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How does Mushfiqur Rahim compare with other Wicket Keeper batsmen?

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This guy has been absolutely brilliant for us. May not get big scores but has been scoring 50s here and there and very crucial 50s these. On top of that has been a very good keeper batsman.

How does everyone rate him? Obviously nothing compared to legends like Sanga or Dhoni.
 
Very energetic, involved, aggressive, and also a bit temperamental.

IMHO, among the WKs of today he is not far behind the pack.

I feel if he could control his aggression a little bit while on batting (have seen him lose his cool and ending up playing rash shot quite a few times), he may reach greater heights as a batsman.
 
Rate him highly as a Batsman..Could walk into Pak,SL,WI,NZ middle order easily in any format with his solid technique and aggression :19:
 
You guys have some decent bats but your bowling bar Shakib is mediocre vs the top teams.
 
143 ODIs, sub 30 average, SR 72. Where is the aggression and run making ability exactly?
 
143 ODIs, sub 30 average, SR 72. Where is the aggression and run making ability exactly?

This.

Bangladeshi batsman will ofcourse look good bashing minnows but their real quality is telling when we look at how their players perform vs top teams.
 
This.

Bangladeshi batsman will ofcourse look good bashing minnows but their real quality is telling when we look at how their players perform vs top teams.

He was a very ordinary batsman in the first 5 years, from there on he improved vastly. So I think that average doesn't really tell the real story. His average is far less than that of Anamul, Nasir, Shakib or Riad but he is definitely better than them and has played some vital innings when team was under pressure. Just look at the match against Afghanistan for sure.
 
Brendon Taylor is better than him.

Must agree. Taylor is a quality batsman and has been so for the last one year. Although Mushfiq may catch up to him in the next few years given his constant progress.

But, both are far inferior to Saqlain Haider as per Firebreaker here. Saqlain Haider is the next Adam Gilchrist and has scored binary digits in the practice matches --- 0 against Afghanistan, 1 against Australia.
 
He was a very ordinary batsman in the first 5 years, from there on he improved vastly. So I think that average doesn't really tell the real story. His average is far less than that of Anamul, Nasir, Shakib or Riad but he is definitely better than them and has played some vital innings when team was under pressure. Just look at the match against Afghanistan for sure.

You made my point lol.

Shakib is class but the rest of your batting is meh. A League 1 side outscoring a Premier League side doesn't mean the former would have better strikers, against a low/similar quality opponent ofc your batsmen will shine.
 
Must agree. Taylor is a quality batsman and has been so for the last one year. Although Mushfiq may catch up to him in the next few years given his constant progress.

But, both are far inferior to Saqlain Haider as per Firebreaker here. Saqlain Haider is the next Adam Gilchrist and has scored binary digits in the practice matches --- 0 against Afghanistan, 1 against Australia.

I looked at stats, I take my words back. He has some decent stats last two years against top teams.
 
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Here we are not solely talking about anyone's keeping skill. You are pardoned if you misunderstood :shakib
 
You made my point lol.

Shakib is class but the rest of your batting is meh. A League 1 side outscoring a Premier League side doesn't mean the former would have better strikers, against a low/similar quality opponent ofc your batsmen will shine.

That 70 odd against Afghanistan was as good as it gets. Yes its against a minnow but that was still a very crucial innings from him. The team was struggling with 4 wickets down for 100 in 27 overs and by the time he got out he took his team to a brilliant position. Forget this innings, think about what Misbah did against Zimbabwe. So what if its against Zimbabwe? That was a cruical innings nonetheless and if Misbah had left early Pakistan would have lost easily and would probably thinking about packing there bags. Now they have a real shot of storming into the QFs.

And I am not denying that our batting is mediocre. It is. However, it is a very capable batting lineup with the likes oF tamim Anamul Nasir and Sabbir who are accomplished player but they need to click. Someone like Tamim scoring a 50 after ages doesn't do justice to us. And Nasir was off-form for almost a year.
 
