How should Muslims in India react to the Ayodhya verdict?

[Kroll]

The ludicrous and unjust decision of the SC should be overturned. The Babri Masjid should be reconstructed on the exact same site on which it was demolished with the cost coming out of the Federal or State purse.

The temple can be built at the donated site. In addition, all perpetrators of this heinous act should be punished as quick as possible. This is the only fair and just outcome.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The ludicrous and unjust decision of the SC should be overturned. The Babri Masjid should be reconstructed on the exact same site on which it was demolished with the cost coming out of the Federal or State purse.

The temple can be built at the donated site. In addition, all perpetrators of this heinous act should be punished as quick as possible. This is the only fair and just outcome.

Its fair and just because you like it? Right?


Only a Ram Mandir will be built at the site of Lord Rams birth, just like only a masjid can exist at Mecca.

The only thing thatd agreeable is that does who demolished the masjid be punished.

 

[JaDed]

Above posts are a reason why religion is the worst thing to happen.

No wonder China has improved so much , they don’t deal with this nonsense.

Sc will suffer coz religion for another 100 years don’t see anyone letting go of religion.

 

[PakLFC]

Indian Muslims have no choice other then to shut up and accept Hindutva rules in their country. Now Adityanath is gonna change the city of Agra's name to Agravan very soon then they will demolish the Taj Mahal building a temple there. Protesting on the streets will do know good at all, they'll be accused or "terrorism". This although being India's internal matter does not concern Pak, every right thinking Indian should be very concerned about all this Hindunization going on.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian Muslims have no choice other then to shut up and accept Hindutva rules in their country. Now Adityanath is gonna change the city of Agra's name to Agravan very soon then they will demolish the Taj Mahal building a temple there. Protesting on the streets will do know good at all, they'll be accused or "terrorism". This although being India's internal matter does not concern Pak, every right thinking Indian should be very concerned about all this Hindunization going on.

India is 80% hindu, so whats this hindunization?

 

[PakLFC]

India is 80% hindu, so whats this hindunization?

The opposite of secularism that you keep raving about.

 

[Akki malhotra]

The opposite of secularism that you keep raving about.

So even it is happening if you say so. Is it bad thing? All countries should become secular Or majority religion should decide and it's normal.

 

[PakLFC]

So even it is happening if you say so. Is it bad thing? All countries should become secular Or majority religion should decide and it's normal.

So if India is not secular then why do you people keep saying it is? Hinduism is a religious belief where as Hindutva is a fascist and racist ideology. You obviously don't know the difference, do you? I can see now Hindu knives are coming out for their minorities, your fascist faces have been exposed.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So if India is not secular then why do you people keep saying it is? Hinduism is a religious belief where as Hindutva is a fascist and racist ideology. You obviously don't know the difference, do you? I can see now Hindu knives are coming out for their minorities, your fascist faces have been exposed.

Give minority rights to Pakistani minorities. Indians are doing far better.

And your faces were exposed in your laws.

Its laughable that pakistanis even talk about secularism and minority rights.

 

[Akki malhotra]

So if India is not secular then why do you people keep saying it is? Hinduism is a religious belief where as Hindutva is a fascist and racist ideology. You obviously don't know the difference, do you? I can see now Hindu knives are coming out for their minorities, your fascist faces have been exposed.

What is difference between hindutva and islamic national? Give examples and figures to support your claim. See we will only talk logics. Nothing else would be entertained.

 

[Captain caveman]

Give minority rights to Pakistani minorities. Indians are doing far better.

And your faces were exposed in your laws.

Its laughable that pakistanis even talk about secularism and minority rights.

750 million indians living in abject povety i.e. less than 2 dollars per day according to un stats.
Thats 3 times the population of Pakistan!
Go away with your indian super rich rubbish, indias a third world country and will stay a third world country for centuries!

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Give minority rights to Pakistani minorities. Indians are doing far better.

And your faces were exposed in your laws.

Its laughable that pakistanis even talk about secularism and minority rights.

You made it back I see to peddle more lies.
Any response to our earlier discussion which you conveniently side stepped:

I gave you a couple of chances to provide some details about what the PFI have allegedly said and you failed to respond with anything. Not surprised because it’s a case of another day in shining India and yet another lie that your governments media is peddling:

https://thecognate.com/pfi-demands-u...eer-from-them/

As usual I expect you to run away again.

It amuses me that you of all people can talk about minority rights when you spread lies 24/7 to propagate hate against Muslims.

 

[Mesozoic]

750 million indians living in abject povety i.e. less than 2 dollars per day according to un stats.
Thats 3 times the population of Pakistan!
Go away with your indian super rich rubbish, indias a third world country and will stay a third world country for centuries!

You have serious comprehension issues my friend. He was talking about minority rights and you came up blabbering about poverty figures. Shows how desparate you are.

Anyways 750 million ?

In 2018, there were 80 million Indians living in "abject poverty" according to world poverty clock. Your overblown fake numbers make you seem even more desperate.

 

[Captain caveman]

You have serious comprehension issues my friend. He was talking about minority rights and you came up blabbering about poverty figures. Shows how desparate you are.

Anyways 750 million ?

