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New Zealand (320/5) defeat Pakistan (260) comfortably by 60 runs to clinch triumph in the inaugural match of ICC Champions Trophy 2025

Major said:
I am happy no matter how Pakistan win.

There is a bunch of you that were even whining about the world cup 2023 win against the NZ 400 that it rained and allow Pakistan win.

Anyways, you should celebrate, cause Pakistan lost.
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What’s celebrating? Maybe things will change? Pakistan might start doing things the way we like!?
 
shaz619 said:
What did Rizwan achieve with the bat today besides grinding it with your cricket bat?
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Its funny how you wana nitpick and blame the non performance of others on Rizwan.

Rizwan sucekd aswell today, but than also accept Saud and Fakhar sucked instead of coming up with excuses.

The team isnt a world beater team, everyone knows it, they arnt even the favourites. But hey, we still are watching.
 
Major said:
Saud sucks. Nice try i knew people will blame Rizwan for saud and fakhar sucking today.

Saud plays 1 down, if he was dumb enough to play a shot at the back, than thats his fault. Fakhar also sucked aswell, if he wasnt up for it should not had came out to bat than
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Saud doesn't fit into white ball Cricket. He's a Test player like Fawad Alam and Pujara.

Fakhar shouldn't have come out in the middle if he was not well. But I bet everyone in management were like. Fakhar please save us.
 
Rana said:
What’s celebrating? Maybe things will change? Pakistan might start doing things the way we like!?
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You are. You should celebrate. One step closer to getting your passport.

Your match is tomr btw with Bangladesh
 
The other teams in this tournament should bear in mind that Pakistan can bat right up to Khushdil at no 7. So those batting first against Pakistan should aim put up a big score upwards of 300.
 
Lets get back to the team or close to at leadt to the one that did so well in the previous 3 series ...Pak just panicked needlesly after losing Saim

Fakhar (if fit)
Usman
Babar
Riz
Salman
Kamran
Khusdhdil
Afridi
Naseem
Haris
Abrar
 
mominsaigol said:
No one is happy that Pakistan lost but you can't defend the way the openers batted. They lost the game in the first 10 overs Everything afterwards were just dil khush karnei walei innings.

You can't justify saud, Babar and rizwan for playing the way that they did.

One must question why misbah decided to make babar and rizwan his t20 openers.

The only saving grace for rizzu is that their aren't any wicket keepers that can replace him and he can accumulate against 3rd string attacks like b string sa, C string aus, Sri Lanka etc and haris, Usman Khan don't have a track record against their teams.

But babar has zero saving graces atm. It's come to a point that you can't even claim replacements don't exist since I'm 100% sure you could have imam open and he'd probably do an equally bad or heck slightly better job then babar atm.
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He failed with the bat whilst disturbing the entire balance and as captain, he was very one dimensional. We saw how pathetically defensive his captaincy was in the tri-series and here he lost his marbles once NZ settled in the middle overs and didn’t know what to do, NZ could have been restricted between 240-260 at one point.
 
batandballbattle said:
Even then he has played well. There was still pressure for his position in the team since he got a lot of criticism
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Oh yaar even Harris was hitting sixes for fun. This isn’t playing well. You play well when you are in a competition.

NZ had won by then. When he plays like this when needed then lmk
 
shaz619 said:
He failed with the bat whilst disturbing the entire balance and as captain, he was very one dimensional. We saw how pathetically defensive his captaincy was in the tri-series and here he lost his marbles once NZ settled in the middle overs and didn’t know what to do, NZ could have been restricted between 240-260 at one point.
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The problem with rizwan type players is that they require hand holding from someone else to succeed at the crease.

Last time it was agha, Before this it was Abdullah.

In both games vs sri lanka and sa he played a good innings but it was a support role.

Same with Babar, People don't remember that his 2019 innings vs NZ was equally slow and Haris sohail masked the innings and hard carried him, yet people used the whole difficult conditons excuse.

