How do you rate Younis Khan as an ODI batsman?

[Mueez]

How do PP'ers rate Younis Khan as a ODI batsmen?
Hereby the stats of his ODI career:
Innings:255
Runs: 7249
Average: 31.34
Strike rate: 75.29
50's: 48
100's: 7

 

[finalfantasy7]

Terrible due to his average and strike especially as he played at no. 3

 

[marlonbrowndo]

The worst ODI player ever to play more than 200 games

 

[pakistani pride]

The worst ever. What a PAIN he was in the odi team. Terrible terrible.

 

[Hasan123]

A rubbish ODI batsmen.

 

[ManFan]

Goli mar bheje mai! That was Younis’ mentality of why despite his poor ODI stats, he was discarded from the team. He liked to settle in and then score lage runs but in ODI’s you need to strike big from the word go. Younis couldn’t do that and he ultimately hurt his legacy with the WC 15 saga and his abrupt retirement.

 

[R0H1T]

On a scale of 1 to 100 with 100 being the worst, probably 101

 

[Solid Snake]

Ranks slightly above Chris Martin, but a little below Glenn McGrath for me in terms of usefulness as an ODI bat...

 

[MRSN]

He would make Ahmed Shehzad look like AB when he was batting at the crease. Terrible player. What a shame he played the 2011 world cup instead of Malik.

 

[MRSN]

The worst ever. What a PAIN he was in the odi team. Terrible terrible.

but but he was a team man..remember the smile?

 

[backfootpunch]

Not the best no - but some stats bullies here making him he's one of the worst ODI batsman which although maybe true he wasn't as bad as Misbah who played all his games in the present era whereas the former played throughout the 2000s from his debut in 2000. But most important point folks are missing is that he has played some genuine match winning innings (not match saving), something which Misbah failed to do even once and couldn't score a ton to save his life.

Give the legend a break... Deserves more respect.

 

[R0H1T]

Not the best no - but some stats bullies here making him he's one of the worst ODI batsman which although maybe true he wasn't as bad as Misbah who played all his games in the present era whereas the former played throughout the 2000s from his debut in 2000. But most important point folks are missing is that he has played some genuine match winning innings (not match saving), something which Misbah failed to do even once and couldn't score a ton to save his life.

Give the legend a break... Deserves more respect.

O'really

 

[backfootpunch]

O'really
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Deserves more respect than Misbah because on his day he could win matches.

Perhaps as an Indian this perception can be changed if you were aware and actually watched the following winnings in a high run chase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLWCNYqpOI

 

[R0H1T]

In case the previous link doesn't work ~ https://i.imgur.com/bqJBX38.png

FYI he did quite well against his favorite team, just not in ICC tournaments though.

Deserves more respect than Misbah because on his day he could win matches.

Perhaps as an Indian this perception can be changed if you were aware and actually watched the following winnings in a high run chase:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLWCNYqpOI

You can't judge him based on his record against just one nation.

 

[backfootpunch]

In case the previous link doesn't work ~ https://i.imgur.com/bqJBX38.png

FYI he did quite well against his favorite team, just not in ICC tournaments though.You can't judge him based on his record against just one nation.

Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.

 

[Abdullah719]

Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.

Every batsman will have some innings of note, even Shehzad does.

Younis was a good ODI batsman for a couple of years in the pre-2010 but his overall record is awful for a specialist batsman. The antics he pulled to be part of the ODI teams also don't help the cause.

 

[R0H1T]

Perhaps you need to work on your comprehension skills since I made it clear that he wasn't the best because he's not that good but my point is the same posters who are roasting him like yourself will make Misbah some sort of ODI legend.

He deserves respect for some of the matches he won for Pakistan such as that run chase in Mohali.

Why would I do that, Afridi was the last ODI legend you had. Flawed as he was, he'd won Pak more games than Misbah+Younis combined.

You could easily argue that he lost you more games than he'd won for Pak, an avg of 25 (barely) & S/R under 70 is just beyond belief. If you are happy that he contributed immensely against India, except ICC tournaments, then be happy, who am I to burst your bubble?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

The most selfish odi player ever

The worst odi player to play over 200 games

An utter failure who though he was amazing and blackmailed his way into the 2015 World Cup

He also has one of the worst records in WCs of all time

 

[Suleiman]

Younis Khan. After wanting to open vs India in the 2015 WC. Picture speaks a 1000 words.

Man we've come far after 2 years.

 

[kingusama92]

He wasn't a good ODI batsman.

It's surprising why he never managed to do well. A batsman of his quality should have been much better in the shorter format.

