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Tough times for Muslims - but what options do they have as far as Ayodia is concerned?
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Hindu terrorist will be more emboldened after this verdict and try to demolish more mosques. Protect other mosques and accept the decision.
I live in hyderabad, India &'I work as .Net tech lead in a US based MNC here in hyderabad.
I have roamed around here after the verdict & things r as normal as they are.
Nothing will happen but BJP's next step is implementation of NRC in some states.
Other mosques will remain as they are & nothing will happen to them as even Indian muslims knew this fact & hence no riots or any disputes till now
If god can't protect his house than we poor muslims can't do anything we muslims has no strength to stop themGood point about other mosques now.
Hindu terrorist will be more emboldened after this verdict and try to demolish more mosques. Protect other mosques and accept the decision.
Had verdict gone other way only then you would have seen violence and other mosques destroyed.
Verdict saved the life’s of ordinary minorities.
Masjid allah ka ghar hai aur hum mazloom log ke pass itni taqat nahi hai ke une rok paye allah hame aur uske ghar ki hifaazat karne ki toufeeq ata farmaye
Koi shak ??mai zinda is watan mein hua hoon aur marunga bhi is e watan mein i am a proud indian muslimYou're Indian muslim?
Koi shak ??mai zinda is watan mein hua hoon aur marunga bhi is e watan mein i am a proud indian muslim
Masjid allah ka ghar hai aur hum mazloom log ke pass itni taqat nahi hai ke une rok paye allah hame aur uske ghar ki hifaazat karne ki toufeeq ata farmaye
Masjid allah ka ghar hai aur hum mazloom log ke pass itni taqat nahi hai ke une rok paye allah hame aur uske ghar ki hifaazat karne ki toufeeq ata farmaye
Correctly said
But if we muslims accept this verdict then in future they will going to destroy any masjid and going to say that this is hanumanjis jungle in the past and we need this place to vacant
You're Indian muslim?
Indian muslims can't do much by this disgraceful sequence of events by the kangaroo court as they're overpowered by sheer numbers.
However, they should refuse the plot of land given as a mere token. It seems you're free to roam around and destroy other faiths places of worship and then be rewarded for it.
We are not beggars we are rulers we will never accept that land allah har cheez dekh raha ek din allah zaroor insaaf karega babri masjid ke haq mein shahid hone walo hum musalman sharminda hai aapke khoon ko hamne zaya kar diya ho sake toh hume maaf karna
You see the rest of us Indians as your enemies?
You see the rest of us Indians as your enemies?
Everyone has to accept the verdict.
Ofcourse the otherside can file a review petition.
There are two more contentious mosques at very holy hindu sites. Kashi and Mathura. Cases will be fought for those two as well. Dont think anyone is interested in any other mosque.
Everyone has to accept the verdict.
Ofcourse the otherside can file a review petition.
There are two more contentious mosques at very holy hindu sites. Kashi and Mathura. Cases will be fought for those two as well. Dont think anyone is interested in any other mosque.
Saaf Saaf kyu nhi bolte ki Muslim idhar nhi rahena chahiye.
Agar ye hi chahte to 1947 mein mauka tha aur kanoon bhi.
Most every mosque will be found to be built on Hindu temple sites in due time. Babri masjid and the two you mentioned are just openers to test the water. Once the Hindu hardliners see they have gained traction, they can look to expand the initiative.
Hum ne khoon pasina lagaya is desh ko azaad hone me aur kyu jaaye?
That cannot happen.
The basis of the Ayodhya verdict is that Birth place of Ram is holy to hindus, and hence their right to worship their holds primacy.
Now Babri Masjid hold no such significance for muslims, it was just another mosque like 1000 others. Just like there were 1000s of temples in ancient india.
Kashi and Mathura are similarly holy.
Not all mosques are same, neither are all temples.
The basis of the Ayodhya verdict that mosque was built on birth place of Ram is disputed, and only recently was debunked, and in fact there was a thread here about it. India is quite an immature country, one of the first acts of Modi when he took power was to destroy thousands of historical documents which provided historical reference. He is born from RSS movement which will put Hindu interests above accuracy.
