How should Muslims in India react to the Ayodhya verdict?

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think India should spare no expense and showcase the world on bringing the community together. They should spend a lot of money on the temple as well as on the Mosque to be built.

What a way to showcase bringing communities together. First demolish the mosque with rampaging mobs, then give it the rubber stamp of approval through your official courts.

 

[Kroll]

It’s weird to see Pakistanis rooting for communal riots and trying to incite violence. When will our neighbors learn that violence is not answer to everything. INDIAN Muslims got to be one of the most civilized Muslims in the world.
They truly believe in Quran which says nothing happens without the will of Allah. In a complex country like India, not every decision taken will be understood by people living in homogeneous countries. INDIAN Muslims consider themselves Indians first.

So, Pakistanis are wondering why are INDIAN Muslims not taking it out to the streets to protest this decision? When people are contended and have too much to lose, they will not be doing things to jeopardize their comfortable life. Indian Muslims are 200 million strong and even if 10% decide to start a protest like in the MENA countries, they can make their voices hear around the world.

Think you're making up stuff dude. Show me the posts on these boards where this is happening?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It’s weird to see Pakistanis rooting for communal riots and trying to incite violence.

This is a blatant lie. The Pakistanis are actually CONDEMNING commnal violence - the violence of rampaging Hindu mobs that led to the destruction of the mosque in the first place.

 

[Captain caveman]

It’s weird to see Pakistanis rooting for communal riots and trying to incite violence. When will our neighbors learn that violence is not answer to everything. INDIAN Muslims got to be one of the most civilized Muslims in the world.
They truly believe in Quran which says nothing happens without the will of Allah. In a complex country like India, not every decision taken will be understood by people living in homogeneous countries. INDIAN Muslims consider themselves Indians first.

So, Pakistanis are wondering why are INDIAN Muslims not taking it out to the streets to protest this decision? When people are contended and have too much to lose, they will not be doing things to jeopardize their comfortable life. Indian Muslims are 200 million strong and even if 10% decide to start a protest like in the MENA countries, they can make their voices hear around the world.

Please highlight the post and poster who called for indian muslims to start a riot.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

They should accept the land, build their mosque but then also build a small multifaith centre + facilities for the poor (health, education or even just a homeless centre). Show the nation and world what the difference is between those who tear down buildings/try to burn bridges and those who want to do the opposite.

 

[moghul]

Nothing wrong with conceding defeat when its imminent . Indian Muslims are defeated by Hindu majority in Ayodhya mosque case and they should accept it and move on . No need for shedding blood over it.

 

[Kroll]

They should accept the land, build their mosque but then also build a small multifaith centre + facilities for the poor (health, education or even just a homeless centre). Show the nation and world what the difference is between those who tear down buildings/try to burn bridges and those who want to do the opposite.

By accepting the land, it will show they're at the mercy of bullies and zealots who can do whatever they please.

 

[Captain caveman]

By accepting the land, it will show they're at the mercy of bullies and zealots who can do whatever they please.

Refusing the land will make no difference, they will still be at the mercy of bullies. That is what happens when you are an oppressed minority.
Might as well accept the over and move on.

 

[Captain caveman]

Refusing the land will make no difference, they will still be at the mercy of bullies. That is what happens when you are an oppressed minority.
Might as well accept the over and move on.

*Correction
Offer

 

[Kroll]

Refusing the land will make no difference, they will still be at the mercy of bullies. That is what happens when you are an oppressed minority.
Might as well accept the over and move on.

Yeah, but by refusing it will be like sticking two fingers up at the court ruling which have "directed" the Waqf board be allocated the land. The Waqf board should not be privy to this Hindutva ruling.

I'm not saying contest the decision, just refuse the handout and move on.

 

[Captain caveman]

Yeah, but by refusing it will be like sticking two fingers up at the court ruling which have "directed" the Waqf board be allocated the land. The Waqf board should not be privy to this Hindutva ruling.

I'm not saying contest the decision, just refuse the handout and move on.

I didn't think of that.
Yes that would be a better option, keep your dignity, but i think the oppressors will build the mosque regardless as they won't want to lose face.

But i think i agree, refuse the land and refuse to be part of this sham.
Well done bro!

 

[Slog]

out of curiosity - and I def dont know this so pardon my ignorance - were the people who destroyed the mosque ever brought to justice? Becase I think even the court would agree that the move was illegal

 

[Gabbar Singh]

out of curiosity - and I def dont know this so pardon my ignorance - were the people who destroyed the mosque ever brought to justice? Becase I think even the court would agree that the move was illegal

The court cases are ongoing with everyone out on bail. But many of those charged will be dead before the cases ever conclude.


https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-with-criminal-conspiracy/article18661463.ece

 

[Pakistanian]

They should accept the land, build their mosque but then also build a small multifaith centre + facilities for the poor (health, education or even just a homeless centre). Show the nation and world what the difference is between those who tear down buildings/try to burn bridges and those who want to do the opposite.

