How many PPers here are from the Indian side of Kashmir?

[Strike Rate]

I was just wondering how many posters here are from indian side of Kashmir i have a couple of questions for them

What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?

Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?

If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?

Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?

I have more questions as well will ask them later


If i am not wrong these 3 posters are from their: [MENTION=136874]Saqib Yousuf Yatoo[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=137118]Mir jibran[/MENTION]


Are there any other posters from there as well?

 

[Yatoo]

I'm here.
I support Pakistan in an Indo Pak match. So does everyone I know barring a few "idiots".
Independent.
I can read, write and speak Urdu. Had learn Hindi some decades ago. But forgotten it. Completely. Can still understand it. And yes. The official language of state of Jammu and Kashmir is Urdu.
Our views about Pakistan are different from rest of India. But we also differ in those views among ourselves.

 

[Strike Rate]

I'm here.
I support Pakistan in an Indo Pak match. So does everyone I know barring a few "idiots".
Independent.
I can read, write and speak Urdu. Had learn Hindi some decades ago. But forgotten it. Completely. Can still understand it. And yes. The official language of state of Jammu and Kashmir is Urdu.
Our views about Pakistan are different from rest of India. But we also differ in those views among ourselves.

cool thanks for answering

Have you ever visited Pakistan or Pakistan side of Kashmir?

What about Pakistani channels/news/dramas etc? are they available to you guys there? if available are the popular?

 

[Yatoo]

cool thanks for answering

Have you ever visited Pakistan or Pakistan side of Kashmir?

What about Pakistani channels/news/dramas etc? are they available to you guys there? if available are the popular?

Na. Never visited.
I'm not into the TV stuff. But I remember in 90s, there was an End Fire Antenna (an king of antenna which amplifies signal in one direction) which got very famous in Kashmir as this was only way to get the signal of PTV. It used to a craze. Also Radio Pakistan was famous those days. Especially Islamabad station. Someone near 550Khz or 1180khz.
But with the advent of cable TV, these things are no longer in popular. I guess it has to do with the ban (that's what I think) on broadcast of Pakistan news channels and other entertained channels originating from Pakistan. But yes. During some matches of Pakistan which are only aired on PTV Sports and not telecasted on cable TV here, the cable operators specially provide that telecast. [emoji12]

 

[Strike Rate]

Na. Never visited.
I'm not into the TV stuff. But I remember in 90s, there was an End Fire Antenna (an king of antenna which amplifies signal in one direction) which got very famous in Kashmir as this was only way to get the signal of PTV. It used to a craze. Also Radio Pakistan was famous those days. Especially Islamabad station. Someone near 550Khz or 1180khz.
But with the advent of cable TV, these things are no longer in popular. I guess it has to do with the ban (that's what I think) on broadcast of Pakistan news channels and other entertained channels originating from Pakistan. But yes. During some matches of Pakistan which are only aired on PTV Sports and not telecasted on cable TV here, the cable operators specially provide that telecast. [emoji12]

haha cool! would like to hear more from other kashmiri posters here i think there are only a few maybe 5 to 6 of them are active including you.

 

[Yatoo]

BTW some Shehr-e-Zaat show was very famous. All my collage mates used to follow it. And Fawad Khan's show. I guess whole of India watches these shows.

 

[Strike Rate]

BTW some Shehr-e-Zaat show was very famous. All my collage mates used to follow it. And Fawad Khan's show. I guess whole of India watches these shows.

I think Pakistanis dramas are popular in india these days although i don't really like current dramas because in my view PTV dramas of 90s and 80s were much much better and they were very close to our real life.

 

[Yatoo]

I think Pakistanis dramas are popular in india these days although i don't really like current dramas because in my view PTV dramas of 90s and 80s were much much better and they were very close to our real life.

Let me narrate you another habit of mine. Paet Mai nai rahay ga yeh.
Before Internet came to ruin our lives. And before the era of cable TV. The channels herein India didn't telecast a match not involving India. My source of Pakistan cricket was radio Pakistan. The problem was that commentary never used to he clear in day even when a costly Philips radio was used [emoji12]. So I used to listen to the news from Pakistan radio late at 8:30 IST.
Those days militancy was on peak and there were not so many India Pakistan bilateral series. So I first match of Pakistan which I remember watching on TV was the 99 world Cup final. Rest is history. Pakistan were massacred in that match.

 

[Strike Rate]

Let me narrate you another habit of mine. Paet Mai nai rahay ga yeh.
Before Internet came to ruin our lives. And before the era of cable TV. The channels herein India didn't telecast a match not involving India. My source of Pakistan cricket was radio Pakistan. The problem was that commentary never used to he clear in day even when a costly Philips radio was used [emoji12]. So I used to listen to the news from Pakistan radio late at 8:30 IST.
Those days militancy was on peak and there were not so many India Pakistan bilateral series. So I first match of Pakistan which I remember watching on TV was the 99 world Cup final. Rest is history. Pakistan were massacred in that match.

first watching experience was 99 final? enough to make you stop watching cricket for next 2-3 years as fan Memories of 99 Final still hurt although 96 QF and 2011/87 semi were also painful but 99 was the worst experience.

I think Radio Pakistan and PTV was available in Indian punjab as well i saw Hans Raj Hans (indian folk/sufi singer) mentioning it in different interviews that he spent his whole childhood listening to radio pakistan and watching pakistani dramas. He was a follower of Ashfaq Ahmed

 

[PCP_1]

Pardon my ignorance but I never really got an actual answer from an actual Kashmiri about the whole situation. Do they prefer Pakistan, India or an independent state.

 

[justarslan]

Pardon my ignorance but I never really got an actual answer from an actual Kashmiri about the whole situation. Do they prefer Pakistan, India or an independent state.

Check post #2 in this thread.

 

[PCP_1]

Check post #2 in this thread.

Yes, I read that but I would like a few more opinions.