In 2018, there were 80 million Indians living in "abject poverty" according to world poverty clock. Your overblown fake numbers make you seem even more desperate.

Hes always talks about india being rich and pakistan poor, read his comment again, you are the one who has a comprehension issue.
Na i have seen figures of 750 million.
Lets for argument sake, accept your figure of 80million, thats nearly half the population of pakistan(about 40%), this geezer still has the nerve to boast about india being richer than pakistan, when 80 million people live in abject poverty, thats greater than tha whole of the uk population + another 12 million people!

 

[Kroll]

Back on topic, we all know this SC outcome is a complete and utter sham. Supreme Court - really? )

These so called judges are as biased as they come and made a faith based decision.

 

[Mesozoic]

Hes always talks about india being rich and pakistan poor, read his comment again, you are the one who has a comprehension issue.
Na i have seen figures of 750 million.
Lets for argument sake, accept your figure of 80million, thats nearly half the population of pakistan(about 40%), this geezer still has the nerve to boast about india being richer than pakistan, when 80 million people live in abject poverty, thats greater than tha whole of the uk population + another 12 million people!

What argument sake ? Lol. You have no clue. Don't you ?

First of all , learn the difference between relative and abject (absolute) poverty before embarassing yourselves like this.

And yes, India is richer than Pakistan. Not something to brag about but still a fact. We're a country with 1.3 billion , so obviously we'll have higher numbers in everything. For example, we have more billionaires than UK, Germany etc. Now , would you say India's richer than Germany and UK according to your logic ?

 

[Captain caveman]

You have serious comprehension issues my friend. He was talking about minority rights and you came up blabbering about poverty figures. Shows how desparate you are.

Anyways 750 million ?

In 2018, there were 80 million Indians living in "abject poverty" according to world poverty clock. Your overblown fake numbers make you seem even more desperate.

In India, 21.9% of the population lives below the national poverty line in 2011. In India, the proportion of employed population below $1.90 purchasing power parity a day in 2011 is 21.2%.
https://www.adb.org › countries › p...
Poverty in India | Asian Development Bank

So of a population of1.3billion, that equates to approx. 260 million people, more than the ENTIRE population of pakistan of 220 million.
Yes these figures are 8 years old, but i doubt india has taken 180 million people out of abject poverty in the last 8 years, epecially as it economy has staggered over the last few years.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What is difference between hindutva and islamic national? Give examples and figures to support your claim. See we will only talk logics. Nothing else would be entertained.

Islamic countries don't claim to be secular, that is one quite massive difference.

 

[Kroll]

Islamic countries don't claim to be secular, that is one quite massive difference.

Also Islamic countries don't have 200+ million non Muslims residing in them. Hindutva on the other hand is a very dangerous brand with its only purpose to marginalise and attack Muslims and their heritage.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Also Islamic countries don't have 200+ million non Muslims residing in them. Hindutva on the other hand is a very dangerous brand with its only purpose to marginalise and attack Muslims and their heritage.

Why islamic countries dnt have that much non Muslims??? Plus how come India has so much muslims when muslims got their land in 1947 ???
Why hindus and other minorities apply for citizenship of india ?
Why muslims of india never apply citizenship of Pakistan?
Why large amount of temples destroyed in Pakistan and why other than one or two mosques in India only destroyed whereas most of these mosques were build by invaders. ??

Why muslims got all the rights in India whereas in Pakistan even shias muslims forget non Muslims dnt get rights?

You can't escape from reality. Why India can't be hindu stan when Pakistan can be islamic????? Pls do elaborate like an educated one and not madrasa one.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Islamic countries don't claim to be secular, that is one quite massive difference.

It's all about claim so. ? If India claims to be only hindu stan then everything ok? It should be I guess. You guys has been waiting for civil war in India since ages but sadly it's not happening. Can feel for you guys.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Why islamic countries dnt have that much non Muslims??? Plus how come India has so much muslims when muslims got their land in 1947 ???
Why hindus and other minorities apply for citizenship of india ?
Why muslims of india never apply citizenship of Pakistan?
Why large amount of temples destroyed in Pakistan and why other than one or two mosques in India only destroyed whereas most of these mosques were build by invaders. ??

Why muslims got all the rights in India whereas in Pakistan even shias muslims forget non Muslims dnt get rights?

You can't escape from reality. Why India can't be hindu stan when Pakistan can be islamic????? Pls do elaborate like an educated one and not madrasa one.

Define Islamic countries

 

[Akki malhotra]

Define Islamic countries

Pakistan? Isn't it islamic? There are many like them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's all about claim so. ? If India claims to be only hindu stan then everything ok? It should be I guess. You guys has been waiting for civil war in India since ages but sadly it's not happening. Can feel for you guys.

Yes basically, if India wants to declare itself Hindu state, then we can say both countries are coming from same direction. But don't call yourself secular when reality is different. Be proud and clear like Islamic republic of Pakistan, then there can be no hypocrisy.

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Pakistan? Isn't it islamic? There are many like them.

Such as?

 

[Akki malhotra]

Such as?

Search islamic countries name on google. You would get all the names.

 

[andy0204]

Search islamic countries name on google. You would get all the names.

Why don't you name it instead of telling Google it?

 

[Iqbal'sh]

Search islamic countries name on google. You would get all the names.

