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Hindu Rohingyas living in Bangladesh relief camps have purportedly become a soft target for Muslim Rohingyas in the country. Both have taken shelter after coming from Myanmar but the difference is in the numbers, and that is the key.

Hindu Rohingya women say they were forced to remove sindoor, break bangles and even tie the Puja calls herself Rabia now- the change happened this month. She is a Hindu Rohingya who left Myanmar in hope of a refuge.

But circumstances turned her life upside down. Puja, now Rabia, lost her husband to violence in the last week of August in Myanmar. She says he was not killed by the Army but by men clad in black with their faces hidden, who were abusing in the name of religion. Theoman says her husband and entire family were shot in front of her but she was left alive to live as a captive.

"They took us to the forest and said I would have to read namaz or they would release me... My sindoor was removed and my religious shakha pola bangles broken. I was told I would be allowed to live only if I changed my religion. I was made to wear burqa and stay with them to learn their traditions for almost three weeks. I was made to read namaz... I had to say Allah, but my heart was beating for Bhagwan... My co-dwellers started searching for me and came to know that I was living in a Muslim camp."

The red saree is the only one she has now and her three-year-old son has no clothes at all. This reporter met many more such women in the Hindu Rohingya camp in Kotupalong area of Cox's Bazar district of Bangladesh.

If Puja became Rabia, Rica was being turned into Sadia. Twenty-eight-year-old Rica Dhar adjusted her orange saree to feed her year-old son as she narrated a similar tragic tale.

"On Friday (August 25) they entered all the Hindu residences and attacked. First the mobile phones were taken away and then men were tied and beaten brutally. My husband worked as a goldsmith. They took away all my jewellery and began beating me. All Hindus were identified and taken to a nearby hill. They were then killed in a row. Only eight women were allowed to stay among them mostly young and beautiful. They were told 'You will have to turn Muslim and marry us' We had no option but to surrender and go with them... We were taken to the forest and left without food to weaken us mentally also. Then we were brought to a camp in Bangladesh... Once my Hindu relatives heard about it they brought me to this place."

Both Rica and Puja say there were six more women besides them who shared their fate. After they could not be traced anywhere in Myanmar or Bangladesh, they were identified at the Kotupalong Rohingya camp where they were kept under close watch by those who were allegedly executing this forcible conversion.

The government officials were clueless about what was going on till India Today Group brought this to their notice. "We do not have any such information," said Md. Ali Hossain, Deputy Commissioner of Cox's Bazar. "If it has occurred, we will take necessary action." Men hailing from the same Rakhine state went out in search of these women and allegedly faced torture themselves.

Vijay Ram Pal says he was assaulted during his quest. "We are victims of Burma army and now we are being tortured here also. Eight women who were here from Myanmar they were forcibly taken to another camp and were asked to convert to Islam. Thankfully, a person here in the camp came to know about this saved them," he said.

Puja alias Rabia can now breathe easy. "I am back in the Hindu camp for the past three days after being rescued by my some women," she says. Around five lakh Rohingyas have entered Bangladeshi territory and are scattered in different parts of this district.

Among them, a significant number is of Hindus. When this reporter apprised Bangladesh's information minister Hasanul Haq Inu about the situation, he promised action. "The news is very bad and astounding... we have taken all measures to put Rohingya Hindu, Muslim, Christian and Buddhist families in separate camps," he said. "We will be investigating this and we will be very tough."

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...or-read-namaz-bangladesh-camps/1/1055983.html
 
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Now I think this news can't be denied [MENTION=144269]ToeCrusher2[/MENTION]
 
I've been saying it since the beginning: only bad things can happen if we let millions of any group en masse, leave alone these Rohingyas.

Bangladesh is the one in the direct line of fire though, not us.
 
The Rohingya Muslims who are not radicalised devils like these are the ones who ultimately suffer due to such people..

I firmly believe now we should not let any refugees and should deport all the illegal refugees we have in our country hopefully Modi can work on that will be great news if he can do that.. We can't let emotions rule over us need to be practical now..
 