 

[MSaad1237]

I'm here.
I support Pakistan in an Indo Pak match. So does everyone I know barring a few "idiots".
Independent.
I can read, write and speak Urdu. Had learn Hindi some decades ago. But forgotten it. Completely. Can still understand it. And yes. The official language of state of Jammu and Kashmir is Urdu.
Our views about Pakistan are different from rest of India. But we also differ in those views among ourselves.

Hello Brother .



How's the life in Kashmir bro? It must suck living under the Occupation of over 7 lack Indian troops, it must boil your blood deep down to see these goons inside your territory which is a Jannat really and they have colonized it.


I really wish that Kashmir becomes Independent one day (Neither a part of Pak nor India) .

 

[Madplayer]

Yes, I read that but I would like a few more opinions.

Most kashmiris hold the same view.

 

[Madplayer]

1) the views are completely different than that of India and for me thats the reason i joined PP and not ICF

2) Pakistan (die hard fan)

3) Autonomy under Pak or independent

4) urdu is the official language of the state. I can read and write and speak urdu. I dont think many kashmiris can read or write hindi. The language is alien to us. But i know hindi too.

 

[Madplayer]

Na. Never visited.
I'm not into the TV stuff. But I remember in 90s, there was an End Fire Antenna (an king of antenna which amplifies signal in one direction) which got very famous in Kashmir as this was only way to get the signal of PTV. It used to a craze. Also Radio Pakistan was famous those days. Especially Islamabad station. Someone near 550Khz or 1180khz.
But with the advent of cable TV, these things are no longer in popular. I guess it has to do with the ban (that's what I think) on broadcast of Pakistan news channels and other entertained channels originating from Pakistan. But yes. During some matches of Pakistan which are only aired on PTV Sports and not telecasted on cable TV here, the cable operators specially provide that telecast. [emoji12]

Haha i remember the times during the early 2000s especially 2003 world cup and then 2004 Series vs india. Everybody used to be glued to TV during Pakistan's matches and whenever there was load shedding it used to create an atmoshphere of panic with people running around to get their radio sets to listen to commentary on radio.

99 world cup final i remember vaguely only due to the disappointed reactions of my uncles lol

 

[Firebreaker]

From what I know I have my ancestral roots to Muzaffarabad,Kashmir.I don't know in which country it is because I have never been there.I am an Emirati now

 

[Syed1]

This thread has the potential to be another India vs Pakistan mud slinger..

 

[FreakCricket]

From what I know I have my ancestral roots to Muzaffarabad,Kashmir.I don't know in which country it is because I have never been there.I am an Emirati now

are you arab ?

 

[ChachaCricket]

This thread has the potential to be another India vs Pakistan mud slinger..

Don't think Indians can say much here.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

Pardon my ignorance but I never really got an actual answer from an actual Kashmiri about the whole situation. Do they prefer Pakistan, India or an independent state.

PCP_1 you have been on a roll with statements that make you look like a fool my brother.

First, that Maori conversion statement and then this. Check post 2.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

From what I know I have my ancestral roots to Muzaffarabad,Kashmir.I don't know in which country it is because I have never been there.I am an Emirati now

So, you have your roots in Kashmir. You lived in Nowshera but you are somehow an emarati.

 

[adwords]

If your definition of Kashmir is the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir, then yes i also belong from there
Proud Jai-Hind Indian & supporter of the Indian cricket team

>What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?
I love Pakistan and certainly love to come to Pakistan one day.
Once i drove my Enfield motorcycle trip from Gujarat to Leh/Laddakh with friends, while we are at Amritsar how i wished we could turn our motorcycles to Pakistan via Wagah border, travel inside Pakistan towards Pakistan kashmir and enter Srinagar from there - and goto Leh/Laddakh. Ah in my dreams!! Wish someday in my lifetime i could do that!
I have travelled to South Indian states, city like Chennai where i feel like a foreigner inside my own country (alien language and what not! )
I am 100% sure i will not feel the same if i were in Lahore or Karachi - same food, same language. Thats the reason i am in this forum.
I speak fluent Hindi, English,Urdu
I am a frequent visitor to Srinagar, some of my relatives "stay/are posted" there (and nearby towns)

>Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?
100% India

>If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?
haha, is that a question? of course Jai Hind!!

>Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?
Hindi, English, Urdu, Gujarati

I stopped posting in nationalistic threads here - it just is a waste of time and energy
i wish there could be lasting peace between the 2 countries

 

[Strike Rate]

1) the views are completely different than that of India and for me thats the reason i joined PP and not ICF

2) Pakistan (die hard fan)

3) Autonomy under Pak or independent

4) urdu is the official language of the state. I can read and write and speak urdu. I dont think many kashmiris can read or write hindi. The language is alien to us. But i know hindi too.

Do you guys have soft corner for congress govt when comparing with BJP govt or it's opposite? Have you ever watched a indo-pak cricket match in an indian stadium?

If your definition of Kashmir is the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir, then yes i also belong from there
Proud Jai-Hind Indian & supporter of the Indian cricket team

>What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?
I love Pakistan and certainly love to come to Pakistan one day.
Once i drove my Enfield motorcycle trip from Gujarat to Leh/Laddakh with friends, while we are at Amritsar how i wished we could turn our motorcycles to Pakistan via Wagah border, travel inside Pakistan towards Pakistan kashmir and enter Srinagar from there - and goto Leh/Laddakh. Ah in my dreams!! Wish someday in my lifetime i could do that!
I have travelled to South Indian states, city like Chennai where i feel like a foreigner inside my own country (alien language and what not! )
I am 100% sure i will not feel the same if i were in Lahore or Karachi - same food, same language. Thats the reason i am in this forum.
I speak fluent Hindi, English,Urdu
I am a frequent visitor to Srinagar, some of my relatives "stay/are posted" there (and nearby towns)

>Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?
100% India

>If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?
haha, is that a question? of course Jai Hind!!

>Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?
Hindi, English, Urdu, Gujarati

I stopped posting in nationalistic threads here - it just is a waste of time and energy
i wish there could be lasting peace between the 2 countries

Thanks for sharing your view bro really enjoyed reading them are you from Laddakh? I heard that Buddhisam is the major religion there or they have same population just like muslims of Laddakh is that right?