You made a long post starting with an accusation that Islamic countries don’t have that much non Muslims.
I’m asking which Islamic countries you referred to.
Since you asked me to google them, how about you do the same and google how many non Muslims there are in Indonesia or Malaysia to start with.

 

[Captain caveman]

[MENTION=147708]Akki malhotra[/MENTION]

1.1 or 2 mosques destroyref in india - dont talk rubbish,many mosques have been destroyed in india.

2. Muslims have all the rights in india- rubbish, muslims get lynched for eating beef or marrying hindu girls.

3. Why muslims in india when pakistan was made for muslims - 220 million muslims in pakistan, about same in india, so approx 440 million muslims in total in india and pakistan.
The total hindus in india and pakistan is approx 900million.
Hence 2 times as many hindus then muslims in the combined lands of india and pakistan, approx.
So why is india 4 TIMES as large as pakistan?
should only be twice the size, give us the extra land and we will take all the muslims from your country!!

4.muslims of india dont apply for pakistan citizenship - look at point 3, not enough land. And some indian muslims like to be hindu ghulams.

5. We treat our minorities better than you do!
India - muslims lynching for eating beef or marrying hindu girls, not to mention destroying babri masjids and other muslim holy sites and gang raping muslim kashmiri women and girls.

 

[kk1992]

[MENTION=147708]Akki malhotra[/MENTION]

1.1 or 2 mosques destroyref in india - dont talk rubbish,many mosques have been destroyed in india.

2. Muslims have all the rights in india- rubbish, muslims get lynched for eating beef or marrying hindu girls.

3. Why muslims in india when pakistan was made for muslims - 220 million muslims in pakistan, about same in india, so approx 440 million muslims in total in india and pakistan.
The total hindus in india and pakistan is approx 900million.
Hence 2 times as many hindus then muslims in the combined lands of india and pakistan, approx.
So why is india 4 TIMES as large as pakistan?
should only be twice the size, give us the extra land and we will take all the muslims from your country!!

4.muslims of india dont apply for pakistan citizenship - look at point 3, not enough land. And some indian muslims like to be hindu ghulams.

5. We treat our minorities better than you do!
India - muslims lynching for eating beef or marrying hindu girls, not to mention destroying babri masjids and other muslim holy sites and gang raping muslim kashmiri women and girls.

It isn't that difficult to put down RSS/BJP parrot who only regurgitate what they have been taught all their life.

Rather it is a waste of time.

RSS/BJP know what they have done and are doing is absolutely wrong and unjustifiable and they know they will be embarrassed on every forum, well at least the non-gullible ones know it.

 

[Akki malhotra]

It isn't that difficult to put down RSS/BJP parrot who only regurgitate what they have been taught all their life.

Rather it is a waste of time.

RSS/BJP know what they have done and are doing is absolutely wrong and unjustifiable and they know they will be embarrassed on every forum, well at least the non-gullible ones know it.

Grow up man. Have some logics and facts. There is a world outside what mullahs teach in madrasas.

 

[kk1992]

Grow up man. Have some logics and facts. There is a world outside what mullahs teach in madrasas.

Lol.

What is Madrasas teaching? care to elaborate?

Is criticizing RSS/BJP part of the madrasas teaching?

Come on, explain what you consider as Madrasas teaching and why you chose that as an excuse to escape when RSS/BJP is exposed?

 

[Akki malhotra]

Lol.

What is Madrasas teaching? care to elaborate?

Is criticizing RSS/BJP part of the madrasas teaching?

Come on, explain what you consider as Madrasas teaching and why you chose that as an excuse to escape when RSS/BJP is exposed?

Well those know what they doing is absolutely wrong & unjustifable and they know they will be embarrassed on every forum, well at least the non-gullible ones know it.

 

[kk1992]

Well those know what they doing is absolutely wrong & unjustifable and they know they will be embarrassed on every forum, well at least the non-gullible ones know it.

what?

why are you running away, again?

I am sorry you aren't making sense.

Please elaborate on what you consider as Madrassas teaching?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Well those know what they doing is absolutely wrong & unjustifable and they know they will be embarrassed on every forum, well at least the non-gullible ones know it.

lol what? Do you even think before posting?

 

[Birdman]

why should Indian Muslims are grouped together? Can't each individual have their own opinion of things that are transpiring in their country? As with any group, there are smart and there are dumb individuals and they will react in their own way they see fit.

 

[Kroll]

why should Indian Muslims are grouped together? Can't each individual have their own opinion of things that are transpiring in their country? As with any group, there are smart and there are dumb individuals and they will react in their own way they see fit.

Because Hindutva does not see them as individuals, only in the label of Muslims, hence why they get lynched for transporting cattle under the accusation they're taking beef/eating beef etc. Hence, why they have been given a raw deal in the Ayodhya case.

This was mainly a Hindu v Muslim case and all the headlines if you remember had SC court awards disputed site to Hindus.

 

[PakLFC]

What is difference between hindutva and islamic national? Give examples and figures to support your claim. See we will only talk logics. Nothing else would be entertained.

Hindutva is a fascist and racist movement. Muslim's may have their nutters but Pak is not changing the names of Lahore or Karachi to Muslim ones.

