Highly doubt Babar Azam will make a comeback from this downfall

[Xoib]

He's batting too far in front of his stumps and that too in these conditions trying to bat with intent. Maybe bat a foot deeper and look to play late square of the wicket. He's playing without any control at the moment .

Yeah good analysis for some reason he has stopped playing the ball late as he use to, the number of airy strokes in the circle is very unlike Babar

 

[Mamoon]

By this logic, Kohli also averages only 33 in England, 36 in NZ, 35 in WI, 14 in BD.

If they both end their career today, Williamson will be slightly ahead due to higher average and better innings to runs ratio but I will agree, anything can happen. Virat might end up better too as difference isn't much. As for Babar, he is inferior than both of them in tests rn.

It is not the same logic.

Kohli averages in major countries:

Australia 51
England 33
New Zealand 36
South Africa 51
Sri Lanka 43


Williamson’s averages in major countries:

Australia 42
England 30
India 33
South Africa 21
Sri Lanka 26

Kohli is clearly better than Williamson everywhere. The massive difference in their performances in Australia and South Africa ends any debate between the two.

Williamson has also done tremendous minnow bashing against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. He has played 10 Tests against them and averages 97.

Kohli has only played 4 Tests against Bangladesh and 0 against Zimbabwe.

Apart from his home turf New Zealand, Williamson has not done better than Kohli anywhere.

Babar is inferior to Kohli and he will always be inferior, but there is no doubt that he can do better than Williamson.

 

[Kriketer]

Kholi was out of it for 2-3 years and people were demanding him to be axed and many labeled him done, was thrown out of captaincy, had issues with mgmt etc. One good tournament and people have forgotten and forgiven everything about the bad patch. It's just a tide people tend to follow, sheep among herd of sheep. Kholi is obviously a modern great but age isn't on his side, 2-3 more years of cricket or one more year of average performances and he will be done.

Babar is equally a modern great and a world class player who has performed against all sides in all kind of conditions and still has many more years. He wasn't either lucky like Kholi to have other top performers in batting so Babar always had extra responsibility and burden to carry the team with his knocks which is an added pressure. 2 bad tournaments and regular naysayers have started showing their dimentia with recalling his many top notch performances and his capabilities. Babar will be fine.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Babar is not really an opener, he bats at his correct spot #4 in test matches. In T20 cricket he was wrongly made into an opener and the middle order suffered because of it. Opening is tough in Australia because the bounce and pace friendly conditions. It is normal to loose form.
The only problem we have is the team insistence to stick to what they are doing, it is not just the openers but team selection and on field strategy as well.

As for our popular Indian fan, I agree he will not get to Kohli's level. He will never get the chance.... Pakistan plays pathetically few test matches that too mostly against weaker sides. While Kohli gets to play more than twice the test matches. You simply can't become a top player or top side without playing proper Test cricket.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Duck incoming

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Good opportunity for Babar today.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

He simply has to be positive. 15 from 10 might be gold today

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Duck incoming

dropped

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Even the keeper deliberately dropped him so he can strangle his own team. This is utterly atrocious and an affront to his bowlers

 

[Saj]

Well the beautiful straight drive is back.

Hoping......

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Another troll worthy thread that OP will regret for years to come.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Another troll worthy thread that OP will regret for years to come.

Maybe it was a jinx post.

 

[Shafi]

Babar got 2 life today but so far he is playing good.

 

[MenInG]

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[in_cutter]

Seriously guys, think about it this guy has been playing Cricket since a very young age, 7-8 years old IIRC.

Not since 12-15 years old where a majority of young players likely start off but instead since he was much younger.

The last Pakistani cricketer who I believe started that young was Sarfaraz and he went onto become a household name in Pakistan during 2017 after winning his country an ICC tournament against all odds and at the same time outlining to the world the perks of starting out so young, yes it didn't last long but the blame at that point surely was not on Sarfaraz's skills.

The problem I have with Babar is Cricket is literally in your DNA, a feat majority of your peers don't have and cannot brag about, yet you're still inferior to them, makes 0 sense really.

and If you think I'm just talking about his performances in T20 then it couldn't be further from the truth.

U19, U15, you have it all yet you're still not that good, not as good as you should be at this point of your career, it's sickening and shocking.

When he performs consistently which is once in a blue moon, those kind of performances even if they're rare are expected from him at this point given his journey and the sole reason people continue to call him a very good player, however the very next game/series he shows the world why there's a big problem going on with him.

Long story short, if you give majority of cricketers Babar's journey they will literally give you similar consistency and results which the likes of Virat Kohli, Sachin Tedulkar, Joe Root, Steven Smith, Ricky Ponting, and even Ben Stokes have given to their respective countries in recent times.

It's mind boggling stuff, he hasn't done squat for Pakistan, it's one thing to be out of form and if that was the case I wouldn't of had this in my mind for so long but you're a completely rubbish player, given the circumstances of course and that too for such a long time.

There's a fabulous 4-5 debate which Babar is regularly a part of, tell me one thing, how many times have the other three/four players in that discussion won their country consistent/pressure games as compared to Babar? How many times have those guys been "out of form" as compared to Babar?