And yes i agree with you if you travel to Lahore or Karachi you will feel kinda same but same can't be said if you travel to south india.

 

[Strike Rate]

From what I know I have my ancestral roots to Muzaffarabad,Kashmir.I don't know in which country it is because I have never been there.I am an Emirati now

You lived in Nowshera for years and you don't know where is Muzaffarabad, Azad Kashmir? Bhai rawalpindi to gae ho na ya wo nae pata ke kahan he?

 

[adwords]

Do you guys have soft corner for congress govt when comparing with BJP govt or it's opposite? Have you ever watched a indo-pak cricket match in an indian stadium?



Thanks for sharing your view bro really enjoyed reading them are you from Laddakh? I heard that Buddhisam is the major religion there or they have same population just like muslims of Laddakh is that right?

And yes i agree with you if you travel to Lahore or Karachi you will feel kinda same but same can't be said if you travel to south india.

There is no good and bad political party, there are good and bad politicians
I wish there could be visionary politicians on both sides of the border, who really cared for their people. I also wish people dont fight like cats & dogs on Internet forums

I have watched India<>Pakistan WC semi-final in Mohali, and India<>Pakistan T20 match in Colombo, Sri Lanka
In Colombo I was sitting 2 rows behind those guys who were wearing "Viral Kohli Ka Baap" Tshirts , atmosphere there was electrifying and at the end of the match yes there was a scuffle there.
and yes, i would be seeing the India<>Pakistan Wordcup 2016 match also in stadium in Indian stadium

I am Hindu Dogra Rajput from Jammu. My ancestral village is right on the India<>Pakistan international border near Jammu.
I run a multi-million US$ Internet marketing/Ecommerce business in Gujarat, and some of my VA's (virtual assistants) on Internet come from cities like Sialkot, Faisalabad etc.
I interact/talk to them on skype, and believe me - those people are exactly opposite of many people i see in online forums like here.
I guess when u interact them on personal level, things are 100% opposite what u read in forums, and we realise we are the same people.

 

[Strike Rate]

There is no good and bad political party, there are good and bad politicians
I wish there could be visionary politicians on both sides of the border, who really cared for their people. I also wish people dont fight like cats & dogs on Internet forums

I have watched India<>Pakistan WC semi-final in Mohali, and India<>Pakistan T20 match in Colombo, Sri Lanka
In Colombo I was sitting 2 rows behind those guys who were wearing "Viral Kohli Ka Baap" Tshirts , atmosphere there was electrifying and at the end of the match yes there was a scuffle there.
and yes, i would be seeing the India<>Pakistan Wordcup 2016 match also in stadium in Indian stadium

I am Hindu Dogra Rajput from Jammu. My ancestral village is right on the India<>Pakistan international border near Jammu.
I run a multi-million US$ Internet marketing/Ecommerce business in Gujarat, and some of my VA's (virtual assistants) on Internet come from cities like Sialkot, Faisalabad etc.
I interact/talk to them on skype, and believe me - those people are exactly opposite of many people i see in online forums like here.
I guess when u interact them on personal level, things are 100% opposite what u read in forums, and we realise we are the same people.

Thanks for sharing your experience and you interaction with Pakistanis yes and i agree with you in real life it's totally different specially if you a pakistani and indian face each other in another country i have this experience in UK when i was there and i really enjoyed it.

If i am not wrong your nickname adwords also came from marketing your business over google adwords? It's cool if you know how to target audience but don't you think if your sites are ranked high for your relevant keywords in google mean SEO than your sites can do much better without spending a high budget on adwords monthly?

 

[adwords]

Thanks for sharing your experience and you interaction with Pakistanis yes and i agree with you in real life it's totally different specially if you a pakistani and indian face each other in another country i have this experience in UK when i was there and i really enjoyed it.

If i am not wrong your nickname adwords also came from marketing your business over google adwords? It's cool if you know how to target audience but don't you think if your sites are ranked high for your relevant keywords in google mean SEO than your sites can do much better without spending a high budget on adwords monthly?

haha, yes i use to do some HEAVY Google adwords back in those years when i sign up at this forums
But subsequent Google updates like Panda and Penguin ruin my SEO business during 2008-2012 years, my network of about 400 websites were crashed by google in no time
Now instead of Google, my No 1 Go-To PPC Advertising website is Facebook (i paid like $200K to Facebook advertising in 2014 alone)
In 2012-2015 i looked at ecommerce and began to arbitrage Indian/China goods from aliexpress/ebay.com to US markets, i built my own shopify ecommerce webstores
Also my major success came from Community Tshirt apparel websites like Teespring.com , Viralstyle.com
Grab a concept/trending topic, make shirt design on that and Advertise that on Facebook. I am guilty on making Tshirts (and profiting from it) on trending topics, i will give u an example:
When Israel was bombing Gaza like hell last year, i made 3-4 Tshirts designs for "palestinians" cause and market it heavily thro Facebook, and sold a LOT in US/UK
Maybe somebody from here would have seen those Tshirts in their Facebook Newsfeeds during those time, the odds are - that was me.
I made like $35K within 15 days , and at the end - i also donated some of the money to a Islamic charity in US
Another example, that Ice Bucket challenge - i made some good numbers with that too
Right now, i am doing good numbers with NHL, basketball shirts in the US - and jewelry arbitrage from aliexpress to US

sorry to take this thread offtopic, but since u asked about my IM biz

 