Ordinary keeper. Do not understand his whole standing in front of the stumps thing that he is been doing in this world cup... give the fielders a chance at the stumps Mushy! Definitely our best batsman.
 
He will make Kamran Akmal look good, drops catches, stumping chance goes missing.

He is an ok batsman, needs to convert his starts to big daddy ones and not throw his wicket away.
 
He is a very good bat. He has consistency in his batting.But as a keeper he is not that class. He often misses stumpings. He should work hard on his keeping. As a wicketkeeper batsman package what he is at the moment, he can easily break into the Pakistan, West indies and the English ODI team. But Sanga and MS are far superior as a package than him
 
He is our crisis man. He rarely disappointed us with his bat when our team was in trouble over the last 3 years. He can take pressure on his shoulder as like Misbah does for his team.
 
He is behind Dhoni and Sanga, but better than others including, NZL, Australia, WI, England, and Zimbabwe's current wicketkeepers as wicketkeeper/batsman package. Less we say about Pakistan is better, I would not bring Umar and Sarfaraz in to consideration even.
 
Sarfaraz has been quality in the past year if I am wrong. Why do they pick Jamshed over him?
 
He is behind Dhoni and Sanga, but better than others including, NZL, Australia, WI, England, and Zimbabwe's current wicketkeepers as wicketkeeper/batsman package. Less we say about Pakistan is better, I would not bring Umar and Sarfaraz in to consideration even.

If you talk about Tests, then Sarfraz is ahead of him right now.
 
His keeping skills isn't great. Wonderful technique. Should give up the gloves and bat at 3/4.
 
he is just behind Dhoni and Sanga, for me currently world number 3best wicket keeper batsman.
 
This guy has been absolutely brilliant for us. May not get big scores but has been scoring 50s here and there and very crucial 50s these. On top of that has been a very good keeper batsman.

How does everyone rate him? Obviously nothing compared to legends like Sanga or Dhoni.

Here is your answer:

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AB, not keeping wickets in ODI, De-Kock in horrible form, almost like Jamshed, currently. Ronchi doing good but only lately. Haddin has been good in the past, very good, not lately. Butler is very new, relatively. McCullum, not a keeper any more. I think the best keeper is Ramdin and he's making runs also now, but Rahim is performing well for years. So, he is # 3 with Ramdin as close # 4 in ranking. Sarfaraz has been horrible in ODIs and out of subcontinent. Has performed well in test lately but he an "AbuDhabi-Dubai-Sharja" specialist, not beyond that.
 
A very good batsman, dont know about his keeping. But never seen him dropping dollies.
 
Highest averaging wicket-keeper in the tournament (no not-outs). Strike rate of 120.
 
He hits some quality shots and packs a punch. As a batsman, I rate him as Bangla's best.
 
He hits some quality shots and packs a punch. As a batsman, I rate him as Bangla's best.
He has been Bangladesh's best batsman for the last few years by a long shot. Also he has totally reinvented himself as a batsman through sheer hard work and dedication. He doesn't have the talent of a Shakib or a Tamim but he has managed to take his average from the low 20s into the 30s and is improving match by match. Also he was known to have a limited range of shots and as a result struggled with his SR but now he can easily score above a run a ball. He is also extremely fit. Wonderfully disciplined guy.
 
He is the Misbah of Bangladesh. Criminally under-rated and always thinking about the team. Like today he could have easily got a hundred by slowing down like Mahmudullah but instead he was focused on accelerating.
 
143 ODIs, sub 30 average, SR 72. Where is the aggression and run making ability exactly?

Averages 40+ with a 90+ SR in the last 2 years.

Like I said before, quoting statistics is easy, but a little more challenging to apply context and understand cricket.
 
Why is he not captain?
And how on earth did BCB manage to make and injury prone musharafe captain of a worldcup team? I am sure there were better guys availble
tamim iqbal could have been a good candidate
 
Averages 40+ with a 90+ SR in the last 2 years.