 

[cricketjoshila]

750 million indians living in abject povety i.e. less than 2 dollars per day according to un stats.
Thats 3 times the population of Pakistan!
Go away with your indian super rich rubbish, indias a third world country and will stay a third world country for centuries!

Stop lying.

You and your lies on this forum for last few years have been nauseating.

Same old same old salty lies.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Also Islamic countries don't have 200+ million non Muslims residing in them. Hindutva on the other hand is a very dangerous brand with its only purpose to marginalise and attack Muslims and their heritage.

So? If islamic countries weed out minorities who fault it is?

Why should a country with more than 80% non muslim population honour the cruelty of barbaric invaders who killed,maimed other religions?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Stick to the subject of this thread instead of trying to hijack it. Your law if we can all it that is exposed every day by your own people with a terrorist PM. Nuff said! So if you claim to be a Hindu state then don't tell me of this secularism bull s4it! India with the most number of insurgencies is no one to laugh at others.

Pakistanis on PP are no authority to declare anyone a terrorist. Keep crying.

I am least bothered about Islamic republics views on secularism. Its a joke.

 

[PakLFC]

Pakistanis on PP are no authority to declare anyone a terrorist. Keep crying.

I am least bothered about Islamic republics views on secularism. Its a joke.

It is your Congress and the likes of Owaisi who are crying from what I am seeing and your Modi was banned from entering America before he became PM. Pak couldn't care less coz it doesn't effect us in the slightest, many Pakistanis are delighted that Modi is your PM. Let us not forget Karan Thapar humiliating him. I don't believe in secularism neither does Pak claim to be that! Modi can't do nothing to Pak so nothing for us to worry about, we don't need lectures from Hindutva terrorists on what political system is the best.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Hindutva is a fascist and racist movement. Muslim's may have their nutters but Pak is not changing the names of Lahore or Karachi to Muslim ones.

Pakistan has changed their whole country name in 47 into islamic and you have gutts to call the other way. Do you guys think about logics or religion helps to overcome logics.

India has thousands plus cities and even if 10 cities change their names which has not happened then still it won't be 1 percent.

 

[Akki malhotra]

what?

why are you running away, again?

I am sorry you aren't making sense.

Please elaborate on what you consider as Madrassas teaching?

I asked you some questions but didn't reply even one so it's not my responsibility to answer your every question whereas when its your turn you run away as usual . First you answer, I will not run away and answer every damn thing.

 

[Akki malhotra]

lol what? Do you even think before posting?

Na we have you only to do that job.

 

[kk1992]

I asked you some questions but didn't reply even one so it's not my responsibility to answer your every question whereas when its your turn you run away as usual . First you answer, I will not run away and answer every damn thing.

What have you asked ?

I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.

I don’t think you’ve ever asked me a question other than justifying RSS/BJP criticism by assuming every Muslim goes to Madrassa.

 

[Akki malhotra]

[MENTION=147708]Akki malhotra[/MENTION]

1.1 or 2 mosques destroyref in india - dont talk rubbish,many mosques have been destroyed in india.

2. Muslims have all the rights in india- rubbish, muslims get lynched for eating beef or marrying hindu girls.

3. Why muslims in india when pakistan was made for muslims - 220 million muslims in pakistan, about same in india, so approx 440 million muslims in total in india and pakistan.
The total hindus in india and pakistan is approx 900million.
Hence 2 times as many hindus then muslims in the combined lands of india and pakistan, approx.
So why is india 4 TIMES as large as pakistan?
should only be twice the size, give us the extra land and we will take all the muslims from your country!!

4.muslims of india dont apply for pakistan citizenship - look at point 3, not enough land. And some indian muslims like to be hindu ghulams.

5. We treat our minorities better than you do!
India - muslims lynching for eating beef or marrying hindu girls, not to mention destroying babri masjids and other muslim holy sites and gang raping muslim kashmiri women and girls.

1) show figure with facts
2) show figure with facts
3) So it's all about land and that's the reason why there is only decline and no growth rate for minorities in Pakistan. Have some facts
4) so muslims in India are hindus gulam, so they dnt apply for citizenship in India. Well for your kind information even muslims of Pakistan seek citizenship of India such as atlaf hussain, tarek fateh, adnan sami, forget millions non Muslims.
And less we talk about your other half Bangladesh who have millions of Muslims entered India illegally.
India being such large country still no one applies citizenship of Pakistan. There has to be some reason.
5) you dnt even treat shia muslims better. You dnt acknowledge them muslims. Yes you treat better so they apply citizenship of India.
6) Give facts and figures about beef and other **** you mentioned.

 

[PakLFC]

Pakistan has changed their whole country name in 47 into islamic and you have gutts to call the other way. Do you guys think about logics or religion helps to overcome logics.

India has thousands plus cities and even if 10 cities change their names which has not happened then still it won't be 1 percent.

Pakistan was always Islamic as far as I know so what change are you on about when our country came in to being under Islam? Yes I believe Islam if implemented as it should will make Pak a first world country. Stop trying to defend the racism in India by telling us only the names of a few cities have been changed. Modi has only been in charge for a few years as well.