Are you willing to donate? It's funny demanding a community to build a multifaith center and health facilities for the poor just cause their last place of worship was destroyed by extremists.

 

[Enlighten]

Indian Muslims should to what the British neutrals suggest, otherwise they would be considered spineless cowards who might as well convert to Hinduism.

 

[Captain caveman]

Indian Muslims should to what the British neutrals suggest, otherwise they would be considered spineless cowards who might as well convert to Hinduism.

Indian muslims should do what is best for them, as they live in a dangerous oppressive country.
British muslims on the otherhand, live in a beautiful , free country, with no fear of religious persecution and are able to express themselves freely.
This is probably what shocks you and your countrymen the most!

 

[run-out]

Kisi ne jaane ko kaha bhi nahin. Na 1947 mein aur na ab.

Jese kisi ke kehne se chale jaynge.. humara khoon bhi hai shaamil is mitti me Ye hindustan kisi ke baap ka thodi he

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian muslims should do what is best for them, as they live in a dangerous oppressive country.
British muslims on the otherhand, live in a beautiful , free country, with no fear of religious persecution and are able to express themselves freely.
This is probably what shocks you and your countrymen the most!

Let Indian muslims decide where they live, British muslims can do whatever they want, no one is bothered in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Jese kisi ke kehne se chale jaynge.. humara khoon bhi hai shaamil is mitti me Ye hindustan kisi ke baap ka thodi he

Hinduon ko kaise nikala gaya tha pakistan se,sabko pata hai. Aaj bhi waha se har saal hazaroan aate hai India.

Kya Musalmano ko India mein kabhi aise hua hai?

Aur Rahat Indori ka sher kehne se kuch nahi badalega.

1947 mein faaisle hua tha, Ek mulq musalmano ka ek Hinduon ka. Musalmano ka mulq bana, Hinduon ne apna mulq Secular banaya.

 

[Captain caveman]

Let Indian muslims decide where they live, British muslims can do whatever they want, no one is bothered in India.

Thats what i said, let indian muslims do whats best for them!
Gosh, you are so defensive!
The world can criticise, you dont have to take notice and you dont have to be the defender of your country all the time, but i do admire your patriotism.

 

[CRIC_FANtastic]

The basis of the Ayodhya verdict that mosque was built on birth place of Ram is disputed, and only recently was debunked, and in fact there was a thread here about it. India is quite an immature country, one of the first acts of Modi when he took power was to destroy thousands of historical documents which provided historical reference. He is born from RSS movement which will put Hindu interests above accuracy.

I am sorry, but I cannot accept verdicts coming out of India at present.

That is fine. In your bigoted mind, you will not be able to accept anything coming out of India. I am curious why are you so interested in India?

Do you have any proof supporting Modi destroyed historical document? Even then, Modi came to power in 2014. The court has sighted the ASI report from 2003. The Director of that survey was a Muslim - KK Muhammed. I understand your Modi-phobia, but you can do better than baseless accusation.

 

[Captain caveman]

That is fine. In your bigoted mind, you will not be able to accept anything coming out of India. I am curious why are you so interested in India?

Do you have any proof supporting Modi destroyed historical document? Even then, Modi came to power in 2014. The court has sighted the ASI report from 2003. The Director of that survey was a Muslim - KK Muhammed. I understand your Modi-phobia, but you can do better than baseless accusation.

If you guys keep saying that theres proof of the babri mosque being built on top of a mandir, i am keep.going to refer you to the SC judges judgement that there was NO PROOF what the earlier building was!!!

I dont even care, but i will hold liers to account!!!!

 

[Mohammad zuber]

Hinduon ko kaise nikala gaya tha pakistan se,sabko pata hai. Aaj bhi waha se har saal hazaroan aate hai India.

Kya Musalmano ko India mein kabhi aise hua hai?

Aur Rahat Indori ka sher kehne se kuch nahi badalega.

1947 mein faaisle hua tha, Ek mulq musalmano ka ek Hinduon ka. Musalmano ka mulq bana, Hinduon ne apna mulq Secular banaya.

Kabhi history padi hai tune sadak chaap whatsapp unvisety ke student
First education minister is muslim
Missile man is a muslim apj kalaam
Oscar award winner is a muslim ar.rehmaan
Tu khali typing ke siwa ye kuch kiya hai desh ke liye

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That is fine. In your bigoted mind, you will not be able to accept anything coming out of India. I am curious why are you so interested in India?