[Strike Rate]

haha, yes i use to do some HEAVY Google adwords back in those years when i sign up at this forums
But subsequent Google updates like Panda and Penguin ruin my SEO business during 2008-2012 years, my network of about 400 websites were crashed by google in no time
Now instead of Google, my No 1 Go-To PPC Advertising website is Facebook (i paid like $200K to Facebook advertising in 2014 alone)
In 2012-2015 i looked at ecommerce and began to arbitrage Indian/China goods from aliexpress/ebay.com to US markets, i built my own shopify ecommerce webstores
Also my major success came from Community Tshirt apparel websites like Teespring.com , Viralstyle.com
Grab a concept/trending topic, make shirt design on that and Advertise that on Facebook. I am guilty on making Tshirts (and profiting from it) on trending topics, i will give u an example:
When Israel was bombing Gaza like hell last year, i made 3-4 Tshirts designs for "palestinians" cause and market it heavily thro Facebook, and sold a LOT in US/UK
Maybe somebody from here would have seen those Tshirts in their Facebook Newsfeeds during those time, the odds are - that was me.
I made like $35K within 15 days , and at the end - i also donated some of the money to a Islamic charity in US
Another example, that Ice Bucket challenge - i made some good numbers with that too
Right now, i am doing good numbers with NHL, basketball shirts in the US - and jewelry arbitrage from aliexpress to US

sorry to take this thread offtopic, but since u asked about my IM biz

That's a cool experience yea google panda just ruined many online businesses and from what i heard there is no panda update from last 8-10 months maybe google is no more going to continue it and coming up with another strange things for web masters lol so i think panda is inactive/dead just like google pagerank that uses to be a measure of your website credibility but if i am not wrong PR was last time update 2 years ago back in 2013 so it's dead.

Now coming back to your topic of PPC advertising yes i agree with you it can generate alot if you know how to use the popular trends and this also give you the features to access the best market for your product (by age, by location, by interests etc). Aliexpress is cool to get best prices for bulk items i know a few wholesaler here they use it as well and there is another site from china dhgate or something.

about offtopic nah thats fine i was also interested in your nick thats why i asked. there is another similar nick poster here as well with the name ads101 or something.

 

[adwords]

continuing with the topic of IM...
Everybody makes money when they work, making money when u sleep is cool
Apart from teespring.com/viralstyle.com, I have built a network of 5 Shopify ecommerce webstores that sold Tshirt apparel in the US
My local Graphic designer (in India) designs who pass those designs to my VA's, my VA's (which are in India and Phillipines/Pakistan) uploads those designs on my webstores - past 8 months we have accumulated about 4000 custom designs and hosted them on our ecommerce shopify websites
We use Paypal and 2Checkout as payment gateways
I have 2 dropshippers in US whom the website orders goes, and they print and dropships in the US & allover the world
Now that business runs on auto-pilot , with NO paid ads - all traffic comes from Google, Pinterest and search engines naturally
last month i was more or less on vacation, and still those websites makes me $XX,XXX per month figures
Now thats "making money in your sleep" , i have practically forgotten that biz
making wealth/value is all about creating auto pilot systems
ps: i cannot send PM to u, otherwise i could have shown u URL of 1 of my store

 

[Strike Rate]

continuing with the topic of IM...
Everybody makes money when they work, making money when u sleep is cool
Apart from teespring.com/viralstyle.com, I have built a network of 5 Shopify ecommerce webstores that sold Tshirt apparel in the US
My local Graphic designer (in India) designs who pass those designs to my VA's, my VA's (which are in India and Phillipines/Pakistan) uploads those designs on my webstores - past 8 months we have accumulated about 4000 custom designs and hosted them on our ecommerce shopify websites
We use Paypal and 2Checkout as payment gateways
I have 2 dropshippers in US whom the website orders goes, and they print and dropships in the US & allover the world
Now that business runs on auto-pilot , with NO paid ads - all traffic comes from Google, Pinterest and search engines naturally
last month i was more or less on vacation, and still those websites makes me $XX,XXX per month figures
Now thats "making money in your sleep" , i have practically forgotten that biz
making wealth/value is all about creating auto pilot systems
ps: i cannot send PM to u, otherwise i could have shown u URL of 1 of my store

Yea thats the beauty of online businesses because in most of them you can make money while sleeping without any issue. Shopify is getting evry popular these days but i think Magento and WooCommerce are also popular?

 

[adwords]

Yea thats the beauty of online businesses because in most of them you can make money while sleeping without any issue. Shopify is getting evry popular these days but i think Magento and WooCommerce are also popular?

My forte is Internet Marketing, i am not coder and programming is not my strength.
I cannot create Magento/WooCommerce stores (and maintain) myself - they certainly require programming high learning curve (compared to shopify IMO)
Magento programmers and not very easy to find, and they demand hefty $ for store creation and maintaining them
I dont quite like Wordpress platform (on which woocommerce is based), can be easily injected by virus/trojans etc
I personally find shopify to be a very easy platform for starters, i dont need any coder to work on shopify, even my Graphics designer now creates & maintain shopify stores for me
Shopify certainly have a monthly fees (29/79 etc depending upon your plan), but it gives me less headache and i can focus on my strength (marketing) while free from programming/maintaining my store.

 

[Strike Rate]

My forte is Internet Marketing, i am not coder and programming is not my strength.
I cannot create Magento/WooCommerce stores (and maintain) myself - they certainly require programming high learning curve (compared to shopify IMO)
Magento programmers and not very easy to find, and they demand hefty $ for store creation and maintaining them
I dont quite like Wordpress platform (on which woocommerce is based), can be easily injected by virus/trojans etc
I personally find shopify to be a very easy platform for starters, i dont need any coder to work on shopify, even my Graphics designer now creates & maintain shopify stores for me
Shopify certainly have a monthly fees (29/79 etc depending upon your plan), but it gives me less headache and i can focus on my strength (marketing) while free from programming/maintaining my store.

yea i agree shopify is better for you because it's easy to manage

 

[JaDed]

I think Pakistanis dramas are popular in india these days although i don't really like current dramas because in my view PTV dramas of 90s and 80s were much much better and they were very close to our real life.

Yup till PTV was caught through antennas they were famous and 1999-2014 nothing but now again after Zindagi channel which is actually streaming almost all the Pakistani dramas most Indians(esp Females) are glued to them including my mother but not my dad(due to nationlist issue ) .And tbh they are much better probably coz they have a definite timeline of episodes unlike the Soaps on this side of the border.