 

[uberkoen]

Pakistan was always Islamic as far as I know so what change are you on about when our country came in to being under Islam? Yes I believe Islam if implemented as it should will make Pak a first world country. Stop trying to defend the racism in India by telling us only the names of a few cities have been changed. Modi has only been in charge for a few years as well.

Incorrect. It was in 56 that Pakistan's name was changed to Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Pakistan was always Islamic as far as I know so what change are you on about when our country came in to being under Islam? Yes I believe Islam if implemented as it should will make Pak a first world country. Stop trying to defend the racism in India by telling us only the names of a few cities have been changed. Modi has only been in charge for a few years as well.

How many cities names changed? Why dnt you guys give facts and figures and stop saying bull **** altogether on every thread.
Like you guys give facts and figures about poverty in India why dnt you give figures about other things.
It's your opinion that Islam if implemented it would make Pakistan first world country but it might not be views of shias or non Muslims if they have remained in some proportion.

 

[PakLFC]

Incorrect. It was in 56 that Pakistan's name was changed to Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Never mind the name. Pakistan was formed in the name oof Islam otherwise there was no point in it coming in to existence. Should have remained with India then.

 

[PakLFC]

How many cities names changed? Why dnt you guys give facts and figures and stop saying bull **** altogether on every thread.
Like you guys give facts and figures about poverty in India why dnt you give figures about other things.
It's your opinion that Islam if implemented it would make Pakistan first world country but it might not be views of shias or non Muslims if they have remained in some proportion.

Stop talking baloney after being battered silly by me! Kolkata for one amongst others have been changed over the past few years and now you lot are accelerating the process with Adityanath's men who want to rape dead Muslim women leading the charge.

Where did I say it is for India to implement to Islam in Pak that you are calling it our problem? See we are not destroying Sikh temples or Hindu Mandirs like you are Masjids in India. Our PM is a highly qualified man not an illiterate embarrassment like your Modi. Shia's are okay after we nailed the terrorists like Yadav you were sending nice and hard!. So is India secular then why are you killing non Hindu's and destroying Masjids? If you are Hindutva lovers then just say so instead of telling us how tolerant you are. You can't be both.

 

[uberkoen]

Never mind the name. Pakistan was formed in the name oof Islam otherwise there was no point in it coming in to existence. Should have remained with India then.

Incorrect again. It was not formed in the name of Islam. It was formed as country that would give Muslims and other minorities their due rights as this was being denied to them in India (as it continues till this day). Jinnah never wanted a separate country, he wanted equal electorates which the congress opposed vehemently thus resulting in the creation of Pakistan were Muslims weren't considered as second class citizens.

 

[PakLFC]

Incorrect again. It was not formed in the name of Islam. It was formed as country that would give Muslims and other minorities their due rights as this was being denied to them in India (as it continues till this day). Jinnah never wanted a separate country, he wanted equal electorates which the congress opposed vehemently thus resulting in the creation of Pakistan were Muslims weren't considered as second class citizens.

You no nothing. Had you known what the Quaid Jinnah wanted and said in his last speech would be aware why Pak was formed. Unfortunately, after his death the country was hijacked by people with their own agenda. The British did not want India neither did Gandhi whatsoever. It was certainly a homeland for oppressed non Brahmins as well who could live safely under Islamic law. The Quaid wanted a America-Canada type relationship with India where people from both countries could trade and visit each other freely. Your comment that he did not want Pakistan is

 

[uberkoen]

You no nothing. Had you known what the Quaid Jinnah wanted and said in his last speech would be aware why Pak was formed. Unfortunately, after his death the country was hijacked by people with their own agenda. The British did not want India neither did Gandhi whatsoever. It was certainly a homeland for oppressed non Brahmins as well who could live safely under Islamic law. The Quaid wanted a America-Canada type relationship with India where people from both countries could trade and visit each other freely. Your comment that he did not want Pakistan is

I don't want to go into detail with someone who has no knowledge of history. Read Jinnah's 14 points and tell me where he requested a separate nation. In fact, go read them and tell me what he was saying and what the entire 14 point agenda was in reply to.

and then I would suggest you read this:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/south-asia/2017-10-19/gandhis-role-partition-india

This should give you the basics and help you understand history a bit.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Stop talking baloney after being battered silly by me! Kolkata for one amongst others have been changed over the past few years and now you lot are accelerating the process with Adityanath's men who want to rape dead Muslim women leading the charge.

Where did I say it is for India to implement to Islam in Pak that you are calling it our problem? See we are not destroying Sikh temples or Hindu Mandirs like you are Masjids in India. Our PM is a highly qualified man not an illiterate embarrassment like your Modi. Shia's are okay after we nailed the terrorists like Yadav you were sending nice and hard!. So is India secular then why are you killing non Hindu's and destroying Masjids? If you are Hindutva lovers then just say so instead of telling us how tolerant you are. You can't be both.

Why the hell you can't provide figure and stop talking non sense altogether???
Pakistan has destroyed 30 temples only that when babari destructed. Less we talk other times the better it would be. Thousands of non Muslims apply citizenship of India from country like Pakistan. Who are you making fool ?
World knows imran is not PM. It's always army who run your country. Dnt make mockery of yourself anymore.

