by goat in Cardiff march for King Charles’s proclamation
The Royal Welsh regiment was led through the streets of Cardiff by the Goat Major as the Welsh capital proclaimed King Charles III on Sunday, 11 September.

Thousands turned out to watch as the procession marched from City Hall to the castle, where the UK’s new monarch was proclaimed in a ceremony.

Royal Welsh have adopted goats as their mascots since the 1770s.

Proclamations were also read in the devolved parliaments in Northern Ireland and Scotland on Sunday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/king-charles-royal-goat-wales-b2165148.html



Im not suggesting a Royal is Dajjal lol.

Most in the family have no clue but Im sure some understand the many symbols associated with Dajjal have been in their history.

Do you know the relevance of the Goat in this subject?

 

[sweep_shot]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION]

Interesting a lot of the symbolism is also used by the Royal Family.



https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/king-charles-royal-goat-wales-b2165148.html

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Im not suggesting a Royal is Dajjal lol.

Most in the family have no clue but Im sure some understand the many symbols associated with Dajjal have been in their history.

Do you know the relevance of the Goat in this subject?

Goat? Baphomet?

Yeah. I know about Baphomet.

Read about it here:

Baphomet is a deity allegedly worshipped by the Knights Templar[3] that subsequently became incorporated into various occult and Western esoteric traditions.[4] The name Baphomet appeared in trial transcripts for the Inquisition of the Knights Templar starting in 1307.[5] It first came into popular English usage in the 19th century during debate and speculation on the reasons for the suppression of the Templar order.[3] Baphomet is a symbol of balance in various occult and mystical traditions, the origin of which some occultists have attempted to link with the Gnostics and Templars,[4] although occasionally purported to be a deity or a demon.[3] Since 1856 the name Baphomet has been associated with the "Sabbatic Goat" image drawn by Éliphas Lévi,[6] composed of binary elements representing the "symbolization of the equilibrium of opposites":[1] half-human and half-animal, male and female, good and evil, etc.[2] Lévi's intention was to symbolize his concept of balance, with Baphomet representing the goal of perfect social order.[2]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet.

 

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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Check post #204: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-is-not-one-eyed-quot&p=11556866#post11556866.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The Welsh Goat was leading the procession on Sept 11th.

Remember G Bush starting reading My Pet Goat once made aware of the attacks.

Royals believe there is a Royal Goat, with Royal blood.

Here is William Windsor II lol.

 

[sweep_shot]

The Welsh Goat was leading the procession on Sept 11th.

Remember G Bush starting reading My Pet Goat once made aware of the attacks.

Royals believe there is a Royal Goat, with Royal blood.

Here is William Windsor II lol.

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Yeah. I think goat possibly symbolizes something (just like pyramid and one eye).

I wonder if it is connected to Baphomet.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yeah. I think goat possibly symbolizes something (just like pyramid and one eye).

I wonder if it is connected to Baphomet.

I think it is depicting Baphomet.

Many of the Royals are into secret socities.

A branch of the Freemasons secret society is being formed by members of the Royal Household and police who protect the Royal Family.

And their decision to call it The Royal Household Lodge has put them on a collision course with Buckingham Palace – as has their plan to co-opt the royal cipher – EIIR – for their regalia, to underline their connection to the Queen.

Although the Queen's cousin, the Duke of Kent, is head of the secretive organisation – he is Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England – the new branch has not gone down well with the Royal Family.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...dge-Buckingham-Palace--Queen-isnt-amused.html

It would be nice to find out more but its secretive. Secret is part of their belief.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think it is depicting Baphomet.

Many of the Royals are into secret socities.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...dge-Buckingham-Palace--Queen-isnt-amused.html

It would be nice to find out more but its secretive. Secret is part of their belief.

Yes. It is possible not all members of Royal family are involved but it seems like some of them are definitely involved. Prince Andrew seems to be a part of it.

God knows best.

 

[Robert]

Yeah. I think goat possibly symbolizes something (just like pyramid and one eye).

I wonder if it is connected to Baphomet.

Or is just a goat.

HM The Queen was a deeply Christian woman who would not have tolerated witchcraft in the Guards Regiments.

 

[sweep_shot]

Or is just a goat.

HM The Queen was a deeply Christian woman who would not have tolerated witchcraft in the Guards Regiments.

