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How much longer can Sarfaraz Ahmed's lack of performances be tolerated?

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Another dismal performance with the bat. How long can this be tolerated.


He is just pure rubbish.
 
lol the knives are out. At least give Sarfraz some time. He is young and inexperienced. He needs more time.
 
we should kick him out immediately why our selectors have closed their eyes cant they find one decent wicket keeper BATSMAN in the whole country he is embarissing us big time now
 
MRSN said:
lol the knives are out. At least give Sarfraz some time. He is young and inexperienced. He needs more time.
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Sorry buddy but he is experienced enough for Afghanistan yet still failed...
 
Getting out to a full toss by medium pacer..... when that happens you should your time is up.
 
He should be kicked out from the team.Enough is enough.He along with his Buddies should be no where near the team.Absolutely pathetic player.
 
If i remember, he scored century in 2015 world cup opening the batting. I expected him to open when he became captain. Any idea why he moved to lower middle order?
 
The bottom line is you first select the best XI and then you select the captain out of that XI. A wicket keeper who scores about one fifty every 6 months is simply not good enough.
 
Rubbish performances with the bat and keeps getting out in pathetic ways.

Needs to have a serious overview of his own performances.
 
Sarfraz only has himself to blame. Has a great record at number 4 but isn’t willing to bat there.
 
Boi said:
Sarfraz only has himself to blame. Has a great record at number 4 but isn’t willing to bat there.
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pretty much, 5 is as low as he can go

he needs to do something soon otherwise time is up. Give Rizwan another go with Fahkar or babar as captain
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Getting out to a full toss by medium pacer..... when that happens you should your time is up.
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Mental block. Should have aimed for other side of the wicket. He was practicing the same stroke even after his dismissal. Mickey's painta should fix him.
 
Sarfraz is piling the pressure on himself. He is nudger not a slogger. He should've been doing what Malik was doing and together they could've finished the game. Today wasn't even about his batting position, it was terrible decision making. It's unfortunate if at the age of 32, he's unaware of what he is capable of.
 
Time for Sarfraz to face the music. I supported him, I still support him as captain but he has to start performing. He should be batting at 4 or 5 and should be performing consistently. If he doesn't get his act together than he needs to be sacked.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
pretty much, 5 is as low as he can go

he needs to do something soon otherwise time is up. Give Rizwan another go with Fahkar or babar as captain
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There's no point in changing things before the world cup. Pakistan as a unit are as settled as they've been in the last 5/6 years. By changing the captain you run the risk of affecting the balance, morale etc of the team.

Put Sarfraz on notice and let him know his position in the team and as captain will be re-evaluated after the world cup. It might make sense to go with a younger option after the world cup anyway.
 
RickyG said:
There's no point in changing things before the world cup. Pakistan as a unit are as settled as they've been in the last 5/6 years. By changing the captain you run the risk of affecting the balance, morale etc of the team.

Put Sarfraz on notice and let him know his position in the team and as captain will be re-evaluated after the world cup. It might make sense to go with a younger option after the world cup anyway.
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I have backed him since 2014 and i still do, but he needs to figure this out. his best cricket has come at the top order but he is playing below when he struggles to hit from the word go.
 
He was slow on that ball from the medium pacer; his reflexes have slowed down considerably; as a cricketer thats the death warrant
 
After the CT he should have woken up and realised he is not a top 6 batsmen. Play him at 7/8 and bring in some proper batsmen in the top 6.

I would go with

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Malik
Talat
 
Rizwan is not an option. He should never play for Pakistan again.
 
Wow, let’s bring back Akmal or Hafeez, maybe Misbah or Afridi ( we sure missed him today). U guys seriously think Babr is ready, or Fakhar can be a good captain.
Babar needs time to groom, the only other option we have is Shadab, he is great with players but he too need sometime
Leave it if it’s not broken for now
Sarfraz needs to step up there’s no question about it
 
Rizwan should never play cricket period. Every shot the guy plays makes me laugh out loud. The most ridiculous batsman I have ever seen.
 
get rid of him and give captaincy to Malik. Why does he come in at 6 when he doesn't have the power game.
 
How many threads by the same posters are there going to be on the same topic??

On topic, Sarfaraz is going nowhere. Deal with it.
 
Kick him out now, before its too late for the WC. Get anyone from domestics, he is pathetic. There got to be someone better than him out there, Rizwan, or anyone. Make Fakhar ( never mind his two failure ) the captain or give it to Shoaib till the WC.
 
Can't really drop the captain. We gonna have to put up with him im afraid. Insha Allah he will improve eventually.
 
The problem is we expect too much from an average/good batsman .

He is a good captain but an above average player , should be batting at 6/7/8 an not at 4 or 5 position.

Also currently we have no other option except KAMI and rizwan who are both worse than him because of their respective issues.
 
We should not be surprised. Barring a purple patch in 2013-2014, he has always been a third class player. Normalcy has been restored - mediocrity always catches up with you.