 

[PakLFC]

I don't want to go into detail with someone who has no knowledge of history. Read Jinnah's 14 points and tell me where he requested a separate nation. In fact, go read them and tell me what he was saying and what the entire 14 point agenda was in reply to.

and then I would suggest you read this:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/south-asia/2017-10-19/gandhis-role-partition-india

This should give you the basics and help you understand history a bit.

Don't insult the word knowledge when you don't know what it means. Better then reading rubbish that you are telling me learn from those who were close to the Quaid and witnessed his last moments. Stop giving history a bad name with your gibberish comments. I can provide a 100 times more links then you can. Why are you so terrified of an Islamic system?

 

[uberkoen]

Don't insult the word knowledge when you don't know what it means. Better then reading rubbish that you are telling me learn from those who were close to the Quaid and witnessed his last moments. Stop giving history a bad name with your gibberish comments. I can provide a 100 times more links then you can. Why are you so terrified of an Islamic system?

What a load of B.S. none of this is true.

Everyone knows you're an Indian posting as a Pakistani so stop wasting my time with your nonsense.

 

[PakLFC]

Why the hell you can't provide figure and stop talking non sense altogether???
Pakistan has destroyed 30 temples only that when babari destructed. Less we talk other times the better it would be. Thousands of non Muslims apply citizenship of India from country like Pakistan. Who are you making fool ?
World knows imran is not PM. It's always army who run your country. Dnt make mockery of yourself anymore.

What figures do you keep talking about when the demolished Babri and names being changed like Kolkata and Allahabad now Prayagraj are staring you on your face! Bombay has become Mumbai and now others will be changed soon as well. Do you know how many illegal Indians are living in Pak and Mexico deporting your people as well? I posted a report here some months back from an Indian paper exposing how 3000 illegal Indian's are living in Pak so choke on that and now this!https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...ing-illegally-immigrate-us-1610281-2019-10-17 You only make yourself look like a complete idiot when a terrorist like Modi the butcher of Gujarat who was banned from travelling to America is now your PM. I am glad IK is backed by our army which is what makes you cry. You wanted an Indian stooge like Nawaz as Pak PM who follows your orders.

 

[PakLFC]

What a load of B.S. none of this is true.

Everyone knows you're an Indian posting as a Pakistani so stop wasting my time with your nonsense.

So when you have no answer start crying like a baby that you are! I want an Islamic system in Pak that makes me an Indian!!? Need to see a shrink ASAP! You have no answer to what an intellectual like Israr Ahmed is saying so are walking away like a coward. Indeed, you have no clue what an Islamic system even is other then what you read in the media by the enemies of Islam. Go and wipe the boots of the enemies of Islam, that's a good little boy!

 

[uberkoen]

So when you have no answer start crying like a baby that you are! I want an Islamic system in Pak that makes me an Indian!!? Need to see a shrink ASAP! You have no answer to what an intellectual like Israr Ahmed is saying so are walking away like a coward. Indeed, you have no clue what an Islamic system even is other then what you read in the media by the enemies of Islam. Go and wipe the boots of the enemies of Islam, that's a good little boy!

1. What he is saying has no historical backing nor any significance as he is a nobody.
2. It doesn't matter what you want, history is history and facts are facts
3. I don't care what an Islamic system is. I'm not talking about Islamic system, I'm talking about the history of Pakistan and the basis of its formation.
4. Everyone knows you're a troll and an Indian. This same thing is being discussed in another thread as well and its rather obvious here with your posts and hence I will not be wasting anymore time on you.

 

[PakLFC]

1. What he is saying has no historical backing nor any significance as he is a nobody.
2. It doesn't matter what you want, history is history and facts are facts
3. I don't care what an Islamic system is. I'm not talking about Islamic system, I'm talking about the history of Pakistan and the basis of its formation.
4. Everyone knows you're a troll and an Indian. This same thing is being discussed in another thread as well and its rather obvious here with your posts and hence I will not be wasting anymore time on you.

I thought you were going? The Dr is quoting a common story of what the Quaid said in his last hours. If he has no backing then neither has what you say supposedly Gospel truth, it is only hearsay as well! History is that Pak was formed under the name of Islam and will remain a FACT no matter how much you howl and beat your chest. This in your opinion makes me a troll is a compliment.

You are right that you don't have a clue what Islamic system is so shut it! Again your "everyone knows" is backed with no evidence at all other then your immature comments! Everyone also knows that people like you are not Pakistani well wishers but Indians who want Pakistanis to fall for your trap and our country lose it's identity like India has. It's not working at all when smart people like me can see right through you. If you want secularism then go elsewhere and take your system with you! It is this confusion of what Pakistan was supposed to be that confuses our people and why the corrupt have become billionaires. You won't be replying ciz I have exposed your childish rants and how despite not knowing what an Islamic system even is you are opposing it!

 

[Akki malhotra]

What figures do you keep talking about when the demolished Babri and names being changed like Kolkata and Allahabad now Prayagraj are staring you on your face! Bombay has become Mumbai and now others will be changed soon as well. Do you know how many illegal Indians are living in Pak and Mexico deporting your people as well? I posted a report here some months back from an Indian paper exposing how 3000 illegal Indian's are living in Pak so choke on that and now this!https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...ing-illegally-immigrate-us-1610281-2019-10-17 You only make yourself look like a complete idiot when a terrorist like Modi the butcher of Gujarat who was banned from travelling to America is now your PM. I am glad IK is backed by our army which is what makes you cry. You wanted an Indian stooge like Nawaz as Pak PM who follows your orders.