Babar should be world class right now, some believe it already but they still doubt themselves when they start kicking themselves the next time Babar plays one of his mediocre innings no matter the format, and then continues to be mediocre for another 7 games until he starts putting up some decent scores again for a little bit when the venue or opposition changes and the vicious cycle continues, it doesn't work like this guys.

There needs to be a fine line here, Babar Azam is not a generational player IMO, he may as well be going down the U. Akmal route if I'm being brutally honest, 2 straight tournaments now you've been batting like a tailender, which other player out of the fab 5 discussion has previously done this? That's what makes it infuriating.

We'll find out soon enough if he's been out of form or just likes playing against minnows in Bilateral series.

There are top quality players and then there's Babar Azam, tough situation to be in.

In the next year or two your all eyes are on you, we will surely get our answers, which way are you headed?

Come on chap this is not good, you got all the tools and experience and to top it off the journey to back it up, what gives?

One of THE worst thread ever lol. You better go into hiding.

 

[90MPH]

Some fans have the memories of a goldfish.

Babar has been amazing for Pakistan for the past 6 years.

One small blip doesn’t change that.

 

[The_KING]

Got lucky at the start but he made it count and played a good innings that set the platform for the chase. If he plays well in the final and gets us the win, nobody is going to care about his previous failures in this tournament.

 

[shamaan]

Babar got 2 life today but so far he is playing good.

When was the second life ?

 

[LegendAli]

Playing at a SR of 110 in a T20 against England in a final.

This guy is all over the place, gets out to a simple delivery, even the commentators were taking a dig at him after the dismissal.

What a shame, pure definition of a passenger all tournament long and not to forget the tournament before this in Asia Cup, he needs to go asap.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Playing at a SR of 110 in a T20 against England in a final.

This guy is all over the place, gets out to a simple delivery, even the commentators were taking a dig at him after the dismissal.

What a shame, pure definition of a passenger all tournament long and not to forget the tournament before this in Asia Cup, he needs to go asap.

You are a sorry excuse for a fan…you don’t deserve a player like Babar Azam

What about the great Butler got out fishing to a ball he could have left alone but left his team 45-3 reeling

People that know 0 about cricket shouldn’t comment. Our fans forget the crap we have had for openers and top order in white ball cricket for the past 2 decades..ne of our batting greats even dared to bat in top 4 because they were scared of new ball. Shame on us for belittling one of the greatest batters we have produced.

Babar’s hundred against NZ in WC, knock against India in last WC, CT17 final knock all against A bowling attacks already put him way ahead of most of great batters…he is consistent, works hard and has scored runs all over the world

Babar and Rizwan have 3 100 WC T20 partnerships. Which team shows up with B or C attacks in WC?

 

[Savak]

Babar barring that game against NZ where he got a life, batted like a minnow in this world cup and even the Asia Cup.

He needs to step down from the captaincy to achieve his full potential as a batsman.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Babar barring that game against NZ where he got a life, batted like a minnow in this world cup and even the Asia Cup.

He needs to step down from the captaincy to achieve his full potential as a batsman.

He shouldn’t unless he wants to. In our society culture this isn’t as simple. This group has accomplished plenty over past few years and there is a method behind it. You are asking a WC finalist to step down from captaincy..HA that’s rich.

If he wants to give it up to Shadab sure but only in T20s. He is the best player we have hands down in ODIs and Tests and the best player should be captain when it comes to Pak cricket otherwise we can easily turn into a team of XI captains

 

[Savak]

He shouldn’t unless he wants to. In our society culture this isn’t as simple. This group has accomplished plenty over past few years and there is a method behind it. You are asking a WC finalist to step down from captaincy..HA that’s rich.

If he wants to give it up to Shadab sure but only in T20s. He is the best player we have hands down in ODIs and Tests and the best player should be captain when it comes to Pak cricket otherwise we can easily turn into a team of XI captains

People need to analyze the game a bit more. Everyone knows the team got to the WC final by luck. I can pin point 6-7 vital games for Pakistan at the big stage where Pakistan has lost because of Babar's poor defensive captaincy.

There are other alternatives to him.

 

[LegendAli]

You are a sorry excuse for a fan…you don’t deserve a player like Babar Azam

What about the great Butler got out fishing to a ball he could have left alone but left his team 45-3 reeling

People that know 0 about cricket shouldn’t comment. Our fans forget the crap we have had for openers and top order in white ball cricket for the past 2 decades..ne of our batting greats even dared to bat in top 4 because they were scared of new ball. Shame on us for belittling one of the greatest batters we have produced.

Babar’s hundred against NZ in WC, knock against India in last WC, CT17 final knock all against A bowling attacks already put him way ahead of most of great batters…he is consistent, works hard and has scored runs all over the world

Babar and Rizwan have 3 100 WC T20 partnerships. Which team shows up with B or C attacks in WC?

Forget about what I do or don't deserve, what about the reset of the cricketing world? Let's think about them.

Doesn't everyone else deserve a breathtaking player like Babar Azam that most recently averaged a whooping average of 17 at an astounding SR of 93 in a T20 World Cup? man of the tournament easily.

Do better next time.