At their best these 2 are accumulators who require support at the other end. At their worst their tail enders.

Saud in odi is the exact same, infact he's worse lol.

Fakhar and saim make a huge difference and it's no wonder Pakistan in t20 collapsed as soon as these 2 were made openers.
 
Rana said:
Karachi crowd turns up for once and exposes itself as one of the dumbest crowd in cricket history
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How is it dumb? THere is a win possibility of 50%, so whenever the home team doesnt win that crowd is the dumbest?

These gems you post, are they part of the Indian Passport application process?
 
Nado_ said:
Your right , il go as far as to say that first ten overs has cost us the whole tournament
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Management had no clue or plan what to do if Fakhar was not opening.

The fact is. This top order that they have chosen never had belief in themselves. They rely on Fakhar to give start and it is Fakhar that has carried Pakistan ODI batting since debut. Babar only scores soft runs vs B/C teams or Zimbabwe / Nepal teams.
 
RidiculousMan said:
They are better than Saud in white ball. Specially ODI.
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Rizwan atleast has won games. Babar is living off on his reputation. Totally match losing innings today no wonder Pakistan won nothing when he was captain . Saud should just be in tests he has no business in odis
 
Major said:
Its funny how you wana nitpick and blame the non performance of others on Rizwan.

Rizwan sucekd aswell today, but than also accept Saud and Fakhar sucked instead of coming up with excuses.

The team isnt a world beater team, everyone knows it, they arnt even the favourites. But hey, we still are watching.
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This is Rizwan’s team/selections, he was the captain today to and at one point Pak were on top early in the day, but Rizwan lost his marbles due to his defensive captaincy and under the spotlight of a high pressure tournament he failed once again. Rizwan is the number one culprit for his all round pathetic showing today and orchestrating a toxic environment, a culture of mediocrity and no real vision or strategy behind his tactics other then praying to the lord and hoping things go his way. People who meddle in backstage politics get treated accordingly though by the higher power.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
Did the crowd leave during Pakistan inning or stadium was not full? Towards the end it was almost empty stadium.
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There was a flood of people that left after Babar got out, a lot of them only come for him
Snowflake said:
Oh yaar even Harris was hitting sixes for fun. This isn’t playing well. You play well when you are in a competition.

NZ had won by then. When he plays like this when needed then lmk
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Well we will see if he can do this when the game is on, but for now at least appreciate
 
Asif321 said:
Rizwan atleast has won games. Babar is living off on his reputation. Totally match losing innings today no wonder Pakistan won nothing when he was captain . Saud should just be in tests he has no business in odis
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Babar has lost it. Probably Shaheen's bad-dua got to him.

Babar wasn't this bad of a player. Particularly in ODI format. He could bat at 80-90 or even a 100 SR when needed.
 
Major said:
How is it dumb? THere is a win possibility of 50%, so whenever the home team doesnt win that crowd is the dumbest?

These gems you post, are they part of the Indian Passport application process?
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You don’t know why he’s calling them dumb, do you?
 
Had Babar, Riz, Saud, Fakhar and Tayib scored a run a ball, we would have scored an extra 71 runs which was more than what was needed to win the match...only Fakhar can be excused cos he was injured....the rest need their heads in shame!
 
Major said:
Its funny how you wana nitpick and blame the non performance of others on Rizwan.

Rizwan sucekd aswell today, but than also accept Saud and Fakhar sucked instead of coming up with excuses.

The team isnt a world beater team, everyone knows it, they arnt even the favourites. But hey, we still are watching.
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why blame fakhar .. he wa sinjured..what was the ened to send him at no 4 and why rizwan could nt open considering he had done it so many times in t20..
 
mominsaigol said:
The problem with rizwan type players is that they require hand holding from someone else to succeed at the crease.

Last time it was agha, Before this it was Abdullah.

In both games vs sri lanka and sa he played a good innings but it was a support role.

Same with Babar, People don't remember that his 2019 innings vs NZ was equally slow and Haris sohail masked the innings and hard carried him, yet people used the whole difficult conditons excuse.

