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How will Mohammad Amir's Test career be remembered?

Saj

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How will you remember Mohammad Amir's career?

Underachieved? Acceptable? Did better than you thought he would?
 
He didn't have one.

Too short of a career to be remembered. He did do well in that short time.
 
Unfortunately the World mostly looks at the negative side.

So the no-ball of 2010...
 
A greedy guy who quit on his nation for a few quid twice
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] you don’t like this decision, don’t you?
 
Summer 2010.

Where he became a hero and then a villain.

Unless he comes back - a talent that failed to live up to his potential; selfish player.
 
A nothing test cricketer

Selfish cricketer who is always after money.
 
Tests - a Mediocre player.

But there will be stories, conjectures and exclamations about "Oh!! what a talent!!!" for a decade or so and then he will be forgotten. Except by a few super passionate fans, and the occasional question in a quiz.

That's all he deserves really. Mediocre.
 
Amir mostly did well in England.

Outside of England, he wasn't that good.
 
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For me personally; a massive massive disappointment.

In 2009 - 2010, I was so excited that I would be lucky enough to witness the long career of an exciting likable 17 year old, who would become one of the ATG for the team I support, with 400 test wickets, and an avg of around 25 at the end.
The 2 Ws was why I started taking an interest in cricket & why I support Pakistan. I really believed Amir would be something close to that calibre.

How wrong wrong I was.
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] you don’t like this decision, don’t you?

You dont say, should he do a bhangra instead that a guy who was given a golden chance at redemption just quit on his country once more, who the hell does he think he is? Should not be allowed to play cricket again, period.
 
you would think that he would be a little grateful for all the trust that was put into him by pcb, pak cricket and fans in general, despite getting 5 wickets in 2 years.

besides eng, he was nothing special in tests. and just when he has hit good form, he decides to throw everything that was invested into him all out of the window.

he should have atleast played 5 more tests before spitting in the face of pakistan cricket
 
Won't be remembered much. Don't recall even one special spell from him after his ban.
 
You dont say, should he do a bhangra instead that a guy who was given a golden chance at redemption just quit on his country once more, who the hell does he think he is? Should not be allowed to play cricket again, period.
PCB has invested a lot in Amir and this is how he pays the PCB and us back.

Ridiculous to say the least.


Expected better from Amir however I should have known the reality...
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] you don’t like this decision, don’t you?

Not at all.

I'm not surprised that it's happened as he's been thinking about it for a while, but it's not something I am impressed by.
 
Not at all.

I'm not surprised that it's happened as he's been thinking about it for a while, but it's not something I am impressed by.

What has left you unimpressed?

He is 27, has lots of good years ahead of him and wantst o extend that in a way which is best for his body, his career and his finances. Pakistan have no shortage of good young fast bowlers coming through and if he can stay a top pick for T20s and ODIs, as Malinga did, I see no problem with it.
 
In 20 years he will be touted as one of the greatest unfulfilled talent to ever grace the cricket field. Kids will watch clips of his 2010 England series and will spin tales of how great Aamir was. But for people who has seen him, he is a decent international bowler, who is good when the conditions are suited for swing bowling.
 
What has left you unimpressed?

He is 27, has lots of good years ahead of him and wantst o extend that in a way which is best for his body, his career and his finances. Pakistan have no shortage of good young fast bowlers coming through and if he can stay a top pick for T20s and ODIs, as Malinga did, I see no problem with it.

As if the likes of Junaid Khan, Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz are not dealing with injuries and physical wear and tear. But these guys value the green cap and what it means to play for the country. The special treatment Amir in comparison to others gets when he has so little to show for it is frankly scandelous to say the least.
 
Not at all.

I'm not surprised that it's happened as he's been thinking about it for a while, but it's not something I am impressed by.


Have to agree with this. Pretty soft stuff and something that will damage his perception and legacy. He already lost his ODI spot and was lucky to get a WC recall. He is gambling and assuming he is going to be in form in ODI's and the T-20 format going forward whereas what is there to say his performances will not be subpar in those formats and the team management, selectors don't lose patience with him and drop him?

Salim Khaliq mentioned in an interview that Amir was only interested in settling and residing in the UK. He is clearly showing that he is a hoshyar, chalaak individual who wasn't such a village idiot, innocent boy as he was portrayed to be by the media for the 2010 spot fixing episode.