 

[Strike Rate]

Yup till PTV was caught through antennas they were famous and 1999-2014 nothing but now again after Zindagi channel which is actually streaming almost all the Pakistani dramas most Indians(esp Females) are glued to them including my mother but not my dad(due to nationlist issue ) .And tbh they are much better probably coz they have a definite timeline of episodes unlike the Soaps on this side of the border.

haha talking about those soaps i remember there was some drama on star plus with the name kum kum or something and it continued for 4 or 5 consective years lol and some girls/guys were crazy about it although i hated star plus don't know the exact reason but i never liked star plus.

 

[JaDed]

haha talking about those soaps i remember there was some drama on star plus with the name kum kum or something and it continued for 4 or 5 consective years lol and some girls/guys were crazy about it although i hated star plus don't know the exact reason but i never liked star plus.

Kukum yeah argh terrible soaps all of Balaji telefilms owned.Star is annoying its owned by Murdoch News corporation.

 

[Strike Rate]

Kukum yeah argh terrible soaps all of Balaji telefilms owned.Star is annoying its owned by Murdoch News corporation.

and ekta kapoor

 

[JaDed]

and ekta kapoor

Yup she owns Balaji..but she is having issues with Star ever since they cancelled her long running crap shows.She is more into Sony nowadays i guess along with YashRaj.Too many corporations nowadays can't even remember who owns what but i'm sure Colors,CNNIBN and all those are owned by Mukesh Ambani and ZEE owned by Chandra and Essel.
Will be honest DoorDarshan is the best channel with most proper news and no sensationalizing stuff.

 

[Sidilicious]

Kudos to all. For once this thread hasn't become an India vs Pak mud slinging competition.

In fact, people are actually talking about useful stuff like marketing and SEO. Why can't all threads remain such as this.

 

[Strike Rate]

Yup she owns Balaji..but she is having issues with Star ever since they cancelled her long running crap shows.She is more into Sony nowadays i guess along with YashRaj.Too many corporations nowadays can't even remember who owns what but i'm sure Colors,CNNIBN and all those are owned by Mukesh Ambani and ZEE owned by Chandra and Essel.
Will be honest DoorDarshan is the best channel with most proper news and no sensationalizing stuff.

yea too many corporate these days. DoorDarshan is a govt channel just like PTV in Pakistan and PTV is really decent when you compare it with other masala channels but only downside of state own channels and specially PTV is that its all about praising current govt and them look like angels while criticizing opposition. Today Nawaz Shareef is that angel yesterday it was Zardari before him it was Musharraf, Zia and the list goes on and on. And it's not only limited to PTV News but the whole PTV network. To give you an example Imran Khan is probably the greatest ever pak cricketer but you will hardly see a pic of him on PTV Sports while they make and broadcast cricket documentaries on every other xyz cricketer from pak including convicted fixers and documentaries on cricketers from outside Pakistan. And that's just because he is in opposition. If you see those PTV post/pre match programs you will notice the host don't miss a chance to criticize imran khan the cricketer and love to praise miandad (although both are greats and from same era)

 

[Strike Rate]

Kudos to all. For once this thread hasn't become an India vs Pak mud slinging competition.

In fact, people are actually talking about useful stuff like marketing and SEO. Why can't all threads remain such as this.

Will try my best to keep this thread clean (although i also get emotional sometimes but that's mostly when someone provoke). I guess we needed a neutral thread to to learn more about people from other side of the border.

 

[JaDed]

yea too many corporate these days. DoorDarshan is a govt channel just like PTV in Pakistan and PTV is really decent when you compare it with other masala channels but only downside of state own channels and specially PTV is that its all about praising current govt and them look like angels while criticizing opposition. Today Nawaz Shareef is that angel yesterday it was Zardari before him it was Musharraf, Zia and the list goes on and on. And it's not only limited to PTV News but the whole PTV network. To give you an example Imran Khan is probably the greatest ever pak cricketer but you will hardly see a pic of him on PTV Sports while they make and broadcast cricket documentaries on every other xyz cricketer from pak including convicted fixers and documentaries on cricketers from outside Pakistan. And that's just because he is in opposition. If you see those PTV post/pre match programs you will notice the host don't miss a chance to criticize imran khan the cricketer and love to praise miandad (although both are greats and from same era)

Yup agree on that but i think the saddest thing for PTV was losing all olden dramas or shows i read that somewhere in DAWN.Those shows and dramas could had been huge on Youtube, i still watch many DD ones there and i don't see a reason why Pakistani people who grew up then wouldn't watch those.

 

[Strike Rate]

Yup agree on that but i think the saddest thing for PTV was losing all olden dramas or shows i read that somewhere in DAWN.Those shows and dramas could had been huge on Youtube, i still watch many DD ones there and i don't see a reason why Pakistani people who grew up then wouldn't watch those.

They didn't lose all they are just lazy otherwise they still have a huge archive but don't want to touch it. Former PTV Sports MD mentioned that he was really interested to find and publish/share those gems from past but staff was just lazy and pathetic. Very few people know Benazir used to host a current affair program on PTV back in mid 70s when his father was PM. Here is a pic of that from PTV archive uploaded by former PTV MD but i guess the staff is just too lazy to upload some clips

 

[Slog]

They didn't lose all they are just lazy otherwise they still have a huge archive but don't want to touch it. Former PTV Sports MD mentioned that he was really interested to find and publish/share those gems from past but staff was just lazy and pathetic. Very few people know Benazir used to host a current affair program on PTV back in mid 70s when his father was PM. Here is a pic of that from PTV archive uploaded by former PTV MD but i guess the staff is just too lazy to upload some clips

WOW

Never knew that

 

[JaDed]

They didn't lose all they are just lazy otherwise they still have a huge archive but don't want to touch it. Former PTV Sports MD mentioned that he was really interested to find and publish/share those gems from past but staff was just lazy and pathetic. Very few people know Benazir used to host a current affair program on PTV back in mid 70s when his father was PM. Here is a pic of that from PTV archive uploaded by former PTV MD but i guess the staff is just too lazy to upload some clips

Wow amazing but that is stupidity why won't they want people to remember the creative Pakistan, imo Pak was wayy ahead in those years one of the best in Asia.Sometimes i really don't understand who handles the PR for Pakistan very poor honestly can connect so many expats to their homeland as well.