Read about Baphomet please.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes. It is possible not all members of Royal family are involved but it seems like some of them are definitely involved. Prince Andrew seems to be a part of it.

God knows best.

Well Satanism loves harming children, Andys mate Jeffery had his own Satanic temple on an island where children were sexually abused. I hate to even imagine what went on inside.

As I posted, the Royals dont even hide their are involved in secret societies, yet people ignore this for some reason.

Have no idea if the Queen was a freemason, most likely but these previous monarch were, its well known.

James VI – Fellowcraft Freemason (Lodge Scoon and Perth No. 3 in Perth) (1601-1625)
George IV – Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England (1790-1813)[41]
William IV[41]
Edward VII – Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (1874-1901)[41]
Edward VIII[41]
George VI – Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland (1936-1937)[41]

 

[sweep_shot]

Well Satanism loves harming children, Andys mate Jeffery had his own Satanic temple on an island where children were sexually abused. I hate to even imagine what went on inside.

As I posted, the Royals dont even hide their are involved in secret societies, yet people ignore this for some reason.

Have no idea if the Queen was a freemason, most likely but these previous monarch were, its well known.

James VI – Fellowcraft Freemason (Lodge Scoon and Perth No. 3 in Perth) (1601-1625)
George IV – Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England (1790-1813)[41]
William IV[41]
Edward VII – Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (1874-1901)[41]
Edward VIII[41]
George VI – Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland (1936-1937)[41]

Indeed.

Epstein, Andrew, Ted Heath, Jimmy Savile etc. I can go on and on. There are too many identical cases and I don't think these are all coincidences.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indeed.

Epstein, Andrew, Ted Heath, Jimmy Savile etc. I can go on and on. There are too many identical cases and I don't think these are all coincidences.

Have you heard of Artemis ?

 

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Have you heard of Artemis ?

I know about Artemis. What about it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I know about Artemis. What about it?

Princess Diana sadly died in Paris. Artemis is seen all over Paris, near her death too. Another coincidence or a satanic ritual?

 

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Princess Diana sadly died in Paris. Artemis is seen all over Paris, near her death too. Another coincidence or a satanic ritual?

I see.

Quite possible.

They seem to be into various occult rituals.

There is a theory that 9/11 was a ritual too.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] what is your guess regarding the location of island of dajjal?

From my knowledge, The Prophet SAW said that he is in the east. So that would take out the theory that Dajjal is in Bermuda Triangle theory.

There is also a theory that an island near Yemen over which both Saudia and Yemen are at war could be the island.

If I have to guess, I'd say the water bodies are so vastly spread that his island could simply have not been located yet. For that island could be only 1km2 area located anywhere in the oceans.

 

[sweep_shot]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] what is your guess regarding the location of island of dajjal?

From my knowledge, The Prophet SAW said that he is in the east. So that would take out the theory that Dajjal is in Bermuda Triangle theory.

There is also a theory that an island near Yemen over which both Saudia and Yemen are at war could be the island.

If I have to guess, I'd say the water bodies are so vastly spread that his island could simply have not been located yet. For that island could be only 1km2 area located anywhere in the oceans.

See this:

Where the Dajjal will emerge
The Dajjal will emerge from the direction of the east, from Khurasan, from among the Jews of Isfahan. Then he will travel throughout the earth and will leave no city without entering it, apart from Makkah and Madinah , which he will not be able to enter because the angels are guarding them.

According to the hadith of Fatimah bint Qays (may Allah be pleased with her), the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said concerning the Dajjal:

“He will (emerge) from the direction of the Syrian sea or from the direction of the Yemeni sea… No, rather from the east…” – and he pointed towards the east. (Narrated by Muslim, no. 5228)

Abu Bakr al-Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told us: “The Dajjal will emerge from a land in the east called Khurasan.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2163. Classed as sahih by al-Albani, Sahih al-Jami’ al-Saghir, hadith 3398).

Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: ‘The Dajjal will emerge from among the Jews of Isfahan, and with him will be seventy thousand Jews, wearing crowns.’” (Narrated by Ahmad, no. 12865).

Also, check this:

The followers of the Dajjal
Most of the followers of the Dajjal will be from among the Jews, Persians and Turks, and a mixture of other people, mostly Bedouins and women.