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One of the major problems with lack of action from the world community is that this leaves a vacuum for extremist groups to step in. Al Qaeda took up the baton in Bosnia when the UN allowed the slaughter of Muslims by the Sebs, and they put out the call for Jihadists to find their way to Burma just last week. It the rest of us turn a blind eye then we are complicit in allowing these groups a free run at defending the Rohingyas and bringing their warped ideology with them.
 
Vayun shak

Next insulting post and bans
 
Why are there Rohingya Hindus? Does that mean all of Rohingyas are once upon a time Hindus who converted to Islam?

Being the same people, you would think Rohingya Hindus and Muslims would live peacefully. But no, religion is more important than blood relation.
 
If this story is true, and the chances are that its rubbish but even if its true we need to condemn it but to blame 400,000 for the actions of a tiny minority shows how evil the Islamphobes have become. So all the Indians are happy to take the blame for the murder in Gujrat by Modi and his fascists. Are you happy to be lumped in as murderers of muslims in Ind because it was done by your fellow Hindus?
 
If this story is true, and the chances are that its rubbish but even if its true we need to condemn it but to blame 400,000 for the actions of a tiny minority shows how evil the Islamphobes have become. So all the Indians are happy to take the blame for the murder in Gujrat by Modi and his fascists. Are you happy to be lumped in as murderers of muslims in Ind because it was done by your fellow Hindus?

All we want is no Rohingya in India.
 
If this story is true, and the chances are that its rubbish but even if its true we need to condemn it but to blame 400,000 for the actions of a tiny minority shows how evil the Islamphobes have become. So all the Indians are happy to take the blame for the murder in Gujrat by Modi and his fascists. Are you happy to be lumped in as murderers of muslims in Ind because it was done by your fellow Hindus?

Hindus have been killed and converted and looted in india since centuries . Its not even a debate. Hindus also got killed in kashmir , godhra everywhere. And its not pakistan problem of gujrat so we should not even debate about it.Every life be it kaafir or muslim has equal value. We should value human life , not any particular stone age religion be it anyone.
 
If this story is true, and the chances are that its rubbish but even if its true we need to condemn it but to blame 400,000 for the actions of a tiny minority shows how evil the Islamphobes have become. So all the Indians are happy to take the blame for the murder in Gujrat by Modi and his fascists. Are you happy to be lumped in as murderers of muslims in Ind because it was done by your fellow Hindus?

How do you know one way or the other? This stuff is happening in some mountain in Burma and none of us are wise.

It's just your bias talking.
 
Now I think this news can't be denied [MENTION=144269]ToeCrusher2[/MENTION]
Fake news because (a) Indian source and (b) Muslims are the villains of the story.
 
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Fake news because (a) Indian source and (b) Muslims are the villains of the story.

Yeah ,there is a news by Guardian on graves of Hindus in that area, Brit source does that make it true now?
 
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I have not read or assess the story, but I am on victims' side.
And everyone should support the victims.
So please do your best not to be a bigot.
 
I just hope Indian govt keep those Radicalised Rohingyas out of India. Last thing we want is religious fanatic running riots in our country
 
Yeah ,there is a news by Guardian on graves of Hindus in that area, Brit source does that make it true now?

Bro, i don't know what the truth is but in that article they themselves are saying that,

"Access to the area by journalists as well as human rights workers and aid workers is largely restricted and Reuters could not independently verify the report."

Link-https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/25/myanmar-bodies-of-28-hindu-villagers-found-in-rakhine-army-claims
 
Why do you hate Muslim refugees so much? You talk like a rabid Hindutva Supporter.

Im not much of a religious guy. I just want peace in my country, no harm for thinking about that. Rohingyas dont have eternal right that they should be given entry to India
 
He is being sarcastic.

Sorry was slow to pick up :P

Bro, i don't know what the truth is but in that article they themselves are saying that,

"Access to the area by journalists as well as human rights workers and aid workers is largely restricted and Reuters could not independently verify the report."

Link-https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/25/myanmar-bodies-of-28-hindu-villagers-found-in-rakhine-army-claims

True ,but i waited a day for that to be refuted or something similar coming out,and this came out,so the benefit of the doubt will go in their favor.
 
