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How many games has Ravindra Jadeja won with the bat for India?

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This guy has now been around for a long while. I rate his bowling more than his batting, apart from that knock against NZ which he batted out of his skin to help India to draw, i am struggling to point out other meaningful innings that he has played for India.

Everytime i see him bat, he is like a virtual tailender, in today's game India had one real chance of coming back when Pandeya was going great guns and was looking like he could pull off a Jason Mohammad type innings against Pakistan, but Jadeja kept on playing dots and ultimately ran out his partners and didn't even sacrifice himself instead for his team.

How do Indian fans feel about him?
 
Take Indian domestic performances with more than a grain of salt, this hack of a batsman has a triple hundred in first class cricket.
 
He never has to perform with the bat as Indias top 4 usually manage everything themselves.
 
Jadeja's batting in LO cricket has sadly not come on. There have been flashes of dependable hitting but those games have been few and far in between. I can't remember the last time he looked truly effective with the bat. His bowling has also been up and down recently and the only dependable part of his game is his fielding.

I still think he's an asset and on most days does enough with both the bowl and his fielding to justify his place.
It's the other Ravi that I'm concerned about. Ashwin has really looked out of sorts with his LO bowling over the last year. Its the negative lines, the wides, combined with his already crap fielding and ineffective LO batting that make him a liabilty at the moment . Unless he's willing to change his bowling style and start bowling attackingly, I would drop him.
 
FlickedOffHips said:
Jadeja's batting in LO cricket has sadly not come on. There have been flashes of dependable hitting but those games have been few and far in between. I can't remember the last time he looked truly effective with the bat. His bowling has also been up and down recently and the only dependable part of his game is his fielding.

I still think he's an asset and on most days does enough with both the bowl and his fielding to justify his place.
It's the other Ravi that I'm concerned about. Ashwin has really looked out of sorts with his LO bowling over the last year. Its the negative lines, the wides, combined with his already crap fielding and ineffective LO batting that make him a liabilty at the moment . Unless he's willing to change his bowling style and start bowling attackingly, I would drop him.
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Ashwin is a better batsman in test . He is not a big hitter.

The same problem Imad Wasim has.
 
Justcrazy said:
Ashwin is a better batsman in test . He is not a big hitter.

The same problem Imad Wasim has.
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He really is. He has a decent technique as long as you don't ask him to rush, which is perfect for Tests. I wouldn't mind him doing what Jimmy Anderson has done and only play test cricket. That or he needs to bowl to take wickets.
 
The imp question is that how many has he won with the bowl in recent ODIs. If the top 5-6 fail, can't expect much from him with the bat. Kedar Jadhav can replace him in LOIs for the time being till he gets the mojo back with the bowl.
 
Ashwin and Jadeja are both test cricketers. India should look for someone else in ODIs.
 
He has been economical as a bowler and has the ability to make the opposition choke.His fielding is one of the best (not saying the best)going around. So , overall as a cricketer he is of massive utility.

He had a bad day yesterday perhaps one of his worse days tbh.But he has mostly delivered when mattered.
 
Justcrazy said:
Two triple hundreds .
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I heard he has made 3?

He is a good bowler, but struggled in this tournament. The behaviour Pandya showed yesterday after getting out was stupid, Azhar Ali was also out in same way but look at his reaction. Of course it was disappointing but you just can not behave like that in front of your team mate and whole world is also watching.
 
Doesn't deserve a place in LOIs ,we need Kuldeep and K pandya(might not do well) just for at least creating some competition.
 
Both him and Ash are metamorphosing into proper test cricketers, but for fielding alone Jaddu deserves a spot in the LOI team. With Kuldeep in the ranks, I won't be too worried, we need to transition Him as the main spinner before next WC.
 
Jadeja's fielding gets him over the line. Arguably one of the best fielders in the world right now.
 
To be honest he is neither a good bowler not a good batsman. He can be an economical bowler on favorable pitches but he seems lost when countered with alien circumstances. Plus the way he ran Pandeya out yesterday was utterly unforgivable. Looks like he seems to think too much of himself.
 
He's feeble with the bat, but it isn't [i[that[/i] important seeing that he bats at #8.

Decent bowler, especially in test cricketer where I rate him over Ashwin.

Both got spanked this tournament though.
 