Bombay became mumbai because of hindutva ? Do you even think a bit while talking?
America and whole world has given biggest reception to modi what Pakistan pm ever can dream of. You have no idea. Even Muslim countries has given highest awards to modi.
Haha iwhat Mexico has to do with India and Pakistan?? Only that thing you could find in Google and that too of a billion plus country like India which should not be difficult.
Illegal is what millions of bangladeshis muslims living in India. We talking in millions , not hundreds. Tragedy is when thousands apply citizenship of India from Pakistan .We have facts and figures. We dnt talk non sense everywhere without logics.

 

[uberkoen]

Bombay became mumbai because of hindutva ? Do you even think a bit while talking?
America and whole world has given biggest reception to modi what Pakistan pm ever can dream of. You have no idea. Even Muslim countries has given highest awards to modi.
Haha iwhat Mexico has to do with India and Pakistan?? Only that thing you could find in Google and that too of a billion plus country like India which should not be difficult.
Illegal is what millions of bangladeshis muslims living in India. We talking in millions , not hundreds. Tragedy is when thousands apply citizenship of India from Pakistan .We have facts and figures. We dnt talk non sense everywhere without logics.

Why are you wasting your time on someone who is an obvious troll with absolutely no knowledge of history. Just ignore him.

 

[PakLFC]

Bombay became mumbai because of hindutva ? Do you even think a bit while talking?
America and whole world has given biggest reception to modi what Pakistan pm ever can dream of. You have no idea. Even Muslim countries has given highest awards to modi.
Haha iwhat Mexico has to do with India and Pakistan?? Only that thing you could find in Google and that too of a billion plus country like India which should not be difficult.
Illegal is what millions of bangladeshis muslims living in India. We talking in millions , not hundreds. Tragedy is when thousands apply citizenship of India from Pakistan .We have facts and figures. We dnt talk non sense everywhere without logics.

I know perfectly well what I am talking off! I don't think you know the connection between Bal Thackerey and how he ruled Mumbai or Bombay. So what if America gave Modi the red carpet ehh? He was also banned from visiting the very country until he became your PM. Muslim countries gave him a good reception coz they want access to India's market and such selfish reasons. I will also let your know that Turkey is hosting a Kashmir even and Muslim Malaysia is also not your best friend either where Zakir Naik continues living in fear of his life.

No I can find a lot more against India that sadly is nothing "haha" about it or do you want every link for such stories!? I guess it is really hurtful for you to see Indians being kicked out after you were boosting how great you are. I have given the facts many times here of Indian asylum seekers living all over the world and thousands in Pak as well not that it surprises me. See the west can deport them and does but when Indians keep coming to Pak even if deported they keep returning the next day.https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...n-for-crossing-border-illegally-report/342629 Why are you telling me about Bangladeshis when worldwide Indians make much more refugee's!

 

[PakLFC]

Why are you wasting your time on someone who is an obvious troll with absolutely no knowledge of history. Just ignore him.

Understandable to see you defend an Indian coz you are one of them! The cat is out the bag, you have been exposed! A Pakistani wannabe that you are!

 

[uberkoen]

Understandable to see you defend an Indian coz you are one of them! The cat is out the bag, you have been exposed! A Pakistani wannabe that you are!

lol ok

 

[PakLFC]

lol ok

Take that Pak flag off your profile. The star crescent represents Islam that you want none off! Never seen a a Pakistani support India like you do then again you are an Indian anyway.

 

[Hitman]

So Bombay became Mumbai and Calcutta became Kolkata because of Hindutva )

 

[Akki malhotra]

I know perfectly well what I am talking off! I don't think you know the connection between Bal Thackerey and how he ruled Mumbai or Bombay. So what if America gave Modi the red carpet ehh? He was also banned from visiting the very country until he became your PM. Muslim countries gave him a good reception coz they want access to India's market and such selfish reasons. I will also let your know that Turkey is hosting a Kashmir even and Muslim Malaysia is also not your best friend either where Zakir Naik continues living in fear of his life.

No I can find a lot more against India that sadly is nothing "haha" about it or do you want every link for such stories!? I guess it is really hurtful for you to see Indians being kicked out after you were boosting how great you are. I have given the facts many times here of Indian asylum seekers living all over the world and thousands in Pak as well not that it surprises me. See the west can deport them and does but when Indians keep coming to Pak even if deported they keep returning the next day.https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...n-for-crossing-border-illegally-report/342629 Why are you telling me about Bangladeshis when worldwide Indians make much more refugee's!

Give figures & facts. All other heaven angels stories won't be entertained in today educated world. I am sorry.

 

[Captain caveman]

Stop lying.

You and your lies on this forum for last few years have been nauseating.

Same old same old salty lies.

I only joined this forum 6 months ago!
Whose the liar now?

