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In 3 matches for Nottinghamshire, Stuart Broad has figures of 76.3-24-188-14 with an average of 13.42, economy of 2.45 and a strike rate of 32.7

James Anderson has played 2 matches for Lancashire. Has figures of 76-26-190-7 with an average of 27.14, economy of 2.50 and a strike rate of 65.1

Anderson may not be doing that well, but I would say these 2 are Pakistan's main threats, especially as our batting line up is not too settled. If Pakistan can see off these two, we will have a great chance in the upcoming series.
 
I think most of us are worried about Azhar Ali's form.

Facing this duo will make his life very hard.
 
azhar is a big match player i am sure he will bounce back. our main problems will be out bowlers wicket taking ability which is lacking right now
 
If the team is 13/2 against Ireland against that bowling (albeit in seamer friendly conditons) then we need Ramadan blessings lol.
 
Pray that it's sunny.

If there is cloud then the Tests may be over in 3 days.
 
By giving the slippers catching practice.

I wouldn't count out some two digit totals from us if Anderson's got clouds above. If it wasn't for Faheem/Shadab, the current Test would be looking quite different.
 
Wood took six wickets today.

He is the one I fear more than Broad.

He bowls the length that Pakistani batsmen tend to struggle with. In addition he is damn quick.
 
He is the one I fear more than Broad.

He bowls the length that Pakistani batsmen tend to struggle with. In addition he is damn quick.

Skiddy like Malcolm Marshall. Broad-Wood-Anderson-Stokes would be a good attack.

If only he can stay fit.
 
Pray that it's sunny.

If there is cloud then the Tests may be over in 3 days.

It could be totally overcast but chilly, and the ball will go straight. For orthodox swing you need moist rising air. You could get that if the morning is a bit damp and the sun comes out.
 
Broad is really up and down, so it depends which version turns up. I think Pakistan can and should handle him better than Jimmy, who is having a bit of a rebirth. If he gets it to swing early and the top 3-4 get stuck in a rut of not scoring, then it spells trouble.

This is why I think Zaman should open alongside one of the others.
 
Regardless of the conditions our top order will be 40-3 guaranteed. Azhar will be lbw victim in this series and most of the others will be snick off.

None of that top 6 is capable of scoring
 
If we're struggling to handle Boyd Rankin and Tim Murtagh then we have a huge task on our hands!
 
James Anderson and Stuart Broad on their decade together with England

On their first meeting
Anderson The first game we played against each other was Lancashire v Leicestershire at Old Trafford in 2005. I remember Gibbo [Ottis Gibson] was playing for you guys, but I don’t think we actually spoke to each other.

Broad No, we definitely didn’t speak to each other because you’re not exactly the most socially friendly bloke with people you don’t know! I can then remember an England preparation camp for the 2006-07 Ashes in Loughborough. You were going on that tour but I was just up there as part of the academy and a few of us got involved in the training camp. But you didn’t speak to anyone you didn’t already know.

Anderson I was just shy. Although Cooky always reminds me that the first words I ever uttered to him were a send-off in an Essex game!

On playing together for the first time at the 2007 World Cup
Broad In our very first game as team-mates we hit the winning runs together. I don’t think we’ve ever done it since.

Anderson We are very rarely out there batting together when games finish. Even in drawn games, Broady is nowhere to be seen. You’re a bit of a cowboy, aren’t you

Broad Longest nought in the history of English Test cricket, old boy!

On whether their friendship is competitive
Anderson Not really, because we weren’t really like-for-like. We are different types of bowlers.

Broad I would come in for Harmy to begin with and Jimmy would come in for Hoggy, and then when we got our chance together in New Zealand [in their first Test together in 2008], Ryan Sidebottom was the main opening bowler so we had different roles to play.

Anderson We’d toured Sri Lanka together in 2007 and both carried the drinks a fair bit, which was good for us because we spent a lot of time together and got to know each other doing 12th-man duties. Swanny was there with us doing the same, so that’s where the friendship grew from. Some people say having competitiveness between team-mates is healthy but I’ve never really found it to be healthy. For example, the Gough/Caddick relationship in the dressing room was absolutely horrible to experience. It might have driven them on but from a team’s point of view it was awful.

