How big would Pakistan have to beat Bangladesh to surpass on points table?

[Bhaijaan]

It seems like NZ is getting a phainty here which is actually good for Pakistan. The worse they lose here, the less would the GAO be in terms of NRR.

It would be interesting to see NZ’s NRR after this. I expect their NRR to take a MASSIVE hit today

SCENARIOS:

Pakistan make 308, bowl Bangladesh out for 0. Win by 308 runs.
Pakistan make 350, bowl Bangladesh out for 38. Win by 312 runs.
Pakistan make 400, bowl Bangladesh out for 84. Win by 316 runs.
Pakistan make 450, bowl Bangladesh out for 129. Win by 321 runs.
Pakistan make 500, bowl Bangladesh out for 175. Win by 325 runs.

If Pakistan bowl first, there is no mathematical possibility of them making it through.

 

[Chokli]

Unfortunately Pakistan will lose Friday.

 

[NabstarSan]

Pakistan will most likely lose this Friday.

 

[ARK Rafay]

We'll know the exact numbers very soon. But it's close to impossible

 

[Dead Ball]

Pakistan making it through NRR is extremely unlikely... I think I read some where that Pakistan will have to win by a margin of 300 runs or thereabouts...

 

[Stewie]

It’s a monumental task. Virtually impossible

 

[Saj]

Forget nrr.

Ridiculous numbers.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

It's over. Time for the suffering to begin. The hope has killed me.

 

[ARK Rafay]

It's over. Time for the suffering to begin. The hope has killed me.

Dark Night Rises

 

[AdamM97]

Forget nrr.

Ridiculous numbers.

We should've taken NRR into consideration when we played against Afghanistan. That WI games really f'd us up.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Forget nrr.

Ridiculous numbers.

NZ is losing by a huge margin today. It will dent their NRR considerably bro

 

[AdamM97]

NZ is losing by a huge margin today. It will dent their NRR considerably bro

I don't think that will be enough.

 

[Madplayer]

Its impossible now.

By the way why have they not looked at the number of matches won in case of equal points? Why this stupid NRR criteria?

 

[sweep_shot]

Let this game finish first. We can't determine this until NZ-Eng game is over.

 

[nads_rocks]

Its over, accept it, the team was not good enough and did not deserve the top 4 spot. They are themselves to blame, because they never concentrate on the basics or have a think tank or strategy, they just go out there to run around put their hands in the pockets smile and chew gum and pretend they can hold a bat.

 

[nextover666666]

Time to think about world t20 next year Asia cup and u19 World Cup all next year and of course World Cup 2023 with the hope we can finally end this streak lol

 

[Kianig89]

Adios Shaheens

 

[IMMY69]

400
14 all out

 

[Hectic]

Its impossible now.

By the way why have they not looked at the number of matches won in case of equal points? Why this stupid NRR criteria?

That's the first tiebreaker. Then comes NRR.

 

[rhony]

The differential has to be about about 430 runs. So if NZ loses by 100 runs, Pak has to win by 300 runs I think

 

[AdamM97]

New Zealand are playing for the NRR at the moment.

 

[Asif321]

It’s not happening
300+ runs win

 

[Slog]

300+ runs

 

[sweep_shot]

New Zealand are playing for the NRR at the moment.

They should. They probably can't win this now.

 

[Madplayer]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

 

[rhony]

Its impossible now.

By the way why have they not looked at the number of matches won in case of equal points? Why this stupid NRR criteria?

Both NZ and Pak will have equal wins and same points if Pak wins against BD. Second criteria is NRR. Third is head to head

 

[Dead Ball]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

That's impossible. They actually have a decent batting line up.

Best chance is batting first and go all guns blazing by putting up 460-470...their bowling/fielding is weak and Pakistan has nothing to lose...

Then get BD out within 160-170...

Looks very unlikely but that is the only way...

 

[theariezman]

Well Pakistan fought back quite well after the detrimental start but it wasn't on right time ....always dependent on other performances.

