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How does Bangladesh's economy compare with Pakistan's?

But the word you used was self-esteem which doesn't relate to economic condition. Happiness is a different thing however and yes it is very much related to economy. You can't be happy if you are not financially secure. You need money to pay medical bills of your old age parents/grandparents, for educating your children, for marrying your daughters in our society and to secure your own future. Self-esteem will provide you none of that.
 
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Long time guys.


How are things going in both countries economically. I am guessing Pakistan has made a big leap recently with some big deals signed with China and co?
 
Pakistan is relatively richer than Bangladesh, it's got a higher per capita income and larger economy.
 
Long time guys.


How are things going in both countries economically. I am guessing Pakistan has made a big leap recently with some big deals signed with China and co?



Bang is still behind Pak when it comes to PPP. SL still kicking SAARC neighbors in the rear. So, not much has changed..

Maldives is dependent far too much on the tourism sector, so SL is the de facto leader..

Country ---- 2014 ------- 1991 ---- ratio
Maldives ---12,435 ---- 2,767 ---- 4.5
SL --------- 10,355 --- 2,485 --- 4.16
Bhutan------ 7,657 --- 1,533 ---- 5
India ------- 5,777 --- 1,230 --- 4.7
Pak --------- 4,746 --- 1,918 --- 2.5
Bang --------3,385 ----- 890 --- 3.8
Nepal ------- 2,381----- 851----- 2.8
 
Bang is still behind Pak when it comes to PPP. SL still kicking SAARC neighbors in the rear. So, not much has changed..

Maldives is dependent far too much on the tourism sector, so SL is the de facto leader..

Country ---- 2014 ------- 1991 ---- ratio
Maldives ---12,435 ---- 2,767 ---- 4.5
SL --------- 10,355 --- 2,485 --- 4.16
Bhutan------ 7,657 --- 1,533 ---- 5
India ------- 5,777 --- 1,230 --- 4.7
Pak --------- 4,746 --- 1,918 --- 2.5
Bang --------3,385 ----- 890 --- 3.8
Nepal ------- 2,381----- 851----- 2.8

Ratio is telling us the rate of improvement. BD has improved by 3.8 times when compared to Pakistan at 2.5 times in the last 23 years.

If same trend continues for another few decades then BD economy will be bigger than Pakistan. I am pretty certain that per capita income of BD will be higher even quicker if the same trend continues. Simply because BD population will shrink but Pakistan's population will grow.
 
Ratio is telling us the rate of improvement. BD has improved by 3.8 times when compared to Pakistan at 2.5 times in the last 23 years.

If same trend continues for another few decades then BD economy will be bigger than Pakistan. I am pretty certain that per capita income of BD will be higher even quicker if the same trend continues. Simply because BD population will shrink but Pakistan's population will grow.

BD improved 3.8 times, just 1.5 times more than Pakistan(a country at war) and you leave out the fact that Pakistan has a larger economy and isn't in recession, so even if we grow modestly, we wouldn't have a smaller economy than Bangladesh unless they have astronomical growth and we go into a depression, and these trends aren't even constant, so we can't predict anything.

BD's population is roughly the same as Pakistan despite have much less land, it is the one of the most densely populated countries in the world whereas Pakistan is larger than France and Germany combined in terms of area, so Pakistan has a lot more resources and it's population is more spread out.
 
BD improved 3.8 times, just 1.5 times more than Pakistan(a country at war) and you leave out the fact that Pakistan has a larger economy and isn't in recession, so even if we grow modestly, we wouldn't have a smaller economy than Bangladesh unless they have astronomical growth and we go into a depression, and these trends aren't even constant, so we can't predict anything.

I don't have any way to predict what will be growth rate of two countries for a period like 20-30 years and that's why I said if trend continues. You are right about security situation in Pakistan being bad in the last 5-10 years but Bangladesh has been getting better in per capita income at faster rate starting from 1990 and Pakistan didn't have this security issue in 90s. So trend is now around 25 years old.

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http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2012/01/weodata/weoselgr.aspx



BD's population is roughly the same as Pakistan despite have much less land, it is the one of the most densely populated countries in the world whereas Pakistan is larger than France and Germany combined in terms of area, so Pakistan has a lot more resources and it's population is more spread out.

I don't think that trend in above graph is going to reverse any time soon. Reason is simple. Pakistan's population is growing a lot and BD is close to stable population fertility rate. See two data point for comparison. Pakistan stands out due to increasing population by 1/3rd in just a decade. No other large populated country come even close here.

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So going forward we are going to see a huge growth in population of Pakistan when compared to BD. BD economy is currently growing faster than Pakistan and even if both grow at the same level, per capita income in BD is going to overtake Pakistan unless Pakistan grows at much faster rate than BD.