Very mediocre cricketing skills, zero personality, zero communication skills, no aura and no field presence either. A nobody like him captaining Pakistan sums up our decline as a cricketing nation.
 
We should really have another option for WK unless something happens to Pakistan. Maybe we could rest a couple of games and play a young WK. With that being said who is Pakistan's current VC?
 
Pakistan need to find a new wicketkeeper who can bat and Rizwan is not the answer for that. the ODI captainship should be handed over to Malik. Test captaincy with Sarfraz and for T20 a youngster like Babar or Fakhar could be a great option
 
Its not only him. The whole team is timid and lacks batting strength. Only Babar is class.
 
Challenging his cricketing ability is fine, but personal attacks are not cool. You should be able to look beyond personality and speaking-ability given that you are an educated individual. On a lighter note, DAAL ROTI TIME!!
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
pretty much, 5 is as low as he can go

he needs to do something soon otherwise time is up. Give Rizwan another go with Fahkar or babar as captain
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I say this with no malice to Mickey, but Sarfaraz will find himself out of a job if he keeps listenting to the coach about batting order. It’s clear he doesn’t have the game for batting lower down the order. So he has to do two things:
Insist on batting at 4
Improve his fitness dramatically so that he can bat at 4 and keep as well
 
His body language was pathetic today and the way he looked annoying and animated after each and every delivery the bowlers bowled just added that extra pressure on the fielders . This guy acts like a clown sometimes ...he should stop giving over the board reactions always . Just can't get over his body language .
 
Sarfaraz Ahmed in ODIs since the Champions Trophy
8, 6, 6*, 13*, 3, 51, 14*, 3, 8, 5 and 1
Total of 118 runs
Average of 14.75
 
I would LOVE to see him go. This guy doesn't belong in the team, and I am not a huge fan on his captaincy.

But lets face it , he isn't going to get dropped anytime soon.

He needs to bat in the top four , but I don't know how we can achieve that.

He is going to become a bigger and bigger headache
 
Sarfraz had an absolute 'mare today.

I'm not one of his biggest critics, but I can also see his deficiencies at the moment.

Today I felt he was appalling. His decision making out on the field was pathetic and almost cost Pakistan the game.

Bowling wrong bowlers at the wrong time. Not being more innovative and changing his field placings when Afghanistan were milking the runs.

Then when Asghar was hitting the boundaries with ease he continued to bowl a rank average bowler in Nawaz [despite the early wickets] to Afghani captain who had taken a shine to him.

Then came the batting. The way he got out showed a man struggling with the basics of batting. To get out to a full-toss with the epitome of average.

Think Pakistan also missed a chance of promoting Asif Ali up the order again. He can't just come in to bat when we need runs, he can be more important than that, surely?!

Pakistan got very lucky today, despite brilliants knocks from Imam, Babar and Malik, and brilliant bowling from Shaheen Afridi. The rest were average.
 
It's definitely a reality check overall the level of the team isn't high there will have to be improvement to beat the best teams in the future.
 
Getting out to a juicy full toss, when he comes out to bat broadcasters should give his batting part to comedy channel.. the guy is a disgrace.
 
He's just not performing right now but it's difficult to replace him in the team. The PCB have done absolutely nothing to develop an alternative wicket keeper. There is currently no one with any experience who could potentially replace him. There's only Kamran, who can bat but is terrible behind the stumps, and Rizwan who is ok as a wicket keeper but his batting is really lacking for the international game.
 
We really need to replace him, but when it comes to Kamran Akmal I still believe we are OK with him. I really don't want these Akmals near to our newly built team
 
A guy who is abjectly poor with the bat, will by a miracle become a decent bat if he moves up the order.... no he will not. The guy is just not upto the job.

Micky and inzi keep him on because he's a useful puppet. Get rid of him after Asia cup. This B S from Mickey and Inzi has to stop.
 
The only guy who could possibly replace him so close to a World Cup is Kamran Akmal.

Think about that before you start calling for his head.
 
hitthestump said:
The only guy who could possibly replace him so close to a World Cup is Kamran Akmal.

Think about that before you start calling for his head.
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Then scrap entire FC cricket, if you can't find a replacement.

My preferred option would be for fakhar to take the gloves.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Then scrap entire FC cricket, if you can't find a replacement.

My preferred option would be for fakhar to take the gloves.
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You're right in that there is no natural replacement for him close to the squad - because there's never been any attempt to create one.

I imagine it was a purposeful management design to ensure no alternative would be groomed for Saffie in any form of the international game so his place would never come under legitimate threat.

Nonetheless, we're way too close to the WC to start wild experimentations like giving Fakhar the gloves. If we really need a replacement now, the only feasible solution we have available is the great TTF Akmal saab.
 
He will captain still the World Cup. But for me if we lose the bilateral against the big teams by big margins and don't get to the semis, I would sack him after the WC. But for now he isn't going anywhere.
 
hitthestump said:
The only guy who could possibly replace him so close to a World Cup is Kamran Akmal.