My personal opinion is that the PCB should downgrade his central contract and even not hessitate to drop him from the ODI and T20 team to send a message across to the other players and to prevent them from getting bright ideas about giving up test cricket
 
His Test career will be remembered by that No Ball.

He had a chance to redeem himself in the Test format, but was not meant to be.
 
Judging by his world cup exploits. Clearly someone who does better in LOIs. I think it is hilarious for someone like Shoaib Akhtar to criticize Mohammad Amir the guy who himself played only 40 test matches in a career spanning 14 years.
Mohammad Amir was averaging pretty poorly in test matches, (he bowled ok in South Africa)and his stats in Asian conditions speak for themselves. A good decision that will both help the team try new faces, and give him the opportunity to give a 100% to an already decreasing intensity in his bowling.
I mean just in the world cup the guy was averaging 130s, much slower than he usually bowls.
It's clear it's his back injury that has depreciated his intensity and pace. Though he does remain lethal on his good days. He had a good world cup no doubt about that.
 
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As if the likes of Junaid Khan, Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz are not dealing with injuries and physical wear and tear. But these guys value the green cap and what it means to play for the country. The special treatment Amir in comparison to others gets when he has so little to show for it is frankly scandelous to say the least.

I'm sorry but can you let Saj reply for once?
 
I dont want to sound like a broken record criticizing Amir for everyone decision he makes. I had a feeling this was coming in Amir's case, clearly the desire to play the longer format is not there. There was an early announcement by Amir sometime ago which was taken back I think PP reported that as well. You cant point a gun on someone's head and make them play if they dont want to. It's clear Amir was invested heavily as a player and a commercial commodity. However judging by Malinga as a cricketer and our very own limited over heroes like Malik and Afridi. You can be a cricketing great without having played alot of Test Matches. You still end up with the same category A contract and make good money in the PSL. Test cricket 8s not a priority for alot of our names now it's no surprise.
 
His whole career will be remembered for 2010. It doesn't matter what he does now his career was already defined in 2010.
 
An pretty average test career. Considering the potential he had, it’s disappointing.
 
Not at all.

I'm not surprised that it's happened as he's been thinking about it for a while, but it's not something I am impressed by.

So the rumors were true.

Thanks for answering.
 
What has left you unimpressed?

He is 27, has lots of good years ahead of him and wantst o extend that in a way which is best for his body, his career and his finances. Pakistan have no shortage of good young fast bowlers coming through and if he can stay a top pick for T20s and ODIs, as Malinga did, I see no problem with it.

I'm unimpressed by the timing, he's 27 and the next couple of years should have been his best years in Test cricket.

Pakistan cricket waited 5 years for him, and he after 3 years since his comeback is walking away from the most challenging format.

I think he's thinking of the dollar ahead of everything else.

It's worrying really, is it a trend that will continue with future Pakistani pace-bowlers?
 
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I'm unimpressed by the timing, he's 27 and the next couple of years should have been his best years in Test cricket.

I think he's thinking of the dollar ahead of everything else.

It's worrying really, is it a trend that will continue with future Pakistani pace-bowlers?

If the PCB does not act now and make an example out of him by downgrading his contract, by dropping him from the odi, T20 team and by ensuring he is not an automatic selection, they will risk some other pacer pulling off a stunt like this in the future
 
If the PCB does not act now and make an example out of him by downgrading his contract, by dropping him from the odi, T20 team and by ensuring he is not an automatic selection, they will risk some other pacer pulling off a stunt like this in the future

It all depends on what has been agreed by PCB and Amir.

I know discussions have been going on for a while.

From Amir's point of view he's probably saying to PCB you can have me at my best in 2 formats rather than average in 3 formats.
 
I'm unimpressed by the timing, he's 27 and the next couple of years should have been his best years in Test cricket.

Pakistan cricket waited 5 years for him, and he after 3 years since his comeback is walking away from the most challenging format.

I think he's thinking of the dollar ahead of everything else.

It's worrying really, is it a trend that will continue with future Pakistani pace-bowlers?

I uderstand as a fan we all want to see the best possible Amir and that may be the test version but he is simply making a decision that many others all across the globe have made. I think we should let him, he has given us some highlights and will continue to do so in the limited overs format. Who can we be to judge his career trajectory.
 