Imam Muslim narrated in his Sahih (5237) from Anas ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The followers of the Dajjal from among the Jews of Isfahan will number seventy thousand, wearing heavy, striped garments.” According to a report narrated by Imam Ahmad, “Seventy thousand Jews, wearing crowns.” (hadith no. 12865).

According to the hadith of Abu Bakr referred to above: “He will be followed by people with faces like burnished shields.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2136).

With regard to the Bedouin being followers of the Dajjal, this is because many of them are ignorant. With regard to women, this is because they are readily swayed, and because many of them are ignorant. It was reported that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “The Dajjal will come to this pond in Marriqanat – a valley in Madinah – and most of those who go out to him will be women, until a man will come to his mother in law, his mother, his daughter, his sister and his aunt, and will tie them up strongly for fear that they will go out to him.” (Narrated by Ahmad, no. 5099)

Source: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/8806/who-is-the-dajjal-comprehensive-answer.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

See this:



Also, check this:



Source: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/8806/who-is-the-dajjal-comprehensive-answer.

I have already read these ahadith. But according to the Tamim Ad Dari's meeting with Dajjal when he was swept into an unknown island where Al Jassasa was also present, I was asking about that island where he is currently held.

Khurasan and Isfahan is where he will emerge and be noticed at first. But the location of the island where he is chained up was what I wanted to hear your views about.

 

[Robert]

Read about Baphomet please.

I read up on all this stuff decades ago. You seem to think you have discovered something significant. I contextualised it when you were in kindergarten.

 

[Robert]

Well Satanism loves harming children, Andys mate Jeffery had his own Satanic temple on an island where children were sexually abused. I hate to even imagine what went on inside.

As I posted, the Royals dont even hide their are involved in secret societies, yet people ignore this for some reason.

Have no idea if the Queen was a freemason, most likely but these previous monarch were, its well known.

James VI – Fellowcraft Freemason (Lodge Scoon and Perth No. 3 in Perth) (1601-1625)
George IV – Grand Master of the Premier Grand Lodge of England (1790-1813)[41]
William IV[41]
Edward VII – Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (1874-1901)[41]
Edward VIII[41]
George VI – Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland (1936-1937)[41]

Freemasonry is nothing to do with Satanism.

My grandad and uncle were Freemasons. The symbol is on the headstones. I was approached when I hit 18 but turned them down. And old boss of mine was. I’ve been to Freemasonry fundraiser dinners. These are not secret events. They do charity work. Nothing sinister.

 

[Robert]

I know about Artemis. What about it?

Greek goddess of the hunt? Freemasonry has no goddess.

 

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Freemasonry is nothing to do with Satanism.

My grandad and uncle were Freemasons. The symbol is on the headstones. I was approached when I hit 18 but turned them down. And old boss of mine was. I’ve been to Freemasonry fundraiser dinners. These are not secret events. They do charity work. Nothing sinister.

LOL. Like you can know what they do at the top level. You obviously can't know these from a "fundraiser dinner".

BTW, there have been whistleblowers.

 

[sweep_shot]

I have already read these ahadith. But according to the Tamim Ad Dari's meeting with Dajjal when he was swept into an unknown island where Al Jassasa was also present, I was asking about that island where he is currently held.

Khurasan and Isfahan is where he will emerge and be noticed at first. But the location of the island where he is chained up was what I wanted to hear your views about.

Location of the island is unknown. Nobody knows for sure.

Check this: https://www.abuaminaelias.com/where-is-the-island-of-dajjal/.

 

[sweep_shot]

Freemasonry is nothing to do with Satanism.

You are the same guy who believes in official 9/11 story and who believes BBC is a reliable/truthful platform.

So, we have already seen your "contextualization" ability.

I suggest you to research more.

I read up on all this stuff decades ago. You seem to think you have discovered something significant. I contextualised it when you were in kindergarten.

I have also "discovered" this almost a decade ago (2009, to be exact).

Looks like you didn't read up from the correct sources. You have faulty understanding.

 

[Robert]

LOL. Like you can know what they do at the top level. You obviously can't know these from a "fundraiser dinner".

BTW, there have been whistleblowers.

And neither can you, but you believe silly rumours anyway.

I believe in things for which there is evidence, like fundraising dinners.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is true, Freemasonry is nothing to do with Satanism. My friend is one of the highest ranking freemasons in the UK and I have been to a few of his masonry dinners. You will be surprised at what Freemasonry actually stands for - belief in a higher power, charity, and good deeds. Nothing to do with Satanism. Zilch.