Broad We’ve never had that edge to want to outdo each other. We’ve had occasions where we’ve actually tried to get the other one a wicket if they’re on four, or nine for the match.

Anderson We played Sri Lanka last year and I was on nine for the match. They were nine down and Broady came off mid-spell and said: “Come on, you get this last one.”

On family
Broad Our parents are quite close actually.

Anderson We went for a coffee this afternoon and bumped into Stu’s mum and stepdad and got chatting. At the end his mum says: “I’ll tell your mum and dad I’ve seen you and you’re doing well.” It’s quite nice that they’ve been through this whole journey with us for more than 10 years and they’ve got a relationship too.

Broad That’s one of the good things about cricket, the friendships around the game. My parents are still good friends with Straussy’s parents.

On their best spells of bowling
Anderson The best I’ve seen from him was in the 2009 Ashes at The Oval – cleaned them up good and proper. Seriously good balls to seriously good players. It was under pressure, an important moment. That was a terrific spell.

Broad Jimmy at Trent Bridge in 2013 was incredible – not just the fact it was a long spell, but a genuine match-winning performance. To get 10-for on a pitch that no one else got much out of was so skilful. I’m not sure I’ve ever felt as on-edge as I was that last day and he pops up with that final wicket. And I can remember my favourite moment on the field to his bowling was in the 2015 Ashes when I was stood at short mid-on and he nicked off Adam Voges. Mitch Marsh came in and went for a big drive. I was next to Chris Rogers, the non-striker, and as Marsh played the shot I could hear Rogers go: “Ahhh no!” There’s a picture of that somewhere.

Anderson Talking of pictures, I remember another great spell from him and then taking the catch in Durham in 2013 to win the Ashes, and you’ve got Broady in the foreground and me throwing the ball up. These are the moments you live for.

On the toughest batsmen they have faced
Broad Marcus Trescothick. No question. I hate bowling to him. I pitch it up, he drives me through the covers. I bowl back of a length, he runs me down to third-man. I go short, and he lifts me over the keeper or pulls me for four. People say go full with an in-swinger early to him, he just hits me for four. He’s the one I’ve never found a way past.

Anderson You should run it across him from straight. I struggle with batsmen who have a lot of time and make you feel slower than you are, so Kumar Sangakkara was a big one. I’ve got him early once or twice but if you don’t he’s getting 180. Hashim Amla is similar.

On the players they enjoy bowling to
Broad AB de Villiers, Ross Taylor, Michael Clarke.

Anderson I look back to my early days and think: “I would love to bowl at Graeme Smith with the skills I’ve got now.” Or Ricky Ponting. In 2010 I had some success, but before that I hated it – I was scared of bowling at him. I’d love to bowl at Hayden, Gilchrist and people like that now, because it might be a bit more of an even contest.

On the advice they would give their younger selves
Broad Believe in your mental approach more. Mark Bawden [England’s team psychologist] helped me at the end of 2010 when I decided I needed to make a change emotionally. I threw the ball at the Pakistan keeper [Zulqarnain Haider], I was getting into a bit of trouble and getting a reputation. Mark set up a whole “warrior mode” mentality for me so when I get angry I look out of the ground. If I could have done that when I was 20 instead of 25 I would have developed much quicker as a cricketer. But then you need to make mistakes to learn.

Anderson I’ve not heard you say that before and I was exactly the same with Bawds. Before I met him I got angry and then would try to bowl as fast as I could and leak more runs. It was pointless. Since I’ve controlled that, I’ve got a lot better. I would also tell a 20-year-old me to trust myself more. Even if you’re in the England team, just because a coach says something it’s not gospel. Filter the stuff that works for you and trust your own mind.

On the summer ahead for England
Anderson We’ve got to start producing the goods more often. We’ve been so inconsistent over the winter and it has cost us. We’re more comfortable at home, which helps, but we have to be on our A-game for Pakistan and then for India. It won’t be easy.