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How do you know one way or the other? This stuff is happening in some mountain in Burma and none of us are wise.

It's just your bias talking.

The reason i have become suspicious of these stories is because too many turn out not to be true and by the time the truth comes out the damage is done. If its true then it needs to be condemned and declared as evil. But as your fellow Inds were quick to condemn the 400,000 or so victims of Burmese ethnic cleansing because of the these terrible crimes by a few, do you take responsibility for the murder by Modi and his Hindu fascist in Gujrat, which are not allegations but are facts.
 
People should be careful of reading such baloney propaganda.

It's really shameful actually and disgusting from BJP supporters to malign these people.
 
They had the audacity to do that in a refugee camp where media from all over the world is watching them.

The headline is misleading. The report describes that those 2 women along with 6 others were abducted in Myanmar and brought all the way to refugee camp, where some people who already knew them rescued them from those miscreants. with out any hue and cry they let those women lose while the rescuers did not bother to complain to any one else either.

Am i missing something?
 
The reason i have become suspicious of these stories is because too many turn out not to be true and by the time the truth comes out the damage is done. If its true then it needs to be condemned and declared as evil. But as your fellow Inds were quick to condemn the 400,000 or so victims of Burmese ethnic cleansing because of the these terrible crimes by a few, do you take responsibility for the murder by Modi and his Hindu fascist in Gujrat, which are not allegations but are facts.

Myth. We don't know whether they are true or false to begin with, or whether they're true or false to end with. Nobody is going to follow-up on this story to tell us.

And the 'damage' is Muslims and non-Muslims having a pointless go at each other and ruining the decorum of PP, in this context.
 
This reporter met many more such women in the Hindu Rohingya camp in Kotupalong area of Cox's Bazar district of Bangladesh.

First, the title misleads that those crimes were actually committed at refugee camps by some of the refugees and then it states that this forced conversion thing is prevalent on a much larger scale.

Has this reporter also made an electronic report on such a grim situation which has scores of victims?

I am sorry but India Today is known for its extreme pro establishment and right wing approach. If the incident was reported by some credible media like Hindustan Times i would not have taken it with a pinch of salt.

If true then those extremists would hurt the cause of other thousands of victims because it will erode world's sympathy towards them.
 
Before people start degrading thousands of other innocent yet brutalized Rohingyas , i thought i should share this news from more credible sources. I read it yesterday but did not feel the need to share it here because many of us already know the extent of violence on these people.

U.N. medics see evidence of rape in Myanmar army 'cleansing' campaign

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ar-army-cleansing-campaign-idUSKCN1BZ06X?il=0

Doctors report horrifying gang rape attacks on Rohingya women

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...gees-burma-rape-sexual-violence-a7965251.html
 
God only knows how many people are listening to morons like these :facepalm:

Watch 1:57 onwards.

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Myth. We don't know whether they are true or false to begin with, or whether they're true or false to end with. Nobody is going to follow-up on this story to tell us.

And the 'damage' is Muslims and non-Muslims having a pointless go at each other and ruining the decorum of PP, in this context.

I wasnt the one that started the attacks. I want all people to live in peace. I hate the so called Islamists more than you will ever know but i am sick of all whole groups bring tarred by the actions of small minority and then used as a stick to beat all of us. Muslims have rotten apples like all groups but somehow, its seen as indicative of our lesser morals.
 
First, the title misleads that those crimes were actually committed at refugee camps by some of the refugees and then it states that this forced conversion thing is prevalent on a much larger scale.

Has this reporter also made an electronic report on such a grim situation which has scores of victims?

I am sorry but India Today is known for its extreme pro establishment and right wing approach. If the incident was reported by some credible media like Hindustan Times i would not have taken it with a pinch of salt.

If true then those extremists would hurt the cause of other thousands of victims because it will erode world's sympathy towards them.
It's good to see you put your faith in Hindustan times, a paper owned by the opposition in India. Anyway here is another new piece for you to deny
http://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/bangladesh/1399190

I won't be surprised if you tell us they cannot be trusted
 
It's good to see you put your faith in Hindustan times, a paper owned by the opposition in India. Anyway here is another new piece for you to deny
http://m.bdnews24.com/en/detail/bangladesh/1399190

I won't be surprised if you tell us they cannot be trusted

The Hindus alleged Rohingyas murdered the man following a dispute over money the Muslims took as loan back home in Myanmar.