Do you have any proof supporting Modi destroyed historical document? Even then, Modi came to power in 2014. The court has sighted the ASI report from 2003. The Director of that survey was a Muslim - KK Muhammed. I understand your Modi-phobia, but you can do better than baseless accusation.

I am not curious about India per se, just when you are in a group situation you usually will talk to other people in the group. PP has a huge number of Indians who contribute, so there is no point in sitting in a corner sulking about it, I will engage with my neighbours. I have always been a big proponent of multicuturalism, even though its's not popular these days.

 

[andy0204]

Kabhi history padi hai tune sadak chaap whatsapp unvisety ke student
First education minister is muslim
Missile man is a muslim apj kalaam
Oscar award winner is a muslim ar.rehmaan
Tu khali typing ke siwa ye kuch kiya hai desh ke liye

Are bhai aise logon ke piche mat lago inka kaam hi hai ke IT cell me baith ke logo ko dhyaan dosri taraf batana.

 

[JaDed]

Kabhi history padi hai tune sadak chaap whatsapp unvisety ke student
First education minister is muslim
Missile man is a muslim apj kalaam
Oscar award winner is a muslim ar.rehmaan
Tu khali typing ke siwa ye kuch kiya hai desh ke liye

Get your language in order if not you won’t survive 3 days on this forum, go back to whatsapp if thats how you wanna speak.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kabhi history padi hai tune sadak chaap whatsapp unvisety ke student
First education minister is muslim
Missile man is a muslim apj kalaam
Oscar award winner is a muslim ar.rehmaan
Tu khali typing ke siwa ye kuch kiya hai desh ke liye

Maine gaali di? Nahi na? Kyu de raha hai phir?

Kisi ne Musalmano ke contribution ko nakara? Nahi.

Maine sirf ye kaha ki 1947 mein baat Hindu mulk banne ki this. Isi baat pe bantwara hua tha. Par hinduon ne secular mulk banaya. Kyun?

Kyunki koi bhi nahi chahta ki kisi musalman ko kabhi ye naa laage ki ye mulk uska nahi.

Ye mulk sabka hai.

 

[kk1992]

Maine gaali di? Nahi na? Kyu de raha hai phir?

Kisi ne Musalmano ke contribution ko nakara? Nahi.

Maine sirf ye kaha ki 1947 mein baat Hindu mulk banne ki this. Isi baat pe bantwara hua tha. Par hinduon ne secular mulk banaya. Kyun?

Kyunki koi bhi nahi chahta ki kisi musalman ko kabhi ye naa laage ki ye mulk uska nahi.

Ye mulk sabka hai.

I hope you see that when majority elect those who openly say derogatory comments, openly talk about marginalizing minorities, elect a PM who has a history of being bigot then it shows that you are just saying things and are not in tune with reality or saying this just because you have to.

You probably do not see it, maybe because you have been brought in an environment or indoctrinated in such way that you miss it all the time, or maybe it is unintentional, but you do make many many comments that would be derogatory and ignorant towards minorities.

 

[JaDed]

Hinduon ko kaise nikala gaya tha pakistan se,sabko pata hai. Aaj bhi waha se har saal hazaroan aate hai India.

Kya Musalmano ko India mein kabhi aise hua hai?

Aur Rahat Indori ka sher kehne se kuch nahi badalega.

1947 mein faaisle hua tha, Ek mulq musalmano ka ek Hinduon ka. Musalmano ka mulq bana, Hinduon ne apna mulq Secular banaya.

Its not a comparison and the decision was not that India will be for Hindus but for anyone that chooses to live here.

India is for everyone that are its citizens, this has nothing to do with Pakistan, I see the trend saying there is no Hindu country in the world, it absolutely doesn’t matter, It has to be India and its citizens irrespective of religion.

This ruling is disappointing and i can see bunch of comments that will be made by BjP thugs provoking and boasting, they can let this go build the temple now and be happy but still they will boast and mock.

 

[JaDed]

Imo Muslims should take the land and build a Museum of what happened in 1992 as a remembrance of what Hindu Fanatics look alike

 

[andy0204]

Maine gaali di? Nahi na? Kyu de raha hai phir?

Kisi ne Musalmano ke contribution ko nakara? Nahi.

Maine sirf ye kaha ki 1947 mein baat Hindu mulk banne ki this. Isi baat pe bantwara hua tha. Par hinduon ne secular mulk banaya. Kyun?

Kyunki koi bhi nahi chahta ki kisi musalman ko kabhi ye naa laage ki ye mulk uska nahi.