 

[Strike Rate]

Wow amazing but that is stupidity why won't they want people to remember the creative Pakistan, imo Pak was wayy ahead in those years one of the best in Asia.Sometimes i really don't understand who handles the PR for Pakistan very poor honestly can connect so many expats to their homeland as well.

Till 70s and to some extent early 80s we were really going well but than the downfall started with Zia and those new born politicians he created (those are now the pm's and ministers of pak) and later PPP also did the suicide and selected the same corrupt path. They have no interest in showing the world the real face of Pakistan their interests are short term based on corruption. If you read or go through the pics of Pakistan from 50s to 70s you will realize how some people destroyed that beautiful creative Pakistan for their own benefits. Pakistan need a leader not these corrupt politicians the nation need a leader to lead them from the front and put them back on track. Pakistan is full of politicians but there is not a single leader.

 

[Strike Rate]

[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] there was a legendary thread by [MENTION=78856]akheR[/MENTION] you should visit it some pics are no more there but some gems are still there http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...he-Pakistan-of-the-Past-through-rare-pictures

btw where is he? it's been long time not seen him active

 

[veeray]

What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?
Totally different from Indian public.(almost everyone here loves Pakistan..and I don't know why..and I also love Pakistan..)

Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?
Always Pakistan.actually every time Pakistan is playing it is kind of a holiday here were I live.most students don't go to schools. Most businessmen keep their shops closed.
If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?
Independent there are some groups who would love to be with Pakistan.
Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?
Urdu is our official language.Hindi most can understand some can write.

 

[hussain123]

I was just wondering how many posters here are from indian side of Kashmir i have a couple of questions for them

What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?

Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?

If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?

Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?

I have more questions as well will ask them later


If i am not wrong these 3 posters are from their: [MENTION=136874]Saqib Yousuf Yatoo[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] [MENTION=137118]Mir jibran[/MENTION]


Are there any other posters from there as well?

Most of the muslim population is pro pakistan.that sentiment has been for past 60 years and i have hardly crossed a kashmiri who hasnt a postive image of pakistan.their are also some people who castigate pakistan for bringing gun culture in the society which they believe gave india a green signal to carry genocide of kashmiris.their are also shias who have absolute venom against Pakistan.no sooner you mention the word pak, they would throw in some expletives towards pakistan.those who do it are some of my best friends.
As far as cricket, even the mainstream pro indian politicians support pakistan leave alone the general population.even my shia friends are ok with supporting pakistan on a cricket field.
I dont what was the mood earlier, but newer generation in kashmir wants independence. They want a soveriegn kashmir whose fate and destiny is in the hands kashmiris themselves.their is also a school of thought who want to cede to pakistan but that group is rapidly diminishing.even syed ali shah geelani has sort of reconciled and changed his motto from jugular vein of pakistan to independence of kashmir.i dont know what is in store for kashmiris in the future.however, here I am just hoping natural justice takes the precedence.

 

[Strike Rate]

What are your views about Pakistan? Are they same like majority of indian public or different?
Totally different from Indian public.(almost everyone here loves Pakistan..and I don't know why..and I also love Pakistan..)

Which team do you guys support in an indo-pak match?
Always Pakistan.actually every time Pakistan is playing it is kind of a holiday here were I live.most students don't go to schools. Most businessmen keep their shops closed.
If given a chance to select would you like to live with India, Pakistan or Independent?
Independent there are some groups who would love to be with Pakistan.
Can you speak/understand Urdu or Hindi?
Urdu is our official language.Hindi most can understand some can write.

thanks for sharing your views now it's getting interesting i always thought there are only a couple of posters here from j&k but now i am getting surprised because the numbers are increasing let's see how many more there are.

Posters from Azad Kashmir can also contribute.

 

[Strike Rate]

Most of the muslim population is pro pakistan.that sentiment has been for past 60 years and i have hardly crossed a kashmiri who hasnt a postive image of pakistan.their are also some people who castigate pakistan for bringing gun culture in the society which they believe gave india a green signal to carry genocide of kashmiris.their are also shias who have absolute venom against Pakistan.no sooner you mention the word pak, they would throw in some expletives towards pakistan.those who do it are some of my best friends.
As far as cricket, even the mainstream pro indian politicians support pakistan leave alone the general population.even my shia friends are ok with supporting pakistan on a cricket field.
I dont what was the mood earlier, but newer generation in kashmir wants independence. They want a soveriegn kashmir whose fate and destiny is in the hands kashmiris themselves.their is also a school of thought who want to cede to pakistan but that group is rapidly diminishing.even syed ali shah geelani has sort of reconciled and changed his motto from jugular vein of pakistan to independence of kashmir.i dont know what is in store for kashmiris in the future.however, here I am just hoping natural justice takes the precedence.

I hope things will get better for you people there and i support you if you guys want to live independently and happily instead of living with Pakistan or India. About the shia sentiment i can understand their views and its probably changed in last 15 years where all this shia sunni thing started in Pakistan and media is also hyping it but trust me it's still not as bad as media portray it (of course there are some issues but not everywhere and some are not even religious people they are just creating these issues between sects because they are being paid to create the trouble).

The area where i live we have Wahabis, Sunnis, Shias and even Christians and all are living in peace from decades we celebrate different events together without any issues.

 

[JaDed]

[MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION] there was a legendary thread by [MENTION=78856]akheR[/MENTION] you should visit it some pics are no more there but some gems are still there http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...he-Pakistan-of-the-Past-through-rare-pictures

btw where is he? it's been long time not seen him active

Thanks just saw amazing

 

[junaid.ahmed]

They didn't lose all they are just lazy otherwise they still have a huge archive but don't want to touch it. Former PTV Sports MD mentioned that he was really interested to find and publish/share those gems from past but staff was just lazy and pathetic. Very few people know Benazir used to host a current affair program on PTV back in mid 70s when his father was PM. Here is a pic of that from PTV archive uploaded by former PTV MD but i guess the staff is just too lazy to upload some clips

zabardast yarr...!!!