Seems to be a gang thing similar to the criminals who charge Syrians to sail across Mediterranean. Not a communal thing.

At least 10 Hindus described the attackers as '**** Party', who covered their face with black clothes and used Rohingya language along with Burmese and Rakhine.

This further puts doubts because those people could well be Buddhists or army to instigate communal violence and malign Rohingyas.

A Hindu victim of the conflict, requesting anonymity for safety, said, "The Burmese usually don’t know the Rohingya language. Though the attackers covered their face with dark clothes, they seemed to be Rohingyas."

The victim is not himself sure.

Another Hindu man said, "No one cared about the Hindus there when the fighting erupted between those two sides."

This man says they were caught between the cross fire.

In conclusion, the report itself relies on unsure victims and analogies.

That's why it is difficult to ascertain the veracity of Burmese army's claims when they don't allow impartial media and UN inside the conflict zone.

I am sure there will be criminal elements within those Rohingyas too, just as most societies or races have but this should not make the lives of other majority even scarier.
 
^

Besides not a thing in that report which substantiates forced conversions of women on a massive scale by militants.
 
God only knows how many people are listening to morons like these :facepalm:

Watch 1:57 onwards.

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There will always be rotten apples man.

One thing is crystal clear and I have posted this in the past, Islam is everything that Sanatana Dharma or other Dharmic religions isn't. Islam is an Arab religion. Different customs and different God. Islam is not just a religion. It has strict rules and their laws are different. Very rigid I should say.

The only way for India to progress is for people to not take religion seriously. Religion should never be given priority and should be kept with in 4 walls. No outward display of any religion should be allowed.

If everyone starts taking their religion seriously, there will be many many conflicts. You simply cannot live peacefully.

I hope India will become religion free in public and people only follow it inside their homes.
 
Why do you hate Muslim refugees so much? You talk like a rabid Hindutva Supporter.

So if anyone doesnt want refugees who will suck our resources which can be better deployed to uplift our poor people is Hindutva supporter.

Oh i am not even talking about the security aspect.
 
[MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION] as long as poverty and illiteracy remains. religion will remain strong.
 
First, the title misleads that those crimes were actually committed at refugee camps by some of the refugees and then it states that this forced conversion thing is prevalent on a much larger scale.

Has this reporter also made an electronic report on such a grim situation which has scores of victims?

I am sorry but India Today is known for its extreme pro establishment and right wing approach. If the incident was reported by some credible media like Hindustan Times i would not have taken it with a pinch of salt.

If true then those extremists would hurt the cause of other thousands of victims because it will erode world's sympathy towards them.

India today is not right wing or Pro establishment.
 
First, the title misleads that those crimes were actually committed at refugee camps by some of the refugees and then it states that this forced conversion thing is prevalent on a much larger scale.

Has this reporter also made an electronic report on such a grim situation which has scores of victims?

I am sorry but India Today is known for its extreme pro establishment and right wing approach. If the incident was reported by some credible media like Hindustan Times i would not have taken it with a pinch of salt.

If true then those extremists would hurt the cause of other thousands of victims because it will erode world's sympathy towards them.
Found an Hindustan times article for you to refute

http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-n...indu-graves/story-JPjDOsfUUJYQOU3wuUOIYO.html
 
People should be careful of reading such baloney propaganda.

It's really shameful actually and disgusting from BJP supporters to malign these people.

The problem is we have seen such attempts to revise history every single time there has been Hindutva led riots in India like Gujarat or Ayodhya. After the initial horror, there is always a concerted effort to produce the story that Muslims initiated the riots which led to retaliation. It's like clockwork.

It becomes like the boy who cried wolf. Even when the story might have genuine elements to it, people distrust the source because everyone is now expecting it. Every. Single. Time.
 