Ye mulk sabka hai.

Hinduon ne nahi banaya congress ne banaya.

 

[andy0204]

Imo Muslims should take the land and build a Museum of what happened in 1992 as a remembrance of what Hindu Fanatics look alike

Why would we take the land?
We will fight again for justice.

 

[andy0204]

Hinduon ne nahi banaya congress ne banaya.

*congress ne banaya secular mulk

 

[JaDed]

Hinduon ne nahi banaya congress ne banaya.

Most Hindu politicians during those days were secular , check what Javed Akhtar said on having a movie joke being done in Hindu Temple or a Mosque, he said it was easier to do it in a temple because there was no backlash but even in those days it was impossible to do it in a mosque.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...undamentalists-javed-akhtar-305723-2016-01-27

 

[Mesozoic]

Kabhi history padi hai tune sadak chaap whatsapp unvisety ke student
First education minister is muslim
Missile man is a muslim apj kalaam
Oscar award winner is a muslim ar.rehmaan
Tu khali typing ke siwa ye kuch kiya hai desh ke liye

What a gem of a post!

State of the art level.

 

[JaDed]

Why would we take the land?
We will fight again for justice.

SC orders.. whom are you going to fight against now?

 

[Hitman]

Why would we take the land?
We will fight again for justice.

Where will you appeal against the Supreme Court's judgement?

 

[andy0204]

SC orders.. whom are you going to fight against now?

We will file a review petition.

 

[andy0204]

Most Hindu politicians during those days were secular , check what Javed Akhtar said on having a movie joke being done in Hindu Temple or a Mosque, he said it was easier to do it in a temple because there was no backlash but even in those days it was impossible to do it in a mosque.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...undamentalists-javed-akhtar-305723-2016-01-27

Joke toh already banta hai terrorist batakar.

 

[JaDed]

We will file a review petition.

One can make a bigger impact by accepting and remembering it, see how Sikhs did it, if you ever go to Golden Temple the bullet marks are still there, utilize this opportunity to create sympathy and political injustice so future generations will know about it, once again Indian Muslims are at the Shah Bano moment.

 

[JaDed]

Joke toh already banta hai terrorist batakar.

Have you seen Dev? Firaaq, Rang De Basanti, Pk, OmG etc? Don’t be selective

 

[CricketCartoons]

*congress ne banaya secular mulk

It was the congress under rajiv gandhi who first ordered to unlock the gates and gave access to hindus, and it was the same congress who did the shilanyas ceremony which laid the first stone for the construction of the temple. very very secular.

 

[andy0204]

It was the congress under rajiv gandhi who first ordered to unlock the gates and gave access to hindus, and it was the same congress who did the shilanyas ceremony which laid the first stone for the construction of the temple. very very secular.

We all know that he was mastermind of this.

 

[andy0204]

One can make a bigger impact by accepting and remembering it, see how Sikhs did it, if you ever go to Golden Temple the bullet marks are still there, utilize this opportunity to create sympathy and political injustice so future generations will know about it, once again Indian Muslims are at the Shah Bano moment.

Chudiya pahen ke baithe kya,
Tomorrow they will claim more mosques were built in place of temples.

 

[JaDed]

Chudiya pahen ke baithe kya,
Tomorrow they will claim more mosques were built in place of temples.

Okayy then..

 

[KingKhanWC]

They dont speak up for Kashmiris so I say let them live with it.

When the Hindutva extremists continue to abuse them, one day they might wake up.

 

[Tiger96]

They dont speak up for Kashmiris so I say let them live with it.

When the Hindutva extremists continue to abuse them, one day they might wake up.

They Support Indian Army over Kashmiris. They even join Indian Army to bash Pakistani and Kashmiri terrorists.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They Support Indian Army over Kashmiris. They even join Indian Army to bash Pakistani and Kashmiri terrorists.

Why do you think this is the case ? Is it fear, cowardism or they just dont care?

 

[ReverseHit]

Good on the Muslim side to call for the community to move on. If you really look at it - the emotional investment is lopsided here. It's probably just any random mosque to them, to us Ayodhya is the birthplace of Bhagwan Ram.

Co-existing involves give and take, and it comes from understanding that when the relative value of something is much higher to the other party, it's better to give it up for them for the sake of the broader relationship.

 

[Enlighten]

Why do you think this is the case ? Is it fear, cowardism or they just dont care?

What did the British muslims do when the British government was supporting killing of muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did they do anything or just do nothing like cowards?

 

[Kroll]

What did the British muslims do when the British government was supporting killing of muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did they do anything or just do nothing like cowards?

That's quite a sweeping statement. In what sense was the British govt. supporting killing Muslims in Afghanistan?