Broad We can’t be complacent at all and we won’t be.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/16/james-anderson-stuart-broad-england-cricket
 
On their first meeting
Anderson The first game we played against each other was Lancashire v Leicestershire at Old Trafford in 2005. I remember Gibbo [Ottis Gibson] was playing for you guys, but I don’t think we actually spoke to each other.

Broad No, we definitely didn’t speak to each other because you’re not exactly the most socially friendly bloke with people you don’t know! I can then remember an England preparation camp for the 2006-07 Ashes in Loughborough. You were going on that tour but I was just up there as part of the academy and a few of us got involved in the training camp. But you didn’t speak to anyone you didn’t already know.

Anderson I was just shy. Although Cooky always reminds me that the first words I ever uttered to him were a send-off in an Essex game!

On playing together for the first time at the 2007 World Cup
Broad In our very first game as team-mates we hit the winning runs together. I don’t think we’ve ever done it since.

Anderson We are very rarely out there batting together when games finish. Even in drawn games, Broady is nowhere to be seen. You’re a bit of a cowboy, aren’t you

Broad Longest nought in the history of English Test cricket, old boy!

On whether their friendship is competitive
Anderson Not really, because we weren’t really like-for-like. We are different types of bowlers.

Broad I would come in for Harmy to begin with and Jimmy would come in for Hoggy, and then when we got our chance together in New Zealand [in their first Test together in 2008], Ryan Sidebottom was the main opening bowler so we had different roles to play.

Anderson We’d toured Sri Lanka together in 2007 and both carried the drinks a fair bit, which was good for us because we spent a lot of time together and got to know each other doing 12th-man duties. Swanny was there with us doing the same, so that’s where the friendship grew from. Some people say having competitiveness between team-mates is healthy but I’ve never really found it to be healthy. For example, the Gough/Caddick relationship in the dressing room was absolutely horrible to experience. It might have driven them on but from a team’s point of view it was awful.

Broad We’ve never had that edge to want to outdo each other. We’ve had occasions where we’ve actually tried to get the other one a wicket if they’re on four, or nine for the match.

Anderson We played Sri Lanka last year and I was on nine for the match. They were nine down and Broady came off mid-spell and said: “Come on, you get this last one.”

On family
Broad Our parents are quite close actually.

Anderson We went for a coffee this afternoon and bumped into Stu’s mum and stepdad and got chatting. At the end his mum says: “I’ll tell your mum and dad I’ve seen you and you’re doing well.” It’s quite nice that they’ve been through this whole journey with us for more than 10 years and they’ve got a relationship too.

Broad That’s one of the good things about cricket, the friendships around the game. My parents are still good friends with Straussy’s parents.

On their best spells of bowling
Anderson The best I’ve seen from him was in the 2009 Ashes at The Oval – cleaned them up good and proper. Seriously good balls to seriously good players. It was under pressure, an important moment. That was a terrific spell.

Broad Jimmy at Trent Bridge in 2013 was incredible – not just the fact it was a long spell, but a genuine match-winning performance. To get 10-for on a pitch that no one else got much out of was so skilful. I’m not sure I’ve ever felt as on-edge as I was that last day and he pops up with that final wicket. And I can remember my favourite moment on the field to his bowling was in the 2015 Ashes when I was stood at short mid-on and he nicked off Adam Voges. Mitch Marsh came in and went for a big drive. I was next to Chris Rogers, the non-striker, and as Marsh played the shot I could hear Rogers go: “Ahhh no!” There’s a picture of that somewhere.

Anderson Talking of pictures, I remember another great spell from him and then taking the catch in Durham in 2013 to win the Ashes, and you’ve got Broady in the foreground and me throwing the ball up. These are the moments you live for.

On the toughest batsmen they have faced
Broad Marcus Trescothick. No question. I hate bowling to him. I pitch it up, he drives me through the covers. I bowl back of a length, he runs me down to third-man. I go short, and he lifts me over the keeper or pulls me for four. People say go full with an in-swinger early to him, he just hits me for four. He’s the one I’ve never found a way past.