Sure, there are favours among freemasons, but nothing to do with Satanism or worshipping the devil.

 

[sweep_shot]

And neither can you, but you believe silly rumours anyway.

I believe in things for which there is evidence, like fundraising dinners.

My beliefs come from watching various documentaries, interviews etc.

I don't get my belief from one video alone. I read about these stuffs since 2009.

 

[Robert]

You are the same guy who believes in official 9/11 story and who believes BBC is a reliable/truthful platform.

So, we have already seen your "contextualization" ability.

I suggest you to research more.

I have also "discovered" this almost a decade ago (2009, to be exact).

Looks like you didn't read up from the correct sources. You have faulty understanding.

OK.

I believe there are sentient AI toasters orbiting Neptune. I discovered them in 2009. There’s no evidence for them, but that in itself is suspicious.

Don’t believe me?

I suggest you research space toasters more.

 

[sweep_shot]

It is true, Freemasonry is nothing to do with Satanism. My friend is one of the highest ranking freemasons in the UK and I have been to a few of his masonry dinners. You will be surprised at what Freemasonry actually stands for - belief in a higher power, charity, and good deeds. Nothing to do with Satanism. Zilch.

Sure, there are favours among freemasons, but nothing to do with Satanism or worshipping the devil.

I see.

Well, there have been some whistleblowers. They say there is Satanism involved (at the top level).

 

[Technics 1210]

One of the first things you do at a Freemasonry dinner is to toast the Queen (now King of course).

 

[Abel Reames]

I have already read these ahadith. But according to the Tamim Ad Dari's meeting with Dajjal when he was swept into an unknown island where Al Jassasa was also present, I was asking about that island where he is currently held.

Khurasan and Isfahan is where he will emerge and be noticed at first. But the location of the island where he is chained up was what I wanted to hear your views about.

Sounds like Tolkein to me. Mordor. Hang on isn't Sauron represented by one eye.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Location of the island is unknown. Nobody knows for sure.

Check this: https://www.abuaminaelias.com/where-is-the-island-of-dajjal/.

Yup this is what i was alluding to. The Saudi-Yemen war over control of an island Socotra is quite interesting in this regard. One, it is located to the east of Saudia. Two, it's unclear as to why they are warring over it. It is intriguing to me.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Sounds like Tolkein to me. Mordor. Hang on isn't Sauron represented by one eye.

Did Tolkien write middle earth saga before 500 A.D? I don't think so.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] wanted to share this thing with you. apparently it has been circling around on twitter for quite a few months now and this guy has developed (whether bots or real) some sort of following who are apparently calling him to be Mahdi. I do not believe him. Seems more like fitna to me. Plus the guy claims to be defending Muslims when in ahadith, Mahdi is told to bear a name Mohammad Bin Abdullah and he would be reluctant to take the leadership baton till an eventual time when Muslims will take bait on his hand in Saudia and pledge to fight alongside him.

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/muhammad-qasim-divine-dreams-hit-020821382.html

https://divinedreams.co/

 

[Slim]

[MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] wanted to share this thing with you. apparently it has been circling around on twitter for quite a few months now and this guy has developed (whether bots or real) some sort of following who are apparently calling him to be Mahdi. I do not believe him. Seems more like fitna to me. Plus the guy claims to be defending Muslims when in ahadith, Mahdi is told to bear a name Mohammad Bin Abdullah and he would be reluctant to take the leadership baton till an eventual time when Muslims will take bait on his hand in Saudia and pledge to fight alongside him.

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/muhammad-qasim-divine-dreams-hit-020821382.html

https://divinedreams.co/

Mahdi is a myth. He has not been mentioned in the Holy Quran. He is not even mentioned in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. Even his role does not make any sense if you logically look at the end times "story". One more fun fact, Shias who believe that their 12th Imam aka Imam Mahdi is in some hiding is the son of their 11th Imam who as per historical sources did not even had a son.

When you look into the myth of Mahdi, the whole Shia sect falls apart.

By the way, even Jesus is not coming back. As per the Holy Quran, he has died.

Look at Ghamdi's videos about both topics. Muslims have corrupted their understanding of end of times due to the over reliance on man recorded Ahadith which were themselves corrupted by the books of other religions and falsification.