 

[KingKhanWC]

What did the British muslims do when the British government was supporting killing of muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did they do anything or just do nothing like cowards?

Many protested and still are.

Daft comparison really. Indian Muslims are citizens of India, not being occupied by foriegn forces.

In the UK the British government wouldnt allow a mosque which has been attacked by extremists, reward those same extremists. Only happens in shining India.

 

[Enlighten]

That's quite a sweeping statement. In what sense was the British govt. supporting killing Muslims in Afghanistan?

Are you saying British troops weren’t stationed in Afghanistan?

 

[PakLFC]

They should accept it, shut up and move on. Pakistanis should stay out of this whole thing as it has nothing to do with us. We must respect and accept our Hindu's have nothing to do with this verdict.

 

[Kroll]

Are you saying British troops weren’t stationed in Afghanistan?

At this point, I'm not saying anything as I was the one asking the question. You made the statement, so I was asking about that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hinduon ne nahi banaya congress ne banaya.

India was 92% hindu in 1947.Without the majority agreement, no one could have made India a secular country. Dont be in any kind of delusions.

Why do you think this is the case ? Is it fear, cowardism or they just dont care?

Why should they care for those wanting to break their country?

We will file a review petition.

Ofcourse you can.

 

[Hornbill]

To truly achieve justice in Ayodhya, the people behind Babri demolition must be brought to book

Within hours of the Ayodhya verdict being delivered on Saturday, an array of figures associated with Hindutva organisations tumbled over themselves to urge Indians to maintain peace and harmony. They also enjoined their fellow citizens to respect the Supreme Court’s decision to allow Hindus to build a Ram temple on the site on which the Babri Masjid had stood until it was demolished by a mob in 1992.

The leaders of the mob claimed that the mosque had been built over the very spot on which the Hindu god Ram had been born and had decided that Indian law should not impede their curious war on history.

Twenty seven years later, the law itself would validate their contention.

“It is a historic and landmark judgement of the apex court which everyone should respect,” said Defence Minister Rajnath Singh of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, whose leaders had spent several years whipping up the blood-soaked campaign that resulted in the destruction of the 16th-century mosque.

Praveen Togadia, who had been among the key leaders of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, one of the organisations that mobilised the mob that destroyed the Babri Masjid, appealed “to all to maintain democratic peace while expressing joy”.

Said spiritual leader Ravi Shankar, “We should move towards progress, maintain communal harmony and set an example for the world.”

It was a patronising display of majoritarian privilege.

‘No winners or losers’

Astonishingly, some Hindutva leaders attempted to claim that the judgment had produced no winners or losers – that Hindus and Muslims had both somehow paid a price in the dispute about who had right to the land on which the Babri Masjid had stood since 1527.

“This case was going on for decades and it has reached the right conclusion,” said Mohan Bhagwat, chief of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, which was banned briefly for its role in the demolition of the mosque. “This should not be seen as a win or loss for anyone.”

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a key RSS organiser in the Ram temple campaign, echoed his leader’s line. “This verdict must not be seen as either victory or loss,” he said. “It does not matter if you are a Ram ***** or Rahim *****, it’s time to strengthen Bharat bhakti.”

Sushil Modi, the BJP leader from Bihar, declared that the Supreme Court’s judgment was “the most balanced decision because it has respected the feelings of both Hindus and Muslims”.

Finding justice

Nothing could be further from the truth. The victor is this decision is evident. Since the events of December 6, 1992, it has been clear that there could be only morally justifiable resolution to the Ayodhya dispute: that the Babri Masjid be reconstructed on the site.

On Saturday, even as the five judges of the Supreme Court handed over the plot to a trust to construct a temple, they acknowledged that the destruction of the Babri Masjid was an illegal act. “The destruction of the mosque took place in breach of the order of status quo and an assurance given to this Court,” the judges said. “The destruction of the mosque and the obliteration of the Islamic structure was an egregious violation of the rule of law.”

However, the case against the people involved in the demolition of the mosque, which includes senior BJP leaders, has lingered for nearly three decades. On Saturday, the Supreme Court closed off the possibility of the Babri Masjid being reconstructed in situ. If the nation is to demonstrate its commitment to achieving some measure of justice in this shameful episode, the courts must demonstrate the same eagerness in the demolition case as they did in the Ayodhya land case.