"The pain was unbearable some times while playing certain shots" : Ravindra Jadeja

Ravindra Jadeja, who is striving to make a comeback, said that he was focusing more on batting now as MS Dhoni told him that he would be getting batting opportunities in the Indian Premier League this year.

Jadeja’s bowling figures have not been impressive in the ongoing Vijay Hazare Trophy. But the Saurashtra all-rounder is now focusing his attention on batting. “Mahi bhai told me that I will get batting opportunities in the IPL this year. He said that I have the ability of a proper batsman, and I am not the flash in the pan type of batsman. And I should think like that,” Jadeja said in an interview to New Indian Express.

Jadeja, who has been retained by the Chennai Super Kings for this year’s IPL, along with Dhoni, said, “It was really encouraging for me. So, I am concentrating more on the batting aspect of my game and trying to get used to playing the anchor role.”

“I am quite happy with the way I am bowling. In fact, I am focusing more on my batting now. I do not want to be a player who is known for hitting those 20-odd runs. I want to play the anchor role, just like I did today.”

With World Cup only 16 months away, Jadeja is not ignoring his bowling strength and said that he was trying different angles to bowl. “It (pace variation) is the most important thing. I am trying to do that. I am using different angles to bowl.”

Speaking on his performance in Vijay Hazare tournament, he said, “If I get wickets owing to mistakes of batsmen, I am not satisfied from the inside. If I think I have done the things I wanted to do, like varying the pace, I am content with that. If I am satisfied with the way I have bowled, I do not think much about other things. If I am executing my plans, I am happy. The pain was unbearable some times while playing certain shots. But this was really important for my self-confidence. It is morale boosting. To chase the target (330) under the circumstances is really special for me.”

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...n-ipl-this-year-says-ravindra-jadeja-5060939/
 
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Jaddu has the potential to be a decent bat and slogger. But his batting has been a total dud most of the times. If he wants the all rounder spot in Indian lineup, he needs to perform.

As of now, Chahal and Kuldeep have totally taken over the spinners slot for WC.

Also, Jaddu has to realize that he is not a wrist spinner. Traditional offies and Slow left arm spinners are cannon fodder on the ODI and T20 pitches. His time is up, unless he remodels himself into a very good batsman who can hit big in the lower order. Either way, it will be hard for him to make a comeback to LOI team.

I miss his fielding though. Vexed of seeing the likes of Iyer, Jadhav field like headless chicken. Jaddu and Raina were game changers even when they are fielding.
 
I still ask the same question on Nov 2018. This guy falters 9 times out of 10.
 
Well he did for India yesterday. If not for him the match was lost.

He has been in good batting form in test cricket where he gets to show his talent more than LOIs which i don’t think are great platforms for lower order batsmen.

He bats higher up the order for his Ranjo team. Had he been doing it for an associate he would be having test/ODI hundreds.
 
Just one run to score, horrible shot selection
 
You can say the shot was horrible, or strange, depending on how you look at it.
 
Jadeja doesn't win matches with the bat or with ball. It is his overall contribution that makes him useful enough to be a decent backup.
 
Savak said:
I still ask the same question on Nov 2018. This guy falters 9 times out of 10.
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Didn't falter in my opinion. That was a 6 in the last over. Don't know why it was given as a 4. But yeah, once it was down to 1 from 2 balls, you expected Jadeja to win it.
 
He's a cricketer with limited abilities but with fantastic athletism. Don't even believe his domestic stats because he plays for saurashtra. Every player and management personnel's at saurashtra only job is to ensure that jadeja and Pujara are part of Indian team and they go to any extent to ensure that. When Pujara was out of team, they prepared flattest wickets ever to let Pujara score up tons after tons. When jaddu was out of team, they doctored pitches to an incredible degree, jaddu used to open the bowling and picked up 37 wickets in three Ranji Trophy games. Not just that, other spinners were clearly told to not take wickets so that jaddu's stats could be beefed up.
 
happydavy said:
He's a cricketer with limited abilities but with fantastic athletism. Don't even believe his domestic stats because he plays for saurashtra. Every player and management personnel's at saurashtra only job is to ensure that jadeja and Pujara are part of Indian team and they go to any extent to ensure that. When Pujara was out of team, they prepared flattest wickets ever to let Pujara score up tons after tons. When jaddu was out of team, they doctored pitches to an incredible degree, jaddu used to open the bowling and picked up 37 wickets in three Ranji Trophy games. Not just that, other spinners were clearly told to not take wickets so that jaddu's stats could be beefed up.
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Last line is true?