At their best these 2 are accumulators who require support at the other end. At their worst their tail enders.

Saud in odi is the exact same, infact he's worse lol.

Fakhar and saim make a huge difference and it's no wonder Pakistan in t20 collapsed as soon as these 2 were made openers.
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I don’t get the Saud shtick because he is a specialist middle order batter, what were people expecting, lets throw him to the wolves and let him face the new ball ? Saud was actually very much needed on this pitch or someone like Kamran Gulam, NZ choked Pakistan with their spinners and exploited Rizwan’s defensive captaincy, he was happy for these guys to rotate the strike so easily and they kept building, Saud is very good at picking the gaps and keeping the RR in sight. What we really needed was for Rizwan & Babar to stand up at the top and show some bollocks, they both have opened in T20’s so why not do it here since we are not allowed to load the line up with players much better suited to exploit the PP?

Pakistan is not a terrible side, Rizwan has bought the entire team down to his knees from getting rid off legendary coaches to bringing in his mates to promoting himself in soft situations and hindering the growth of much superior players who are suited for specific roles in the team, the mans a charlatan and the worst player to ever represent Pakistan when you look at the damage he has been doing for years, yet players still support such a cowardly player and person.
 
Pakistan's best player is injured and struggling, supposed best batsman plays slowest innings, death bowling has been consistently bad and here is a thread that the loss is good!
 
RidiculousMan said:
Management had no clue or plan what to do if Fakhar was not opening.

The fact is. This top order that they have chosen never had belief in themselves. They rely on Fakhar to give start and it is Fakhar that has carried Pakistan ODI batting since debut. Babar only scores soft runs vs B/C teams or Zimbabwe / Nepal teams.
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Babar has been exposed. Just keep fielders tight against his cover drive, don’t allow cut shot and give an inducker here and there. He’s not much threat against spin either . Babar has skills but lacks courage to do something different. New Zealand were bowling good tight lines but it was not as if the ball was swinging and seaming , in this situation as an opener you need to use the crease put the bowler off his length , play the lofted shots to clear the in ring. When the ball is not moving sideways and if your on a flat track it isn’t that hard to do this.
 
Babar should be number 10 or 11 in the batting line up. Sending him upfront massively hinders Pakistan's chances of having a positive start and play for the win. He's a liablity as an opener and number 3 position and most of the losses follow a similar pattern where Babar plays at a snail pace slowing down the run rate which puts massive pressure on the late order batsmen to score quickly which they fail to do 90% of the time. I don't think he can change his approach as he's a very limited batsmen.
By playing him at number 11, he can contribute a lot better than his opening positions by getting Pakistan across the line when the required rate isn't so high.
@Rana @mominsaigol @Major
 
Remember the Champions Cup? What came out of that spectacle? Recalling players from BPL?

This team is horrifically bad in every facet: batting, bowling, and fielding. I've said this a thousand times, but the PCT just needs to rid the limited overs side of Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, SSA, Haris Rauf, and Co. (we did well to get rid of Shadab and Hassan Ali). This core has proven time and time again in ICC events that it simply doesn't have it. For the love of God, can we just move on from this crew? Losing with a new plan is better than losing with the same TTFs.

Also, who is going to hold the Mafia Boss Aqib accountable? Fakhar got hurt in the first over of the match, and four hours later we still don't have a strategy on how to reshuffle the batting lineup? Is team management taking a nap in the newly refurbished, AC locker rooms?

I have no doubt we will one day look back on this team and simply LOL that our ODI 15 had the likes of Saud, Tayyab, Khushdil, Usman Khan in it.

One match in, we're out. Sound familiar?
 
Most shameful 1st PP in pakistans ODI history, that was beyond pathetic. No urgency, no strike rotation. Just clueless.

This is what happens when you pick a one paced batting line up outside of fakhar.