As the Supreme Court did for months in the Ayodhya matter, the special Central Bureau of Investigation court in Lucknow that is considering the demolition case should hold daily hearings to ensure the prosecution of the men and women responsible for destroying the mosque, and appeals should be dealt with swiftly. Only then can India’s collective conscience be satisfied.

https://scroll.in/article/943206/to...d-babri-demolition-must-be-brought-to-justice

Many of us here are concerned about delay in punishing those who destroyed babari masjid.Imo justice delayed is justice denied.So what happened to those who destroyed hindu temples in Pakistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/08/w...u-temples.html

PAKISTANIS ATTACK 30 HINDU TEMPLES

Muslims attacked more than 30 Hindu temples across Pakistan today, and the Government of this overwhelmingly Muslim nation closed offices and schools for a day to protest the destruction of a mosque in India.

In Lahore thousands of people accompanied a bulldozer in demolishing an abandoned Hindu temple. Crowds set fire to six other temples and stormed the office of Air-India.

"Crush India!" marchers shouted. "Death to Hinduism!" Business was brought to a standstill by a strike that closed shops and offices.

The demonstrators were protesting the razing of a 16th-century Muslim mosque on Sunday by thousands of Hindu militants in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya. Government Protests

The Foreign Ministry summoned the Indian Ambassador to express Pakistan's indignation over the attack and to demand that India immediately restore the mosque. The Government also said it would appeal to the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference to impress on India the need to protect Muslims' rights. Prime Minister P. V. Narasimha Rao of India has expressed sorrow over the destruction and pledged to rebuild the temple. But students from Quaid-i-Azam University gathered at the Indian Embassy and burnt an effigy of Mr. Rao. "The only solution for Hindus is a holy war!" the students chanted. Less Than 2% of Population

About one and a half million Hindus live in Pakistan, less than 2 percent of the population of 120 million. About 97 percent are Muslim.

In Lahore, Muslims used a bulldozer, hammers and hands to demolish the Jain Mandar temple near Punjab University. The police did not intervene. Nor did they act when a crowd stormed the Air-India office, dragged furniture into the street and set it on fire. Because of religious and border disputes, relations between India and Pakistan have been hostile since the two nations were created in 1947 by the partitioning of Britain's former colony on the subcontinent. Tensions have deteriorated since the recent killings of two Pakistanis and the beating of a Pakistani diplomat by the Indian police. Attacks Across the South

Today protesters attacked five temples in Karachi and hurled rocks and set fire to 25 temples in towns across the southern province of Sind, where 95 percent of the Hindus in Pakistan live. In Sukkur, a town in Sind, the police fired tear gas to disperse a crowd that attacked shops owned by Hindus.

The police used tear gas to break up a crowd of 200 who hurled stones at a Hindu temple and broke down the doors of Hindu houses in the western city of Quetta. Several people were arrested and hurt, and a large police contingent was posted in the district to protect Hindus.

 

[Abdullah719]

Many of us here are concerned about delay in punishing those who destroyed babari masjid.Imo justice delayed is justice denied.So what happened to those who destroyed hindu temples in Pakistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/08/w...u-temples.html

PAKISTANIS ATTACK 30 HINDU TEMPLES

Muslims attacked more than 30 Hindu temples across Pakistan today, and the Government of this overwhelmingly Muslim nation closed offices and schools for a day to protest the destruction of a mosque in India.

In Lahore thousands of people accompanied a bulldozer in demolishing an abandoned Hindu temple. Crowds set fire to six other temples and stormed the office of Air-India.

"Crush India!" marchers shouted. "Death to Hinduism!" Business was brought to a standstill by a strike that closed shops and offices.

The demonstrators were protesting the razing of a 16th-century Muslim mosque on Sunday by thousands of Hindu militants in the northern Indian town of Ayodhya. Government Protests

The Foreign Ministry summoned the Indian Ambassador to express Pakistan's indignation over the attack and to demand that India immediately restore the mosque. The Government also said it would appeal to the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference to impress on India the need to protect Muslims' rights. Prime Minister P. V. Narasimha Rao of India has expressed sorrow over the destruction and pledged to rebuild the temple. But students from Quaid-i-Azam University gathered at the Indian Embassy and burnt an effigy of Mr. Rao. "The only solution for Hindus is a holy war!" the students chanted. Less Than 2% of Population

About one and a half million Hindus live in Pakistan, less than 2 percent of the population of 120 million. About 97 percent are Muslim.

In Lahore, Muslims used a bulldozer, hammers and hands to demolish the Jain Mandar temple near Punjab University. The police did not intervene. Nor did they act when a crowd stormed the Air-India office, dragged furniture into the street and set it on fire. Because of religious and border disputes, relations between India and Pakistan have been hostile since the two nations were created in 1947 by the partitioning of Britain's former colony on the subcontinent. Tensions have deteriorated since the recent killings of two Pakistanis and the beating of a Pakistani diplomat by the Indian police. Attacks Across the South

Today protesters attacked five temples in Karachi and hurled rocks and set fire to 25 temples in towns across the southern province of Sind, where 95 percent of the Hindus in Pakistan live. In Sukkur, a town in Sind, the police fired tear gas to disperse a crowd that attacked shops owned by Hindus.

