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How would you fit Mohammad Hafeez in Pakistan's batting lineup for the World Cup?

I would open with haris instead. He has the class to get the boundaries away when the field is up.
I worry about his running between the wickets when comparing him to the rest of yesterday's top 6, most of whom can take sharp singles, and turn ones into 2s.
If he opens then that issue is solved, and Babar sticks to what he knows
Haris is not comfortable on short pitch deliveries. Opening with him is risky. He might fail 8/10 matches opening an innings.
 
Optimal Squad

Fakhar
Babar
Harris
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Asif
Imad (backup Malik)
Shadab
Hasan
Amir (backup Junaid)
Shaheen

14. Imam
15. Faheem

16. Abid (probably misses out in the 15 for the WC)
17. Hasnain (probably misses out in the 15 for the WC)


* I will be fine if Malik has to make way for Abid in the squad but doesn't look very practical given our selection committee.
* Faheem has been a regular in the playing 11 so hard to see him cut from the 15. Besides he has been relatively economical.
 
Haris is not comfortable on short pitch deliveries. Opening with him is risky. He might fail 8/10 matches opening an innings.

It's worth the risk. He's out number 3 in test cricket so should be able to open on flat phattas
 
haris sohail is a mental midget. I dont care what his average is, drop Haris Sohail and pick hafeez.
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Asif Ali
Imad
Shadab /pick junaid for now
Hasan
Hasnain
Shaheen
 
Ok lets see how much we can score without haris. Its not like we will get flat roads every game. There will be something for bowlers.and iam sure that we will be often 10-1 50-2 in worldcup and then at no 4 mighty hafeez wil come and get out cheaply and malik will score 50 ball 33 and get out to mid off or mid on so we only get 250.iam sure this will happen if we play hafeez and malik at 4 and 5 🙂
 
Hafeez has a SR of 76 and an average of 33 after 200 matches! Harris averages in the 40s and his SR is in the 80s. Or do you don’t look at facts just like the selectors only because he is a “ senior” .

Senseless post, I really like Haris but Hafeez has been playing cricket since the days when SR used to be in 70s so he is bound to have low overall SR.. want to compare the two? post the SR of both for the last 3-4 years and you will know who plays with a higher strike rate.. Hafeez is a beast in modern day cricket when he gets going he becomes unstoppable ..Haris doesn't have that ability but still better no 3 player than babar imo
 
want to compare the two? post the SR of both for the last 3-4 years and you will know who plays with a higher strike rate.. Hafeez is a beast in modern day cricket when he gets going he becomes unstoppable ..Haris doesn't have that ability but still better no 3 player than babar imo

This, good post.

Hafeez is very underrated.
 
Senseless post, I really like Haris but Hafeez has been playing cricket since the days when SR used to be in 70s so he is bound to have low overall SR.. want to compare the two? post the SR of both for the last 3-4 years and you will know who plays with a higher strike rate.. Hafeez is a beast in modern day cricket when he gets going he becomes unstoppable ..Haris doesn't have that ability but still better no 3 player than babar imo

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Hafeez stats since 2015, Ave of 40 with a SR of 84. Against top rated opposition.





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Haris stats since debut, Ave of 51 with a SR of 81. Against top rated opposition (hasn't played SA yet).

Haris is clearly the superior batsman. For 3 SR points lower a +11 run advantage in average.
 
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Hafeez stats since 2015, Ave of 40 with a SR of 84. Against top rated opposition.





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Haris stats since debut, Ave of 51 with a SR of 81. Against top rated opposition (hasn't played SA yet).

Haris is clearly the superior batsman. For 3 SR points lower a +11 run advantage in average.


I think there is one more dimension missing in these stats (not that I am saying one is better than the other) and its the impact of the runs scored. Would be great if someone can post how many games Pakistan has won after Hafeez gets a 50+ score vs Haris getting a 50+ score.
 
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Hafeez stats since 2015, Ave of 40 with a SR of 84. Against top rated opposition.





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Haris stats since debut, Ave of 51 with a SR of 81. Against top rated opposition (hasn't played SA yet).

Haris is clearly the superior batsman. For 3 SR points lower a +11 run advantage in average.

I was not even comparing the two. My point was including hafeez's strike rate from bygone era and comparing that to Haris' career SR who has just played in modern days when conditions favour batsmen is unfair..
Thanks for posting SSs though
 
The only way Pak management will adjust Hafeez is my dropping Haris. So the real competition is between Haris and Imam because we all know its Imam who deserves to be dropped. But aloo inzi will make sure Imam plays every game.

Ideally Babar or Sarfaraz should be opening with Fakhar. Hafeez, Asif and Imad at the end will give us that boost we need to win games. Imagine if it was Hafeez playing with Asif till the end instead of Sarfaraz in the last game, you know that Pakistan would have won!
 
I think there is one more dimension missing in these stats (not that I am saying one is better than the other) and its the impact of the runs scored. Would be great if someone can post how many games Pakistan has won after Hafeez gets a 50+ score vs Haris getting a 50+ score.

Stop data mining. Haris is miles better than Hafeez and everything proves it.. impact of runs LOL

Hafeez only makes this team right now in place of imam and he can’t open anymore, and you can’t displace your best bat in Babar.

Hafeez also doesn’t bowl anymore... so only way to fit Hafeez in is if Haris or Sarfraz open.