I have heard that aliens have landed in New delhi and are being hidden under the red fort..
 
The problem is we have seen such attempts to revise history every single time there has been Hindutva led riots in India like Gujarat or Ayodhya. After the initial horror, there is always a concerted effort to produce the story that Muslims initiated the riots which led to retaliation. It's like clockwork.

It becomes like the boy who cried wolf. Even when the story might have genuine elements to it, people distrust the source because everyone is now expecting it. Every. Single. Time.

Rohingyas are Indians?They are being attacked by Indians?

Who are these people who distrust?

What blame was put on Muslims for Gujarat and Ayodhya?Which part of it is untrue?
 
Rohingyas are Indians?They are being attacked by Indians?

Who are these people who distrust?

What blame was put on Muslims for Gujarat and Ayodhya?Which part of it is untrue?

The relevant part is the Hindutva cyber warriors are always involved in producing after the event justifications for ethnic cleansing in all the cases mentioned by producing stories of 'Muslim provocation'. A google search should provide you with plenty of examples if you need specifics on all Ayodhya, Gujarat etc.
 
The relevant part is the Hindutva cyber warriors are always involved in producing after the event justifications for ethnic cleansing in all the cases mentioned by producing stories of 'Muslim provocation'. A google search should provide you with plenty of examples if you need specifics on all Ayodhya, Gujarat etc.

What has Hindutva got to do with Rohingyas in Burma?The Burmese are Buddhists.Dont know whar are you talking about.

Why dont you post the justifications and which one is untrue?
 
What has Hindutva got to do with Rohingyas in Burma?The Burmese are Buddhists.Dont know whar are you talking about.

Why dont you post the justifications and which one is untrue?

Anti-Muslim sentiment is the common factor as you well know. Read any thread on the topics mentioned and it will be obvious enough, if you want to deny it then bump any of those threads and we can look at them in detail.
 
Anti-Muslim sentiment is the common factor as you well know. Read any thread on the topics mentioned and it will be obvious enough, if you want to deny it then bump any of those threads and we can look at them in detail.

He simply asked what has India/Hindus got to do with whats happening in Burma. How is India in anyway responsible for the massacre in Rakhine?
If India isnt responsible in your view(if you for once see things without religious) then you should know India is also not responsible for taking in any refugees Muslims or hindus or atheist. We just dont want any. END OF STORY.
 
No, actually it is an AFP article which i have already read on a Pakistani newspaper but it does not say anything about forced conversions.
Again AFP quotes Myanmar military and their preceding news article regarding 28 dead bodies mentions that those Burmese army's claims could not be independently verified.

AFP is one of the most credible news agencies.
 
Anti-Muslim sentiment is the common factor as you well know. Read any thread on the topics mentioned and it will be obvious enough, if you want to deny it then bump any of those threads and we can look at them in detail.

Question is whether India is involved in the events in Rakhine state?If not then why is India responsible for taking any refugees, irrespective of their religion?

Hindutva Ayodhya Gujarat etc has nothing to do here.
 
He simply asked what has India/Hindus got to do with whats happening in Burma. How is India in anyway responsible for the massacre in Rakhine?
If India isnt responsible in your view(if you for once see things without religious) then you should know India is also not responsible for taking in any refugees Muslims or hindus or atheist. We just dont want any. END OF STORY.

I know what he said, just as you know what I said. I am not going to repeat myself, the answers to all these points are in my previous posts. The readers can draw their own conclusions.
 
I know what he said, just as you know what I said. I am not going to repeat myself, the answers to all these points are in my previous posts. The readers can draw their own conclusions.

In other words you dont have an answer.

And also none of Indian here justified as to what is happening in Rakhine, most of us do sympathise with their situations and wish them speedy recovery. We do want them to get chance to live freely in their homeland.

The only differences we have is, we do not want to burden our economy nor take any chances of allowing more refugees, which could create a situation where radicals could sneak in disguised as refugee. Because of this you're labelling us Hinduvta and what not, and ridiculing our genuine concerns and calling us 'anti-muslims'

Again, just give us one legitimate reason as why is this India's responsibility to take in rohingyas, and why do they have to leave Bangladesh and cross border (BD-India) illegally, why cant they stay in Bangladesh and find a solution with BD govt and UN, instead of crossing over and putting themselves at risk of getting caught in border conflict.
 