Anderson You should run it across him from straight. I struggle with batsmen who have a lot of time and make you feel slower than you are, so Kumar Sangakkara was a big one. I’ve got him early once or twice but if you don’t he’s getting 180. Hashim Amla is similar.

On the players they enjoy bowling to
Broad AB de Villiers, Ross Taylor, Michael Clarke.

Anderson I look back to my early days and think: “I would love to bowl at Graeme Smith with the skills I’ve got now.” Or Ricky Ponting. In 2010 I had some success, but before that I hated it – I was scared of bowling at him. I’d love to bowl at Hayden, Gilchrist and people like that now, because it might be a bit more of an even contest.

On the advice they would give their younger selves
Broad Believe in your mental approach more. Mark Bawden [England’s team psychologist] helped me at the end of 2010 when I decided I needed to make a change emotionally. I threw the ball at the Pakistan keeper [Zulqarnain Haider], I was getting into a bit of trouble and getting a reputation. Mark set up a whole “warrior mode” mentality for me so when I get angry I look out of the ground. If I could have done that when I was 20 instead of 25 I would have developed much quicker as a cricketer. But then you need to make mistakes to learn.

Anderson I’ve not heard you say that before and I was exactly the same with Bawds. Before I met him I got angry and then would try to bowl as fast as I could and leak more runs. It was pointless. Since I’ve controlled that, I’ve got a lot better. I would also tell a 20-year-old me to trust myself more. Even if you’re in the England team, just because a coach says something it’s not gospel. Filter the stuff that works for you and trust your own mind.

On the summer ahead for England
Anderson We’ve got to start producing the goods more often. We’ve been so inconsistent over the winter and it has cost us. <B><I>We’re more comfortable at home, which helps,</I></B> but we have to be on our A-game for Pakistan and then for India. It won’t be easy.

Broad We can’t be complacent at all and we won’t be.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/16/james-anderson-stuart-broad-england-cricket

Nicely put up.
 
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So if the series does happen, what are our chances against these 2 bowlers?
 
So if the series does happen, what are our chances against these 2 bowlers?
Knowing how unprofessional our guys can be, I expect them to be extremely rusty and not fully fit post COVID. Might be a disaster for our team this England tour.
 
So if the series does happen, what are our chances against these 2 bowlers?

They past thier peak but stil good bowlers babar will try and dominate the attack
 
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For some reason, not sure why Pakistan generally does well in England. I believe they will be competitive this time as well
 
Anderson and Broad have played an alarming number of series against Pakistan
 
For some reason, not sure why Pakistan generally does well in England. I believe they will be competitive this time as well

Becouse not all pitches have swing and seen for example lords and the oval its flat and abit of spin
 
For some reason, not sure why Pakistan generally does well in England. I believe they will be competitive this time as well

because they prepared well last time by touring Ireland and also playing county.

india doesn't prep well hence they fail in england. Back in 07 when they last won they had a proper training camp in england and played 3 first class tour series tonget adjusted before playing.
 
Broad is the real threat I recon. Anderson seems to have lost that zip that he had 10 years ago and Pakistan play him a lot better now.
 
because they prepared well last time by touring Ireland and also playing county.

india doesn't prep well hence they fail in england. Back in 07 when they last won they had a proper training camp in england and played 3 first class tour series tonget adjusted before playing.

You think its to do with preparations so if pakistan had good preparation against Australia or New Zealand they should have some drawn series ?
 
You think its to do with preparations so if pakistan had good preparation against Australia or New Zealand they should have some drawn series ?

a good team certainly would. If they acclimated to the new environment ofcourse they can.

When did pakistam prep well for australia? Last I recall was in the 2000 era.

Australia played 4 first class matches and borrowed indian soil to prepare for a difficult series and India and still lost.

India never prepared that way for an Australian or English series due to a far higher workload.
 
a good team certainly would. If they acclimated to the new environment ofcourse they can.

When did pakistam prep well for australia? Last I recall was in the 2000 era.