 

[backfootpunch]

Every batsman will have some innings of note, even Shehzad does.

Younis was a good ODI batsman for a couple of years in the pre-2010 but his overall record is awful for a specialist batsman. The antics he pulled to be part of the ODI teams also don't help the cause.

He had his moments in the 2000s which is why he does a bit more respect than we see on this thread but agreed his antics didn't help and should have retired after 2011 WC .

 

[Syed1]

Much better than Misbah.

 

[ExpressPacer]

The worst ODI batsman to have played the game.

 

[Hasan123]

Much better than Misbah.

As if that's an achievement. But keep on celebrating one mediocre player being better than another one for the side you support.

 

[backfootpunch]

Why would I do that, Afridi was the last ODI legend you had. Flawed as he was, he'd won Pak more games than Misbah+Younis combined.

You could easily argue that he lost you more games than he'd won for Pak, an avg of 25 (barely) & S/R under 70 is just beyond belief. If you are happy that he contributed immensely against India, except ICC tournaments, then be happy, who am I to burst your bubble?

Going by the double standards some have set here there is a need for consistency. If Misbah is to be respected in ODIs than so does Younis Khan because unlike the former he actually won some games for Pakistan.

 

[Abdullah719]

The most selfish odi player ever

The worst odi player to play over 200 games

An utter failure who though he was amazing and blackmailed his way into the 2015 World Cup

He also has one of the worst records in WCs of all time

Good point, I forgot his World Cup record... 22/70 stats in FOUR World Cups with two fifties against SL and Kenya.

 

[talha3]

Overall an average ODI player.

However I think it's harsh to call him the worst to play over 200 ODIs since he did have an amazing patch during 2007-2008.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...7;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

An average of 45 and strike rate of 88 including 4 hundreds and 10 fifties in 34 innings

 

[coy0607]

Much better than Misbah.

No question about that

But then that's not saying much

 

[Ab Fan]

Alongside Cook and Rahane.. A lot behind Dravid.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Misbah is a much better LOI batsman than younis. Misbah was a very flawed ODI batsman but he was still better than younis in ODIs and absolutely leagues above younis is t20s. Misbah has played some very good t20 innings that could've been replicated in ODIs if only he didn't bat so defensively in that format. Younis on the other hand just didn't have he ability to be a decent LOI batsman.

 

[Buffet]

Overall an average ODI player.

However I think it's harsh to call him the worst to play over 200 ODIs ...

He was below average for sure. Let's do this ,

Entire list of players who played 200+ ODIs who were not a keeper. Just eliminated them to keep the list shorter.








Try to find 5 players in this huge list who were worse than YK. Worse is subjective and you can argue with 1-2 names here, but he was surely one of the worse to play 200+ ODI games.

 

[R0H1T]

He was below average for sure. Let's do this ,

Entire list of players who played 200+ ODIs who were not a keeper. Just eliminated them to keep the list shorter.

Try to find 5 players in this huge list who were worse than YK. Worse is subjective and you can argue with 1-2 names here, but he was surely one of the worse to play 200+ ODI games.

If you tighten the criteria a bit, he's the third worst ever, worst for a specialist (batter) non keeping/bowling player.
www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...alval2=hundreds;template=results;type=batting

 

[Buffet]

Alongside Cook and Rahane.. A lot behind Dravid.

Dravid's rating was higher in pretty much entire career than peak rating of YK. YK made it to highest ranking of 17 in his entire career. While Dravid was not a top 10 material himself, he was mostly ranked in 10-20 in his career. YK's peak got him highest rank of 17.



Dravid was far superior batsman than YK in ODI. Problem is that Dravid was playing for Indian line up filled with gun batsmen. He looked poor in comparison, but no way he was inferior to YK.

 

[Buffet]

If you tighten the criteria a bit, he's the third worst ever, worst for a specialist (batter) non keeping/bowling player.View attachment 76904
www.stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...alval2=hundreds;template=results;type=batting

McCullum was comfortably a better player than YK in ODI. I won't call him inferior due to having similar Avg, because his SR was 20 point higher than YK. Then Afridi is left in contention and he was not a pure batsman.

 

[Hamza_]

He is ofcourse the worst ODI Bat to play 200+ games..

 

[R0H1T]

McCullum was comfortably a better player than YK in ODI. I won't call him inferior due to having similar Avg, because his SR was 20 point higher than YK. Then Afridi is left in contention and he was not a pure batsman.

I was talking about avg as the differentiating factor, overall though he's easily the worst, taking everything else into account.