The fact we let mediocre player in latham regain form in tri series final. Then let him score 100 today was shameful aswell

Pathetic performance all round
 
psyoptica said:
Babar should be number 10 or 11 in the batting line up. Sending him upfront massively hinders Pakistan's chances of having a positive start and play for the win. He's a liablity as an opener and number 3 position and most of the losses follow a similar pattern where Babar plays at a snail pace slowing down the run rate which puts massive pressure on the late order batsmen to score quickly which they fail to do 90% of the time. I don't think he can change his approach as he's a very limited batsmen.
By playing him at number 11, he can contribute a lot better than his opening positions by getting Pakistan across the line when the required rate isn't so high.
@Rana @mominsaigol @Major
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Here's a better solution, drop him and move on.
 
15 captains and this performance?
 

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psyoptica said:
Let's be real, he's never getting dropped. I proposed a solution that would reduce the risk of loss due to Babar actively trying to sink the ship batting at the top
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Your solution to play him at 10 is 100x more unrealistic to have him dropped when aqib dropped Bobby for tests.

My outcome is still more likely then your outcome lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
Your solution to play him at 10 is 100x more unrealistic to have him dropped when aqib dropped Bobby for tests.

My outcome is still more likely then your outcome lol.
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Babar will make an excuse that he was not given his regular spot to bat and he will continue to play. we know the story of PCB day in out. Naqvi cried surgery of team after last icc t20 debacle. so what exactly was surgery? bringing back Khushdil and Rana 😂
 
Tom Latham and Will Young powered New Zealand to a commanding 60-run victory over hosts Pakistan in the opening match of the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 at the National Stadium, Karachi, on Wednesday night.

After being put in to bat, New Zealand posted a formidable 320/5 in their 50 overs before restricting Pakistan to 260 all out in 47.2 overs. Will O’Rourke (3/47), Mitchell Santner (3/66), and Matt Henry (2/25) shared eight wickets between them to seal the win.

Opening batter Will Young played a brilliant knock, scoring 107 off 113 balls with 12 fours and a six. He formed a crucial 118-run partnership for the fourth wicket with fellow centurion Tom Latham after New Zealand had slipped to 73/3 in 16.2 overs.

Player of the Match Latham remained unbeaten with 118 runs off 104 balls, smashing 10 fours and three sixes to register his eighth ODI century. Young, who brought up his fourth ODI ton, fell in the 38th over, but Glenn Phillips (61 off 39 balls, 3x4s, 4x6s) joined forces with Latham to add 125 runs for the fifth wicket. Phillips' explosive innings ended in the final over as New Zealand amassed 113 runs in the last 10 overs while losing just one wicket. Naseem Shah and Haris Rauf picked up two wickets each for Pakistan.

In reply, Pakistan suffered early setbacks, losing Saud Shakeel and Mohammad Rizwan cheaply, finishing the first powerplay at 22/2. Fakhar Zaman, who dropped to No.4 due to a muscular strain sustained while fielding, was bowled by Michael Bracewell in the 21st over with the score at 69/3.

Babar Azam (64 off 90 balls, 6x4s, 1x6) and Salman Ali Agha stitched together a 58-run partnership off 59 balls, but Pakistan’s innings unraveled as they lost three wickets in four overs, leaving them struggling at 153/6 in 34 overs.

Khushdil Shah, batting at No.7, fought back with a quickfire 69 off 49 balls, striking 10 fours and a six, but his dismissal in the 44th over at the hands of O’Rourke sealed Pakistan’s fate. Late cameos from Haris Rauf (19 off 11 balls, 3x6s), Shaheen Shah Afridi (14 off 13 balls, 1x6), and Naseem Shah (13 off 15 balls, 1x6) were not enough as the hosts fell short by 60 runs.

Pakistan will play their next Group A match against India at the Dubai International Cricket Stadium on Sunday, February 23, with the first ball scheduled for 2:00 PM PKT.
 
Pakistan could have chased it but Babar played a good test innings in ODI to spoil the plans.
 
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