I am sorry, but I cannot accept verdicts coming out of India at present.
Just the way they are doing right now.
They're are all happy that this is finally done with and everyone can move on now.
Really a sad day for being a indian muslim
I expect this but i have little hope on supreme court but that hope is also dead today
nobody going to save us from this hindutva goons in feature ya allah please help our future generations every hindu has a little grudge on muslim because we(muslims)ruled india in the past
The basis of the Ayodhya verdict that mosque was built on birth place of Ram is disputed, and only recently was debunked, and in fact there was a thread here about it. India is quite an immature country, one of the first acts of Modi when he took power was to destroy thousands of historical documents which provided historical reference. He is born from RSS movement which will put Hindu interests above accuracy.
I am sorry, but I cannot accept verdicts coming out of India at present.
Then dnt accept so. Who told you to accept. After every weekend gets over I also never accept that it's Monday . But it never changed or became significant for some other.
Everything is peaceful. I have been living in lucknow since last 1 year. Ayodhya is hardly 120 km approx from here
If you don't accept Mondays come after weekends, this just shows that I am correct not to take stuff coming out of India at face value. Emotions override evidence when Hindutva fervour is the driving factor.
Dnt think hindus would have accepted much. I am not sure. But thing is this land has much much significance for hindus than for the muslims. For muslims it was just another mosque.
I am sure with in 5 acres, one of the world's largest or famous mosque cud be built. And hindus wud help and may come to pray also. t
I said I dnt accept so does it change the fact? Facts remains the same. It won't be changed whatever madrasa education teaches. So if you dnt accept certain things , it's nobody else problem.
Bhai forget Indian muslims even whole subcontinent muslims never ruled India. Those were invaders. You are bhartiya.
If tomorrow I changed my religion to Muslim, cud I say that we ruled India. I dnt think so.
Secondly I suspect you are Indian Muslim.
Third even if you are, you should be happy that finally dispute is over and you know it very well, this land had not much significance for you guys but this land has been like mecca madina for hindus.
We are not interested in 5 acres,it's not just about land and the reason why we are fighting because if we lose then you will claim more temples that were taken.
It happened today so the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] and on twitter,people on Icf started talking about Mathura,Kashi.
Rome started with one city, they conquered territory and assimilated the people they conquered into their civilization. Even today most Western Europeans view it as a golden age.
Same thing with the the invaders to the subcontinent. They did not bring women with them, they intermarried with the locals, and sent missionaries to convert people. These people eventually created their own subcontinent Muslim civilization. There is no difference between them. A person in Lahore with the surname Bhatti (Rajput) and Bukhari (Turk) will have the exact same culture.
By viewing Muslim empires as foreign, you give moral justification to destroy their heritage and feign outrage when we get upset.
An RSS sympathizer trying to call other extremists. lol
Rome started with one city, they conquered territory and assimilated the people they conquered into their civilization. Even today most Western Europeans view it as a golden age.
Same thing with the the invaders to the subcontinent. They did not bring women with them, they intermarried with the locals, and sent missionaries to convert people. These people eventually created their own subcontinent Muslim civilization. There is no difference between them. A person in Lahore with the surname Bhatti (Rajput) and Bukhari (Turk) will have the exact same culture.
By viewing Muslim empires as foreign, you give moral justification to destroy their heritage and feign outrage when we get upset.
Rome started with one city, they conquered territory and assimilated the people they conquered into their civilization. Even today most Western Europeans view it as a golden age.
Same thing with the the invaders to the subcontinent. They did not bring women with them, they intermarried with the locals, and sent missionaries to convert people. These people eventually created their own subcontinent Muslim civilization. There is no difference between them. A person in Lahore with the surname Bhatti (Rajput) and Bukhari (Turk) will have the exact same culture.
By viewing Muslim empires as foreign, you give moral justification to destroy their heritage and feign outrage when we get upset.
We are not interested in 5 acres,it's not just about land and the reason why we are fighting because if we lose then you will claim more temples that were taken.
