How Chinese investments are capturing Pakistan's economy

[Colorblind Genius]

Do you live in Pakistan? You never answered my earlier question. I'm also curious if many Pakistanis in Pakistan agree with your opinions here.

Many Pakistanis are unable to see their actual problem .. which is, rampant corruption and dishonesty with their day to day work.
And it's EVERYWHERE in Pakistan!

They don't wanna talk about it, they won't pin point it, heck they won't even accept it as a problem. It's a perfectly normal social norm.

And you and I, can see it only because we are looking at it from outside, hence we can see the bigger picture.

As they say, "You are in the bubble, but you don't know you are in the bubble because you are inside the bubble".

I have lived in Pakistan for a good 25 years, so I have lived inside the bubble too, and I guess I can see both views. Bubble from the inside and bubble from the outside.

As for answering for your previous post, you justified the corruption and dishonesty in Pakistan by implying that, it happens in other countries as well, so we can't be blamed.

I don't think it deserved a reply.
If a person thinks that, "Even though it may be wrong but it's OK for me to eat human excretion because everyone else is doing it" ... then he can be my guest and do it all day.
This mindset has no solution.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

What has India got to do with Chinese investments in Pakistan? Makes no sense.

lol ... kinda ironic, isn't it?

There is nothing ironic in this.

Here is for laughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOAvLvdUQDE

 

[mustang]

Many Pakistanis are unable to see their actual problem .. which is, rampant corruption and dishonesty with their day to day work.
And it's EVERYWHERE in Pakistan!

They don't wanna talk about it, they won't pin point it, heck they won't even accept it as a problem. It's a perfectly normal social norm.

And you and I, can see it only because we are looking at it from outside, hence we can see the bigger picture.

As they say, "You are in the bubble, but you don't know you are in the bubble because you are inside the bubble".

I have lived in Pakistan for a good 25 years, so I have lived inside the bubble too, and I guess I can see both views. Bubble from the inside and bubble from the outside.

As for answering for your previous post, you justified the corruption and dishonesty in Pakistan by implying that, it happens in other countries as well, so we can't be blamed.

I don't think it deserved a reply.
If a person thinks that, "Even though it may be wrong but it's OK for me to eat human excretion because everyone else is doing it" ... then he can be my guest and do it all day.
This mindset has no solution.

I asked if you have lived in Pakistan (which you seem to have) since your description of the current situation there seems to be more grounded.

FYI for the bolded part in the quoted message - I never justified corruption or dishonesty. I was comparing the act of upholding Pakistan to a higher religious standard when no other society can measure up to those standards (seems unfair for Pakistan's society then). But it is always good to AIM for the ideal to make some reasonable progress. As the saying goes - "aim for the moon and you will hit at least the second floor".

Of course, as much as I appreciate your candid assessment I do wonder how practical it will be and if this is more of a well worded "call for action" towards your countrymen (which is also valid). I'm also curious if many others who are living (or have lived) in Pakistan feel the same way - if yes, then that is an alarming cause for concern.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I asked if you have lived in Pakistan (which you seem to have) since your description of the current situation there seems to be more grounded.

FYI for the bolded part in the quoted message - I never justified corruption or dishonesty. I was comparing the act of upholding Pakistan to a higher religious standard when no other society can measure up to those standards (seems unfair for Pakistan's society then). But it is always good to AIM for the ideal to make some reasonable progress. As the saying goes - "aim for the moon and you will hit at least the second floor".

Of course, as much as I appreciate your candid assessment I do wonder how practical it will be and if this is more of a well worded "call for action" towards your countrymen (which is also valid). I'm also curious if many others who are living (or have lived) in Pakistan feel the same way - if yes, then that is an alarming cause for concern.

well ... "Freedom" is a loaded gun.
If you give it to a monkey, it might just shoot itself in the foot.

 

[Itachi]

First, I am not talking about slavery.
We are talking about the idea of merging a country with another country.