 

[Strike Rate]

Thanks just saw amazing

I remember akheR used to come up with some really good threads in TP but i guess he is no more active.

 

[hussain123]

I hope things will get better for you people there and i support you if you guys want to live independently and happily instead of living with Pakistan or India. About the shia sentiment i can understand their views and its probably changed in last 15 years where all this shia sunni thing started in Pakistan and media is also hyping it but trust me it's still not as bad as media portray it (of course there are some issues but not everywhere and some are not even religious people they are just creating these issues between sects because they are being paid to create the trouble).

The area where i live we have Wahabis, Sunnis, Shias and even Christians and all are living in peace from decades we celebrate different events together without any issues.

Thanks man.well as far shias, the hate comes more off the relationship between pakistan and iran, where they think both pakistan and weatern powers are conspiring together to destabilize iran.

 

[MSaad1237]

We Pakistanis, love our Kashmiris bro/sis and would be happy if you guys become Independent

 

[Strike Rate]

Thanks man.well as far shias, the hate comes more off the relationship between pakistan and iran, where they think both pakistan and weatern powers are conspiring together to destabilize iran.

so it's one of the reason? lol some shias here think like that too they think Pakistan is conspiring against Iran by having good relations with Saudis. But the reality is that from now Pakistan and Iran will need each other more than Pakistan need Saudis because of CPEC and Gawadar and having good relations will help both countries.

 

[PCP_1]

PCP_1 you have been on a roll with statements that make you look like a fool my brother.

First, that Maori conversion statement and then this. Check post 2.

Well it seems only Madplayer got the Maori joke which makes it even more t3h funny for me. In this thread I simply wanted more than one opinion for making a more balanced judgement regarding an entire populace.

Having said that, my stupidity level does seem to have increased recently, the wife has increasingly mentioned that and although I don't generally tend to believe her in such cases, many of my accquaintances have agreed with the diagnosis. The dogs too seem to bark at me reproachfully, babies seem to start crying frantically whenever I pass by them and although I can't be sure about this but the same three jeering crows seem to be following me around everywhere.

 

[hussain123]

so it's one of the reason? lol some shias here think like that too they think Pakistan is conspiring against Iran by having good relations with Saudis. But the reality is that from now Pakistan and Iran will need each other more than Pakistan need Saudis because of CPEC and Gawadar and having good relations will help both countries.

I dont think they mind if pakistan has good relations with any middle east country which is hostile to pakistan. What angers them is the perception that pak army runs on american finger tips.they also hold it responsible for killong bhutto who happens to be a shia.

 

[hussain123]

We Pakistanis, love our Kashmiris bro/sis and would be happy if you guys become Independent

Thanks man

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

Well it seems only Madplayer got the Maori joke which makes it even more t3h funny for me. In this thread I simply wanted more than one opinion for making a more balanced judgement regarding an entire populace.

Having said that, my stupidity level does seem to have increased recently, the wife has increasingly mentioned that and although I don't generally tend to believe her in such cases, many of my accquaintances have agreed with the diagnosis. The dogs too seem to bark at me reproachfully, babies seem to start crying frantically whenever I pass by them and although I can't be sure about this but the same three jeering crows seem to be following me around everywhere.

Hahaha brilliant as always. The last paragraph. I would have asked you to explain the Maori joke but then it would have taken out the joke element.

 

[Yatoo]

Well it seems only Madplayer got the Maori joke which makes it even more t3h funny for me. In this thread I simply wanted more than one opinion for making a more balanced judgement regarding an entire populace.

Having said that, my stupidity level does seem to have increased recently, the wife has increasingly mentioned that and although I don't generally tend to believe her in such cases, many of my accquaintances have agreed with the diagnosis. The dogs too seem to bark at me reproachfully, babies seem to start crying frantically whenever I pass by them and although I can't be sure about this but the same three jeering crows seem to be following me around everywhere.

Three crows or three eyed crow?
If later then you might be Brandon Stark.

 

[Yatoo]

Hello Brother .



How's the life in Kashmir bro? It must suck living under the Occupation of over 7 lack Indian troops, it must boil your blood deep down to see these goons inside your territory which is a Jannat really and they have colonized it.


I really wish that Kashmir becomes Independent one day (Neither a part of Pak nor India) .

The place where I live hasn't seen much of militancy. Apart from very early 90's which I don't remember, there were never militants operating around here. But yes, we do have two battalions of BSF and RR who have occupied some very fertile apple fields. And they used to terrorize some a decade ago. But now things are normal. Army doesn't interfere with the locals (mostly).
Everyone wants demilitarization at the earliest as now militancy is virtually zero. Also the barbaric AFSPA should be repealed.

In the long run, we want Self Determination. But as it stands the Indian Constitution doesn't accept any territory of India to decide it's matters by Plebiscite.

 

[Yatoo]

Haha i remember the times during the early 2000s especially 2003 world cup and then 2004 Series vs india. Everybody used to be glued to TV during Pakistan's matches and whenever there was load shedding it used to create an atmoshphere of panic with people running around to get their radio sets to listen to commentary on radio.

99 world cup final i remember vaguely only due to the disappointed reactions of my uncles lol

We used to run around during load shedding finding someone who had battery to operate TV.

 

[hussain123]

So it means ,the locals have problems with those kashmiri pundits, whose ancestors were living there even before, the kashmir became islamic state am I right.

Dude, you dont know **** about kashmir.these pandits used to treat kashmiris as deneaning serfs when we were ruled by dogras.in 1887, their was a huge drought in kashmir which killed more than 2 lakh muslims and all thanks to pandit brethren, bckz they wernt rlwasing the food grains.they have been in hand in glove with every oppressor whosoever has ruled us starting from mughals to dogras.and now under indian rule, they have abetted and aided indian state at every step in kashmir. Infact, most of the delhis narrative over kashmir was creamed up by pandits.they are too many stories to tell.i dont blame them fkr anything but one thing I have found is their hate for kashmiri muslims is unprecedented.