I uderstand as a fan we all want to see the best possible Amir and that may be the test version but he is simply making a decision that many others all across the globe have made. I think we should let him, he has given us some highlights and will continue to do so in the limited overs format. Who can we be to judge his career trajectory.

There's nothing to stop us from giving our opinions on it, which we are entitled to do.
 
When a floppy-haired, skinny, 17 year-old Pakistani left-arm pace-bowler made his Test debut in Galle against Sri Lanka, it was an exciting moment not only for Pakistani cricket-lovers, but fans of pace-bowling around the world. The exuberance of youth, the passion of playing cricket and most importantly the incredible levels of skill from one so young were clearly evident. The name – Mohammad Amir – was the talk of the cricketing world, taking six wickets on Test debut and after only one match he was heralded as the next Wasim Akram, as the comparisons were already being made by many.

At the start of his Test career, the southpaw was quick, aggressive, able to swing and seam the ball; in short, Amir was every captain's dream. If the skipper needed wickets, Amir more often than not would deliver. After his debut series in Sri Lanka, Amir took seven wickets in three Tests in New Zealand. Following the tour of New Zealand, Amir toured Australia and impressed many pundits with his pace and accuracy, grabbing eight wickets in two Test matches.

However, it was in 2010 that Amir's world changed forever. He was selected for the Test series in England, where Pakistan played against Australia in a two-match series in England before taking on the hosts. The two series were expected to take pace sensation to greater heights in the eyes of fans around the globe.

The tour started well as Pakistan shared spoils with Australia, drawing the series 1-1 with Amir picking up an impressive haul of 11 wickets. In terms of his bowling Amir excelled against England, taking 19 wickets in the four Tests and bowled beautifully against an impressive batting unit.

However, the much-documented events of the spot-fixing scandal during the tour of England were to damage Amir's standing and Pakistan cricket's reputation for a long time to come. Whilst some felt Amir should have been never selected again for Pakistan, others were more forgiving and felt that he deserved another chance after he had served his ban.

In 2016, following an almost six-year gap from Test cricket, Amir was back playing the longest format. Amir himself had stated that whilst he was banned he thought of quitting cricket for good, but he also felt that he had a point to prove and wanted to repay the faith shown in him by close friends, family and some team-mates. Many observers doubted Amir's return, that not having played cricket for so long, he would never be the same bowler as he was at the start of his career. There were questions about whether he would be able to cope mentally and physically in addition to moral concerns from team-mates regarding playing alongside him. It was not going to be a smooth and easy ride for Amir and he knew it.

Three years on from his comeback to international cricket, it would be fair to say that Amir's decision to retire from the red-ball format has not been a huge surprise. It was going to come, but it was just a case of when. Playing in all three formats for the modern-day fast bowler is a tough ask, with cricket being played all-year round and the lure of Twenty20 leagues possessing a huge draw for those who are lucky enough to be in demand for these leagues.

If truth be told, Amir could simply walk into most of the world's Twenty20 leagues and that is likely to have been a factor in his decision to quit Test cricket. In simple terms Amir probably thought why drag his body through the rigors of five-day cricket day-in and day-out, when he could earn a lot more money plying his trade around the world by bowling merely four overs at a time.

Amongst Pakistani cricket-lovers there are mixed feelings about Amir's decision to quit Test cricket. Many feel let down by his decision, particularly given that he is only 27 years of age and in theory should be peaking as a pace bowler. Many are disgruntled because he ended up playing only 36 Test matches across a decade, whilst some feel that the decision is purely selfish driven by financial reasons. Others are angered and feel that he has not repaid the faith of the Pakistan Cricket Board who stood by him during and after his ban.

However, whilst, there is the other lot who are more understanding towards Amir's decision. It is well-known fact that Amir has at times struggled for form and was only called-up into the World Cup 2019 squad at the last-minute. The consensus amongst those who are more understanding is that if Pakistan can have a fully-fit and motivated Amir in two formats then they would rather take that over a misfiring and unfit Amir, playing across the three formats.

Questions will be asked about the motives of Amir's decision to quit the red-ball format. Many will feel that this is a scenario which could have been resolved between the Board and the player with a compromise being made wherein Amir could have been rested for some series and tournaments.