For economy of BD to get bigger it will take a much longer time and you are right about scenario changing but for per capita basis, I think Bangladesh should over take Pakistan in 15-20 years.
 
An interesting piece from the FT re Bangladesh's economy and manufacturing in general

Bangladesh has achieved an economic miracle in the past 20 years. A few decades ago it was one of the poorest countries on earth, stricken by famine and flood. Now it ranks as middle-income. Vietnam has done the same; Cambodia is close behind. Their spectacular growth shows fear of “premature deindustrialisation” is misplaced as a new generation of manufacturing powers rise to shape the 21st century.

What Bangladesh has done is all the more remarkable because the world has taken so little notice. Growth has steadily accelerated to more than 6 per cent, driven by the classic cheap-labour starter industry of textiles. It is now the world’s second-largest garment exporter. Powerful gears of growth have begun to turn. The textile factories employ millions of young women, giving them economic power, prompting rural families to invest in education and triggering a demographic dividend.

Robots are decades away from displacing skilful human fingers willing to work for dollars a day

The growth of these new manufacturing centres is one of the most exciting changes in the global economy. They offer new markets for consumer goods, huge opportunities for investors and a way to lift millions of people out of poverty. Yet even as Bangladesh takes off, there are doubts about whether others can follow.

Harvard economist Dani Rodrik has found a pattern of early manufacturing collapse in poor countries, with factories disappearing at much lower levels of development than they did in Europe or the US. He charts an industrial slump in South America, Africa and parts of Asia since the 1980s, in terms of output and employment. That is grave news for developing countries. As Mr Rodrik notes, manufacturing powers productivity. It is hard to get rich without it.

In the 1960s, Asian economies were sometimes compared with flying geese. As Japan ascended the manufacturing value chain — into electronics, for example — then Taiwan or South Korea could move into the textile market left behind. The result was development by echelon, like migrating birds. But if automation and robotics can now compete with even the cheapest labour then these opportunities will never open up. Developing countries will either have to find a new growth model via services or be forever stuck selling commodities.

Such fears are mistaken. It is more likely that Bangladesh heralds the start of a new wave of industrialisation in poor countries; one that will, in time, extend even to sub-Saharan Africa.

Researchers at the UN confirm that the share of manufacturing and manufacturing jobs in the average developing economy has fallen. But for developing economies as a whole, they find the share of manufacturing and manufacturing jobs is at a record level. In other words, it is not that there is less manufacturing going on, or that robots are doing it all. Rather, all the manufacturing has become heavily concentrated in one place, causing a loss of industry everywhere else. That place, of course, is China. The geese were trying to migrate across China but getting gunned down by its formidable comparative advantage in making things.

If other manufacturers are to grow, they must displace this industrial giant, and Bangladesh suggests that is now possible. China’s factories are investing heavily in automation and robotics in order to raise productivity and stay competitive as local wages rise. But there is little reason to think it will work any better than it did for the rich countries China itself displaced in the 1990s.

Robotics technology has moved forwards but fully automated production lines are still vastly expensive and difficult to adjust. For that reason, robots are little used beyond automobiles and electronics, where the volumes are high enough. Robots are decades away from displacing skilful human fingers willing to work for dollars a day in an industry where customer demand changes as quickly as clothing.

Much will depend on whether Beijing lets its low-skill industries die or fights to keep them. Its move away from currency intervention and a weak renminbi has directly aided the rise of new manufacturing hubs. Its sky-high rates of saving and investment, on the other hand, create overcapacity and suppress the growth of industry elsewhere. Other developing countries should hope Beijing succeeds in rebalancing its economy towards consumption. Nothing would do more to speed their growth.

If China’s population stops making cheap clothes but wear more of them, it will mean the available market is larger than ever in history. China had hundreds of millions of rich consumers in Europe, the US and Japan to sell to in the 1980s. Now there are billions of people buying clothes, shoes and toys. Whatever automation there is, bigger markets will offset it.

For the global economy, Bangladesh and others offer fresh growth with less reliance on China. There are important implications for prices in advanced countries. One cause of low global inflation is the impact of China’s entry into global markets. The rise of Bangladesh suggests prices will not pick up as China’s own income rises. There are still others wanting to manufacture their way to wealth — not least in Africa.

Ever since the industrial revolution began in the mid-18th century, manufacturing has been the path from poverty to plenty, and despite a bout of congestion as China followed it, the route is as open as ever. The geese are ready to migrate again.

https://amp.ft.com/content/5491a288-7b7b-11e7-9108-edda0bcbc928
 
Bangladesh is pretty much ahead in everything other than GDP. However, it is just a matter of a few years before Bangladesh overtakes Pakistan in terms of GDP per capita. It will be difficult for Bangladesh to have a higher absolute GDP than Pakistan because Bangladesh's population is starting to stabilise whereas Pakistan's is still growing and will balloon up to 300 million soon.
 
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