The police used tear gas to break up a crowd of 200 who hurled stones at a Hindu temple and broke down the doors of Hindu houses in the western city of Quetta. Several people were arrested and hurt, and a large police contingent was posted in the district to protect Hindus.

Don't know about the temples in this article in particular.

But there is this: https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/pakistan-restore-hindu-temples-1498397-2019-04-10

 

[Hornbill]

Don't know about the temples in this article in particular.

But there is this: https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/pakistan-restore-hindu-temples-1498397-2019-04-10

What happened to those people who destroyed temples did authorities took any action against them

 

[MenInG]

NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court will be requested to review its landmark verdict in the Ayodhya temple-mosque dispute case, the Muslim Personal Law Board said today, announcing that a review petition will be filed within a month. "We cannot accept any land in lieu of the masjid," the Law Board said today, referring to the top court's decision to hand the disputed 2.77 acres for a temple and its order to grant 5 acres of land for a mosque at a prominent location in Ayodhya.

Spoiler

The land has been granted to the Sunni Wakf Board, which has said it is not going to challenge the court's decision. The Wakf Board said it doesn't want to "open a closed chapter" as such a move will lead to tensions.

But the Law Board, which was not a party in the case and helped the litigants financially and legally, said "Other Muslim litigants want review petition".

Jamiat Ulema-i Hind, a prominent petitioner in case, has already said it is in favour of a review petition. Three litigants, including the Jamiat, have already been identified, who would file the review petition, the law board said.

The Wakf Board, however, is yet to take a call on accepting any land for a mosque. The Muslim Personal Law Board said under the Shariat laws, a mosque cannot be exchanged for money or land.

After the verdict on November 9, Zafaryab Jilani, a member of the Law Board and the lawyer for the Sunni Wakf Board, had said they were not satisfied with the verdict. "We think it is unjust... We can't consider this justice," Mr Jilani said.


But in an interview, Zafar Farooqui, the chairperson of the Sunni Waqf Board, had told NDTV that it had been "our clear stand from day one that we would abide by the Supreme Court's verdict - whatever it may be".

"Second, this issue has created a deep divide in our society over the years. Going for a review could have meant vitiating the atmosphere again," Mr Farooqui had told NDTV.

Under the rules, any three litigants in a case can ask the Supreme Court for a review of a verdict.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mus...in-supreme-court-2133916?pfrom=home-topscroll

 

[Kroll]

NEW DELHI: The Supreme Court will be requested to review its landmark verdict in the Ayodhya temple-mosque dispute case, the Muslim Personal Law Board said today, announcing that a review petition will be filed within a month. "We cannot accept any land in lieu of the masjid," the Law Board said today, referring to the top court's decision to hand the disputed 2.77 acres for a temple and its order to grant 5 acres of land for a mosque at a prominent location in Ayodhya.

Good, nothing will change but don't surrender meekly.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Good on the Muslim side to call for the community to move on. If you really look at it - the emotional investment is lopsided here. It's probably just any random mosque to them, to us Ayodhya is the birthplace of Bhagwan Ram.

Co-existing involves give and take, and it comes from understanding that when the relative value of something is much higher to the other party, it's better to give it up for them for the sake of the broader relationship.

I think it’s more to do with the emotional attachment like the Gujarat riots and the derailment of trains and mob killings than the land itself
Most Indian Muslims don’t identify themselves with the Mughals especially the sayyids

 

[BreadPakoda]

Really a sad day for being a indian muslim
I expect this but i have little hope on supreme court but that hope is also dead today
nobody going to save us from this hindutva goons in feature ya allah please help our future generations every hindu has a little grudge on muslim because we(muslims)ruled india in the past

I guess its payback time now. Your ancestors ruled over Hindus. Now the Hindus are ruling over you.

All I will say is - hard luck for taking birth in the wrong generation, mate.

 

[Captain caveman]

I guess its payback time now. Your ancestors ruled over Hindus. Now the Hindus are ruling over you.

All I will say is - hard luck for taking birth in the wrong generation, mate.

A son should not have to pay for the sins of his father - a famous saying in the west, you should adopt it in the east as well.

 

[BreadPakoda]

A son should not have to pay for the sins of his father - a famous saying in the west, you should adopt it in the east as well.

For that the son should not take pride in his father's sins. Also, I live in the west.