Only Amir knows the reasons for his untimely decision, but one thing is for sure that it's a huge concern for the world of cricket to see a 27 year-old cricketer quit Test cricket in favour of playing only white-ball formats. This will surely pave way for more players to follow his path and not just within Pakistan, but beyond as well.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...e-age-of-27-is-hardly-a-surprise-7068391.html
 
Spot fixing scandal...will make it a scandalous and nothing more....few good spells here and there that it...
 
Also somebody who move asay 4rm responsibility....one hand Bumrah Archer Wood are making foray to test cricket and Pak don't play that many tests as India or Eng....still he retires.....how many t20s ir ODIS PAK will play in coming 3 years not many..... Yes there will be many t20 leagues around....
 
There's nothing to stop us from giving our opinions on it, which we are entitled to do.

That is very true but some opinions can cause a detrimental, negative impact in the media, such ast hose coming from a site like this and someone like you who obviously has close contact with the players.

The issue is, we all dream of the boy who could have done more but we have to understand we projected a hero onto a player who was either unwilling, or unable to be one.
 
That is very true but some opinions can cause a detrimental, negative impact in the media, such ast hose coming from a site like this and someone like you who obviously has close contact with the players.

The issue is, we all dream of the boy who could have done more but we have to understand we projected a hero onto a player who was either unwilling, or unable to be one.

In all honesty I stand by my opinions whatever the reaction is from other media etc. I don't believe in favouritism and will stand by my opinions.
 
When a floppy-haired, skinny, 17 year-old Pakistani left-arm pace-bowler made his Test debut in Galle against Sri Lanka, it was an exciting moment not only for Pakistani cricket-lovers, but fans of pace-bowling around the world. The exuberance of youth, the passion of playing cricket and most importantly the incredible levels of skill from one so young were clearly evident. The name – Mohammad Amir – was the talk of the cricketing world, taking six wickets on Test debut and after only one match he was heralded as the next Wasim Akram, as the comparisons were already being made by many.

At the start of his Test career, the southpaw was quick, aggressive, able to swing and seam the ball; in short, Amir was every captain's dream. If the skipper needed wickets, Amir more often than not would deliver. After his debut series in Sri Lanka, Amir took seven wickets in three Tests in New Zealand. Following the tour of New Zealand, Amir toured Australia and impressed many pundits with his pace and accuracy, grabbing eight wickets in two Test matches.

However, it was in 2010 that Amir's world changed forever. He was selected for the Test series in England, where Pakistan played against Australia in a two-match series in England before taking on the hosts. The two series were expected to take pace sensation to greater heights in the eyes of fans around the globe.

The tour started well as Pakistan shared spoils with Australia, drawing the series 1-1 with Amir picking up an impressive haul of 11 wickets. In terms of his bowling Amir excelled against England, taking 19 wickets in the four Tests and bowled beautifully against an impressive batting unit.

However, the much-documented events of the spot-fixing scandal during the tour of England were to damage Amir's standing and Pakistan cricket's reputation for a long time to come. Whilst some felt Amir should have been never selected again for Pakistan, others were more forgiving and felt that he deserved another chance after he had served his ban.

In 2016, following an almost six-year gap from Test cricket, Amir was back playing the longest format. Amir himself had stated that whilst he was banned he thought of quitting cricket for good, but he also felt that he had a point to prove and wanted to repay the faith shown in him by close friends, family and some team-mates. Many observers doubted Amir's return, that not having played cricket for so long, he would never be the same bowler as he was at the start of his career. There were questions about whether he would be able to cope mentally and physically in addition to moral concerns from team-mates regarding playing alongside him. It was not going to be a smooth and easy ride for Amir and he knew it.

Three years on from his comeback to international cricket, it would be fair to say that Amir's decision to retire from the red-ball format has not been a huge surprise. It was going to come, but it was just a case of when. Playing in all three formats for the modern-day fast bowler is a tough ask, with cricket being played all-year round and the lure of Twenty20 leagues possessing a huge draw for those who are lucky enough to be in demand for these leagues.

If truth be told, Amir could simply walk into most of the world's Twenty20 leagues and that is likely to have been a factor in his decision to quit Test cricket. In simple terms Amir probably thought why drag his body through the rigors of five-day cricket day-in and day-out, when he could earn a lot more money plying his trade around the world by bowling merely four overs at a time.