Now wait for 2023.

 

[Green Patriot]

Not happening.
Our worldcup is over.Thanks for your good wishes though.

 

[Stewie]

Pakistan will have to bat first, score 500, and bowl out BD for 150, I am guessing something like that.

And if they bat first, we are literally out

 

[dildilpak]

Someone mentioned on Cricinfo that net margin of 430 runs between Pak & NZ. So if NZ get out at 150, we need to beat Bangla by 280 run margin. if they get out at 200, we have to defeat Bangla by 330 I am guessing

 

[Plumb]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

this must be breaking all the records of being positive

 

[BreadPakoda]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

Wasim Akram and co. could have done it. Not sure about the present bunch. Amir needs to bowl a terrific opening spell.

 

[zee-za-man]

New Zealand's net run rate will be affected if they lose by anything more than 50 runs. Their players are trying their best to close the gap. Net run rate will be assessed only after the match is finished.

 

[Tridibans_16]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

Not really, as per Cricinfo, Pakistan needed NZ to get all out before 150. Now, if Pakistan bowls on Friday, They need to get Bangladesh all out at 0 and get the runs in 0 overs (or 4 wides or something).

Only theoretical chance, if Pakistan bats first and beat BD by atleast 350 runs.

 

[Shafi]

Hopefully this will teach us a big lesson when comes to selecting players for World Cup, preparation for World Cup and playing matches at World Cup.

 

[ARK Rafay]

400
14 all out

That will be the greatest game in the history of sports

 

[AdamM97]

Not really, as per Cricinfo, Pakistan needed NZ to get all out before 150. Now, if Pakistan bowls on Friday, They need to get Bangladesh all out at 0 and get the runs in 0 overs (or 4 wides or something).

Only theoretical chance, if Pakistan bats first and beat BD by atleast 350 runs.

Oh lord.

 

[Tridibans_16]

New Zealand's net run rate will be affected if they lose by anything more than 50 runs. Their players are trying their best to close the gap. Net run rate will be assessed only after the match is finished.

Bro, even if NZ gets all out just about now, Pakistan would need something like a 335 runs victory.

 

[IMMY69]

That will be the greatest game in the history of sports

Maybe stick a fiver on it ��

 

[Savak]

What about if Pakistan has to chase? How much will we need to chase the total by?

 

[zee-za-man]

Bro, even if NZ gets all out just about now, Pakistan would need something like a 335 runs victory.

Did I ask you?

 

[dildilpak]

New Zealand's net run rate will be affected if they lose by anything more than 50 runs. Their players are trying their best to close the gap. Net run rate will be assessed only after the match is finished.

Doesnt matter, the gap between NZ & Pak is too wide to be made up. Pak should start buying air tickets back home

 

[crazyfaizee]

pak should score 600 Runs

try to Hit six on every ball
and bowl bangla out on 250

 

[AdamM97]

Can we at least get to watch Pakistan win on friday? Or is that too much to ask?

 

[ARK Rafay]

The best chance for Pakistan is to bowl first and get Bangladesh all out for around 50 runs and chase it down in 6 overs.

1st ball - "M Amir to bowl from Pavilion end. That's full, swinging away. Tamim nicks it and Sarfraz Ahmed takes a blinder. That's 1st wicket off the very 1st ball for Pakistan"

2nd ball- "Amir to Shakib. Full again it looked as if it's gonna swing away again but it held it's line and that's bowled! Middle Stump dislocated!"

3rd ball- "Amir on a Hattrick now. Mushfiq will face the ball. That came back in sharp, Mushfiq was nowhere to play that and that's plumb. LBW OUT! And that's the Hattrick for M Amir!"

4th ball- "You know the drill reader "

 

[Napa]

Its impossible now.

By the way why have they not looked at the number of matches won in case of equal points? Why this stupid NRR criteria?