Think about that before you start calling for his head.
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Oh yeah that old excuse to defend Sarfraz's place. I have been hearing this excuse for last five years. Aa Eagle_eye said just scrap the fc and don't try to find replacements. We should never drop Nawaz because then Imad might replace him? We should never drop Shan Masoood because Imran Farhat might replace him? Lol from all the excuses this is the one that is most annoying of them all. Basically we can't find an average wicket keepr batsman to replace this below average wk batsman in our whole system?
 
We tolerated Kami for 5 years after 2010 horror show
We can tolerate saifi till 2019 WC easily
 
If Sarfraz is dropped who will be your captain?

That's the main challenge. I don't see anyone who is a regular XI and can be made captain.

Malik was the only other option but obviously that is not happening again.
 
the_outsider said:
If Sarfraz is dropped who will be your captain?

That's the main challenge. I don't see anyone who is a regular XI and can be made captain.

Malik was the only other option but obviously that is not happening again.
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It's not that hard. All we need is to find an angry player who can shout regularly.
 
KingKhanWC said:
After the CT he should have woken up and realised he is not a top 6 batsmen. Play him at 7/8 and bring in some proper batsmen in the top 6.

I would go with

Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Haris
Malik
Talat
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Talat at 6? We only got Fakhar (Power Hitter) in top 6.
 
Mind-boggling, forget about Sarfraz's form and fitness, what if he gets injured close to WC or during , do we have a replacement for him. Why Inzi and company don;t keep an understudy or reserve WK in the the squad? How can a player like Sarfraz play 100% matches in all the formats ?
 
MRSN said:
Oh yeah that old excuse to defend Sarfraz's place. I have been hearing this excuse for last five years. Aa Eagle_eye said just scrap the fc and don't try to find replacements. We should never drop Nawaz because then Imad might replace him? We should never drop Shan Masoood because Imran Farhat might replace him? Lol from all the excuses this is the one that is most annoying of them all. Basically we can't find an average wicket keepr batsman to replace this below average wk batsman in our whole system?
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You haven't even tried to factor in the effect of replacing the captain in all formats, unless you think it's irrelevant?

Again, you'd be taking a big risk to overhaul the leadership right now when this team has some chance of winning the WC as it is. You'd be taking an even bigger risk to try and blood a youngster right now. After the WC it's a totally different matter. Players like Imad and Shan Masood are incomparable examples for this reason.
 
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I think it's got to the point where Kamran could probably come into the team right now and outperform Sarfraz. We bashed (myself especially) for Kamran's low standard performances and inconsistently even as a batsman and now Sarfraz after previously redefining the batting standards for a Pakistani wicketkeeper, showing it wasn't just alright to average mid 20s, now seems to be becoming the same. If he wasn't captain, maybe Kamran coming in would give him some competition and spur him to improve.

A captain who doesn't perform really isn't inspiring at all.

I don't think he should be dropped, the alternatives aren't great, and I do think Sarfraz has the ability to do better, and he did win us the CT as captain. Just needs to start performing sharpish. Atm feels like a lack of discipline is his shots, and no real resolve to grit it out there.

If he was relieved of captaincy and that caused him to start performing again, I might take that. His performance with the bat has dipped ever since he became captain. But I'm not sure who else can become captain, nor am I especially sure it will make a difference or not.
 
hitthestump said:
You haven't even tried to factor in the effect of replacing the captain in all formats, unless you think it's irrelevant?

Again, you'd be taking a big risk to overhaul the leadership right now when this team has some chance of winning the WC as it is. You'd be taking an even bigger risk to try and blood a youngster right now. After the WC it's a totally different matter. Players like Imad and Shan Masood are incomparable examples for this reason.
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A leader that doesn't inspire his side or cannot lead from the front and has a crying face during crunch situation has no right to lead. It just shows this side was not winning because of this overrated hype captain but because of their individual brilliannce.
 
The problem is that we really don't have a better captaincy option than Sarfaraz in this team. I think Sarfaraz is putting too much pressure upon himself by batting in the higher middle order. He should bat at number 8 behind the likes of Shadab Khan, Faheem Ashraf etc. He is an OK batsman to be a no.8.
 
RickyG said:
There's no point in changing things before the world cup. Pakistan as a unit are as settled as they've been in the last 5/6 years. By changing the captain you run the risk of affecting the balance, morale etc of the team.

Put Sarfraz on notice and let him know his position in the team and as captain will be re-evaluated after the world cup. It might make sense to go with a younger option after the world cup anyway.
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I quite agree with this comment. As a leader we currently havent got any option with only.months left in the worldcup now
 
K4Kohli said:
get rid of him and give captaincy to Malik. Why does he come in at 6 when he doesn't have the power game.
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Malik is done after the worldcup. Malik has been tried and tested as a leader. The only reason he is consistent bexause he doesnt have the pressure of being a captain
 
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