Like I said before, quoting statistics is easy, but a little more challenging to apply context and understand cricket.

Funny, so I don't look at the last two years, which I admit my mistake, which I usually do (I also did after I posted) admit my mistake and say yes I was wrong, and now it becomes a question of my understanding of cricket.

Just like you cannot understand what anyone posts and make up arguments they never made to seem right.

Chalaak admi ho tum, except we're not all fools that fall into your trap.

I do enjoy however how the statistical analysis which you were arguing the other day isn't important is what you use now to talk to me, but then the other day you said for you it doesn't.

Why would someone, even if the other is wrong discuss stats and try to use them as though it is an argument they understand and agree with. You cannot have it both ways.

Either you support stats and that's your way to prove a Rahim is good, which admittedly fair play, has improved immensely in the last couple years, or you don't, and trying to argue context of them makes little to no sense.

You don't have to respond. Won't indulge in your nonsense anymore.

Wish I could block people's posts so I wouldn't have to see self indulgent posters around here who don't want to discuss cricket for fun and enjoy, but simply want to be right and could care less whether their team does well or not.
 
Funny, so I don't look at the last two years, which I admit my mistake, which I usually do (I also did after I posted) admit my mistake and say yes I was wrong, and now it becomes a question of my understanding of cricket.

Just like you cannot understand what anyone posts and make up arguments they never made to seem right.

Chalaak admi ho tum, except we're not all fools that fall into your trap.

I do enjoy however how the statistical analysis which you were arguing the other day isn't important is what you use now to talk to me, but then the other day you said for you it doesn't.

Why would someone, even if the other is wrong discuss stats and try to use them as though it is an argument they understand and agree with. You cannot have it both ways.

Either you support stats and that's your way to prove a Rahim is good, which admittedly fair play, has improved immensely in the last couple years, or you don't, and trying to argue context of them makes little to no sense.

You don't have to respond. Won't indulge in your nonsense anymore.

Wish I could block people's posts so I wouldn't have to see self indulgent posters around here who don't want to discuss cricket for fun and enjoy, but simply want to be right and could care less whether their team does well or not.

I don't have a problem with statistics, my only issue is that people use them to their convenience. Few things lie worse than statistics if you learn to tinker with them.

I am not good at tinkering with statistics, which is why I cannot use them to my advantage, therefore I'd stick to what I see and when I see Mushfiqur Rahim bat, I see a very good batsman who has made great strides over the last year or two.

Now if you were kind enough to go to cricinfo and copy paste his average and strike rate to make a patronizing remark in mocking tone over 'Where is the aggression and run making ability exactly?', you should have done your homework priorly so that it wouldn't have fallen flat on your face.

Ironic tbf, you don't need a block feature; just stop following my posts around like a pup which you seem to be doing over the last couple of days. You don't have to quote or respond to my posts, but you seem to do so with vigour and if you are allergic to my posts I'd be happy not to quote/reply in the future. Happy with that?

You can start by ignoring this post.
 
I don't have a problem with statistics, my only issue is that people use them to their convenience. Few things lie worse than statistics if you learn to tinker with them.

I am not good at tinkering with statistics, which is why I cannot use them to my advantage, therefore I'd stick to what I see and when I see Mushfiqur Rahim bat, I see a very good batsman who has made great strides over the last year or two.

Now if you were kind enough to go to cricinfo and copy paste his average and strike rate to make a patronizing remark in mocking tone over 'Where is the aggression and run making ability exactly?', you should have done your homework priorly so that it wouldn't have fallen flat on your face.

Ironic tbf, you don't need a block feature; just stop following my posts around like a pup which you seem to be doing over the last couple of days. You don't have to quote or respond to my posts, but you seem to do so with vigour and if you are allergic to my posts I'd be happy not to quote/reply in the future. Happy with that?