The reason "matches won" is a poor criteria is that, for example there are two teams, one with 2 washed out games and another with one win and one loss. Then the second team goes through. That is unfair to the first team as it could have won one or both of the washed out games. NRR on the other hand is completely based on what a team does on the field.

 

[Shafi]

No point to try to increase NRR now since we we never serious even Afghanistan game. We were never concern about NRR as if winning a game is enough.
Instead we should try to beat BD and fix our domestic system, select players through merit and learn to play as a team.

 

[saintgrace]

pak should score 600 Runs

try to Hit six on every ball
and bowl bangla out on 250

if they can do this than they are real tigers. BD should look for another icon for their team.

 

[crazyfaizee]

1996 .wasim akrm cost us WC
1999 wasim akrm cost us Wc
2003 grouping cost us world cup
2011 Indo pak diplomacy cost us world cup
2015 Rahat ali cost us world cup
2019 Malik cost us world cup

 

[Madplayer]

this must be breaking all the records of being positive

) i guess you didnt see the one below

pak should score 600 Runs

try to Hit six on every ball
and bowl bangla out on 250

) ) Good lord.

 

[saintgrace]

1st ball - "M Amir to bowl from Pavilion end. That's full, swinging away. Tamim nicks it and Sarfraz Ahmed takes a blinder. That's 1st wicket off the very 1st ball for Pakistan"

2nd ball- "Amir to Shakib. Full again it looked as if it's gonna swing away again but it held it's line and that's bowled! Middle Stump dislocated!"

3rd ball- "Amir on a Hattrick now. Mushfiq will face the ball. That came back in sharp, Mushfiq was nowhere to play that and that's plumb. LBW OUT! And that's the Hattrick for M Amir!"

4th ball- "You know the drill reader "

After ten's ball, the same scenario repeated in Semi against Austria, than final against India.

 

[AdamM97]

1996 .wasim akrm cost us WC
1999 wasim akrm cost us Wc
2003 grouping cost us world cup
2011 Indo pak diplomacy cost us world cup
2015 Rahat ali cost us world cup
2019 Malik cost us world cup

Curious, how did Indo-Pak diplomacy cost us the 2011 World Cup?

 

[Madplayer]

1st ball - "M Amir to bowl from Pavilion end. That's full, swinging away. Tamim nicks it and Sarfraz Ahmed takes a blinder. That's 1st wicket off the very 1st ball for Pakistan"

2nd ball- "Amir to Shakib. Full again it looked as if it's gonna swing away again but it held it's line and that's bowled! Middle Stump dislocated!"

3rd ball- "Amir on a Hattrick now. Mushfiq will face the ball. That came back in sharp, Mushfiq was nowhere to play that and that's plumb. LBW OUT! And that's the Hattrick for M Amir!"

4th ball- "You know the drill reader "

BD 0/10 in 10 balls.

Pakistan comes in to bat. Fakhar takes guard

1st ball - "Mustafizur Rehman comes in to bowl. And thats a wide. Pakistan win by 10 wickets with 50 overs to spare"

 

[sweep_shot]

pak should score 600 Runs

try to Hit six on every ball
and bowl bangla out on 250

Funny!

 

[someone21]

1996 .wasim akrm cost us WC
1999 wasim akrm cost us Wc
2003 grouping cost us world cup
2011 Indo pak diplomacy cost us world cup
2015 Rahat ali cost us world cup
2019 Malik cost us world cup

Yea, Pakistan were favorites for all the WC, but only lost due to those silly errors. Really stupid of you.....

 

[jnaveen1980]

As hard as Sarfraz Ahmed getting a washboard ab

 

[hussain.r97]

Score 450, and restrict them to 125

 

[sweep_shot]

Yea, Pakistan were favorites for all the WC, but only lost due to those silly errors. Really stupid of you.....

It will not be surprising if he actually believes that.

 

[dildilpak]

BD 0/10 in 10 balls.