Australia played 4 first class matches and borrowed indian soil to prepare for a difficult series and India and still lost.

India never prepared that way for an Australian or English series due to a far higher workload.

To some extent your right but I'd always say if pakistan played 3 warm up games before austrlia series and New Zealand series they will stil end up losing the series the fact of the matter is england pitches like lords and oval suit pakistan were in New Zealand it swings for more than a session and in austrlia the bouncy conditions are always thier
 
To some extent your right but I'd always say if pakistan played 3 warm up games before austrlia series and New Zealand series they will stil end up losing the series the fact of the matter is england pitches like lords and oval suit pakistan were in New Zealand it swings for more than a session and in austrlia the bouncy conditions are always thier

maybe. maybe not. But we don't know unless we try right? Pakistan need to create tailor made bouncy pitches in Pakistan for practice. who knows they might win.
 
Pakistan tour of England (2020)

Lets see how this pans out given the Coronavirus Pandemic.

West Indies tour postponed, Hundred pushed to 2021.

And of this Daily Mail report is to be believed, it could be held in closed doors.

Another complication could be if the UK Gov introduces compulsory quarantining for foreign arrivals.

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English cricket's controversial new The Hundred competition faces an uncertain future after the ECB bowed to the inevitable on Thursday and called it off until next year.

The innovation that has divided the game was due to be held in peak summer but the ECB have had to accept they cannot contemplate launching a new competition aimed at attracting a new audience to cricket in the midst of the coronavirus crisis.

Now they will carry on planning for what they still hope will be a truncated summer prioritising the proposed Test series against West Indies and Pakistan in 'bio-secure' environments behind closed doors.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8273825/The-CANCELLED-2021-blow-ECB.html
 
maybe. maybe not. But we don't know unless we try right? Pakistan need to create tailor made bouncy pitches in Pakistan for practice. who knows they might win.

True but it needs to come from the domestic pitches so player know how to handle bounce also pakistan pitches thier no balance between ball and bat they all dead pitches hence why they struggle in foreign conditions
 
True but it needs to come from the domestic pitches so player know how to handle bounce also pakistan pitches thier no balance between ball and bat they all dead pitches hence why they struggle in foreign conditions

see this I disagree with.

pakistam should never change their home pitches. You lose the home advantage. Flat tracks or dry pitches is perfect for pakistan to dominate at home as they are acclimated to those type of pitches.

My point was to prepare artificial turf that replicates the trampoline esque bouncy nature of australian pitches for practice prior to touring away. Borrow soil and create the artificial turf. Then proceed to play 3 proper first class games in australia before starting the official tour. That's the system australia implemented in 2017 vs india but they still lost lol. india just too strong at home.

you don't ever want to lose your home advantage though. Pakistan should never change their pitch conditions. These pitches gave us wasim, shoaib, asif etc.
 
see this I disagree with.

pakistam should never change their home pitches. You lose the home advantage. Flat tracks or dry pitches is perfect for pakistan to dominate at home as they are acclimated to those type of pitches.

My point was to prepare artificial turf that replicates the trampoline esque bouncy nature of australian pitches for practice prior to touring away. Borrow soil and create the artificial turf. Then proceed to play 3 proper first class games in australia before starting the official tour. That's the system australia implemented in 2017 vs india but they still lost lol. india just too strong at home.

you don't ever want to lose your home advantage though. Pakistan should never change their pitch conditions. These pitches gave us wasim, shoaib, asif etc.

So what is pakistan advantage of playing home is it that it's going to suit spinners or fast bowlers or batters.pakistan doesnt have many good spinners for test match.

Also we all know what pakistan is like with maintaince and venues but yes it's a good idea but you proberly only going to have 2 tours max in austrlia or New Zealand in a year.
 
So what is pakistan advantage of playing home is it that it's going to suit spinners or fast bowlers or batters.pakistan doesnt have many good spinners for test match.