Really?
 
happydavy said:
He's a cricketer with limited abilities but with fantastic athletism. Don't even believe his domestic stats because he plays for saurashtra. Every player and management personnel's at saurashtra only job is to ensure that jadeja and Pujara are part of Indian team and they go to any extent to ensure that. When Pujara was out of team, they prepared flattest wickets ever to let Pujara score up tons after tons. When jaddu was out of team, they doctored pitches to an incredible degree, jaddu used to open the bowling and picked up 37 wickets in three Ranji Trophy games. Not just that, other spinners were clearly told to not take wickets so that jaddu's stats could be beefed up.
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LOL okay then how does that explain Juddu's international numbers? How did the Saurashtran mafia interfere there? :ashwin Although I do admit those pitches in the 2015 season were big turners.
 
Jaddu 2.0 is better comparatively, at least now he us trying to play responsibily and as per match situations.

Still needs to show lot more mprovements in batting before WC'19 starts, to cement regular spot in playing XI :19:
 
Savak said:
This guy has now been around for a long while. I rate his bowling more than his batting, apart from that knock against NZ which he batted out of his skin to help India to draw, i am struggling to point out other meaningful innings that he has played for India.

Everytime i see him bat, he is like a virtual tailender, in today's game India had one real chance of coming back when Pandeya was going great guns and was looking like he could pull off a Jason Mohammad type innings against Pakistan, but Jadeja kept on playing dots and ultimately ran out his partners and didn't even sacrifice himself instead for his team.

How do Indian fans feel about him?
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Last time he played an imapcful knock in odi was in 2013 CT final
Last impactful knock in a non losing cause was in the 3rd odi vs NZ in 2014 which ended in a tie

Last decent knock in losing cause
87 vs England in the 5th odi in 2014



He started slowly
After failing in few opportunities he got,he did well against Eng both home & away but failed in Aus tri series in 2012 and was dropped Again
Then in 2013-2014 he was very good
And one of our best odi players then
Was even ranked no.1 odi bowler and contributed with the bat too
Most of his contribution with the bat came during that time
But after that(if I am not wrong) he had a shoulder injury and has been a very mediocre odi Cricketer,can be compared to someone like Mohammed Nawaz
 
He is good but not all that great.

He will have some good days but he can have his share of off days as well.

However, no doubt, he is one of India's greatest fielder ever.
 
the_outsider said:
LOL okay then how does that explain Juddu's international numbers? How did the Saurashtran mafia interfere there? :ashwin Although I do admit those pitches in the 2015 season were big turners.
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Lol, what's so special about his international numbers - Bowling average of 36? I am not saying Jadeja is like some roadside person who has been made a cricketer by saurashtra management. I am saying he's an ordinary cricketer who has been made looked much better by saurashtra management to get him in national team. Can't be that difficult to understand, or is it?

Abt saurashtra, you should know what is happening this week. BCCI has sent their own curator to prepare the pitch for WI test and niranjan shah is crying river in front of media that bcci is humiliating saurashtra by showing they don't trust them to prepare good pitch for test cricket. But hey I am sure in you we may have an admirer of saurashtra cricket management!
 
His ODI batting and bowling had regressed so badly before he got dropped from the ODIs and T20s (he isn't a very successful T20 player despite having earned his initial fame from Warne at IPL!!).

Showed signs of getting his act together in his comeback Test in England and in Asia Cup. But still a long way to go, has the capability to play big shots. I am still not sure about him playing ODIs though. We would be better giving Krunal Pandya a run.
 
the_outsider said:
Did he debut in 2015? So what exactly is the point of this filter?

A player like Nawaz won't even get picked in a Ranji team most of the time.