In other words you dont have an answer.

And also none of Indian here justified as to what is happening in Rakhine, most of us do sympathise with their situations and wish them speedy recovery. We do want them to get chance to live freely in their homeland.

The only differences we have is, we do not want to burden our economy nor take any chances of allowing more refugees, which could create a situation where radicals could sneak in disguised as refugee. Because of this you're labelling us Hinduvta and what not, and ridiculing our genuine concerns and calling us 'anti-muslims'

Again, just give us one legitimate reason as why is this India's responsibility to take in rohingyas, and why do they have to leave Bangladesh and cross border (BD-India) illegally, why cant they stay in Bangladesh and find a solution with BD govt and UN, instead of crossing over and putting themselves at risk of getting caught in border conflict.

I never at any point said that it is India's responsibility. I merely pointed out that similar to Gujarat and Ayodhya and other Hindu rampages against minorities in India, it was predictable that there would soon follow stories that the riots were instigated by the victims. That is what happened sure as night follows day. I'm not saying this is all some conspiracy by the way, for all I know it might all be another massive coincidence.
 
I never at any point said that it is India's responsibility. I merely pointed out that similar to Gujarat and Ayodhya and other Hindu rampages against minorities in India, it was predictable that there would soon follow stories that the riots were instigated by the victims. That is what happened sure as night follows day. I'm not saying this is all some conspiracy by the way, for all I know it might all be another massive coincidence.

Ayodhya and Gujarat are in India.Rakhine isnt.No Indian is involved.Hindus are involved.Hindus have nothing to do with it neither does India.So why drag India here?

You still havent told me which stories were lies.
 
Ayodhya and Gujarat are in India.Rakhine isnt.No Indian is involved.Hindus are involved.Hindus have nothing to do with it neither does India.So why drag India here?

You still havent told me which stories were lies.

That is not relevant to what I posted, neither did I claim any stories were lies. Please re-read my posts if you are still confused.
 
Peaceful Rohingyas. We should let them in :/

I dont see why we shouldn't let them in, if they are in need to come to India for their survival. If these muslim refugees are willing to work for the betterment of India there should be no issues
 
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I dont see why we shouldn't let them in, if they are in need to come to India for their survival. If these muslim refugees are willing to work for the betterment of India there should be no issues.

That's exactly the reason why we shouldn't let them in. We have enough nutcases already
 
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The relevant part is the Hindutva cyber warriors are always involved in producing after the event justifications for ethnic cleansing in all the cases mentioned by producing stories of 'Muslim provocation'. A google search should provide you with plenty of examples if you need specifics on all Ayodhya, Gujarat etc.

Ayodhya - Scientific evidence vindicated how the Babri Masjid was built by destroying one of the holiest hindu shrines. Muslim community refuses to accept reality and has no remorse nor do they even think this was wrong.
Gujrat - Started by Muslims by burning 69 Hindu pilgrims.

Question: Is there any region in the world where Muslims have lived peacefully with non-muslims for a considerable amount of time? Especially the Idol worshipping kind. Think about it for a moment.
 
Ayodhya - Scientific evidence vindicated how the Babri Masjid was built by destroying one of the holiest hindu shrines. Muslim community refuses to accept reality and has no remorse nor do they even think this was wrong.
Gujrat - Started by Muslims by burning 69 Hindu pilgrims.

Question: Is there any region in the world where Muslims have lived peacefully with non-muslims for a considerable amount of time? Especially the Idol worshipping kind. Think about it for a moment.

India.
 
Question: Is there any region in the world where Muslims have lived peacefully with non-muslims for a considerable amount of time? Especially the Idol worshipping kind. Think about it for a moment.

The only time in India I can think of is the Mughal period - especially under Akbar, Jahangir and Shah Jahan - but popular opinion even here on PP is that they diluted Islam and played by their own rules, so that might have helped.

"Din-i-Ilahi" was what it was called, IIRC.
 
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