It happens quite often among business conglomerates. And it’s usually beneficial for both parties. For example, Bayer taking over Monsanto.

However, talking about the British rule, IMO many things were actually better than today. The rule of law n order was much, much better under the British Rule, inflation was non-existence, there was peace, cleanliness, and people didn’t starve.
Hospitals and schools and parks were built for all (that still operate to this date), poor people had access to many facilities. In general there was a very successful system in place that was executed with great success. Masses in general were happy and trusted the government.

What do we have now? A chaos, both in India and Pakistan.
Rampant Corruption everywhere, religious extremism, sky rocketing inflation, a very very weak rule of law that is only for poor n weak people, explosive population growth with no control in sight, lack of housing, clean drinking water, deteriorating infrastructure with no proper maintenance, ultra polluted atmosphere, I mean, I can go on on.
We just made a total mess out of what you may call “Freedom”

If India, Pakistan, Bangladesh was happy before freedom, then why the freedom movement took place on such a large scale? Is it because people got bored with too much in their lives and wanted to struggle more?

Are you implementing that Mr. Jinnah has put Pakistan in to chaos by going for freedom movement?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

If India, Pakistan, Bangladesh was happy before freedom, then why the freedom movement took place on such a large scale? Is it because people got bored with too much in their lives and wanted to struggle more?

Are you implementing that Mr. Jinnah has put Pakistan in to chaos by going for freedom movement?

It wasn't Mr. Jinnah or Nehru or that half naked drama queen Gandhi.
It's the current generation of India, Pakistan and corrupt polititians that have shot themselves in the foot.

 

[FearlessRoar]

All the 12 wind power projects in the Thatta district of Sindh, with an installed capacity of 610 megawatts, were connected to the national grid, according to China’s state-run Xinhua news agency said in a report on Thursday.

According to the report, more than 100 wind turbines in the Thatta district, were constantly delivering green power to households in the rural areas as part of the 3,000-km-long China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) – a flagship project of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

"This is an important part of our wind power project portfolio. At present, all 12 wind power projects, with a total installed capacity of 610 MW, have been connected to the grid," Yang Jianduo, chief representative of PowerChina in Pakistan, said.

“The project portfolio has created over 20,000 jobs for locals, and once completed, it will provide 2 billion kilowatt-hours of clean energy annually, equivalent to a 2-million-tonne reduction in carbon dioxide emissions,” Yang added.

This year marks the 10th anniversary of the launch of CPEC. In that context, cooperation under the framework of the BRI was a major topic for discussion at the Second Conference of Global Economic Development and Security Forum of Boao Forum for Asia, held in late October.

The conference in Changsha, central China's Hunan Province, was informed that CPEC had achieved fruitful results. "We are very happy and proud to say that we have actually achieved most of our targets and projects," said Hassan Daud Butt, senior adviser at an Islamabad-based think tank.

By the end of 2022, CPEC brought a direct investment of $25.4 billion, created 236,000 jobs and helped Pakistan add 510 kilometres of expressways and 8,000MW of power supply,” Butt, the senior adviser at the China Study Centre of the Sustainable Development Policy Institute, added.

The conference in Changsha was attended by over 2,500 representatives from government departments, international organisations, academia and leading multinationals. It aimed at exploring the interrelationship between development and security and how to cope with structural problems.

"We have smoother roads, easier travel, better quality and stable electricity, and more importantly, more job opportunities... BRI has brought broad development opportunities to Pakistan," said Tabi Satti, who returned to Pakistan in 2021 after six years of study and work in China.

Over the past decade, CPEC has turned a vision into reality. The China-funded New Gwadar International Airport and Gwadar East-Bay Expressway will soon be put into operation, investment is pouring in for the first phase of the Rashakai Special Economic Zone (SEZ).

Source: Express Tribune

Wind power projects in Thatta come online | The Express Tribune

Under CPEC, more than 100 wind turbines constantly deliver green power to rural households

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