 

[Buffet]

I was talking about avg as the differentiating factor, overall though he's easily the worst, taking everything else into account.

Well, I provided a huge list and let's see anyone can pick 3-4 names who should be rated below YK in ODI. PPers are not right all the time, but I recon here PPers may be right on target.

 

[R0H1T]

Well, I provided a huge list and let's see anyone can pick 3-4 names who should be rated below YK in ODI. PPers are not right all the time, but I recon here PPers may be right on target.

I think you're being optimistic, you'd have to go back 30 to 40 years before we see anyone who's been consistently as bad as Younis over the years.

 

[Cric1234]

Although he's played less matches Shafiq is worse than Younis in ODIs both were given a long rope without any results for some reason.

 

[Abdul]

Worst ever in the history.

 

[Black Zero]

The WWWORSTTT.

 

[Raja Sab]

The worst ODI player ever to play more than 200 games

the worst ODI player saved many ODI games for Pakistan

 

[Finisher]

Easily the worst specialist batsman to play so many ODI's.

Shoaib Malik was 10 times better as Pakistan's number 3 then YK, he also kept more deserving players out of the team, players like Saeed AnwarJnr and Saeed bin Nasir who both averaged over 42 in List A cricket.

 

[Sarfarazian92]

His average would be lower than 30 if it weren't for piyush chawla, praveen kumar in 2007-8.

 

[todfod 11]

5/10

he was okay until 2009 after that it was all but downhill for Younis career.

 

[giri26]

Younis wasn't just cut out for ODI's. He was a great test player but could not crack the shorter format. It is similar to how Bevan could not succeed in tests.

 

[msb314]

Much better than Misbah.

As if that's an achievement. But keep on celebrating one mediocre player being better than another one for the side you support.

You two made me LOL

Misbah could stick around for longer post-2010.

But when YK and Misbah were younger back in 2007-09. YK was head and shoulders above Misbah. Case in point - the 321 Mohali chase and the 309 Karachi chase.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

At least asad shafiq had a good 2011 wc

Younis khan will argue he always batted at number 7 because of wasim akram etc but so did all other pakistani batsmen when they started their career
His batting in ODI made azhar alis shot selection look good

 

[Bhaijaan]

Quite ordinary and would not make Top 40 batsmen for India or Australia in ODI cricket

 

[Mamoon]

He was decent in the first half of his career when he batted down the order, and he had a really good purple patch in 2007-08. Apart from that, he was horrendous.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Underachieved if I'm honest. To have played so many games and have a average just over 31. If you take out the hundred against Eng in 2006, India 07 & 08 and the one against New Zealand in 2014.

 

[Rana]

He should have been much, much better than what he achieved. At least an average of 35-38 with a strike rate of 80+

 

[Rana]

It is a real shame to think players like Shoaib Malik and Hafeez were better ODI cricketers than Younis Khan. Younis Khan should have dominated ODI cricket for Pakistan the way Jayawardene did for Sri Lanka.

 

[Mamoon]

Younis was a scratchy starter, and they usually don’t do well in ODIs.

Jayawardene was poor in the middle-order but he was brilliant as an opener. Sri Lanka should have played him at the top of the order more frequently especially when they struggled to find a partner for Dilshan.

 

[angrypathan]

I don't.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Worst player to play more than 150 ODIs

 

[Ab Fan]

Average player.

 

[Markhor]

Very poor especially after leaving the captaincy. Younis was a slow starter and when his reflexes slowed simply couldn't up the pace.

Wouldn't say he was the worst ever ODI batsmen or even in the top 5 though. There were folks like Michael Slater who averaged 24 at a SR of 60 after 42 ODIs without a single hundred, despite having a reputation for being an attacking batsman.

 

[Hasan123]

Absolutely rubbish in ODIs. Will never understand how he played so many games in different positions.

 

[burger_uno]

shoaib mohammed is probably the worst odi batsman i have seen from pak. in comparison, his test record is right up there and quite possibly, his batting average is the highest or the second highest for pakistani opener. says a lot about pakistan cricket that ramiz has played more test matches than shoaib did. rumour was that imran did not think highly of shoaib and that was the end of that. despite all that, i have always seen him with a positive attitude.

 

[Swashbuckler]

One of the worst of all time considering the fact that he played 265 ODIs, got a few 100s in JAMODIs but what's the point of those? Everyone blames Misbah for the Mohali knock but YK was much worse that day, destroyed Pakistan's momentum against harmless bowling. After a decent start his 12 (32) was criminal.