Pakistan comes in to bat. Fakhar takes guard

1st ball - "Mustafizur Rehman comes in to bowl. And thats a wide. Pakistan win by 10 wickets with 50 overs to spare"

Hahaha!

 

[shockbound]

Yea, Pakistan were favorites for all the WC, but only lost due to those silly errors. Really stupid of you.....

1999, 2011 only.
But I feel bad about this one because we were a performing unit in this WC and are out due to politics, luck and lack of team's situation-awareness.

 

[Shafi]

No point to try to increase NRR now since we we never serious even Afghanistan game. We were never concern about NRR as if winning a game is enough.
Instead we should try to beat BD and fix our domestic system, select players through merit and learn to play as a team.

 

[UmarMalik]

U guys are talking about big margins as if we’re playing against China. Bangladesh is good of a team as Pakistan. I’d be surprised if we actually beat them.

 

[sunny85]

Ok what if in tommorws match Afghanistan beat West Indies by 400 runs. Will New Zealand run rate drop below Pakistan.

And Pakistan score 560 batting first while Bangladesh is bundled out for 0 in 10 balls. 6 wickets for Amir and 4 by Afridi.

 

[Kroll]

pak should score 600 Runs

try to Hit six on every ball
and bowl bangla out on 250

Treat the match as three separate high scoring games of two T20's and one T10 and get to 500. Then bundle out Bangla for 150.

 

[Bhaijaan]

NZ’s NRR has taken a MASSIVE hit today as i predicted.

It’s come down from +1.0 to +0.175

Now what does Pakistan have to do? [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

 

[basitmian]

What about chasing if Bang got out at 100runs

 

[zee-za-man]

NZ’s NRR has taken a MASSIVE hit today as i predicted.

It’s come down from +1.0 to +0.175

Now what does Pakistan have to do? [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

IT was +0.572

 

[Minnowbasher]

Pakistan have to win by 316 runs

 

[Saj]

So this is what Pakistan need to do to qualify for the semi-finals:

If Pakistan make 350, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 38
If Pakistan score 400, they need to bowl Bangladesh out for 84
If Bangladesh bat first, there is no chance of Pakistan qualifying

 

[BleedGreen]

We need to beat Bang by 316 runs if we score 400. )

 

[light]

Bit dissapointed that Sarfraz won't be going on to becoming a PM in 20 years.

 

[BleedGreen]

We need to score 500 to have a chance

 

[Stewie]

Going by recent Pakistani luck, BD is winning toss and batting first

 

[hussain.r97]

Qualification scenarios for Pakistan. We have to bat first, if we lose the toss and Bangladesh bat, the toss will knock us out. If we bat first -

Pakistan - 350; Bangladesh - 38 all out
Pakistan - 400; Bangladesh - 84 all out
Pakistan - 450; Bangladesh - 129 all out
Pakistan - 500; Bangladesh - 175 all out

In short, the boys will be on the plane back to Pakistan this weekend

 

[Mp812]

For Pakistan to qualify:
Beat Bangladesh by 311 runs after scoring 350
Beat Bangladesh by 316 runs after scoring 400
Beat Bangladesh by 321 runs after scoring 450
If Bangladesh opt to bat first on Friday, Pakistan stand eliminated even before a ball is bowled.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

316 runs

 

[DeadlyYorker]

NZ’s NRR has taken a MASSIVE hit today as i predicted.

It’s come down from +1.0 to +0.175

Now what does Pakistan have to do? [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

What do you mean by today ,it took this hit from +1 to +0.175 after total of 3 consecutive defeat

 

[BleedGreen]

score 550 tomorrow to have a chance

 

[DeadlyYorker]

For Pakistan to qualify:
Beat Bangladesh by 311 runs after scoring 350
Beat Bangladesh by 316 runs after scoring 400
Beat Bangladesh by 321 runs after scoring 450
If Bangladesh opt to bat first on Friday, Pakistan stand eliminated even before a ball is bowled.

So is bangladesh ,brother.

Will be a battle of emotions