 

[Captain caveman]

1) show figure with facts
2) show figure with facts
3) So it's all about land and that's the reason why there is only decline and no growth rate for minorities in Pakistan. Have some facts
4) so muslims in India are hindus gulam, so they dnt apply for citizenship in India. Well for your kind information even muslims of Pakistan seek citizenship of India such as atlaf hussain, tarek fateh, adnan sami, forget millions non Muslims.
And less we talk about your other half Bangladesh who have millions of Muslims entered India illegally.
India being such large country still no one applies citizenship of Pakistan. There has to be some reason.
5) you dnt even treat shia muslims better. You dnt acknowledge them muslims. Yes you treat better so they apply citizenship of India.
6) Give facts and figures about beef and other **** you mentioned.

Facts mean nothing to people like you!
During partition muslim villages were burnt to the ground including the mosques.

Bangaladeshis are nothing to do with us.

Hindus apply for indian citizienship because they want to go back to their homeland why do so many indians try to get into the uk as illegal immigrants if india is so great?

You treat muslims and dalats as subhumans, gang raping their women , so take care of your own minorities before you speak about other countries minorities.

At the end of the day, india is a third world country, and your media has made you guys stupid, you think you are on the same level as 1st world countries, like us brits!

 

[Captain caveman]

Stop lying.

You and your lies on this forum for last few years have been nauseating.

Same old same old salty lies.

Whats even funnier is that apart from me only being on this forum for 6 months, prior to the last 2 weeks, i have only posted 1 or 2 posts on time pass and that was about boxing!
I have only been posting about india on time pass since the babri masjid verdict, less than 2 weeks ago!!!

 

[Akki malhotra]

Facts mean nothing to people like you!
During partition muslim villages were burnt to the ground including the mosques.

Bangaladeshis are nothing to do with us.

Hindus apply for indian citizienship because they want to go back to their homeland why do so many indians try to get into the uk as illegal immigrants if india is so great?

You treat muslims and dalats as subhumans, gang raping their women , so take care of your own minorities before you speak about other countries minorities.

At the end of the day, india is a third world country, and your media has made you guys stupid, you think you are on the same level as 1st world countries, like us brits!

After partition, pls provide figure. We are talking after partition figures. Else hindus were ruled by invaders for many years. So have more brutal data to support.
So better it would be to talk after partition and not during partition.
Provide facts and figures. India has more lower caste hindus than upper class. It's fact and supported with figures.
So request you to post like an educated man with facts and figures .

 

[Captain caveman]

After partition, pls provide figure. We are talking after partition figures. Else hindus were ruled by invaders for many years. So have more brutal data to support.
So better it would be to talk after partition and not during partition.
Provide facts and figures. India has more lower caste hindus than upper class. It's fact and supported with figures.
So request you to post like an educated man with facts and figures .

Some of us work!
Dont have time to waste with deusional people
Do your own research, i stand with everything i said!

 

[uberkoen]

After partition, pls provide figure. We are talking after partition figures. Else hindus were ruled by invaders for many years. So have more brutal data to support.
So better it would be to talk after partition and not during partition.
Provide facts and figures. India has more lower caste hindus than upper class. It's fact and supported with figures.
So request you to post like an educated man with facts and figures .

Some of us work!
Dont have time to waste with deusional people
Do your own research, i stand with everything i said!

You can star by reading these if you're completely oblivious to what is happening to Muslims in India

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48278441

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...84ffe2-bf79-11e9-a5c6-1e74f7ec4a93_story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-government-considers-a-muslim-ban-11555629051

https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india

https://time.com/5617161/india-religious-hate-crimes-modi/

 

[Captain caveman]

You can star by reading these if you're completely oblivious to what is happening to Muslims in India

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48278441

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...84ffe2-bf79-11e9-a5c6-1e74f7ec4a93_story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-government-considers-a-muslim-ban-11555629051

https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india

https://time.com/5617161/india-religious-hate-crimes-modi/

Thanks bro, just at work, sooo tired,was up all night watching the rubbish cricket match!

 

[Akki malhotra]

You can star by reading these if you're completely oblivious to what is happening to Muslims in India

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48278441

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...84ffe2-bf79-11e9-a5c6-1e74f7ec4a93_story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-government-considers-a-muslim-ban-11555629051

https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/the-violent-toll-of-hindu-nationalism-in-india

https://time.com/5617161/india-religious-hate-crimes-modi/

40 muslims died between 2015 to 2019. Thanks. Well how many hindus got killed between same time period? Would be glad if you share the same. Thanks between at least someone tried to give data. 40 died in 4 years out of 120 crore populated country is quite high number. We will improve definitely.

 

[Akki malhotra]

Thanks bro, just at work, sooo tired,was up all night watching the rubbish cricket match!

Yes thankfully. 36 -40 muslims died in last 4 plus years. Number is quite high with 125 crore populated country and high standards. We will improve though.
Would be glad if someone post the data about how many hindus killed. I am sure number would be high. All lifes are same weather it's hindus or muslims Or anyone.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I only joined this forum 6 months ago!
Whose the liar now?

Whats even funnier is that apart from me only being on this forum for 6 months, prior to the last 2 weeks, i have only posted 1 or 2 posts on time pass and that was about boxing!
I have only been posting about india on time pass since the babri masjid verdict, less than 2 weeks ago!!!

Lol. This trick will not work on me.