You can start by ignoring this post.

And like any other person in the world I just made a mistake you *****. Your personal life must be miserable. I feel sorry for you
 
Wow brothers we are talking about the performance from a hobbit, not personal issues.
 
Why is he not captain?
And how on earth did BCB manage to make and injury prone musharafe captain of a worldcup team? I am sure there were better guys availble
tamim iqbal could have been a good candidate

I think he has some problems with BCB last year, so they removed him from captaincy
 
Actually he was poor as a captain. He is very defensive and today had he captained he would have lost us the match by letting the new batsman gonfree and overbowl the spinners.
 
Actually he was poor as a captain. He is very defensive and today had he captained he would have lost us the match by letting the new batsman gonfree and overbowl the spinners.

Yes Mashrafe Mortaza did some brilliant captaincy.

At one point England were cruising and he went for pace - spin combo.

Very good aggressive captaincy.

Yeah a defensive captain might have lost BD the game today.
 
He's actually another world class player for BD. Has to give up gloves for tests and bat 3. ODIs 4. Only 26. His average is increasing everytime.
 
I think, at some point in next few years, Mashfique 'll leave keeping & focus on batting only. We have Liton, a 20 years old WK, who is much better WK & averages 50+in FC & 42+ in List A.
 
Take a bow, Mushfiqur Rahim

One of the best limited over innings by a Bangladesh batsman in a winning cause. Amazing temperament with wide range of shots. He has done it while limping.
 
Mushy is a top top batsman.

People can troll him all they want. The guy is a quality player.
 
I think he pulled his hamstring towards the end there but still got Bangladesh home. Top, top innings today. The best ever T20 innings by a Bangladesh player.
 
Fantastic innings. Add to the fact that he was limping in last 3 overs and yet kept on taking singles and doubles like a champion!
Well done Bangaladesh.
 
Epic Celebration

He's copying it from that Nazmul guy who does the Cobra thing after each wicket. Even the captain did it while giving him his first international cap. Looks like it's becoming the go to BD celebration of late.
 
Bangladeshis are bursting crackers here near my locality in Delhi . Lol I didnt know we had so many of them.
 
I was supporting him until the second last ball of the 19th when he called for drinks and then was shouting at the umpire when he opposed. Don't like these kind of characters who immediately get a big head.
 
When Mushfiqur is in fine touch with the bat like this ,it is so much eye pleasing to see his stroke play.A top class innings under pressure.Liton Das should also be given due credit for his cameo.
 
This is what i was impressed about that innings. They bowl wide he slaps through off side, on the off stump he hits straight down, on the leg he hoicks through midwicket , on the pads he worked through leg side basically they couldn't bowl anywhere to him.
 
You are right.Nazmul made it his trademark celebration in BPL throughout the tournament.
 
Mushy 4 innings back had a T20I average of 15 with SR below 120.

its probably 20 now lol
 
[MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] Srilankans were wasting time. He was asking the umpire to get on with the game as he didn't want to loose the momentum.
 
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[MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] Srilankans were wasting time. He was asking the umpire to get on with the game as he didn't want to loose the momentum.

Oh alright. Good game then. Didn't know he had this power game in him, was pleasantly surprised. BD should get rid of Soumya and Sabbir ASAP though.
 
Sarfaraz or Dhoni have never played such an inns in T20Is and probably never will, absolutely astonishing :19:
 
Seriously?

A separate thread for a mere half century? Yes it was a good innings on an extremely flat pitch, but nothing extraordinary.
 
Seriously?

A separate thread for a mere half century? Yes it was a good innings on an extremely flat pitch, but nothing extraordinary.

1) BD never chased 170+

2) BD never scored 200

3) BD lost 13 of their last 14 matches

4) Mushy was limping

5) He saw the match till the end.
 
Loved that epic celebration from Mushfiq! And that roar of a tiger when he hit the winning runs. Go TIGERS!
 
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