Let’s just save him the embarrassment of steyn nicking him off one final time
 
What a ridiculous thread, why have to bring Hafeez in the 11. We all know he is a useless player when ball moves even slightly. At 40 he should have retired, he is unfit too.
 
Haris should have been tried out as opener ages back, but I think it's unrealistic to expect him to open, don't think he's ever done. Babar opening is a bit more realistic as he does it in domestic, and does it in T20s, but even that don't think management will want to risk it before the WC again needed to be done a few series ago.

Abid coming in for Imam is probably the way, hopefully he'll have a similar impact to what Fakhar had at the CT, it's clear Abid's talented, has the shots, right handed for right-left combo and performing in domestic. Think it's a good risk to take.

I think's it more down to Haris, Hafeez and Asif for the remaining slots. You could make a case for any of the three all have their pros and cons. Pretty sure Haris is the more reliable bat, but lacks ability to accelerate more than the other two. It's extremely irritating Haris hasn't played many ODIs since he came back from injury, was thoughtless by the Coach, giving chances to Imam but carrying Haris on in the squad. I get they are similar cricketers to an extent so hard to fit in all at once, but really we should have made sure Haris wasn't ODI material or not. Instead we're carrying him in the squad, as we still don't know.

I'd go with Haris just because of his talent and reliable scoring. Hafeez or Asif is the tough one. Hafeez is showing increasing struggles to play pace probably due to his age, and think would be eaten alive opening or at 3 now. He was never great at it, but held his own there in the past and of course added more to the team batting +bowling, and there were less good batsmen in the team in the past for him to compete with. Asif has better hitting abilities but there are doubts on his consistency due to his domestic record and I do wonder if he hold up against spin. Hafeez's experience will help too in terms of guiding his team home, and maximising the runs against the weaker/spin bowlers. People then again overrate Hafeez's form, he too has been in and out of the team lately, you don't know whether he's in rich form or not.

I was leaning to Asif, but honestly it's a coin flip, I don't really know who I'd pick between these two, it's a really tough decision.
 
Since Imam is scoring well, and today he scored at 115sr, i think Haris will sit out for Hafeez. Only way for all off them to play is if we play 1 fast bowler less which Management will avoid and rightfully so. Should we play less fast bowlers the team would look like this:

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Hafeez
Asif
Imad
Hassan
Shadab
Shaheen

The above team is batting heavy but lacks a good fast bowler like Amir. So clearly a batsman has to go!
 
Why would anyone with sane mind will put Hafeez in he was part of 2003 2007 2011 2015 WC ad what did we achieved still remember his ugly failed scoop in Mohai vs Munaf patel of all people:94:
 
Senseless post, I really like Haris but Hafeez has been playing cricket since the days when SR used to be in 70s so he is bound to have low overall SR.. want to compare the two? post the SR of both for the last 3-4 years and you will know who plays with a higher strike rate.. Hafeez is a beast in modern day cricket when he gets going he becomes unstoppable ..Haris doesn't have that ability but still better no 3 player than babar imo

Have a look at Hafeez record in ICC tournments. His one innigns in the CT final ( was a great knock) is his stand out innings. He averages about 23 in about 7-8 ICC tournaments which includes CT, ICC T20 and 50 over world cup. For that reason alone Haris should start. Hafeez as gone missing when the pressure is on. Haris performed well in the 2015 world cup which was his only big tournament.

Hafeez just cant cut it in big tournaments., same goes for Malik especailly in England.
 
Good comeback for Hafeez but needs to kick on now and get us to 350!
 
He played a good innings today. First match back from injury
 
Good effort, job done and place cemented for WC - never mind the fact that the team will only score about 320 on a 500 pitch.
 
Good effort, job done and place cemented for WC - never mind the fact that the team will only score about 320 on a 500 pitch.

haha, to be honest at position he came innings was okay...but two other factors impacting our final score more today:
1. babar not accelerating after getting 50 vs waiting till after 100 (could have had 15 + runs more in same balls perhaps, or even if got out we had enough batting).
2. them sending shoaib i guess needed to to test before WC, but ideally could send Asif at that point and send shoaib if hafeez got out.

anyway the bigger problem we may face today is lack of shadab and playing hafeez/shoaib as 5th bowler. off spinners with no doosra and short boundary is recipe for 400+

only a super performance from pacers to knock out their top 5 somehow could save us today.
 
Have a look at Hafeez record in ICC tournments. His one innigns in the CT final ( was a great knock) is his stand out innings. He averages about 23 in about 7-8 ICC tournaments which includes CT, ICC T20 and 50 over world cup. For that reason alone Haris should start. Hafeez as gone missing when the pressure is on. Haris performed well in the 2015 world cup which was his only big tournament.

Hafeez just cant cut it in big tournaments., same goes for Malik especailly in England.

Pitches have got flatter over the years... In previous ICC tournaments in which he played except CT conditions were not as easier as they are now for the batting so again it's not right to judge him like that. His strike rate in last 3-4 years have been one of the best in the side for that reason alone he should be in the side especially when we are seeing we can't score quick. We need players who score with high strikerates rather than players who play selfish cricket to increase or maintain their avgs.
Repeating, I like Haris he should be playing at 3 imo instead of babar and hafeez at 4 or 6 but as babar won't be dropped we need hafeez in place of haris I think as he is someone who can accelerate at any moment
 
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