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How "civilized" were the "British" for centuries?

enkidu_

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These are the peoples who killed millions all over the world in the name of "civilization". Do they support Roman conquests of their little island ? Would have they supporter more "civilized" Indians and Chinese teaching (through few genocides) "uncivilized" Britons how to write their name ?

Hume says they were a rude and barbarous people, divided into numerous tribes, dressed in the skins of wild beasts. Druidism was their religion, and they were very superstitious. Such is the first account we have of the Britons. When the Romans invaded that country, they reduced the people to a state of vassalage as degrading as that of slavery in the Southern States. Their king, Caractacus, was captured and sent a slave to Rome. Still later, Hengist and Horsa, the Saxon generals, presented another yoke, which the Britons wore compelled to wear. But the last dregs of the bitter cup of humiliation were drunk when William of Normandy met Harold at Hastings, and, with a single blow, completely annihilated the nationality of the Britons. Thousands of the conquered people were then sent to the slave markets of Rome, where they were sold very cheap on account of their inaptitude to learn.

This is not very flattering to the President's ancestors, but it is just. Cæsar, in writing home, said of the Britons, "They are the most ignorant people I ever conquered. They cannot be taught music." Cicero, writing to his friend Atticus, advised him not to buy slaves from England, "because," said he, "they cannot be taught to read, and are the ugliest and most stupid race I ever saw." I am sorry that Mr. Lincoln came from such a low origin; but he is not to blame. I only find fault with him for making mouths at me.

"You should not the ignorant n-gro despise;
Just such your sires appeared in Cæsar's eyes."

The Britons lost their nationality, became amalgamated with the Romans, Saxons, and Normans, and out of this conglomeration sprang the proud Anglo-Saxon of to-day. I once stood upon the walls of an English city, built by enslaved Britons when Julius Cæsar was their master. The image of the ancestors of President Lincoln and Montgomery Blair, as represented in Britain, was carved upon the monuments of Rome, where they may still be seen in their chains. Ancestry is something which the white American should not speak of, unless with his lips to the dust.

"Nothing," says Macaulay, "in the early existence of Britain, indicated the greatness which she was destined to attain." Britain has risen, while proud Rome, Once the mistress of the world, has fallen; but the image of the early Englishman in his chains, as carved twenty centuries ago, is still to be seen upon her broken monuments.


William Wells Brown, "The Black Man: His Antecedents, His Genius, and His Achievements", pp. 33-35
 
I like to read up on Irish history, and the savagery of the English Parliamentarian campaign in Ireland in the 17th Century is beyond description.

Forced expulsions of people, deliberately engineered famines, mass executions and indentured labour are just some of the crimes committed. The siege of Drogheda is one example.

It is appalling that these dark chapter of British history is either whitewashed or simply not mentioned in today's schools, and the apologies by the British state has been wholly inadequate.
 
The Britons conquered by the Romans were not English. The latter came in the couple of centuries after Rome pulled out.

Where I live now is one if the old Celtic Kingdoms - 500 years back nobody spoke English here, but English culture was forced on them.
 
I like to read up on Irish history, and the savagery of the English Parliamentarian campaign in Ireland in the 17th Century is beyond description.

Forced expulsions of people, deliberately engineered famines, mass executions and indentured labour are just some of the crimes committed. The siege of Drogheda is one example.

It is appalling that these dark chapter of British history is either whitewashed or simply not mentioned in today's schools, and the apologies by the British state has been wholly inadequate.

Oh? I can remember reading about the Drogheda Massacre, but that may have been after school.

3000 people died. But thirty remained and were send to Barbados, which is why that land has Irish iconography all over it.
 
Some of the 'best work' of the Empire can be seen on a daily basis in Australia .. the native Aborigines and their wonderful culture has been completely and utterly destroyed through nearly 200 years of complete barbarism. The plight of Aboriginals in Australia is one of the major reasons why it sickens me to see the last remnants of a vile Empire continually paraded around and STILL held in high esteem.
 
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