Amongst Pakistani cricket-lovers there are mixed feelings about Amir's decision to quit Test cricket. Many feel let down by his decision, particularly given that he is only 27 years of age and in theory should be peaking as a pace bowler. Many are disgruntled because he ended up playing only 36 Test matches across a decade, whilst some feel that the decision is purely selfish driven by financial reasons. Others are angered and feel that he has not repaid the faith of the Pakistan Cricket Board who stood by him during and after his ban.

However, whilst, there is the other lot who are more understanding towards Amir's decision. It is well-known fact that Amir has at times struggled for form and was only called-up into the World Cup 2019 squad at the last-minute. The consensus amongst those who are more understanding is that if Pakistan can have a fully-fit and motivated Amir in two formats then they would rather take that over a misfiring and unfit Amir, playing across the three formats.

Questions will be asked about the motives of Amir's decision to quit the red-ball format. Many will feel that this is a scenario which could have been resolved between the Board and the player with a compromise being made wherein Amir could have been rested for some series and tournaments.

Only Amir knows the reasons for his untimely decision, but one thing is for sure that it's a huge concern for the world of cricket to see a 27 year-old cricketer quit Test cricket in favour of playing only white-ball formats. This will surely pave way for more players to follow his path and not just within Pakistan, but beyond as well.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...e-age-of-27-is-hardly-a-surprise-7068391.html

Saj makes an excellent point in his article here - which other cricketers at the prime of their careers will quit Test cricket for what really look like financial reasons?
 
I'd give it a 5.5/10. It wasn't amazing but he has had good moments in Tests like back in 2010 when conditions suited him but he was not useful on batting tracks in Asia.
 
Things can be remembered for positive and negative reasons. That's why the question is being asked.

Aamir will be remembered for WT20 '09 and CT '17 if you are looking for positives. But his test career was not particularly memorable apart from one English summer.
 
one english summer and thats it. He denied himself a chance to do great things in the future , no one will care about his performance in t20 world cup , leagues or performances in bilaterals.
 
I will remember him as the first Pakistani cricketer to show the middle finger to Test Cricket.

He knows that the effort required to play Test Cricket and the monetary gains are no match for the Glity and glamorous T20 cricket. He can put less effort, expend less energy and make lot more money. Plus the chances for injury are far lower in T20 cricket and he can have a much longer career.
 
A very good bowler who had potential to go above 350 plus wickets, but decided to play mickey mouse cricket at the time when world test championship was about to start.
 
A very good bowler who had potential to go above 350 plus wickets, but decided to play mickey mouse cricket at the time when world test championship was about to start.

Potential doesn't mean Jack at the end of a career. All that counts is what you did eventually and Amirs test career is useless and meaningless
 
It all depends on what has been agreed by PCB and Amir.

I know discussions have been going on for a while.

From Amir's point of view he's probably saying to PCB you can have me at my best in 2 formats rather than average in 3 formats.

LOL what's the guarantee that Amir will deliver in odis and T20's going fwd?
 
I don’t mean to offend anyone here and if I do then I apologise in advance.

Amir’s career should forever be a reminder of what a culture of corruption can do to people, no matter what their potential.

Amir had everything, he wasn’t just the future of Pakistan fast bowling, he was the future of Pakistan cricket. Sharp, with natural pace, intelligent, very likeable and he could even bat a bit – a future captain in the making.

In the end, it was a culture of corruption that killed his career before it barely started; first the undertone of corruption that runs through the entire country (which probably made him think what he did was okay) and later the exploitation of individuals, already seasoned veterans of living and thriving within this culture that he became a part of.

Note, I’m not opening the discussion to who did what and whose fault it was, I’m just pointing out that Amir was an individual whose thinking was clearly affected by the environment he was brought up in.

Now that it appears to be coming to a close, I don’t think he will be much better in white-ball now that he has no Tests to play. For one thing, he hardly played any Tests in the last year, Pakistan’s calendar is full of two test series anyway. Likely, he’ll carry on in much the same he already has, and it will end with a whimper, after promising so much. (Although he has been very unlucky with the number of catches dropped from his bowling).

In a way, this is what the ICC were hoping for when they handed out the 5-year ban; that his career sort of just falls apart and that it leaves an impression on any other young fast bowler to stop and think twice about their life choices.
 
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