It's a joke to compare the two.
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No he didn't
But since 2015 his performance has been poor both with bat & ball
He was one of our best odi players during 2013-2014,even in 2011 he was good
But since 2015 he has been poor so I posted his stats in that period
 
Jadeja has had a good run with the bat in tests. He only gets better the more he gets to bat. Matter of glass being half empty or half full with him, you could say he could have done more with the bat in last two games but well he did stick around for a while and had he been out too soon India would have lost to both Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

India's very traditional with their approach to batting positions, in many teams Jadeja would have got opportunities to bat higher in the order. I reckon he could be as good as Shakib with the bat at least.
 
I think we can rely on Jadeja more than we can on Pandya. Always prefer players who are at least good with either ball or bat rather than bits and pieces players.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I think we can rely on Jadeja more than we can on Pandya. Always prefer players who are at least good with either ball or bat rather than bits and pieces players.
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defnitely a better option depending on conditions. Pandeya was nothing in UAE. Jadeja did well.
 
Jadeja is a very good bowler and while he can hang on for a while with the bat as well, I will prefer Pandya's batting over him in ODIs.

I think both are good enough and can be rotated depending on conditions.

The comparisons with Kapil Dev and other legends are hyperbolic though.
 
Ab Fan said:
Jadeja is a very good bowler and while he can hang on for a while with the bat as well, I will prefer Pandya's batting over him in ODIs.

I think both are good enough and can be rotated depending on conditions.

The comparisons with Kapil Dev and other legends are hyperbolic though.
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Kapil was quite mediocre in tests. Nothing special. Pandya or Jadeja won't have do anything extraordinary to surpass him with the bat. But yes, they r inferior to kapil as far as their bowling is concerned.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Jadeja has had a good run with the bat in tests. He only gets better the more he gets to bat. Matter of glass being half empty or half full with him, you could say he could have done more with the bat in last two games but well he did stick around for a while and had he been out too soon India would have lost to both Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

India's very traditional with their approach to batting positions, in many teams Jadeja would have got opportunities to bat higher in the order. I reckon he could be as good as Shakib with the bat at least.
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And his good run continues in tests. Thanks OP.

First test century for Jadeja. He’s been batting really well. It was long due.
 
RainMan_ said:
Kapil was quite mediocre in tests. Nothing special. Pandya or Jadeja won't have do anything extraordinary to surpass him with the bat. But yes, they r inferior to kapil as far as their bowling is concerned.
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Bro, Kapil has got 434 wickets at avg of 29, being a lone great bowler for his team. He is an Indian great with the bowl itself.

His batting was quite good as well. He has got good record against WI and has got hundreds against some other good bowling attack at a very good SR.

An ATG in tests and ODIs both.
 
RainMan_ said:
Kapil was quite mediocre in tests. Nothing special. Pandya or Jadeja won't have do anything extraordinary to surpass him with the bat. But yes, they r inferior to kapil as far as their bowling is concerned.
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5000 test runs. 434 test wickets. Obviously quite mediocre by Bangladeshi standards. :srini
 
RainMan_ said:
Kapil was quite mediocre in tests. Nothing special. Pandya or Jadeja won't have do anything extraordinary to surpass him with the bat. But yes, they r inferior to kapil as far as their bowling is concerned.
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Of course. Pales in comparison to the legend Shakib Al Hasan.
 
SCG 2018, MCG 2020, Oval 2018 and now Trent Bridge 2021.
I am not sure how many great BOWLING allrounders have played more top knocks against top teams away from home with their bat. I am not even counting home tests.
 
When the match is alive, Jadeja scores useful fifties in tough conditions consistently to win games for us.

Ashwin may have more hundreds but he doesn't have the game changing fifties that Jadeja has in SENA conditions which is why Jadeja is a much better bat than Ashwin.
 
Jadeja started off well with the bat. Then he fell off and started playing like a No.11 for a few years. He has reinvented himself as a batsman again in the last 3 years. I guess once he was kicked out of the ODI team, it was too much for his ego to handle.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
SCG 2018, MCG 2020, Oval 2018 and now Trent Bridge 2021.
I am not sure how many great BOWLING allrounders have played more top knocks against top teams away from home with their bat. I am not even counting home tests.
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You forget lord's 2014 inning
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
SCG 2018, MCG 2020, Oval 2018 and now Trent Bridge 2021.
I am not sure how many great BOWLING allrounders have played more top knocks against top teams away from home with their bat. I am not even counting home tests.
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Can you explain how his batting was the sole reason India won those matches?
 
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