Dnt think so. I am currently living in lucknow and you know that lucknow ihas quite good Muslim population. Everything is peaceful. Ayodhya is not far from lucknow.
Second I dnt think it wud be easy to claim more lands or many would be interested. I have heard about this ayodhya ram mandir dispute since childhood .Dnt believe in rumours or social media trash.
Thank you! A lot of people always bring up race and the fact that Pakistanis are descended from Hindus and Buddhists(not that it's bad) as if it makes us less Muslim compared to Arabs.
No problem with Pakistanis identifying themselves as "as Islamic as Arabs "
But when they start false bragging about their supposed rule over India and Hindus in particular for thousand years , which is wrong on so many levels , they must be corrected.
Why the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] are saying about Mathura,Kashi?
Oh bhai. By Where do you guys bring such new trash every day . There is nothing to be ashamed of your ancestral roots. Fact is whole subcontinent muslims never ruled india. They are just us. Bhatti rajput and Indian rajput certainly has 99 percent common than 1 percent bukhari (turk) , except religion.
No problem with Pakistanis identifying themselves as "as Islamic as Arabs "
But when they start false bragging about their supposed rule over India and Hindus in particular for thousand years , which is wrong on so many levels , they must be corrected.
Lol why would anyone keep their maternal surname. Those Bhattis you're referring to are direct converts either under duress or not. They just decided to keep their Hindu surname even after conversion. It's the same with Chowdharies, Jatts, Gujjars etc.
And lol at having more in common with the Turks. There is no shame in accepting your ancestral roots.
It happened today so the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] and on twitter,people on Icf started talking about Mathura,Kashi.
Why the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] are saying about Mathura,Kashi?
There was a significant Hindu population in both Lahore and Karachi. In fact they have a rich history and presence since vedic culture.I am not even talking about the smaller towns. Can someone tell me how many temples are left there? If someone can provide the pre and post partition stats of temples, I am willing to sit all day and take moral and secular lectures.
The beauty of Indian democracy and secularism is that the claim for one of the most important religious structures for the majority community had to go through the supreme court.
People were indecisive for so many years to even think what would happen if this matter was pushed ahead.
Kudos to the current government to end this matter for once and for all.
Also disputing structures, isn't that against the principles of islam to not have attachment to man made idols/structures?
Would have been great had they just given Hindus as a gesture of peace. I have heard a lot of well educated folk say the same. However like always it was the Muslim politicians and admins who made it a bigger issue.
In the end win-win for all
The beauty of Indian democracy and secularism is that the claim for one of the most important religious structures for the majority community had to go through the supreme court.
People were indecisive for so many years to even think what would happen if this matter was pushed ahead.
Kudos to the current government to end this matter for once and for all.
Also disputing structures, isn't that against the principles of islam to not have attachment to man made idols/structures?
Would have been great had they just given Hindus as a gesture of peace. I have heard a lot of well educated folk say the same. However like always it was the Muslim politicians and admins who made it a bigger issue.
In the end win-win for all
From what I read Muslims were willing to hand it over to them, but they wanted assurances that no other Mosque would be destroyed. If this is the only one I dont think anyone would have a problem.
Why the likes of [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] are saying about Mathura,Kashi?
Because they are the holiest of hindu pilgrimage sites. More appropriate question is why are you fighting for the mosques to remain as is when it is clear that these mosques were built by demolishing temples which was a well known practice in those days ?
Do you think problem has ended?
Its just get started.
Correctly said
But if we muslims accept this verdict then in future they will going to destroy any masjid and going to say that this is hanumanjis jungle in the past and we need this place to vacant
It has almost ended.
That matter was decided by court so no need to drag demolishing temples.
As of now but not in future.
That matter was decided by court so no need to drag demolishing temples.
Iam talking about Kashi and Mathura.
As per Islamic law No mosque can be built in place of a temple.
As per Islamic law No mosque can be built in place of a temple.
Yes if you want to destroy my religons mosques and lynching my brother's blood on road get ready for 1day that is also comingYou see the rest of us Indians as your enemies?