Also we all know what pakistan is like with maintaince and venues but yes it's a good idea but you proberly only going to have 2 tours max in austrlia or New Zealand in a year.

fair enough. Well misbah's team usually had dry pitches so stick to that. Misbah knows better. He knows how to dominate at home. We are already starting to see results. Can't wait for australia or england to tour and get demolished.

I will always support india ofcourse but I do want to see Asian teams dominate the world as well.

Hopefully pakistan and Sri Lanka will become powerhouses again and beat everyone else except india lol.
 
fair enough. Well misbah's team usually had dry pitches so stick to that. Misbah knows better. He knows how to dominate at home. We are already starting to see results. Can't wait for australia or england to tour and get demolished.

I will always support india ofcourse but I do want to see Asian teams dominate the world as well.

Hopefully pakistan and Sri Lanka will become powerhouses again and beat everyone else except india lol.

Yeah dry pitches normally means 345 days spin we dont have any good spinners so change the thinking and try to create fast pitches.sri lanka will take ages to become powerhouse.pakistan can become powerhouse their fast bowlers in 1 year will be up thier with the best but unfortunately thiers only babar who is is world class until the likes of shafiq azar move on I dont see much hope but we do have alot of upcoming batesman.to name a few haider ali rohail nazir,bin yousuf and hurraira they just need to be groomed and neutered
 
By Sudipto Ganguly
MUMBAI, May 12 (Reuters) - Kevin Pietersen is concerned about England's test bowling resources when the long-serving pace duo of James Anderson and Stuart Broad call time on their careers, the former captain has told Reuters.

The experienced new ball pair, both in their 30s, have recently said they were aiming to be part of England's bid to reclaim the Ashes in Australia next year and would subsequently consider retirement.

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"I am worried about England's test team, when Broad and Anderson go. They are on their last legs at the moment," Pietersen told Reuters in an interview.

"If Broad and Anderson go, there's going to be a big, big gap to fill. Do they have the bowlers?

"Mark Wood is very good, however he's full of injuries. And Joffra Archer, he's also had that elbow injury during that South African series, so he hardly played.

"So it will be about how quickly England can fill that gap because ... if you can't take 20 wickets in the test match you really are behind the eight ball."

Anderson, 37, is test cricket's most prolific fast bowler with 584 victims but has not played since January when he suffered a rib injury in South Africa.

Broad, who is second on England's list with 485 wickets, is four years younger but does not see his playing career continuing as long as Anderson's.

Pietersen was more confident about the leadership of the team, though admitted he was among those who had reservations about Joe Root's captaincy before the 3-1 test series triumph in South Africa earlier this year.

"I think that he came away from that tour a much better leader, a much better captain, and with a lot more respect from a lot of people that had reservations about him leading into that test tour in South Africa," he said.

England held Australia to a 2-2 draw in last year's home Ashes series but even then needed Ben Stokes's brilliant unbeaten 135 to win the third test in thrilling fashion at Headingley.

The New Zealand-born all-rounder also played a spectacular leading role in England's 50-overs World Cup triumph in 2019 and was Player of the Series in South Africa.

"He's been absolutely sensational over the last few years," said Pietersen.

"We all knew he had cricketing talent, we all knew he had the ability to turn the game on its head.

"But for him to consistently do it, and for him to prepare the way that he continues to prepare, and to play the way that he plays, he is a huge asset to that England team."

Despite his appreciation for Stokes's abilities, Pietersen said it was too soon to compare the 28-year-old with England great Ian Botham.

"Comparing people, I think you can only do at the end of a career," said Pietersen, who scored more than 8,000 runs for England in 104 tests.

"In terms of match winning they're right up there with each other. They both win games, single-handedly, so the comparisons I think are quite unfair while a guy is still playing.

"I hated being compared to people. I just wanted to play and be me."

South African-born Pietersen has continued to be himself after retiring from cricket in 2018, becoming deeply involved in animal conservation and highlighting the plight of the rhinoceros.

His charity, Save our Rhino Africa/India (SORAI), will be relaunched towards the end of June. (Editing by Nick Mulvenney and Peter Rutherford)

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cricket...ce-post-anderson-broad_sto7746634/story.shtml
 
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