 

[Bewal Express]

The elites of both countries want to conflict to continue, after all there are billions to be made from commissions from arms purchases and their children get to go the best schools and go to University in America or the UK but it's the poor blighters on the ground that get blown to smithereens. Let Kashmir be independent and let's get on with tackling the real enemy of the 2 countries- poverty.

 

[Slog]

Any other off topic posts will be dealt with strongly.

Take your rubbish elsewhere and stop making things up to make a point

 

[Vayuu]

So your interactions with some random pakistani in some hotel in china is the basis that majirity in Pakistan thinks the same? Is that what you are trying tosay? Or your whole story is cooked to prove kashmiris as ungrateful people?do you what a common kashmii wants? He wants you to respect your oromise you made to the kashmirs and to the world at large.and if demandimg that makes us ungrateful. So be it

What was the demand of the kashmiri tell me then ,you got saved in 48 if i remember correctly , you were one of the most prosperous state in india till late 80's, you get a healthy chunk of state budgets, your students get free quota in colleges , good jobs, respect is earned not given, despite this if you still spit venom, than I don't find any appropriate word than ungrateful.

 

[Vayuu]

Any other off topic posts will be dealt with strongly.

Take your rubbish elsewhere and stop making things up to make a point

Point taken, my lord this was the last post ,regarding kashmir and kashmiri's

 

[Vayuu]

Any other off topic posts will be dealt with strongly.

Take your rubbish elsewhere and stop making things up to make a point

And it's not things I have met people, who actually said this.

 

[hussain123]

What was the demand of the kashmiri tell me then ,you got saved in 48 if i remember correctly , you were one of the most prosperous state in india till late 80's, you get a healthy chunk of state budgets, your students get free quota in colleges , good jobs, respect is earned not given, despite this if you still spit venom, than I don't find any appropriate word than ungrateful.

Lol.we got saved from whom? They were tribals who were releasing kashmir from that aurptorpcratic dogra ruler.it was dogra king who bought you here to protect its regime and to come to hard at the kashmiri uprising.also that idiot aheikh abdullah thought his pedigree will be gone, once kashmir becomes independent.your army committed lots of crimes back then too.those jobs and those seats are not given for free.wernt indians gerting jobs, education etc under british rule.they even built some class educational institutions here.railway which came to kshmir in 2006 was installed by britishers in 19th century.and werent your leaders jl nehru and others ungrateful who studied in oxbrige but used that to the detriment of british rule in india.does this add up???.take you jingnoistic rhetoric to some where else.

 

[hussain123]

What was the demand of the kashmiri tell me then ,you got saved in 48 if i remember correctly , you were one of the most prosperous state in india till late 80's, you get a healthy chunk of state budgets, your students get free quota in colleges , good jobs, respect is earned not given, despite this if you still spit venom, than I don't find any appropriate word than ungrateful.

And this money is used to strangle your hold in kashmir. Anyways, all thise funds consumed up by your paid up puppets here.and these are not the bucks you throw at ua, it ia the price you pay for enslaving a nation.take your money and everything, just keep up your oromise.that willl do

 

[Vayuu]

Yeah tribals from nwfp or fata as they say so, how do you know what happened then, you don't have iota of knowledge, if you are comparing British india to kashmir, ,you guys can buy land anywhere in india, but we can't do that in kashmir ,I can go on and on on this mate.

 

[Strike Rate]

you guys can buy land anywhere in india, but we can't do that in kashmir ,I can go on and on on this mate.

Well it's same for Pakistani Kashmir none of the Pakistani citizen can purchase land there while they can buy anywhere in the Pakistan and that's because Kashmir disputed territory. In Pakistani Kashmir they also have their own Prime Minister and President and assembly they don't come under Federal Govt and there are no member of national assembly from Azad Kashmir.

 

[hussain123]

[/B]
Well it's same for Pakistani Kashmir none of the Pakistani citizen can purchase land there while they can buy anywhere in the Pakistan and that's because Kashmir disputed territory. In Pakistani Kashmir they also have their own Prime Minister and President and assembly they don't come under Federal Govt and there are no member of national assembly from Azad Kashmir.

Believe me, even if india had maintained its autonomy and let the head of jandk decide its domestic economy, polity etc.things may nit have got to such a pass.but through out tgese 60 years, they have only installed its puppets here and made jandk a laborotary of its political games.

 

[Strike Rate]

Believe me, even if india had maintained its autonomy and let the head of jandk decide its domestic economy, polity etc.things may nit have got to such a pass.but through out tgese 60 years, they have only installed its puppets here and made jandk a laborotary of its political games.

Yes and that's why it backfired for them. One thing is proven in all these decades the only solution of this issue is that we need to give the right of vote to Kashmiris so they can decide their own future instead of us forcing them.

 

[JaDed]

After a good and healthy discussion thread got derailed.

 

[hussain123]

Yes and that's why it backfired for them. One thing is proven in all these decades the only solution of this issue is that we need to give the right of vote to Kashmiris so they can decide their own future instead of us forcing them.

Plebiscite is still a dream.with every move india makes to that superpower club, it will be increasingly difficult to find a solutuon favourable to kashmiris and pakistan. I think musharraf's four point formula was a good one.i dont what problems india had with that

 

[Strike Rate]

Plebiscite is still a dream.with every move india makes to that superpower club, it will be increasingly difficult to find a solutuon favourable to kashmiris and pakistan. I think musharraf's four point formula was a good one.i dont what problems india had with that

Yea i think that was the best time to solve this issue and we missed it. I remember in start Syed Ali Gillani was against it? and IIRC he and Musharraf didn't like each other.

 

[hussain123]

After a good and healthy discussion thread got derailed.

Thanks to mr vayuuu who started with saying kashmiris should get heck out of kashmir.i know their mostly good people from both countries on this forum.but it requires few to derail an otherwise beautiful thread.