 

[Akki malhotra]

I guess its payback time now. Your ancestors ruled over Hindus. Now the Hindus are ruling over you.

All I will say is - hard luck for taking birth in the wrong generation, mate.

Actually if that is the case. They are more unlucky. Because even at that time they were not used to rule hindus. Those were invaders.
At present, dnt think hindus ruling anyone. There are lakhs of masjids alll over India. There have been infinite number of times temples destroyed on this soil than the masjids through out the history

 

[GBK_Fan]

Well the goons from Kerala have already issued terrorist threats against the SC judges. I won’t be surprised if their Tamil brethren follow

https://wap.business-standard.com/a...-pfi-post-ayodhya-verdict-119111700561_1.html

 

[Captain caveman]

For that the son should not take pride in his father's sins. Also, I live in the west.

Take pride or not makes no difference, its not his sins.
Were you born and bred in the west or did you emigrate?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Really a sad day for being a indian muslim
I expect this but i have little hope on supreme court but that hope is also dead today
nobody going to save us from this hindutva goons in feature ya allah please help our future generations every hindu has a little grudge on muslim because we(muslims)ruled india in the past

Lol.

Can you name a few indigenous. Muslim rulers? People whose roots are from the subcontinent?

You ruled no one.

Some muslim families who came from Afghanistan and central Asia ruled the subcontinent.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well the goons from Kerala have already issued terrorist threats against the SC judges. I won’t be surprised if their Tamil brethren follow

https://wap.business-standard.com/a...-pfi-post-ayodhya-verdict-119111700561_1.html

The PFI and the SDPI needs to be banned.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

The PFI and the SDPI needs to be banned.

The Ministry of Home Affairs has directed the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and local police to provide security to Justice Nazeer and his family after agencies warned about a threat to their lives from the PFI and 'other quarters.'

That’s all I can find in the posted article. Any more details available?
Are you also going to ask for a ban for the BJP and RSS every time their officials threaten minority's?

 

[cricketjoshila]

That’s all I can find in the posted article. Any more details available?
Are you also going to ask for a ban for the BJP and RSS every time their officials threaten minority's?

Threatening judges of supreme court for delivering a judgement is not a run of a mill threat.

Stupid statements are made by politicians all the time in India. Owaisi has made a few since the judgement, but even he doesn't dare threaten a SC judge.

And if you Google PFI, there are enough incidents to ban them.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Threatening judges of supreme court for delivering a judgement is not a run of a mill threat.

Stupid statements are made by politicians all the time in India. Owaisi has made a few since the judgement, but even he doesn't dare threaten a SC judge.

And if you Google PFI, there are enough incidents to ban them.

That’s all well and good but I asked you to provide some more details to back up the claim made in the article - is there any more available?

If I google RSS and BJP politicians I will find more than enough incidents of hate speech and threats to minority’s, are those people not worth the same protection?

 

[cricketjoshila]

That’s all well and good but I asked you to provide some more details to back up the claim made in the article - is there any more available?

If I google RSS and BJP politicians I will find more than enough incidents of hate speech and threats to minority’s, are those people not worth the same protection?

As i said stupid statements by politicians is not a big deal, it comes from both sides with little actually happening.

PFI have chopped people's hands for alleged insults of islam.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

As i said stupid statements by politicians is not a big deal, it comes from both sides with little actually happening.

PFI have chopped people's hands for alleged insults of islam.

I gave you a couple of chances to provide some details about what the PFI have allegedly said and you failed to respond with anything. Not surprised because it’s a case of another day in shining India and yet another lie that your governments media is peddling:

https://thecognate.com/pfi-demands-...g-alleged-threat-to-justice-nazeer-from-them/

As usual I expect you to run away again.

 

[uberkoen]

As i said stupid statements by politicians is not a big deal, it comes from both sides with little actually happening.

PFI have chopped people's hands for alleged insults of islam.

That was an isolated incident. It's not like they go around chopping peoples hands off. Don't exaggerate please

 

[Hitman]

That was an isolated incident. It's not like they go around chopping peoples hands off. Don't exaggerate please

Babri Masjid demolition was an isolated incident as well. Does it get a free pass?

 

[uberkoen]

Babri Masjid demolition was an isolated incident as well. Does it get a free pass?

Not saying it gets a free pass. The way the point was put made it seem that they go around chopping hands left right and center.

 

[Hitman]

Not saying it gets a free pass. The way the point was put made it seem that they go around chopping hands left right and center.

An isolated incident where people's hands were chopped off is more than enough.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Babri Masjid demolition was an isolated incident as well. Does it get a free pass?

It does eventually. Might have took a few decades for the courts to rubber stamp it, but got there in the end.